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new reporting as we come on the air. bipartisan frustrations with the white house. a key meeting and a one-on-one with a top administration official. right now, nbc news, the first to confirm another letter from the head of senate intel to the white house with lawmakers growing more and more irritated
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at the way the administration has handled the investigation into classified documents, with the "wall street journal" now reporting the fbi is set to search mike pence's home in indiana. the reporter behind that scoop and our hill team standing by live. also happening, we're watching the white house where president biden is about to host a group of congressional lawmakers trying to get some momentum behind police reform. plus, one of the president's top economic advisers stepping away from that role. an exclusive live interview this hour with brian deese and our own steph ruhle, why he's leaving as tensions growing over the recession. i'm hallie jackson, i want to bring in ali vitali, and vaughn hillyard. ali, let me start with you, senator mark warner, and senator marco rubio sending a letter to the biden administration today with frustration about the way these investigation into classified documents have
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unfolded. talk us through it. >> reporter: frustration has been the word of the week for all members o. senate intelligence committee, republicans and democrats alike. they want more information about what are in each of these sets of documents found at each of these former president and vice president's homes. it goes for trump and mar-a-lago, and the documents for former vice president biden, current president biden and former vice president mike pence. in the new letter that our colleague was able to obtain first, it says that without access to the relevant classified documents, the committee cannot effectively oversee the efforts of the intention committee to address risks to national security, arising from the mishandling of this classified information and our request is not unprecedented. here's senator mark warner with a little more. >> i think it will be viewed as an increasing, exing our deep
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frustration and increasing pressure on the administration. and i'm hoping for a breakthrough soon. >> reporter: and look, in a pretty acrimonious congress right now, a state of divided government, the way that the senate intel community has been handling these documents and trying to push for more information has been notable just for the fact that it has been completely bipartisan in nature. that's not unprecedented. it's not unusual for the way that warner and rubio, the top two members of that committee have worked together over the last few months and years together trying to take the politics out of the intelligence community. but yet another overture from them, trying to get a damage assessment of what was in these documents and is the threat of that information leaking out neutralized? >> ali, thank you. let me go to you and the new scoop in the "wall street journal" that the fbi as you're reporting is expected to search the home of the former vp, mike pence, for classified material, according to people familiar
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with the matter. nbc news has reached out to the parties involved, the fbi, we haven't heard back yet. walk us through your reporting and what it signifies? >> what it really signifies is that the justice department under attorney general merrick garland has taken pains to try treat cases alike. we have three situations in which former senior executives and, current senior executives have these revelations of classified documents in their homes. the fbi is in discussions with mike pence's legal team about possibly searching his home as well. this would be in keeping with that track record, even though the pence team has said that they don't believe any additional documents will turn up in that search, the documents he did, he uncovered last week or a couple of weeks ago at this point, those were taken inadvertently by mistake. the search is just sort of another cautionary involvement
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of the justice department in order to see if there's anything else there that needs to be taken. >> thanks, this is all happening, right, the backdrop of politics in 2024 with the former vp back in d.c. today, kind of hinting at or teasing what we have heard about speculation for a 2024 run for the white house. listen. >> we've got a lot of encouragement. i'm very humbled by that. a small town guy from southern indiana, grew up with a corn field in his backyard. it's a humbling thing even to be mentioned for the highest office in the land, and we are giving it prayerful consideration. >> i get that at the moment there's only one, you know, republican candidate in the presidential race, and that is donald trump, but in about five minutes, he might have a lot of company. >> and nikki haley is just about two weeks away, and when you're talking about the last couple of months, the initial jog for
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donald trump, before he went on the campaign trail, nikki haley's indication has turned this into a sprint. the last eight years is a carousel that led to this moment. what you saw this morning was donald trump on a radio program taking direct shots at who, nikki haley, who intends to be the first other emergent individual in this race. i want you to hear what donald trump said about nikki haley. quote, she's a very ambitious person, she just couldn't stay in her seat. she suffers from something, she's overly ambitious. this has the echoes of 2015 all over it. calling out glenn youngkin and ron desantis, suggesting they would not have won their bids for governor in virginia and florida respectively, if he had not helped their candidacies here. when you look at these numbers, this is the challenge is that donald trump, anywhere from
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one-third to half of the republican electorate continues to say that they will intend to vote for him in next year's primaries, and so the question is just how fractured of a field does this become? who else were to jump on board, alongside nikki haley, do you have a mike pence, ron desantis, a glenn youngkin here because, again, when we're talking about the carousel, the criticism among some in the republican party is enough did not jump out of the race to make it a mono race, are republicans going to take themselves out of the bidding by never jumping in or looking at a competitive debate stage trying to take on donald trump? >> the question that comes up for me is when did it become a -- when did ambitious become a slur to describe women. it's a rhetorical question, i don't expect you to answer that, but worth noting. more to come on that front. let's talk about what's going on at the white house with president biden and vice president harris holding an
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event on family medical leave after which they're going to head into a meeting with members of the congressional black caucus in hopes of finding a path forward on police reform. calls to action are getting louder and louder and louder, after the violent death of tyre nichols. the george floyd justice in policing act, it stalled in the senate. we have heard, 24 hours ago, live on the network, when tyre nichols was laid to rest, his family and others demanding some kind of action on that bill and more. i want to bring in nbc news chief white house correspondent, peter alexander. both sides are going to agree that something has to get done. is this about charting what that path forward looks like in both chambers of commerce? >> the question is what can they get done. there's a lot of frustration about what happened in 2021 when the senate did not allow the george floyd justice in policing
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act to go forward. and so they're going to give it another go in some form this way. the question is what exactly that looks like. the cbs, the congressional black caucus calling for the meeting to meet with president biden today, following the death of tyre nichols, the nevada democrat who was the chair of the cbc saying that he's bringing with him the message from the nichols family after his conversation with tyre nichols mom and stepfather saying they want to see action take place now. it does feel in a lot of ways like a deja vu moment here, and here's what we heard from karine jean-pierre about what exactly the president's view is on this issue, he clearly supports action happening. take a listen. >> the president supported the george floyd justice in policing act last session. he supports it now again, right. sometimes, and this is a reality, we know how congress works, right, sometimes it's going to look different and so that is okay, right, if it's
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going to look different. >> so the question is what exactly this would look like if there was to be another round going back to these talks. is there anything else they can do incrementally in terms of executive actions. we did hear from kamala harris, who was at the memorial service, the funeral for tyre nichols, saying a vote on the justice in policing act was nonnegotiable but we're hearing from some republicans that they're not going to budge on this. >> we know, peter that the president signed this executive order on policing last year after congress did nothing. what is the appetite for more unilateral action? how effective could it be. we have seen in the past some o. executive orders get tied up in court. has that been part of the conversation from the folks you're talking to? >> reporter: we know the cbs chair had a conversation with the domestic policy head, susan
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rice, rice saying that she was open to hearing whatever recommendations they have for unilateral actions. the white house may be able to take. remember, the president did this once before where he banned, among other things, choke holds from federal law enforcement agencies. set up a national police data base so bad officers as it were can't go from one state to another without being tracked in some ways so you know what they have done in the past. here's what we heard from tim scott, one of the republicans really involved in the first go around on this. he said about the current justice in policing act, the george floyd proposal as it exists, the a nonstarter, i have been working toward common ground solutions that have a shot at passing, solutioning to increase funding and training to make sure only the best wear the badge. the bottom line being it doesn't look based on that conversation like anything is going to happen via legislation, so for anything to happen here, it may need to
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come in the form of any type of executive action. hallie. >> peter alexander holding it down on the north lawn of the white house. appreciate it. we'll take you live to ukraine as kyiv warns of a new russian attack imminently. plus. president biden's top economic adviser stepping down with the future of our economy looking more stable but still some question marks, stephanie ruhle is going to put some of those question marks to him live later in the show. house republicans just voting to remove congresswoman ilhan omar from the foreign affairs committee. we're live on capitol hill with that fallout in just 60 seconds. stay with us. fallout in just 6. stay with us just without the lactose. tastes great in our iced coffees too. which makes waking up at 5 a.m. to milk the cows a little easier. (moo) mabel says for you, it's more like 5:15. man: mom, really?
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anti-semitic tropes, with omar speaking before the vote when her removal was already certain. >> so i will continue to speak up because representation matters. i will continue to speak up for little kids who wonder who's speaking up for them. i will continue to speak up for families around the world who are seeking justice. so take your vote or not, i am here to stay, and i am here to be a voice against harms around the world and advocate for a better world. >> i'm joined by nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake, and punch bowl news founder and msnbc political contributor, jake sherman, thank you both. garrett, let me start with you, there are some interesting dynamics at play here. let's start with the way republicans viewed this, and the way democrats viewed this. democrats saw this in some ways as revenge.
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republicans said they saw this as kind of accountability in their view. >> yeah, that's been the republican line on this. this is something mccarthy ran on in the 2022 midterms. he made a point of saying that if republicans took back the majority he would remove these three members now, omar, schiff and swalwell from the committees. he has delivered on that. these comments from ilhan omar go back to 2019, and democrats have argued she's been held accountable, she's apologized, called out by democratic party leadership, and rank and file democrats and what we saw today is nothing but petty political revenge. mccarthy on the other hand argues that he's sort of trying to protect the integrity of the foreign affairs committee and how it might be seen around the world. here's a little bit of the posing viewpoints we saw on display today. >> we just do not believe when it comes to foreign affairs, especially the responsibility of that position around the world
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with the comments you make, she shouldn't serve there. >> it's not a public policy debate. it's not about accountability, it's about political revenge. >> if you have issue with something someone says on a committee or not, is that a reason to remove them? what we have seen is republican leadership slowly picking off republican members who were concerned about the idea of the precedent this action would set, trying to set up future due process for members to defend themselves more effectively for charges that might get them removed from their committees. that appears to be the promise. details are thin. we'll see what the follow through is. >> jake, let me go to you here. what are you hearing on the sources on the way speaker mccarthy made in move and wrangled some of these people to be yes votes on this. >> garrett is right on all of
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those accounts. what mccarthy said in trying to whip these republicans and there were a significant number, four, five, six, who were skeptical about the continued precedent it sets. mccarthy said he will set up another process whereby the house ethics committee would be the entity that would remove people from committees. it's kind of bunk to be honest with you. even if the house ethics committee does have that power, the house can do anything with a majority vote. so, you know, he's trying to decentralize this and take it off his plate. it will never truly be off his plate, he controls the ethics committee. matt gaetz essentially said the other night on i believe it was newsmax, i'm not entirely sure but said, just because we disagree with her and she said some things we consider to be vile, doesn't mean that she shouldn't be allowed to say
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those things, and that's kind of the freedom of speech argument. this is no surprise, mccarthy has been saying this for two years, and he this no choice but to follow up on this, and had the support of every republican that lined up behind him. >> does this make it harder or easier to do the same thing for people on other committees down the road. >> easier. the house is a war zone. garrett and i and everybody else experience it every day. it's not getting better. it's gotten worse over the years. this kind of thing would have never been in the mix ten, fifteen years ago. it just wouldn't have been. john boehner started it in the early years of his speakership, 2012, and it's gotten bad, and i hate to say that, but mccarthy and hakeem jeffries seem to signal after they removed omar, they want to ratchet this down
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down south, you've got more than half a million people who still do not have power right now. most of those folks in texas, who say it's not safe on the road, even now, with the deadly relentless ice storm finally starting to ease up, at least eight people have died in weather-related car crashes. nbc's guad venegas is in west memphis, arkansas, give us a sense of what it's like o on the ground, what people are expecting as the storm system finally starts to move through. >> reporter: the good news is that we're no longer under that ice storm warning that you mentioned. we still have a lot of ice. crews will probably be able to get into these areas where some of these trees, as they mentioned, damaged the power lines, and they're going to be doing the work they need to, but all the ice that we had accumulated, sleet, that is, and rain, over the last few days have brought in ice that we see around me, in fact, i'm at a park where the ice has been
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melting for hours now. but we still have a lot of ice. you can walk on the surface that you think is clear of it, and run into one spot, and that's where the accidents happen. that's why it's so dangerous. that's the same situation on the roads, pieces of ice throughout the highways or the streets, and if a car goes over one of those patches, that can be enough for an accident. there's other situations like a lot of trucks that are going down the highway. they'll have sheets of ice on top of the trucks. and these can slide, they can land on vehicles, they can land on the highways. so there's ice melting all over the place. it's going to take some time. people have to keep that in mind. as the temperature does warm up and things improve here and the power company will have to do the work necessary to restore power to people in texas, and of course there's more in arkansas, and then of course there's all the people that got trapped, especially in the dallas area where all the flights were cancelled. a lot of people couldn't get out
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and others waiing to make their way into the region as the weather appears to have gone to the midwest area. to ukraine, we're learning about russian strikes in a key city in the east. i want to show you images of damage coming in. ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy said the only way to stop russian terrorism is with tanks, and fighter jets, and long range missiles. they say russia's military is regrouping and getting a new offensive ready imminently with troops lining up basically along the border. i want to bring in live in kyiv, nbc's raf sanchez. there are other warning signs that the ukrainians are pointing to. the russians are getting ready for another renewed attack. >> the ukrainians say they are seeing the russians prepare everything they need for a new offensive. that is ammunition, it is good,
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it is gasoline. it is medical supplies, everything that vladimir putin's forces need to regroup and once again strike inside ukraine. we are hearing from ukraine's defense minister. they believe that offensive will either come from the east where we have been seeing that very intense fighting near bakhmut or the south in kherson. the run up to the initial invasion back in february of last years ago the u.s. actually declassified and made public a lot of the intelligence, the satellite imagery, we are not seeing that this time around. not clear if those images aren't as clear, if the picture isn't as clear as it was back in february or perhaps the u.s. does not want the russians to know what they know. now, the ukrainian defense minister says russia said publicly that last fall they partially mobilized. they effectively conscripted
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some 300,000 military age men who they pressed to have them ready for the new offensive. the actual figure based on ukrainian intelligence is closer to half a million. these conscripts not super well trained, not super well equipped but they have the numbers to throw wave after wave of ukrainian defenders. that's why they so desperately need the advanced weapons, they need them now. the oechz could begin a party of weeks. i don't think there's a real possibility they're going to have f 16 fighter jets. they are hoping to potentially get german made leopard tanks we have been talking about so much the last couple of weeks, in place, in time to head off the russian troops. there has been a very large gathering of eu, european union officials here in kyiv today.
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they're here to talk with president zelenskyy about the possibility of ukraine one day joining the european union which would be absolutely huge for this country. it would be huge for this country's economy, but that is years off, if it's going to happen at all, and the real focus right now for president zelenskyy, the alarm they are trying to sound is that this russian offensive could begin any day. >> raf sanchez, live in kyiv. thank you for that. appreciate it. next up, president biden's top economic adviser will step down and our own stephanie ruhle will talk exclusively with him about why and what's next for brian deese. that's right after the break. n iabrn deese. that's right after the break
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some big changes are coming to president biden's economic team at a pretty big moment for the economy, too, with the white house announcing today that his top economic adviser, brian deese will step down as director of the national economic council. nbc news senior business analyst and host of the 11th hour
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stephanie ruhle is here to talk live and exclusively with deese himself who is also standing by. >> thank you so much. brian, thank you for joining us. this has been an extraordinary last two years for you, for the skmi, for this white house. we have gone through a tremendous economic recovery, and the economy is only getting stronger right now. it's a complicated picture. as you leave this white house, what are you most nervous about? >> thanks for having me on, and you're right, it's been an unprecedented period in almost every way, dealing with a pandemic, economic crisis, and all american of events like russia's invasion of ukraine. as i look back and look forward, the thing that i feel the most comforted by is the strength and the equitable nature of this economic recovery in ways that have defied lots of projections and lots of odds. we have a stronger and more
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resilient labor market, and we find ourselves in the position that we are better positioned than any major global economy going forward. as we look forward, there are risks. one of them is to make sure we don't violate hippocratic oath in terms of policy. there are a lot of businesses, investing in the united states. looking to expand over a medium term time horizon. crow look at policy, there are a lot of things to get that forward. quality affordable child care, but we could also set ourselves back if we inject a lot of uncertainty into the economy, and certainly that's one of the reasons why you've heard the president be clear about the need for congress to avoid defaulting on the debt. as we sit here today, given the negative things we are facing, we are better positioned than a
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lot of people thought possible. >> we are, but in debt ceiling issue could be catastrophic. we keep warning people, come june, if we end up defaulting, this will be economically disastrous. but what does that mean? folks at home, making dinner. >> the debt limit first for starters is not about any forward looking commitments or spend. >> it's about paying bills. >> paying bills that the united states government has committed to, and for more than 200 years, one of the bedrocks of the united states and the global financial system has been that the united states honors those obligations. even putting that in question creates real financial turmoil. what does that mean? the united states debt to be downgraded. that means it costs more for the u.s. to borrow.
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that has wide ranging implications for what the government can invest in and how much it's going to cost the taxpayer. actually seeing a default could cause widespread financial panic, crashing of the stock market, economic calamity that would out to typical communities and parts of the economy where people can't get goods where they can get them. people can't access basic services they need. it's a bleak picture, and one we don't need to get close to. every congress in history has done their duty, and obligation to do this. we could take this off that kind of uncertainty off the table, in the context of what is a lot of positive signals about the underlying strength of this economy. >> you won't get an argument from me. we've got to raise the debt ceiling, we owe the money, we need to spend a lot of money. we certainly needed to to get us out of covid. the fact remains this government spends a lot. we spend more than we have. going forward, what do you think
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we could do to get more financially healthy as a government? >> well, first i would say we have made a lot of progress on exactly that front while also investing in america over the last two years. there's a model here. the deficits come down the last two years by $1.7 trillion. part of that was because revenue has been higher than expected because growth has been stronger than expected. that's a function of policies that have driven a stronger economic recovery. the other part is spending coming down. we were able to wind down the emergency covid measures and others as anticipated. that's progress. now we can invest and grow. what the president is going to lay out in his budget is a strategy to do that. keep investing in america. to keep lowering costs for families in areas like child care while reducing the deficit. we can do that while also focusing on tax reform. the deficit is a function of how much we spend, and how much revenue we bring in.
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we have ample opportunity to reform the tax code. make sure we are not eroding our tax space internationally, and do that in a way that reduces deficit. the president is going to lay that out in his budget. we'll have a debate about different budget visions is a normal thing in the political process. we need to do that without anybody holding hostage the economy around the debt limit. no matter what your policy priority, nobody should say unless you do my policy priority i'm going to blow up the economy. >> we are out of time. i must ask, lail brainard, will she be replacing you? >> i'll leave that to him to speak to when he's ready to do so. >> thank you for joining us, congratulations and good luck on your next move. >> thank you very much. >> brian deese, thank you so
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much. we'll see more of that interview tonight on the 11th hour, what's the take away, we have to raise the debt ceiling. we owe this none. >> i'm sad you didn't ask brian about what the white house will do to lower the cost of beyonce tickets and make them more accessible. >> the only thing on your mind were the eagles right now. i can't believe you have the capacity to think about beyonce. >> we contain multitudes my sweet friend. that was a great interview with brian deese. >> and we are going to talk about beyonce. we are going to do it, because you know what, why not? she's got a first world tour in something like seven years. the big question is it ticket master going to be ready for it? not long after you saw the high profile ticket master hearing on the hill. we'll talk about it. but first, the college board taking some key components out of its ap african-american studies course, the rationale for in some ways doing what ron
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to their right of an inclusive education. we deserve to learn free from political censorship. joining me now, some of the changes the college board did. for example, adding a piece on, for example, black conservatism, taking out certain black authors as part of the curriculum, taking out references to movements like the black lives matter movement. help us understand these changes. help us understand the rationale that the college board is giving here. >> the college board stands by their statement that this is not watered down. they did not give into pressure. there are many who disagree. >> reporter: the college board unveil ago new framework for advanced placement after can americans studies after pressure from critics to not include topics like black lives matter, and sexual orientation, a critique many students in the pilot course resist. >> it really hurt. i thought we were moving forward in life. >> reporter: the college board
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saying the syllabus includes the study of black artists, inventors, and gay americans, pivotal in the civil rights movement. >> this will democratize american education and put forward where it is that black studies should be in the curriculum across the board. >> reporter: the latest chapter of u.s. education debate sparking protests and legal pushback in florida last week. >> black history is american history. >> reporter: republican governor ron desantis banning the pilot ap course in florida. his latest move restricting the teaching of race and sexuality in public schools. >> when you try to use black history to shoe horn in queer theory, you are clearly trying to use that for political purposes. >> reporter: the college board's new curriculum will no longer include authors flagged by officials as scholars of concern, but the revisions were
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made independent. and piloted the course in 60 schools across the country. >> do you believe this updated course framework will be enough for florida to lift their current ban? >> i do not believe that florida is going to lift the ban because it's never been about this course. the governor was very clear. african-american studies doesn't have educational value, and i think that the governor has led with that, the governor has demonstrated that through policy, comments and so forth. >> reporter: the course is set to launch nationwide in the upcoming school year. >> and hallie, it's important to add that the college board does say that this frame was finalized in edition. for critics, it's tough to believe. >> the key point here, though, is that florida could still decide not to allow this curriculum, right? i mean, that's still a possibility on the table as we're looking at in. >> we have reached out to governor desantis, and have not herd back on that. it's important to remember that prominent civil rights attorney,
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ben crump, says if this does not happen, he plans to sue. >> what would that look like? what is the time line. >> attorney general crump would be suing alongside three other ap students. he says he worries this band could set a precedent across the south. this is something he's watching just not in florida but around the country, where we have seen policies like this targeting race, and sexuality. the intersection of capitol hill, that high-profile ticketmaster hearing on the hill after the taylor swift ticketing debacle and now there's question whether the new beyonce tour, as she's announcing the world tour, the first one in seven years, could be a similar frankly mess when it comes to getting tickets and being able to access them, what happens with the pre-sale, et cetera. lots more to come on that with lots of questions.
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♪♪ >> our thanks to emily for that report. we're learning a guantanamo bay detainee has been transferred out of the detention camp in cuba. a 42-year-old has now arrived in belize, the first detainee to be resettled by the biden administration. let's bring back in our nbc chief white house correspondent peter alexander all over this story. talk us through it. >> reporter: we spoke to our sources and we know that this man left guantanamo early today, and he arrived in belize several hours later. we also understand that the u.s. is preparing to transfer at least two more detainees in the coming weeks, as for kahn he released a statement saying i intend to make the most of the second chance at life. i deeply regret the things i have done many years ago and i have taken responsibility and tried to make up for them. he notably was guantanamo's only known legal u.s. resident. he was granted asylum while he
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attended high school here in the u.s. specifically in baltimore back in 1998, and according to a defense department detainee assessment, he joined al qaeda and became a direct subordinate to ksm, khalid sheikh mohammed. khan was arrested in pakistan in 2012 and pled guilty to terrorism charges and pled guilty to terrorism charges. the sentence ended about a year ago on march 1st of 2022. a senior state department official tells nbc news that the u.s. looked at a lot of countries where khan might be transferred. they factored in locations that have a good relationship with the u.s. and have the ability to support someone like this, including any medical or security requirements, but ultimately according to this official, hallie, it was a political ask. belize was a great choice
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because we have a lot of things to do with them and they were willing to take khan as part of a humanitarian gesture. hallie. >> peter alexander live for us again on north lawn. thanks for coming back to the camera. we greatly appreciate you and your reporting and your service to the network. thanks for watching this hour of msnbc. find us on twitter @hallie on nbc and over on our streaming channel called nbc "news now" and i'll see you for show number 2:00 in sufficient about an hour. meantime, nicole picks it up with "deadline" right after the break. t up with "deadline" right after the break. at keep things moving. today, we're producing renewable diesel that can be used in existing diesel tanks. and we're committed to increasing our renewable fuels production. because as we work toward a lower carbon future, it's only human to keep moving forward.
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