thursday. putting up a non scalable fences, around the capitol grounds and raising the threat level. this will be the first national address by president biden since the midterm election, split convict questionable control. last time president biden and vice president kamala harris made a joint appearance of the democratic -- delivering a likely preview of its primetime address. >> democrats, we are delivering actually, we are delivering big-time. just today, president biden announced record job growth. [applause] >> as strong as two years ago -- three 4% unemployment, the lowest in 54 years. the biggest investment in american infrastructure since irons in the powers administration, interstate highway system. and by the way, by the way, we paid for everything we did.

[applause] >> i intend to get it done, more than a sami asked a simple question. are you with me? [applause] >> back with me now is nbc news reporter barrett gone back and of course, kara, it looked like 2024 vibes to me. tell me what you're hearing about what president biden is going to say on tuesday. >> the president is traveling today, but tomorrow is going to be covered hunkering down at camp david putting the entering string touches honesty. it's going to be his first big national political speech since the midterms, midterms that were by the, way so much better for democrats than they thought they were going to be. so it's going to be a little bit of a victory lap of the speech on tuesday. it's going to be talking about the accomplishment of the biden ministration including the infrastructure, lot the inflation reduction act, the american rescue plan, all of the things that got done over the past two years. he spent in the last week making visits to some of the places that are really going to be impacted by the legislation that is passed. in baltimore, philly, new york,

looking at some of the tunnels, the bridges, of the roadways that are going to have a money thrown into it because of that legislation. but the speech is also going to be forward-looking and looking towards the future a little bit. there are things that the president needs to get done, then there's things that the president wants to get done. in terms of the, needs this debt ceiling situation, and of course funding the government, absolutely both need to happen in the coming year. but then there's the wants from the democrats, and president biden in this white house which include, on police reform, on assault weapons, as we have seen this week in the past couple of. weeks and as it relates to immigration, all of the issues that of course are going to take a lot of working together here in washington. something that doesn't always happen very easily. but it is what president biden is calling his the unity agenda over the next two years. then there is of course, the elephant, or i should say the donkey in the room which is, we don't expect president biden to announce he's running for president tuesday night, but that is going to come with in the coming weeks we are told, and we believe, because of the fact that we are now less than

a year away from the very first democratic primaries of 2024. humid? >> they really have to do a lot in the speech we've given the republicans control the house and gary, thank you so much. back with me this hour, msnbc political analyst and former maryland congressman minh, donna edwards. and doers david, senior adviser to the lincoln project and author of it was all a lie, how the republican party became donald trump. so robert, also with you, i want to play some sound for you of president biden talking at the dnc loss tonight, take a listen. >> really republicans try to cut some security, it's not going to get by the senate, in my view. but all stop them. if they try to cut medicare, i'll stop them. i have a veto pan. [applause] if they try to pass 30% national sales, arcs of south. if this and we national banner of the right to choose, i will

stop them. [applause] >> so president biden saying i have a veto pen, not at all right now wanting to negotiate on the debt ceiling. tell me a bit about what you expect to hear tuesday night, and what we just heard, how that might play into that. >> i think not only does the president have a veto pen, he has a united states senate that's in democratic hands. and so, i think the president, he will be presidential, he will be standing in that room talking about accomplishments, but also talking about the future. it will be a start contrast with what reports to be the republican agenda if you can call it that, an agenda of investigations and not really getting much done. looking ahead, the president probably will speak about the need to do the debt ceiling in order to make sure that we

maintain our economic progress. he'll talk about the need to fund the united states government. these are things that are in republican hands, to be quite frankly. democrats are united on these two issues, it will be republicans who stand in the way. i think the president is going to present a really stark contrast that, you know to do something democrats, and do nothing republicans. >> i certainly am hearing that we're getting a bit of a feisty president. biden stewart, you have republicans in the house saying that they want to negotiate on the debt ceiling. they're even saying they want to make spending cuts in particular, but once exactly what those cuts are. so what are you hearing about republicans and their stance here? >> you know, republicans don't really have a platform. you know, for years the to sort of quarter storms of the party would've been the economy, and national defense foreign policy. right now, the economy is doing great. these record jobs numbers, and president biden is the one up

there who is leading the coalition to really save democracy in ukraine. the pro putin element, the pro-russian element of american politics is inside the republican party. so, you know, those of us, a lot of us who work here at the american republican party, we look and go what does this party stand for now? the talk about investigating hunter biden, nobody cares about this stuff. and it usually those that have the biggest agenda, and the most optimistic, and the most positive win elections. and i just don't see what republicans are trying to get done here that anybody really cares about. >> well you can see that republicans are definitely trying to attack an appeal to their base on the hard right. donna, i want to switch topics and talk also about police reform. it's an issue that we expect president biden to talk about. i want to put up a new poll frio. the washington post abc news poll shows american on confidence in police officers not using excessive force has a

dropped after the tragic death of tyre nichols. i wonder what the republicans controlling the house, and democrats wanting to get something done, maybe republicans want to two, what do you make of whether or not president biden is going to put behind this policing reform push, the political muscle it might need. >> well, look i think the president expressed just a couple of days ago his commitment to police reform. and again, this is another thing that really is in the hands of republicans. you'll recall that a police reform bill passed in the house and came very close in the senate. and now with the change in leadership in the house to republican control, i think that, you know, they had an opportunity to work with democrats to get this done with the american people. it is not a good thing in this country when a majority of people do not have confidence in law enforcement that is supposed to be a partner in communities, and has turned to

be an adversary. so, i think that it's incumbent on all of us for republicans and democrats to get this right. what do i think the chances are? i think they're slim. >> it's definitely going to be an uphill battle to get policing reform done. and stuart, i want to also ask you as a republican's response of the state of the, it is going to be delivered by our sarah huckabee, she's also the white house press secretary. that's what is usually for rising stars and the gop. what you make of the fact that she is the one delivering, it and what you expect her to say? >> let's just pause to see how ironic, you watched her as white house press secretary. this is someone who admitted, under oath, that she lied to the american people. about what had happened in the fbi. she made up a story that all these fbi agents were calling her outraged, or demanding he resigned, or be fired. and she later admitted this is just something she completely made. so i mean, you could pink

anybody you want to do this, and they're picking someone who is an admitted liar? who obviously has no record of achievement, she just got elected. i think it shows the short of bankruptcy of the republican bench. here they don't know what to. do so let's put snow huckabee sanders out there. let's see how that works. it's not going to be anything but people really pay attention to. i think, just the fact that she's doing it says >> we'll definitely be watching her rebuttal. donna don't edwards, and stevens, you're sticking around because next, we'll have to take a look, we'll take you live to fill with the democratic national committee is getting ready to vote on a new primary schedule. keep it here for more msnbc reports. ore msnb reports. these payroll forms... my business' payroll taxes will calculate themselves. right? uhh...nope. intuit quickbooks helps you manage your payroll taxes, cheers!

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[applause] >> i ran for president. [applause] [crowd chanting] >> for more years! >> i ran for president. >> for more years! [crowd chanting] >> thank. you >> were waiting for a vote sometime soon that may change how democratic candidates are elected. president biden is urging the democratic national committee to overhaul its primary calendar, and put south carolina at the front of the pack to make the first to vote on a presidential primary candidate. iowa has traditionally been at the first, a position it has held since 1972. but last cycle, south carolina became famous for saving joe biden in his 2020 presidential campaign. joining us now from philadelphia is nbc news correspondent, marissa perry. somerset, talk to us about all these changes, proposed changes,

what's going on there? >> yeah, so, in terms of the immediate in your future that vote is expected anytime in the next few minutes. of course, or listening intently to see what is going to come from. of course what they're deciding on is officially the order when it comes to the democratic nominee primary process. so you said it just now, iowa, new hampshire have long held the tradition of being in the four states to have that iowa. caucus around for 50, years and then the buddy new hampshire primary which has been around for roughly 100. what we're seeing here is the argument being made, this is proposed by president biden, and is expected to pass, but what's being proposed here is the argument that is made is that iowa and new hampshire are to rural and not diverse enough to reflect the demographic of democratic voters. south carolina is a better choice. we know, as you mentioned, just how pivotal south carolina was when it comes to president biden's election. so, in terms of why south

carolina was chosen specifically -- what he had to say. >> by the time we got to south carolina, 99% of african americans, and almost 99% of latino americans had no say in deciding who the presidential primary candidate would be. so now we are making sure that the diversity in our party is reflected in terms of the diversity in the selection of the next president of the united states. >> so we mentioned any mention now we are expecting to hear the results of that vote. and if it turns out that south carolina doesn't become the very first state to have the primary in this new or, well in terms of what happens next yamiche, the interesting here is that new hampshire says their hands are tied. there's a state law that says that they have to have the first primary in the country. and right now, new hampshire is

a state that is republican control. so the chances of that law being overturned are kind of slim to none. so if the dnc moves toward with this, making stark caroline of the state, and if president biden runs for reelection, the really interesting thing here is that we might see president biden not campaign in new hampshire as a primary altogether, which would be a stunning twist to. >> it would be a stunning twist. as stunning as when south carolina revived his presidential campaign. somerset, thank you so much for your reporting. >> for more on this we're joined again by former democratic congresswoman donna edwards, she's also an immense nbc political analyst. back with us also is stewart's even, senior visor for the lincoln project. so, donna, what do you make of these proposed changes, what could happen? >> well, first of, all i do think that the package of changes will pass. i think that there is a sentiment among democrats that the primary states, the early

states need to be more reflective of the country. take a state like south carolina. 30%, almost 80% of the population are african americans. then you have a small state like new hampshire that comes three days later that has its own benefits, and i think new hampshire would be foolish to not have the president of the united states campaigning in a democratic primary because they will still get the benefit of all that money that's being spent and, you know, the arguments for new hampshire is a small state, a more intimate state. then you look at a state like georgia that has a growing asian population. i think that this array of states is more reflective. nevada with the latino population, of what we're going to see play out in the country. and you get the benefit of small states, large states, states with rural areas, i think democrats are going to be excited about this new calendar. >> and certainly president biden is going to be excited

about this. which of course, stewart, i want to read something from the new york times. they put it this way, talking about democrats who may have been hesitant about president biden. they say nearly all have come to the same conclusion -- or bust, what do you make of that in the new york times, and you think president biden has united democrats around the idea that he's going for a second term? >> well listen, one of the things that someone who spent years pointing out flaws in the democratic party but now hold the democratic party is going to emerge victorious here in 2024, i've never understood this need not to unify around biden. the idea that democrats actually had an alternative state of the union address this time to struck me as insane. he's your guy, before him. if i can give one message to democrats, it would be to be more confident. there are more of you than there are of them, the country is headed in the right direction. this is a very successful administration. walk with confidence.

so i hope democrats do that. you know, changing this primary election is not going to have any impact on who's going to be the democratic nominee. but it could have a big impact on the republican, because independents in new hampshire, if there's not an active democratic primary that will freedom up to all voting republican primaries they so choose, that could have a monumental impact on who ends up winning new hampshire in the republican senate. >> as you bring up the republicans, i want to of course talk to you, donna, about former human and bastard nikki haley. she's expected to announce that she's running for president. let's take a look at what former president trump said about nikki haley. -- >> in the case of nikki haley, she's gone around public, it uses all of advice she said i'm gonna run against my president, he's a great president, he's been our greatest president, on run, all never run. but nikki suffers from something that a very tough thing to suffer from, she's overly ambitious. >> overly ambitious, donna,

what do you make of that? well, apart from the massage earnest tone from overly ambitious when describing a woman, i think nikki haley and these other republicans who might run, who are former trump supporters, really have a dilemma here. it's not clear what lane the running in, and i think it has the effect of whether it's nikki haley on a whole range of other republicans who might run, of splitting up that anti trump vote, and effectively delivering the nomination to donald trump. so it could have the reverse impact. i think what you see here from donald trump's comment, he's going to go full force. that's probably what he does best against these candidates. and while they may not respond immediately, at some point or another they're probably going to respond to defend themselves, i think it's going to be very difficult. >> and stewart quickly to you, in a few seconds we have left,

here what do you make of this widening gop field? >> look, i think donald trump is going to be the nominee. and if someone like nikki amy just strikes me as a tragic case of somebody who has a great future behind them. if she had stayed who she said she was, she could have a future. but she's known for saying donald trump was everything she wanted her children not to be to saying she wants to run to continue to trump legacy. and that is just so sad to see. donald trump has a history of breaking candidates once they get in the race and she looks to me to be broken before she got in the. race >> well it's certainly going to be interesting. thank you so much for murder congressman donna edwards, and stewart stevens. still to come, changes to the ap african american studies curriculum for students. how and why we got to this point. just as black history month kicks off. we'll bring it all to you, just stick around after the break. fter the break u level up

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have become ground zero for america's latest culture war. this week the college board revised its new ap african american studies course. cutting down material that governor ron desantis argued was a trojan horse far-left reigned ideology. the board insists it did not give into political pressure and that these were versions were long planned. but the changes to the course directly impact subjects that were long under fire from republican, and florida officials. the new course excludes topic -- includes product debate over reparations from its exam are now only listed as options for research. projects this week, ron desantis also announced he plans to bush state universities who are spending funds on diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives. this all comes as cars florida becomes the epicenter of anti

lgbtq legislation. -- and rodrigo had leighton executive director for the national center for trans gender equality. thank you both for being here. david i want to start with. you college board saying we did not given, other people, critics saying that you water distancing that the republican, including ron desantis that there were happy. what do you make of the consequences of this. the impact that it's going to, have especially on students who are talking about their lived experiences? >> yeah, i appreciate the question and want to name have russia did i am that we're talking about this in black history month and out of all the black news that we could be talking about, -- relatively conscious in america. almost always be in a constant state of rage. i am an ridge that desantis has been engaged in an all out attack on academic freedom on free speech and on our core pillars of democracy including public school. we got here because this is simply a manifestation of white nationalism. our public schools have been under attack, and desantis deciding that his history is

the core curriculum wall parts of my history are maybe at some point offered as an elective is a reflection of white nationalism. what i know as a black man is that you can't talk about -- the civil rights movement and the march in washington 68. we can't talk about feminism structures, our struggle, without naming marsha p. johnson without -- it is not possible to move passing knowledge into wherever there's history, there's black history, and wherever there's black history, it's always been queer. specific question about the college board, one of things that enrages me most is the capitulation of positions of power. the college board is a century -year-old organization that decided to engage in this process being politically ignorant to the fact that desantis has created conditions that make it difficult for teachers to want to teach these topics to begin with. that's created conditions where libraries have emptied shelves because they are worried about

tripping over, and intentionally vague policy. we should all be concerned because at the core, this is about disrupting democracy, and preventing the kind of civil discourse that some people with desantis's party privilege when they talk about freedom of speech. >> and rodrigo so many people agree with what david is saying, it's about intersectionality, it's about not erasing queer people from the history, black history, all history. what's your reaction? >> well these courses are essential for building an america as good as its ideals. i mean, learning about american history and all of its complexity, the good and the bad, is how we build a better future. this is how we learn about how to build a world free of racism, where everyone can thrive, and everyone including black americans, and black lgbt americans, we are all apart a fabric of the society. we all have a place in this history. we have always been here. and learning about that history

is how we can figure out how to build a society in which all of us get the health care that we need. are free from violence unable to thrive. >> and rodrigo also want to ask you about this florida policy were high school students may now soon be required to report their menstrual history to their schools. talk to me how that could be problematic, and how that could be traumatizing for a community that is already dealing, and struggling with so much. >> well it's absolutely an invasion of privacy. i think that's obvious to all of us when we think about young people having to report on private medical information like that. what is motivating this is an attempt to restrict transgender young people from being accepted. you know, this is not just about politics, this is about something much bigger. it's that transgender people are becoming increasingly

accepted in our society, which is a great thing. more and more americans are realizing that hey, they know somebody who's trans. maybe their neighbor's transgender, maybe their kid's coming out as transgender, and that that's okay, and it deserves to be celebrated. anti lgbtq ideologues, who long thought on -- the terrified of the, future the terrified in a society in which everybody is accepted like that, they're trying to figure out how do they turn back that time. so they are going after transgender young people as a way to undermine support for lgbtq people across the. board what is so tragic about this is that they're going after the most of vulnerable in our community. you know, transgender kids are kids. they, like every other child, deserves love and respect. so to see elected officials, who are supposed to be leaders, weaponizing vulnerable young

people like this is really heartbreaking to see. >> and david, there are some who are also saying that -- weaponizing funds by defunding diversity inclusion programs. what you think the impact of that could be, especially on black students who face all sorts of the specific challenges that are different from other people. of course there are all the other ethnicities and lived experiences that also would be impacted by this. >> yeah i appreciate the question. governor desantis came from a degrees as i majored in african american studies, and asa hilliards that i never met a child in particular -- we first acknowledge them as human, then we second support them with. up to your point, yamiche, suicide rates for black youth have doubled in the last two decades which is alarming because kids don't ask to be born, but those rights have decreased for every other committee of children. we also note that mental health, depression, anxiety have, those

rates are extreme and students who identify, or soon to be, lgbtqia plus, we don't collect data on both. what we know is that this already cause additional stress when we're dealing with and -- i want to be clear that this is about our children who again, didn't ask to be born, this is about our country, and it's about defending democracy, we understand this is a engaging in white nationalist practices that we have seen before. -- we wrote history books to uphold pathologies that maintain privilege and rights of privacy, we should all be wary of what's happening and be engaged in the fight against. >> i could talk to both of you all day but i have to go, thank you so much david, and rodrigo. and a programming note, tomorrow on msnbc films presents -- its latest installment of the documentary series the chilling point, the film offers an intimate look at this -- threatened by deportation, and

determine lawyers who want to stop at nothing to keep families together. jenna's alex separate talks about how we can use the trump administration to better our mystery. shun >> the silver lining of the trump administration is that he really exposed just how terrible this system is. [bleep] >> we should be out ridge that we fell in the trump years from the muslim ban to kids being ripped from their families at the border. and take that and use it to help us understand how this system function, or doesn't function. and demand something different. >> watch guerrilla heaviest tomorrow at 10 pm eastern right here on msnbc, and streaming on peacock. next, a new kind of neighborhood watch, a group of black men in detroit doing their part to help the communities in every way that they can't. we'll talk to the organizations

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following the death -- of his aseptic to the plate to protect and serve back. communities nearly six years ago during the civil rights movement the black panther party was created to patrol black never hoods, protect residents from police brutality, and promote social change. now in this modern day a

grassroots organization is expanding on its work to protect and serve the black community. -- new air nation in detroit so zeke. thank you for being here. black people are three times more likely to be killed by the police talk a bit about why it's important to do the work that you're doing. >> it's extremely important, we talk about community is, a lot communities in particular, the crying and the violence amongst ourselves. you know, we want to be able to put ourselves in a position to where if things pop off or if you know something happens and our community it doesn't always have to be a police thing. we believe that it will be bodied men in their community should be able to step up to the plate and do more to police their own communities. we're extremely big on. that were extremely big on accountability and making sure that we look at ourselves and say, systematically it we're looking at a situation that is

not broken, it's just a system that has been in place that has never really had us in mind, and protected us and mind. that's just the facts of the matter. so if we know that, as opposed to going year after year, after we see something and someone else get killed by the police, why don't we put ourselves in a situation to do more to police our own communities. essentially that's what we do across the country. >> and tell me a bit about the programs that you're offering and the principles, the core principles of your group. >> so, yes we are a community organization. you know our whole principle was making sure that we would have to make organization lifestyles so to kind of get out of the cliché, you know, just doing something for community won its holiday seasons are when it's an event. but essentially, making it a lifestyle to get out in the community. build relationships with people on low work on realistic issues and not wait until something happens. this is not something that we

did after a police killing, this is something that we have been doing consistently in our communities across the country for eight years and consistent. our core values and what we stand on is accountability, self accountability, first making sure that we hold ourselves accountable to get out here and move more. how's hold accountability, which is environmental accountability, making sure we hold others around us accountable and be on the same. port community accountability, which is, three making sure that we get out in the community and hold ourselves accountable for doing more in the communities that we live in and tell people in our communities are catchable for doing more in our communities than we have economic accountability. making sure we do more to a crease economic stability in -- build more black businesses, support more black businesses. the number one employer of black people's black businesses. and we're a trillion dollar business when it comes to us

being able to put money out. so we want to make sure that we're able to put that back. and then our fifth level of accountability is political accountability. we must be able to organize ourselves in a way to where when it comes to politics we are actually able to make votes count. not just the typical gotten vote. political education, educating her community on what politics is, how it directly affects them and speaking more in terms of what positions are set in place as too -- to do those. things >> over talk a bit too about the black panther party. i want to make sure understand. the black counter party it had woman and as part of it. it was -- woman played integral role part of. that is that also part of your group, or woman separate, is what's the situation there? >> no, absolutely. the recent videos that a lot of people, missy they may see the brothers out in the community you know, protecting the sisters, the kids, the elders,

you know that's just our part. but we have 17 different programs. just like the plaque back the party, -- the party was predominantly black, women the same thing with organization. we've got very brilliant black women all across the country, within our organization helping pushing programs. we have programs for financial literacy to mental health to conflict revolution resolution which is one of our biggest programs. make sure we are understanding how to resolve conflict. particularly we're talking about in school with kids and the uptick of, you know, crime against kids on kids. conflict resolution is huge. but we do a lot in our community and it's both a combined effort for men and women. n >> talk to me about the future of your group. where is it going, what do you hope to accomplish in the next

few years and months? >> so our goal is to make organizational life changes. our goal is to be a black community nationwide and worldwide, working in nigeria parts of africa too, and we will put a system in place for what is day to day organizations and black communities? sure enough, we have thousands upon thousands of black organizations, but our goal is to make sure that we are able to define what organization actually looks like in black communities. what does it look like to be organized in our communities, and work towards our issues and our problems you're around. and so our goal is to make sure that we push the blueprint that we frayed here in the city of detroit, and push it all across the country and all across the world. and anyway the black people commute. >> definitely a powerful, group growth that i'm excited to learn more about. so thank you so much zeke williams. >> thank you. >> and up next, it's coated

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attention to sports and music, you know it's going to be a busy couple of weeks. from super bowl 57 to the outcoming grammy awards to beyoncé founds, myself included, gearing up to get tickets to her new world tour. there's a lot to talk about. joining me to talk about all of this is connor phillips, senior writer for that spin and chris weather spoon, founder and ceo of pop viewers, msnbc entertainment contributor. and so i'm not want to see if he can get beyoncé tickets if you can find them, they might break to try to get them, so tell me a little bit about what you make of take it mike are trying to change what they are doing after the taylor swift debacle to try to make this process smoother. >> yeah, i mean listen, if i can get you take it, i will get

them. right now beyoncé is the moment, she's an icon, she is a legend. all of the things, we are seeing a lot of the take is that we are talking about which is called speculative ticketing. so much of this need to like stubhub, seat geek, these are all third-party resellers and they're right between five or $3, 000, but looking at ticket master, fan demand exceeds the amount of tickets available but 100 percent. so people are really wanting these tickets, and they will go on sale officially on monday. i think part of the reason why is that there are no visuals for beyoncé's album. folks have not seen videos, and so many cases, this concert is such high stakes for fans like us and we've not seen music videos and this never has happened before, the caliber of artist have beyoncé's status doing a world tour and there are no music videos for a new album. >> well i'm so excited about it. i'm also excited because she is

nominated for nine grammys. what do you think happened here when it comes to making history, maybe winning some of these categories, these major categories that she is not one in before? >> i think at the end of the day, these major categories, we recognize that beyoncé is coming in, she's leading heat with grammy nominations. she's tied with jay-z for the most grammy nominations ever. 88. but keep in mind, she never has won best album of the year. so this is going to be a big moment for her. she needs those four grammy nominations to beat the most winning artist male or female of all time. but in many ways, she's been snubbed in the past. think about five years ago whenever adele got to the stage, she won album of the year and said that this award belongs to beyoncé. sunday night, tomorrow night is a man opportunity for the recording academy to make things right, and i will be watching to make sure that happens. >> and carter, i want to ask you about the super bowl, there will be two black quarterbacks. my husband is only really talking about one, jalen hurts,

he's a huge philadelphia eagles fan, but tell me about the significance of this moment with two black man stating -- facing off in the super bowl. two>> like you said, it is a historic moment for us all. this is the super bowl. . this is the number one most watched thing on the planet. last year, this past year, 82 of the most watched games in america where nfl games, and before that, it was 75. so when you turn into see the halftime show about beyoncé, like she's done twice in the past, or you are there for the commercials or the game itself, everyone is going to be tuned in. and this edition, we have historic moment with two black quarterbacks, and how that has changed and progressed overtime, i don't want this ignorance of the moment to go to people's heads. and for me myself, i am thinking of all of the black quarterbacks who did not get an opportunity in the past who were great heiskell quarterbacks in college quarterbacks. but they were told to play wide

receiver or defensive back, running back, and to make it in the nfl and they never got that opportunity to now be in the moment where the league is progressing for black quarterbacks, and now we just need to see that same progression when it comes to black coaches. >> and when you make of the kelsey brothers? but also looking to make history as the first brothers to face off in the super bowl. >> i think their parents and their family are gonna have a great day. we saw this a couple years ago with the herbals -- auerbach. that was the beyoncé super bowl. when the lights went out. and so this is the first time we have two brothers facing off in the super bowl. we had two coaches with john and jim auerbach going at each other, but just some cool stats with your two quarterbacks, two brothers facing each other in sports. >> and chris, when my husband is focused on the path of -- philadelphia eagles, i think longest rihanna concert. so bruce, what are from her performance and all that we will see? >> i've been calling this the

rihanna bull also. it is so important. i think last year we had 103 million people tuned in for mary j. blige institute dog and dr. dre. i think we might see that number go even higher, because rihanna has not gotten album in the last five years has not been doing any touring. i think that we might see her announce it world through next week, maybe even drop an album, but i think folks will be waiting to see what her set less, is who she brings to the stage, and just how she delivers it will be a spectacle for all of us to enjoy. >> if we honor and be on sale going on to her, i just don't have any money. i don't have any house, i don't have anything. so i want to ask you one last question which is, something else that is been on my mind, netflix is cutting down on password sharing. chris, in a few seconds we have left, talk to us about the people going through emotions about this actually. >> yeah, i mean listen, there's so many players now in the game if you think about paramount plus, hulu, and prime, they

don't really have the widespread sharing that netflix is really experiencing, and so i think people are going to be really hurting. i think it's going to happen next month, as early as next month. password sharing will stop, and i think this is a way for netflix to really take into account who is using netflix when they began, including advertisements, as part of the netflix experience, and they can account to who is watching these ads, but i think it will be a very sad day for a lot of people who have not experienced netflix in this community where they are sharing passwords. >> really great way to spend my saturday morning, talk about the super bowl, beyoncé, rihanna, and netflix. thank you so much karen and courage -- karen and chris. coming up tomorrow on the sunday show, my friend jonathan capehart welcomes congressman jim clyburn to get this reaction from the democratic national committee's vote on the primary schedule as preparations began for 2024. that is tomorrow at 10 pm right here on msnbc, and that'll do it for me, stay tuned for more of today's headlines with lindsey reiser in for alex witt at noon.

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