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good to be with you, i'm katy tur. first it was the leaked memo from an air force general, warning his officers to prepare for a hot war with china in 2025. then it was news the u.s. is expanding its military presence in southeast asia, adding four more bases in the philippines on the doorstep of china. and now, the pentagon is faced with a chinese spy balloon first spotted over montana, which, by the way is home to one of the united states' three nuclear silo fields. just a moment ago in a series of questions from reporters, brigadier general patrick ryder confirmed the balloon is not just drifting, that china is in control of it. >> the balloon is maneuverable.
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clearly it's violated u.s. airspace, and again, we've communicated that fact to the prc. the fact is we know that it's a surveillance balloon. and i'm not going to be able to be more specific than that. and we do know that the balloon has violated international airspace and international law which is unacceptable. we have conveyed this directly to the prc at multiple levels. >> violated u.s. airspace and international law. the u.s. see. flies in the face of what china is claiming that it's a weather balloon blown astray. in fact, the pentagon says it's currently headed east across the continental united states, and just a moment ago, white house officials told nbc news the u.s. acted to make it very difficult for china to learn anything specific, so what exactly does that mean? and why hasn't it been shot down or even forced down? do we have the capability to even do that? we have reporters at the
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pentagon pressing officials at the capitol hearing from outraged lawmakers and in beijing, getting the reaction from the chinese. we also have an expert, a former naval aviator and analyst of think tanks to read between the lines and help us understand how much of a threat this really is or at the very least, what message china is trying to send. she's going to explain the technology because what in the world is this thing that's said to be as large as three city buses. joining me now first is nbc news pentagon correspondent courtney kube. nbc news capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles, from beijing is nbc news correspondent janis mackey frayer, and "new york times" chief white house correspondent and msnbc political analyst, peter baker. so you heard it right, the brigadier general saying this violated u.s. airspace and violated international law. what's china saying in reaction
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to that? >> well, china has admitted that this is a chinese airship, though they did spend most of the day trying to diffuse tension with washington earlier, and foreign ministry spokesperson said that they were still gathering information and that china had no intention of violating any country's sovereignty or airspace, and the statement appeared on the ministry's web site, attributing to nobody, confirming that it was a scientific balloon. that it was used mainly for weather research and that it had strayed inadvertently into u.s. airspace because they claim that it isn't easily controlled and that it got caught up in the westerlies, and they blame forest majure. the pentagon doesn't believe this, nor does the white house. the postponement of the visit here is a major setback
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considering the visit was supposed to help reset ties between the u.s. and china which was strained at best over virtually everything. trade, semiconductors, taiwan, human rights, russia, the list goes on. so this does pose an embarrassment for the chinese side considering this visit, which was the first by a secretary of state in nearly six years, came out of that summit between president biden and chinese president shee xi jinping, having the secretary of state talking with chinese officials as a chinese spy balloon is drifting across the united states, the optics were simply unacceptable, and it appears that the chinese side cannot dispute that. this was a violation of u.s. airspace in the eyes of u.s. officials. defense officials here, it should be noted, have so far said nothing. >> the u.s. air bases, the
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expanded military bases in the philippines, any reason to believe that this is a reaction to that, janis? >> reporter: there doesn't appear to be a direct link. what this does is it adds to what is already a crisis for the u.s. and china in terms of its relations. there is common ground on nothing here, and there is certainly increasing tension with the u.s. general suggesting there is the potential for war by 2025 with the expansion of influence in the pacific. so this visit was important to try and put some -- to give you as china relations, some sort of footing, and it seems it's not going to have that opportunity. >> thank you so much for coming up with us. this is the first time we've heard directly from beijing, anybody in beijing so far this day part, i should say. all right. courtney, let's talk about the pentagon, and i've got a couple of questions for you, the white
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house a moment ago came out and said the president was briefed and asked his military to present options or the military, not his military, and according to an nbc news or a white house official speaking to nbc news, it was the strong recommendation of the secretary of defense and a few others, not to take what they're calling kinetic action. can you explain that? >> this all started on wednesday, when secretary of defense lloyd austin was in manila, also until the middle of the night, like we have janice at 3:00 in the morning for beijing. he called back here to d.c. and pulled together senior military leaders, including chairman of the joint chiefs, and general glenn van hirk, and other dod leaders, they talked about the balloon, where they think it might be going, surveillance capables, potential threat to the public and options how to deal with it. this was on wednesday. they came out of the meeting, according to a number of senior
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defense officials, with the recommendation not to shoot it down. it's a combination of reasons. the biggest one is they were worried about debris that would fall from this enormous balloon down below could injure or kill civilians and hurt infrastructure, so ultimately, the recommendation on wednesday that went to the white house was not to take action but to continue to monitor it. that's what president biden, he had requested options according to the defense official and he agreed, he concurred with that recommendation that came ouch out of his leaders on wednesday. we should say, they're still watching it here, minute by minute, and the president is continuing to be updated on its location and any changes, so this is not a static situation. i think this is something that will continue to evolve. we know from general pat ryder who we played a little bit of his sound earlier, we know from him that it's moving eastward across the continental u.s. as we saw on one of those maps, just about every state as you move across the u.s. is going to have some location that would be concerning to have a chinese
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surveillance balloon over it, whether it's a u.s. military installation or some other government facility, so as it continues to move, the u.s. will continue to assess whether it presents any kind of new or different threat. at this point, the collection capabilities of this balloon, according to defense officials are not that more significant than a basic satellite. so as long as the calculus may change as it gets over specific strategic locations, but as of now, that's still the recommendation out of here not to take action. >> what does it mean when they say, white house officials say we acted to make it very difficult for them to learn anything significant. what did they do? >> the u.s. has ways to obscure some of the surveillance. one of those is very simple. let's say they see that it's heading toward something that they just don't want the chinese to get a picture overhead. if there's something they don't want to get pictures of or see overhead, they can move things
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around. that's a simple way. there are more complicated ways that the pentagon doesn't like to talk about, but they do have ways that they can obscure some things from a spy balloon or weather balloon. >> there are a lot of lawmakers reacting to this. republicans are angry that it wasn't just shot down, taken down, especially when it was over a less populated area. what else are you hearing about the coordination between the white house and congress, specifically in terms of this trip for secretary blinken, that he was supposed to start embark on tomorrow being cancelled, the white house or blinken, i believe, said that there was a meeting and it was decided that it just wasn't a good time. >> yeah, i think it's fair to say there's a range of emotions on capitol hill, and they start at angst and get progressively more concerned as you go along the way. republicans and democrats seem to be very concerned about this. they seem concerned that they aren't getting enough information as to what exactly the executive branch and pentagon know about this, and
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they feel like they need to be more looped in. the house majority leader, i should say the speaker of the house, kevin mccarthy has asked for a full briefing of the gang of eight. we know that at least staff of the gang of eight has been given at least somewhat of an initial briefing as to what the pentagon knows about this particular situation. to your question about blinken and his decision not to go, there are senators, members of congress who have already agreed that that was the right decision. among them, senator bill hagerty who put out a statement, and he is someone as former ambassador to the region understands the geopolitics of the situation. there are already some republicans that seem to be using this as a political weapon against president biden, climbing that he's not tough enough on china. you know, emphatically saying their belief, the balloon should have been shot out of the air, but there's others that have been more reserved, just asking for more information right now. i think if you had to point to one thing that there's a consensus on here on capitol
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hill is that they need to know more, and they want to know more as soon as possible. >> so the national weather service in kansas city has just sent out this tweet. we've had several reports across northwest missouri of a large balloon visible on the horizon. it is now visible from our office in pleasant hill. and the kc metro area. we have confirmed that it is not a national weather service weather balloon. that's interesting. could potentially be over kansas city right now, moving east and southward from montana. it would appear, if that is in fact the spy balloon. peter, give us the largest picture here, and the moment we are in with china. janis laid out the tensions, talking from beijing. are we on a marching path toward a more serious, potentially violent conflict? armed conflict with china? >> that's certainly the fear.
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we spy on them. they spy on us. that's not a surprise. you're not supposed to get caught, and you're not supposed to get caught on the eve of the trip by the secretary of state, meant to address and perhaps even ease some of the tensions that have been developing in the relationship, right? this is a relationship that has been on the edge now for several years going back, of course, to president trump's time and the sanctions, the tariffs are that he imposed then. those have been kept on by president biden. he has several times talked about he would be able to use the military to come to taiwan's defense. the white house had to walk the statements back. they had speaker pelosi last year. an anticipated trip by speaker mccarthy this year to taiwan, and those are seen as provocative by beijing. to have this happen now is obviously bad timing to say the least. it reminds you that the u2 incident back in the eisenhower era, prior to a summit meeting, eisenhower is meeting with khrushchev, the russians
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disrupted the relationship for many months to come. this is what you can possibly expect here. it's going to be hard to have a sit down, any kind of constructive negotiations at this point. politically at home at the very least in the united states, while this balloon incident is obviously still on everybody's mind. >> peter and ryan, thank you very much. and joining me now is senior technical analyst, and former aviator, brynn tannehill. can you explain what the technology is? >> it's a balloon that has solar power that takes advantage of wind velocities at different altitudes to steer itself where it needs to go and use whatever sensors are on board, whether they're optical or signal intelligence for electronic and radio frequency, and potentially report them back, if this is, indeed, a surveillance balloon as the department of defense has asserted?
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>> republicans as you heard think we should have shot this down when we first saw it over montana when it was over a less populated area. what's your take on that? >> sitting down the balloon is difficult, but possible. the altitude that it flies at are above what would normally be available to u.s. jet fighters. the altitudes also make it difficult for the missiles we used, their control surfaces struggle at these sorts of altitudes. the other issue is that u.s. missile technology was developed to fight existing threats. people have not used balloons in decades for this sort of spy work. are things like patriot, and am ram are designed to shoot down other jets, cruise missiles, patriot can take down ballistic missiles, as we used them in the first gulf war. the problem is the balloon does not behave or look like any of these things. in fact, it looks like some of
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the decoys that the missiles are designed to ignore so trying to shoot at the balloon, there's no guarantee that we would hit it. however, the risk that we would miss or that we would -- if we missed it, that the munitions would carry on down range and be a threat to people on the ground or to buildings or infrastructure on the ground. even if we did hit it and bring it down, where that debris lands can be cannot unpredictable, so there is significant risk in trying to shoot at it with existing weapons systems. >> is there a way to force it down or to capture it without actually shooting it down and posing a big risk, is there a way for us to get this balloon while it is still over our airspace. >> so i can't comment on things that might be classified. however, there are, given that it can control its altitude, there may be a way to bring it
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down the same way you might bring down drones that you take control of. however, i don't know if it's possible for this one or possible to figure out in the time frame available. >> all right. the pentagon has also said or the white house said this has happened before, during the previous administration. the former secretary of defense, one of them, at least, because there was secretary mattis during the previous administration as well, but secretary esper, the last defense secretary under donald trump said that he didn't remember this while he was in office or while he was holding that position and that he believes he would have remembered something like this. do you have any knowledge of this happening before? >> so i can say that i believe the pentagon is correct when it says that this has happened before. i am somewhat skeptical of the narrative that this is accidental given the history of china with their balloons.
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>> any reason to believe this is china trying to send a message that they knew that it would get low enough for the public to see and they wanted this out there? >> so i'm not a china expert. i'm a military technologies expert. i'm a technical analyst. but i am a bit perplexed as to why they would put this somewhere that the u.s. public could see it. as we said earlier, when you play the spy game, everybody likes to pretend that they're not doing it. the u.s. and other nations have relied on other satellites for overhead surveillance for decades. bringing balloons back is a throw back to cold war vintage technology. it offers very few advantages over satellites, so i am a bit mystified why this is happening, and i can't offer an explanation as to why they would do this when it's clearly damaging
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relations. >> i mean, they were over montana, i don't know if they were over the nuclear silo. that is certainly what's in montana. any reason to believe they can gather anything more through this technology that they couldn't do from a satellite? >> i can't really speculate on that because i don't know what sensors they have. i don't know what's going on on the ground. but i can tell you that whenever nuclear powers have hostile powers or foreign powers over their nuclear, strategic nuclear sites, that's a big deal. that's important to countries. this is kind of the crown jewel of capabilities, so this tends to raise the antibodies this a country where this has happened. this would be considered pretty provocative because nuclear facilities are so classified and so important to u.s. strategic national interests. >> pretty provocative indeed.
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brynn tannehill, thank you for joining us and bringing us this technology. cfo allen weisselberg might be in more legal trouble, what he's facing and how it might relate into another probe with donald trump himself. the white house takes a victory lap after the release of jaw dropping jobs numbers, what is behind the unexpected hiring surge and what you can do to take advantage of this moment. we have financial advice you can use coming up. plus, won't you step into the freezer? it's going to be cold, cold, cold. it's not a phish song. it is your weekend forecast. bill karins is here to tell you how many layers you need to put on if you have to go outside tonight and tomorrow. o put on if you have to go outside tonight and tomorrow just buy any footlong in the app, and get one free. free monsters, free bosses, any footlong for free! this guy loves a great offer.
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weisselberg might be facing even more legal trouble. people familiar with the matter tell "the new york times" district attorney's office has warned that it might file new a fraud charges against weisselberg pressuring him to cooperate in a broader investigation into the former president. it comes as prosecutors begin to present evidence to a grand jury about donald trump's involvement in hush money payments to stormy daniels. sources tell the "times" the new charges would center on unrelated insurance fraud and could lead to a significant prison sentence for the 75-year-old. joining me now, law professor at the university of michigan law school, and msnbc legal analyst barbara mcquade. so how do you read into this? >> well, katy, it appears that alvin bragg and the manhattan district attorney's office has resuscitated criminal investigations into donald trump related to the stormy daniels hush money, and insurance fraud.
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the key witness in that case, the one telling us publicly he's ready to testify is michael cohen. he entered a guilty plea and was sentenced to three years for criminal activity including the payment of hush money to stormy daniels and so he no doubt would be a key witness in this case. if you're a prosecutor, you don't want to build your entire case around michael cohen because he's a convicted perjurer. it's also good to corroborate with live testimony. allen weisselberg likely has that information. i can understand why prosecutors might want to explore his cooperation. >> you would imagine they put quite a bit of pressure on him in the fraud trial for -- against the trump organization. how much more pressure can they put on him realistically to get him to say something different? he's already said he has no information against donald trump. >> yeah, i don't know. it may be that this does not
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come up as a fruitful exercise as you said in the prior case, the tax case against the trump organization and allen weisselberg himself, he did agree to provide information and testify against the trump organization but said he had nothing to share about donald trump himself. whether that is truthful or an unwillingness to be disloyal to his boss remains to be seen, and he was willing to take a five-month jail sentence, rather than testify against donald trump or perhaps it was because he had nothing to offer. i suppose the calculus becomes different if the prison time is longer than five months. he's probably worthy of exploring that willingness to cooperate by prosecutors before they give up on it. >> five months doesn't sound like all that long of a time all things considered. but it's five months at riker's. >> i wouldn't want to do a day, katy. >> thank you very much, appreciate it. and don't go outside if you don't have to, but if you do, what you need to know.
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♪ i'm feeling good vibes ♪ big economic news, unemployment is 3.4%. the last time the united states had a jobless rate this low was may 1969 when nixon was president, "gun smoke" was a top tv show and neil armstrong was getting ready to walk on the news. shout out to msnbc's charlie herman for that. the economy added 517,000 new jobs, smashing the expectation of 187,000. joining me now is nbc news business and data reporter, brian cheung. where did they come from. >> leisure and hospitalities, bars and restaurants, and health care. overall, we have to really underscore, again, this is not what analysts were expecting.
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they were expecting 187,000 jobs. we got more than double that, more than half a million jobs added in a month. >> why are we exceeding expectations on the job market. the fed has been trying to drive jobs off the market. why do we keep seeing the defying of the expectations, we're being told a recession is coming and everyone is tightening their belts. >> maybe people are more pessimistic than they should be. they're raising interest rates, and the bite of the early interest rate hikes at least have been fully felt probably by this point. a lot of economists say as the borrowing costs go up, businesses say it's more expensive for us to expand. we start to lay people off. that hasn't happened. the unemployment rate at 3.4%, matching levels we saw in 1969. it's backed up by data we got
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earlier this week, that shows an elevated 11 million jobs. not only are employers adding jobs but apparently they seek to add even more jobs beyond that. it's an interesting, weird dynamic. >> are these full-time jobs that have, you know, an open end date, are they full-time jobs for the foreseeable future or are these part-time seasonal jobs. >> for the most part, they're full-time jobs. that's the lion's share. when it comes to the measure of job openings, you're at business and put postings on linked in, does that count as an open job posting or not. there's nuances about that that matter. you go out to restaurants or bakeries or retail stores, and they're looking to hire people. we talk about the tech layoffs, a lot of people are losing their jobs, and not to discount what's happening in silicone valley, you look at the airline industries, united is looking for pilots, alaska airlines is staffing up. apparently it's peak burrito season between march and may. there's a lot of businesses that
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are consumer facing that are still looking for workers. walmart raised their wages. it's not necessarily the case that what's happening in silicone valley is happening elsewhere. >> though they have been raising wages people are not doing so well, even with the increased money walmart has been spending. another dollar walmart gave. >> it's going to be different depending on your area. the national average from 17 to 17.50. >> thank you so much. and joining me is a member of the white house council of economic advisers, jared bernstein. hello, my friend. so what do you chalk these numbers up to? >> the president is executing on a plan that he talked about before he got here. when he asked me to help on the campaign, he told me, jared, we have two simultaneous problems, a health crisis and an economic crisis, and we have to hit them hard and simultaneously. so checks in pockets, shots in arms, the rescue plan set us up
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for the strongest job market recovery in our history. 517,000 jobs in januar as you've been discussing. we don't look at one month. we're always looking to see the trend. you can have a month that surprises, as we saw for january. 12.1 million jobs, that's the trend since the president got here. that's the overall number throughout all the different industries and sectors. if we look at manufacturing, up 800,000 jobs. that's a very important sector to this president, and what's more, we build on those gains with plans for 2023, when it comes to executing the inflation reduction act, c.h.i.p.s act and bipartisan infrastructure law. we're not just sitting on our hands, we want to build on what we have seen so far. >> americans are still suffering, still feeling a lot of pain, especially from inflation at the grocery store, it's just too high still.
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can you explain why we are seeing the high prices that are just unrelenting at the grocery store. i'm going to take eggs out of it. eggs had bird flu issues. if you take eggs out of it and look at the rest of your grocery bill, it's a lot higher than it was last year. >> inflation is still too high, but it's coming down. i think relentless is the wrong word in that regard. inflation, the most recent peak was 9.1%. that was back last summer. since then, we have seen six consecutive months of slower price growth, and in fact, on a monthly basis in december, inflation was slightly negative. now one reason for that was a strong decline in gas prices. gas prices are still about a buck 50 below where they were last june, and that's real breathing room. look, let's put the two conversations together. the strong job market, increasingly providing a real tail wind to working americans, and slower inflation. well, the result of that are
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real wage gains. wages have been growing in real terms over the past six months. that's through december. we don't have the january inflation number yet. so i think if you actually look at what the paycheck is doing, real wages have been growing. look, i want to reiterate what i said a second ago. we understand these prices are still too high. we will do everything we can, i should say, we will keep doing everything we can to maintain and build on the labor market gains. >> can i push back a little bit on the groceries. when you're talking about the lowering of inflation, and then you mentioned this, a lot of it has to do with gas prices. i think i will use the word stubborn for grocery prices. they're not coming down at the same clip as gas prices are. >> i think there's a difference, in the case of groceries, we're seeing inflation slow, which means prices are growing less quickly, and with gas prices, they have actually been falling,
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a buck 50 before their summer peak. that's something that we need to just continue to push on. i mean, one of the things that we can get away from is we're still in a world with an ongoing war and a part of the world where commodities are really important exports and two of those commodities are of course food products and energy. now, you know, with energy, the president took action early and hard by releasing oil from the strategic reserves and of course we're doing everything we can to help the people of ukraine. but, you know, i'm with you in terms of trying to continue to press on the progress that we've made on groceries where we see inflation growing less quickly, but it's not falling. >> jared, i've not go time, what's your message to the fed if they look at this and say they want to raise rates higher. >> we don't give messages to the fed. they're an independent fed. chair powell says he wants to maintain a strong labor market while pushing back on inflation, and that's very much what we're seeing today. >> jared bernstein, thank you
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she's a cbs news business analyst, which is why i say for one day only. >> exactly. >> things are weird, and the unemployment number is so low, but inflation is high, stubbornly high, interest rates are extremely high. how do you take advantage of this moment? >> i think it starts with figuring out what you want. and i think that's actually the really important part of the post pandemic period. we just had this intense time. we looked within ourselves. we saw illness, we saw death. it was scarey. we were disconnected from one another, and i think a lot of people had that time to actually say to themselves, is this actually how i want to live. and when you ask that question, the money part is really the secondary aspect of it. and so what i have been hearing so much on my podcasts and radio show, and from people who watch tv, and they'll say, you know, what do i do, how do i get there, and i really wrote this book because i was trying to give people a framework to start a process to say tell me
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bankrupt to go, and i'll help you figure out how to get there. >> if you just had a kid and you're figuring out how to budget for that child or you're about to have a kid, what do you need to keep in mind? >> no matter where you think your life is going, you start with where you are today. you're calling a ride share service, pick me up here, where is here, it means really taking a look at what are your resources right now. how much money do i have, how much money in the bank, what's my income and if i'm going to have a kid, what are my costs in the future. am i working simply to pay for child care. does it make sense to have one of us work a little less because we can defray some of those costs. part of the process is, what do you want, people say, sure, i want to stay home, i can't say home. be realistic about what your wants are, your needs are, work backward, and say what's going
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on in my liabilities, what debt have i wracked up. what are my obligations to my family. a lot of people came out of covid with this enhanced vision of what they wanted their future to look like. when they looked at where they are today, they said i'm willing to make different sacrifices. how are you going to articulate to the people around you. what if you said to your kids when they were, 10, 12, don't worry, we're going to pay for your college, and then all of a sudden, it's a few years later, and you say, i don't want to have the job that will allow me to actually pay for that college. what am i going to tell my kid. you have to take into account the obligations you have made to one another, your family members. where do you want to be, not just like physically, but emotionally and spiritually. >> so if you're in a job and you want to renegotiate your position or you think it's been a while since you've got an raise. you talk about this in the boom, and you call it bullying your boss, it's a step by step
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process. we've got a full screen. >> button up your big ask. so many people have been saying, i hear the leverages with the employer, not necessarily and not every business. figure out what you want, what you're worth, what are you bringing to the table. you're not going to go to your boss in an industry that's in consolidation mode. you're not going into technology and say i'm going to pound my hand on the desk and get a raise. what is the big picture, what is the narrower picture your company, your industry and your boss. i think when you look at the long-term implications of what you are actually trying to do in your career, it's showing that you have worth, but also understanding that this may not be the only time you can ask. the why is just don't yuck is it up. i say that because a lot of people, i'm not allowed to curse in my book, i promised my girlfriend i wouldn't, so i said
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yuck it up. a lot of people do make a mistake in their negotiation process because they haven't figured out what they really want. they haven't practiced, they haven't really made sure that they know that they have a second option to bring to your boss. you know what, i get it, it's a hard time, but i'm wondering what can i do to put myself in a place to get the raise the next six months from now, when things have cleared up, when you have a better sense of where the company is going. give yourself an out. >> a lot of people look at the stock market and say i'm scared of it. is now a good time to get into it if you're curious, stock curious? >> okay, well if you're stock curious, investment curious really, you have a long-term time horizon, when people get freaked out as they did in march of 2020, what i try to do is say you're in it for the long-term, you don't have to worry about a day, month or year.
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the first month of the year is really great. i promise you, the day you decide to start investing, is the day the stock market depose over and rolls down. stick it out for the long-term, and remember, you don't need all of your money at once. you are doing this over a period of time. you will get there. but again, make sure you know where you want to go because it is awfully hard to get there. there is no road map. >> jill schlesinger, money money jill, as i hear your calls on another network. the book is called "the great money reset," go out and buy it. what millions of americans can expect when a once in a generation arctic blast hits the northeast. arctic blast hits the northeast. type 2 diabetes? discover the ozempic® tri-zone. in my ozempic® tri-zone, i lowered my a1c, cv risk, and lost some weight. in studies, the majority of people reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. ozempic® lowers the risk of major cardiovascular events such as stroke, heart attack, or death in adults also with known heart disease. and you may lose weight.
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in maine. joining me now is nbc news meteorologist bill karins. bill, i do not like the sound of those numbers. >> yeah, once in a generation, that's really for people in northern new england. you think of northern new england, they have seen it all. they've seen huge blizzards and snowstorms and ice storms, and arctic outbreaks. when you talk about those people seeing a once in a lifetime temperature, that's when it gets really significant. where do we sit right now, this morning, the coldest air was located over the great lakes, still cold in chicago, windchills at 1. the worst has now blown through buffalo into northern new england. burlington's at negative 9 temperature, windchill is negative 34, and northern maine, negative 39. i've just heard a report that there's a four alarm blaze at an industrial complex. imagine being a firefighter, going outside and going to a blaze when it is negative 39 windchill. i mean, i can't even imagine what they're going through with
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that. here's a closer view of northern new england's windchills. this one jumps out of course. negative 94. you're like, what? that's the top of a mountain. 6,500 feet. that's a weather observation area. that's why that's a crazy number. even negative 40s in loudenville. greenville at negative 42. the really dangerous and you get frostbite in about two to four minutes when it gets to negative 40 and 50. no exposed skin or you will end up in the emergency room. areas to the south, it's not quite as bad and dramatic, not fun, but not as dramatic as northern new england. and tomorrow morning, negative 10 in albany, but then things quickly warm up. wind dies down, sun comes out. saturday is a cold day regardless, monday, 50, once again. boston into the 40s and areas in northern new england are going to warm up significantly. hold on. >> i like those numbers a lot. i'll tell you what happens when you go fight a fire in that sort of temperature.
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