balloon has become a straw balloon testing biden's strength and resolve. unfortunately, the president failed that test. >> the concern of course is how you do it in a way that absolutely minimizes the danger to american lives on the ground and in the aviation operations? >> the president -- and the quarterback, tackling the quarterback after the game is over. the >> president himself said -- the military made it thoughtful. i trust the united states military. >> lots of differing opinions there to say the least. and a moment, i will speak to representative jim hines, member of the house intel committee, about this, including one of his republican colleagues calling for a biden impeachment over the balloon. i'm also going to ask the congressman about what he wants to hear at the presidency to the union address, as we get details on those preparations. we've got a lot more this hour as well. more candidates starting to emerge and take on donald trump.

the republican presidential primary, we will look at who, and what is their chance to defeat the former president. and later on this hour, from getting cops called on her to a shout out from, of all places, yale, i'm going to speak to nine-year-old bobbi wilson whose fascination with lanternflies made one neighbor suspicious but has made her family very proud. that's ahead this hour as well. we want to begin though once again with the fallout from the chinese spy balloon shot out of this guy off the carolina coast. beijing condemning the move to bring down the balloon. this is happening as u.s. senior government officials confirm the chinese balloon crossed into the u.s. at least three different times during the trump administration's. -- i wanna bring in msnbc national security analyst nick watt as well. george, let me start with you on this. when you are there in myrtle beach. what have you been seeing? >> good afternoon, yasmin. we know military operations to

recover the balloon debris and equipment have been ongoing, luckily at this hour, for the people here of myrtle beach, it has been pretty dreary. officials thankful for that because it has kept people off the beach, which is what they want. some of this debris presumably will wash on shore of the carolinas in the -- they want this to be handled by the proper authorities. they don't want people coming here to take any of this home and impede this investigation, which will obviously be taking place as more equipment gets washed onshore. pretty clear day. we have we -- earlier in the morning we saw -- in the water. it has moved way offshore. we know at this point it will be a swift and strategic operation. we know the recovery is expected to be moving fairly quickly. i do want to have you listen to what one myrtle beach police official told us as far as the recovery efforts of any debris as it may washed onshore in the next several days.

take a listen. >> we were given an alert that there may be military action and that takes place off our coast. in that, there may be debris that washes up on our shoreline here. if there is any debris that washes up, what we want to tell everybody to do is contact law enforcement right away so we can secure that and turned it over to the federal authorities. >> that is the key thing here from officials. they want to warn the public that yesterday this was a big hoopla, a lot of people were out here taking videos, recording it, watching this balloon hit the water, what they don't want to people to find any of this debris or think this might be a fun souvenir if they are here visiting. they want to be able to handle this in-house and get it to the proper authorities as the investigation unfolds. >> george for us, i will let you get back to the, george. thank you. let's talk through some of. this in the last hour i spoke with general mccaffrey. he suspect we will not learn a lot from the remains of this balloon after it is all gathered up. what is your suspicion here

with that? what can we glean from these remnants? >> a couple things. first, i would say that, remember, it was under observation for at least four days, pretty much continuously. you see it from the footage we are watching right there and we have watched over the last three or four days, the military was watching as well. they have a good understanding what that is. and they also have things like signals intelligence, other aerial surveillance, satellite capabilities. they may have a very good idea what that balloon was for. by all indications, what they've said publicly, it seems they are convinced it was a spy balloon of some sort. second, if they can get a hold of some of the material, it might give them a better idea of the construction, verifying a lot of things they maybe think they know but are not entirely positive about yet. remember, this fell from a very tremendous altitude, like general mccaffrey, said we have seen airline crashes and things like, that even when it falls

in the water when, still highly likely that it is very damaged at this point. >> i asked general mccaffrey this question as well. i'm wondering what you think of it. do you suspect this balloon was operating autonomously? do you think it would be controlled by china as it was floating over the united states? >> in some of the press accounts, it seems they thought china could maneuver it to some degree. it is a balloon. it's not like an aircraft that can be moved wherever it needs to go or they would've wanted to go. but it does have some control capability, it seems like. what i am remarkably surprised about is that it was observable. look at the footage we see in this right here. the chinese surely would have thought we would have discovered this. it seems we have detected this in the past. this is very brazen. it's not the only one. it seems there were -- it begs the question, what was china trying to do with this balloon that they would let this mishap, if it's a mistake, or this intentionality, if it is something directed, occur?

especially at a time when tensions are so high with the u.s. anyway. >> we know the united states has learned -- who said he used in these types of balloons and that were -- to get a lay of the land for more safety reasons. we are now learning more that there were three balloons entering u.s. territory during the trump administration over the last decade. we are learning 20 to 30 balloon missions were launched by china with this who plus surrounding the downing of this balloon. it kind of seems somewhat of an embarrassment for china considering how low it was floating and how it was spot, it really, by folks on the ground. does this make this type of intelligence collection obsolete? do you feel as though china will stop using them? >> yeah, i would think they would. i also just know it's china and they probably won't. they seem to be very brazen with a lot of activity. it is also just surprising, china really accelerated everything in terms of space

and space exploration. separately, they have expanded intelligence collection in many ways. remember how much open source of their, is by the way. you can go and look at things on a map quite frequently, which brings me to the question, was there something else in terms of when -- that they were seeking to learn from? we can call it measurements and signatures. and normally, it is an alternative means that they are trying to collect on. that is what i am most curious. about what were they trying to get that they could not get from other capabilities they already had or your eye or any person using the internet could have at the same time. >> always great to talk to you about the stuff. i want to bring in a conversation congressman jim hines, house intel committee. great to talk to you. i said it, right, you are the new ranking member of the intel committee. what do you think is going to be the implications of this incident, considering the question that we -- just put out there, which was what was trump china trying to lure? >> thanks for having me,

yasmin. i think what people perhaps failed to appreciate is the counter intelligence value of recovering as much as this balloon and equipment as possible. just watching, because we live in a world where everything has to be a referendum on joe biden and donald trump, we are distracted from the fact that, first of all, nobody really knows whether what this thing was collected. i'm on the intelligence committee and i do not know. yet i expect to know what this week. we don't know what we are able to glean by inserting its capabilities, what sort of radio emanations it might have been doing. there is a lot of questions still out there. i will tell you this, though. it's a massive embarrassment for the chinese. you go to great lengths to protect their sources and methods. this is, by their standards, not a success. my guess is they will be a bit more careful about this sort of thing in the future. >> i keep scratching my head. we've been talking about this over the last hour. if china is so advanced in its

technology and intelligence capabilities, why do they have this massive white balloon floating at 60,000 feet in which folks from the ground can actually see it? do they really think we were not going to spot this thing? senator schumer said of a gang of eight, which you are now a part of, will get an intel briefing. anything you can tell us about that? >> the roughing has not happened yet. no, there was nothing i can tell you about. it went when it does, i may not be able to tell you much. i can tell you will get something in short supply, as everybody has been commenting. which is actually what happened. we have reason to believe that the chinese took a huge risk because there was something special about the equipment on this balloon and they couldn't obtain the information they were looking for by satellite. we will understand the tiktok around the presidents decision to wait until the balloon cleared of the continental united states the showdown. why did the military recommend that he wait until it not be overland? let me think we will get this week will be facts.

that will be a nice change of pace considering the breathlessness of all the commentary so far. >> yesterday, as we were breaking the story, there was a conversation as to whether or not the u.s. government needs to be more transparent with the public about intelligence gathering when it comes to our adversaries. g is this a conversation that is had behind closed doors? do you see any benefit to something like this? >> in this case, again, it's an interesting question. we don't want to necessarily talk about it. we won't talk about what we know about chinese or russian capabilities on satellites. we just don't talk about that because we don't want the russians and chinese to know what we know about them. this is a different case. this is something you can watch with a telescope in your backyard in montana. in this case, i think it is -- transparency would be a good thing. people get panicked when there is an absence of information. and, so more information in a case like this is better. again, having said what i did

about this turning into a referendum over joe biden and donald trump, not only do i want to understand this particular action, but we've heard from defense officials that in the trump administration that three of those things floated over the continental united states. -- this, is a somebody who does oversight, kind of my bread and butter. you >> brought it up. i want to get into that, which is republicans a response to all of this. many criticizing the biden administration and that they should have done something sooner, not allowed it to float continuously over the u.s. for some time. house republicans considering what we are learning in the resolution to condemn biden over this. michael mccaul, the chair of the foreign affairs committee saying, quote i, will be demanding answers and will hold the administration accountable for this embarrassing display of weakness. what do you think of? this >> what i think of this is that you have to separate this into two different things. number, when republicans in congress will, regardless of

facts, because michael mccaul has no more facts than i do right now, michael mccaul is chairman of the foreign affairs committee, he does not know anymore than i do. we will know next week. what that tells you as republicans, regardless of what happened, they will attack the president. the president -- ignoring the advice of his defense officials, they would be criticizing him for ignoring the advice of his generals. we need to accept it. whatever happens, in the total absence of facts, there will be deep criticism of the president. the other thing we need to remember here is that it is possible that all the decisions made here arguments making decisions, and they were right. that is where legitimate oversight comes in. let's understand the facts and come to a conclusion as you heard from one authority in this country in the congress as whether we think they did it right. what's not helpful is coming to conclusions, talking about impeachment when you have no facts. that's what you have heard and continue to hear going on right. now >> congressman, while i have, you i want to pivot to tuesday, the state of the union address by the president. what do you want to hear? >> the president isn't a pretty

strong position to talk about what i think americans care most about, which is not chinese balloons over south carolina, but the economic health of the union. we just saw a staggering jobs report, a stunning jobs report. half 1 million jobs created, nobody expecting that. inflation seems to be moderating. we should never lose sight of this, getting obsessed with balloons over montana. what matters to the american people is their wages going up, inflation going down. i think that stuff looks pretty good for the president as he addresses congress on tuesday. >> it's good to talk to. you thank you. still ahead, everybody, the inside story of how the spy balloon was shot down, including white could now be more beneficial to the u.s. than china. plus, making moves. several 2024 republican contenders showing no fear in the face of the former president. and then remember the call to stomp out of the invasive spotted lanternfly? >> my life goals are to lay

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leadership. yes, we are definitely thinking about it. having those conversations. at the end of the day you're gonna have a lot of republicans getting into that race. they're good people, they are good candidates. nikki haley, mike pompeo, governor desantis. a lot of folks are gonna get in. you're gonna have that discussion about where we are going, both as a party -- and make sure we are going there as a country. >> that was new hampshire governor, kristen, oona short time ago. the latest republican indicating a possible presidential run in 2024. nikki haley, the former ambassador to the u.n. and governor of south carolina expected to officially launch her campaign and it event at february 15th. this may kayleigh the first candidate to force to get into the race since trump announced his campaign last november. the former president also lashing out at haley, and potential candidate, ron desantis, as well. >> ron desantis got elected because of me. you remember, he had nothing. he was dead, he was leaving the race. he came over and he begged me, begged me for an endorsement. now in the case of nikki haley, she's gonna run publicly, you

saw this all over the place, -- correct. >> she said, all never run against president. he's a great president. he's been our greatest president. all of iran, on the iran. but nikki i from something that's a very tough thing to suffer from, she's overly ambitious. >> man, i just got to say, i that is not the most massage in this tech thing i've ever heard of don't know what is. we could go on and on about just that last statement. a woman being overly ambitious. with me now msnbc political analyst, matthew dowd, joining us. >> yes, but it is also incredibly -- an example of projection. him accusing someone else of being overly ambitious? that's quite funny. >> yeah, exactly! we do know from reports that nikki haley actually went to the former president and talk to him about her ambitions in her plans to run for president of the united states. do you think folks like haley,

and then, full stop, desantis, pose a threat to the former president? >> i don't think nikki haley dove. the problem for nikki haley's she was against trump before she was for trump and now she is against trump. it's much like a wind vein in the course of this. i don't think the republican primary voters will respond well to her. i saw a poll last week, in south carolina, where she was the governor. she is in fourth place in the primary behind donald trump and desantis. the one, right now, that i think poses a threat is ron desantis. but as you know having watched 2016 is rhonda santiff benefits and really is the most -- gives the most threat to donald trump if he is a singular entity against donald trump. if this field expands to three, four, five people -- donald trump's solid 30 to 35% of the vote will win him almost every primary.

desantis can win, but he needs to keep the field small. >> it's interesting that you bring that up. i want to bring up this full screen here, talking about how many candidates have been races overtime. back in 76 there were two. 80 there was 11. 88 a. and then 2016, remember, you remember that debate stage? it was packed tight with 17 candidates on that stage. two separate nights to have to fit everybody in. do you think, as you think about, kind, of the possible field here -- there is this behind the scenes conversation happening. listen, if we want to win this thing and have it not be the former president of the united states as the republican nominee, then we have to make sure the fewer people get in the better. and try to get behind desantis? >> i think that would be the goal. the problem for the republicans is, who is going to do that, right? they have the same idea when

they were recruiting candidates in 2022. they wanted a more moderate more establishment candidates. that got blown up by the republican party voters. the republican party voters really are in charge of this. it would only be if they somehow demonstrated through polling or crowds or something that they want only one candidate. the problem is, people like mitch mcconnell, kevin mccarthy, they have no control over the voters in this. the other things i will remind the viewers in this is while donald trump has some vulnerability, donald trump, today, is more popular today among republicans then he was when he won the nomination in 2016. substantially more popular among republicans. well they returned to him is a question. from a strength standpoint, he is actually stronger today than he was in 2016. >> you don't think the laws to -- during the midterm elections, which squarely put the blame on the former president. certainly, of course, with his

endorsements, as well. it won't have any effect on voters going into this presidential primary? >> i think it has some effect. a year ago, donald trump's approval rating among republicans was at 90%. today's around 80. he has had some drop of. when he won the nomination his favor ability rating with that 60. yes, it has caused some vulnerability. more vulnerability of the establishment, who would rather see someone else run has a better chance of winning. maybe some of the big money donors. donald trump won this race in 2016. he has continued to function without the establishment of those big money donors. he raises it from ten, 20, $30 at a time. again, i do think he has some vulnerability. i think the only works to beat him if it is a one-on-one or a three person race. if it gets bigger than that, he has a solid level of support. the way that the republican primary works, as you know, it is a winner take all.

you win 39% of the votes you get all of the delegates in south carolina, california, texas -- whatever it is. they have got to figure out a way they can get a candidate who stood up enough to get above donald trump's base of support. >> any dark horse, besides desantis, that you think could actually go up against donald trump? >> well, i think the problem for the candidates is you have to pick a lane. that is the problem with what nikki haley's. nikki haley has been in all lanes. in every lane. he had to pick a lane that basically says, i like donald trump's policies but i don't like, you know, him personally in this. the other question is, if i'm putting odds on someone that could beat him, it would be rhonda santas that could beat him. rhonda santas, to me, reminds me a lot of rick perry, scott walker. had all this great talk going into the race. their governor the successful states. they got into the bright lights and then they faded. in this process, the bright

lights come on a candidate who thinks would be strong fades quickly if they're not ready. >> we won't know until we know. matthew dowd, as always, so good to talk to. you thank you. >> thank you. >> up next, everybody, republicans won't let new information about the balloon incident during the trump administration stop them from going after president biden for this one. >> clearly this was an attempt by china to gather to free mission to defeat our sensitive nuclear defense and nuclear weapon sites. that, certainly, is an urgency that the administration does not wrecking with. >> nucala is a once-monthly add-on injection for severe eosinophilic asthma. nucala is not for sudden breathing problems. allergic reactions can occur. get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. infections that can cause shingles have occurred. don't stop steroids unless told by your doctor. tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection. may cause headache, injection site reactions, back pain, and fatigue. ask your asthma specialist about a nunormal with nucala. welcome back, everybody.

we are following some breaking news out of ukraine. we want to get right to nbc's ralph sanchez standing by for us in kyiv. raf, what are we learning? yasmin, in just the last couple of minutes and has been announced that the defense minister of ukraine, the man who have been most in charge of the war effort over the last year is being moved out of his

position. that is according to the majority leader of president zelenskyy's party in parliament. this would be the biggest shakeup of president zelenskyy's wartime government since the russian invasion began, just shy of a year ago. yasmin, we were actually at a press conference with the defense minister just a couple of hours ago. there were rumors circulating, at the time, that maybe he would be moved out of his job. there have been a number of corruption scandals in his ministry that have been revealed over the past week or so. and number of officials have been forced out of their jobs. the minister was asked at this press conference if he was going. he said, he serves at the pleasure of the president. i asked him about the upcoming anniversary of the war and what he fell vladimir putin wanted to try to achieve between now and february 24th. take a listen. >> do you believe vladimir putin has given his generals orders to capture certain areas

to complete certain objectives by february 24th? what are those objectives? >> the kremlin wants to reach strategic goal minimum to control administrative border of luhansk and donetsk dissed. that is his dream. second, to control landscape corridor along the south to make it wider, because they need to control the entrance to crimea. >> now, yasmin, the outgoing defense minister, you just saw there, alexei reznikov. he is a politician. he is a man who built up close relationship with u.s. defense secretary, lloyd austin, over the past year. we have seen them together many times. austin embracing him with a big bear hug. he is being replaced by general. the new defense minister will be the former head of military

intelligence of ukraine. a very powerful military officer. a man who is credited with accurately predicting that vladimir putin was going to invade on the 24th of february and a time when many people of the city, in kyiv, did not think that was going to actually happen. a man who has looked closely at the cia intelligence project to him and raised the alarm that the invasion was coming. this is a major shake up of presidents lewinsky's government. this may have an impact on the relationship between the u.s. and ukrainian governments. but what we are hearing is that, at this point, the relationship is institutional. it is much bigger than individuals and should continue as it has been. yasmin? >> yes, we will certainly have to watch and see how this all shakes out. ralph sanchez for us. thank. you are, back here at home. strong reaction, certainly, to the shootdown of the chinese bivalent continuing today. in addition to the ten statements issued by the

chinese government, there is no shortage of finger-pointing happening at home. republicans quick to criticize how biden handled the situation. he probably won't hear them bring up how similar chinese balloon incidents happen in the trump presidency at least three times. or how the president was careful to act in accordance with the pentagon before taking action. we want to bring in david ignatius now, foreign affairs columnist for the washington post. it seems as if we just lost david ignatius. we are going to try to get him back -- a, we have him back. david? do i have you? >> yes, you do. >> there you go! as always, great to talk to you, david. let me read a little bit from your op-ed from the washington post today. talking about this mission, yesterday, and how it all came together. specifically, the intelligence. as to how often the chinese have used these by balloons. the pentagon officials said saturday night that five chinese balloons have circumnavigated the globe. china has conducted 20 to 30 balloon missions, globally, over the past decade.

a balloon provides better granularity and it's images. it is possible the attempt was and that temp to gather data on u.s. -- which would be valuable in a future conflict. such data information would be limited in potential -- let's talk about the political fallout from all this. republicans essentially ignoring this intelligence. that three of these balloons were over u.s. territory over the trump administration. 20 to 30 over the past decade, really. instead, pointing the finger directly at president biden because he did not act quickly enough. what do you make of that? >> it is a political spectacle. it is hard for not to be. when you have a balloon floating over the united states for almost a week it is tailor made for criticism that the president is not acting decisively enough. you have to ask yourself, what if he had shot the balloon down, initially. there was some danger of people

being hit by the debris. there was danger to american citizens. what employee would have potentially lost the intelligence value of being able to capture the pod and electronics that chinese have broad a. part of this by mission -- that was much easier to do once it was over water. it's my understanding that that has been a priority for the pentagon over the last 24 hours. trying to get as much with electronics as they can if they do, this will end up being a net intelligence gain for the united states. that said, balloon -- and people have called is tailor made for political criticism. the fact that similar things happened under republicans does not mean that republicans won't say that this was a gross violation of our sovereignty. president biden allowed it and should've taken action more quickly. the only point is if he had taken action, the intelligence benefit we will probably get would've been lost.

>> can we talk about the timing of this? this is what we talked about, consistently, over the past 24 hours or so. the spot of this happening on the eve of this meeting that tony blinken was supposed to have -- subsequently canceling this. this was floating at 60,000 feet, right? you can see it with the naked eye from the ground a lot of folks are wondering, why? ray you think about china's intelligence capability. the technology that they have. how something like this could have happened. you mentioned in your op-ed that this very well may have been a. mistake you write the final possibility was a mistake in the chain of error. something that is possible in any military operations. sometimes the right-hand does not know what the left hand is doing. if in fact this is what happened what do you suspect is happening behind closed doors? with xi jinping and the diplomatic cleanup from all of this?

>> i think that this is a diplomatic mess for china. . it is impossible, at this point, to have reliable intelligence, from what i understand, for us to know exactly what was planned or what was accidental? i remind myself that during the cuban missile crisis of 1972 that we sent world war ii spy planes over cuba without president kennedy being fully informed of those missions. with the potential that there could've been a catastrophe that kennedy couldn't have planned for. was this done by the pla, the chinese military, on its own? was the chinese military seeking to disrupt the blinken some of that was planned? those are questions and i'm sure are intelligence analysts are intensely focused on. right now we just don't have those answers. >> we could talk another hour about this because we knew that there was fractures between the chinese government, especially as she jinping approaches his

third term, right? if that is true, who knows if we will ever find out, if that is what happened. that could certainly show a major fracture within choosing paying's new term. if, in fact, they were operating autonomously from communicating with the president. david, you are not to talk about this for a long time. and you have to go. it is great to talk to you about. it after the break, everybody, a behind the scenes look at how the u.s. coast guard -- and the perilous journey they face as they try to reach the border. ♪♪ allergies don't have to be scary. (screaming) defeat allergy headaches fast with new flonase headache and allergy relief! two pills relieve allergy headache pain? and the congestion that causes it! flonase headache and allergy relief. psst! psst! all good! ♪♪ we all have a purpose in life - a “why.”

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carrying these migrants. joining us now from miami. take us there with your experience and what you saw. >> yasmin, these planes that the coast guard use are essentially the eye in the sky 24 hours a day. one comes down, the other comes up. for weeks now we wanted to join the coast guard and see what is it has been like with this new surge of migrants arriving throughout the whole florida coastline down in the keys and some even arising in the miami area. something that had never been seen. these are historic numbers. within the first hour that they were in the air, we were able to spot a group of migrants that i got stuck on an island. these migrants how to get rescued by a coast guard bow and taken to a larger bone, called a cutter. we witnessed how members of the coast guard offer intelligence, they have videos, they have cameras that can see boats miles away. they take photos. this is all the information that is then given to the votes on the water -- when you look at a map there is

a large area between cuba and the united states in the entire caribbean. a lot of migrants which are also coming from haiti. this is a large area -- the boats to rely on these airplanes in order to be able to handle these vessels that are not only entering u.s. waters, illegally, but often have people that require humanitarian aid. we had a conversation with a copilot on what they've been funding this week. here is what they told me. >> a lot of these vessels are very -- homemade. in that way, they are very and see worthy. i've had vessels that have motors. to literally a paddleboard with suitcases on the side of it. with people just hope full to get to the united states. i think that is a really scary thing for us. because the votes are so often see were the. >> she talks about these boats we spotted what looks like a

catamaran looked to be made with would inspire foam. this is a vessel that we spotted minutes after the migrants were rescued. here is another boat that we spotted. it is impressive how a lot of these individuals leaving haiti and cuba will use whatever it is that they can't take on this treacherous journey, which can be deadly. like i mentioned, here is a bow i was talking about, by the way. made out of some type of styrofoam. and i mentioned, the coast guard not only patrolling the waters but carrying on that very important humanitarian mission. they showed us how they carried food, supplies, even radios that they could drop to some of these boats when the migrants on them have no other way to communicate. not only do they get lost at sea. often, they crash inter islands. it is a very dynamic and difficult mission that the coast guard is on, 24 hours a day. yasmin? >> quad, down for us. thank you quad very important for. us the republican obsession with guns was on full display this week as some gop members

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eradicate those pesky and invasive lanternflies form her new jersey community that they have now on earned her in a ceremony. bobby wilson was presented with the title of donor scientists from the university museum. her personal lanternfly collection is now available for public viewing. the united states department of agriculture also awarded her with a certificate of appreciation. it is all a happy ending after bobby originally had the cops called on her in october by a white neighbor who complained about a, quote, little black woman walking in spring stuff. joining us now is bobby wilson and her mother, monique. hi, you guys! >> hi. >> oh my gosh! i'm so excited to talk to you. first of all, talk about pesky! if only bobbi, you were with me when that was all going down in october. i swear i was stomping on the things left and right. i thought isn't there a solution for this? because you have one.

al now honoring you. i wanna remind folks what yale said about you. it is so freaking cool. it's ezekiel doesn't normally do anything like this. this is something unique to bobbi. we wanted to show her bravery and how inspiring she is. we want to make sure she continues to feel honored and loved by the yale community. bobbi, how did you feel when you found out that you wanted on a like this? >> i don't think it was real if i. i was so excited. >> you are excited? >> what about you, mom? >> i was speechless! i automatically knew what it man. it just reconfirmed, for me, that bobbi really is a scientist. i was excited, like bobbi said, and proud. >> bobbi, why did you want to stomp out these lanternflies? what got me motivated, initially, to try to find a solution? >> well, i owe a cease to find them on my shoulder or my shoes.

i didn't really, like, like them. i decided to, like, look around and find them on the floor or the trees. >> and, monique, did you think, okay? let's do this. let's see if this works. let's figure it out. were you supportive of her scientific endeavors? >> i had no choice because i've been living with this for quite a few years. bobbi it's quite the scientist around the house. for me, it was less about the solution and at that chemicals going on. it was more about, when are we going to fit this-ing with everything else? i always support we bobbi, we support her. we want to make sure that she is free to dream and wonder and be curious as a nine-year-old. >> i love that. i feel like i don't allow my kids to do this enough. i probably should now because i usually tell them to stop doing it. i need to encourage them to make more possessions. it is so messy sometimes, we

bobbi. it's just so messy! when did you realize it was actually working that your potion you put together could actually help get rid of these things? >> i was spraying it. when i was walking home, i got through the cemetery. i was spraying it. i see them popping off. i look down my block and i saw two trees. i started to spray them and they started to jump off. i kind of knew. >> so, bobbi, what is your next scientific experiment? what is your next potion you will put together? how are you going to save the world, bobbi? >> well, i have this thing at school where we are -- we have not seen them yet because of -- maybe i'm going to start a group that kids can join and they can spray all the lanternflies on the trees and

on shoes as well. >> maybe you should come up with a label to put on this potion that says bobbi's potion so everybody knows what you are spraying is made by you, right? >> yeah! >> monika, did you ask for early admission to yell, just wondering? she did get honored by yell, i'm assuming that is a first step? >> you know, a mommy always has to ask that. i'm like, okay, what do we do with the later? yale has been very supportive. i have not had to ask. i believe they have been in conversations to make sure somebody gets sent to yale. >> yeah, i think someone has a very big future. i can see it now. bobbi wilson, we will be following you for a long time. you will take over the world, one lanternfly at a time. thank you, monique. you are a great mama. thank you for joining her and bringing her to us. everybody, shifting gears to breaking news we've been following, just moments ago we are getting our first look at what could be possible debris

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back snl took on the story of the week with the chinese air balloon -- so exciting. i love her to death. best friend at work, msnbc's -- >> i'm actually surprised you are still floating. experts were saying you are the size of three buses? >> okay, ouch. i'm a balloon. that's my body. i would you like it if somebody measured your within buses? i'm sorry i am not camera ready. who is this? no. get away. go, go!

i hate the ocean. i really am more of an air guy. >> i'm sorry. people were worried they were being spied on. >> by? me a balloon? everybody is being surveilled constantly but it's always shoot the balloon and never unplug alexa. if you care so much about your data, why do y'all keep your big passwords in the notes up? >> that wraps it up for me everybody. i'm yasmin perceive. and i will be back in the chair unaccepted a and sunday at 2 pm eastern. symone starts right now. >> greetings, everyone. you are watching symone. a showdown today over that spy balloon shot down by the united states. china says it was an overreaction and it now reserves the right to respond further and republican lawmakers are blasting president biden for how he handled, this but is it anti-criticism? we will break down what happened and what is next with congressman -- of the house intelligence