tv Chris Jansing Reports MSNBC February 6, 2023 10:00am-11:00am PST
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♪ ♪ good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. as president biden gears up for one of the biggest speeches of his political career, can he use tomorrow night's state of the union address to address growing unease among his fellow democrats and drum out growing criticism from republicans over his handling of that chinese spy balloon? brand new polls show president biden isn't the only one facing discontent within his own party. donald trump is, too. the big difference, the dozen or so republicans who appear to be lining up to take trump on. will the bae hive make out better than the swiftys did? with sales about to get under way, the pressure is on ticketmaster to make sure it doesn't crash like it did in november. will today's test impact calls from washington to break up the
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country. we have a lot to get to. we start with the enormous political stakes in tomorrow night's state of the union address, a speech that will be watched by millions who he wants to convince that the state of the union is strong, but that's now all the more challenging because of the unexpected chinese spy balloon controversy and two new polls showing that even members of his own party don't want him to run for re-election. from the associated press, just 37% of democrats want biden to seek a second term, down 15 points from last fall. "the washington post"/abc poll shows 30% would feel good about the president being re-elected. those polls came out before the news about the chinese spy balloon. >> it's one more failure of several of this administration. go back to the afghanistan withdrawal debacle. the president pleading with iran and venezuela to supply oil to the united states. here is one more example of a
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failure projecting weakness of the united states of america. >> this became a situation of argument, what in the world is this administration doing? why are they not looking out for america number one? >> they can message to taiwan, our allies and others that on top of afghanistan america is a declining power and they can't even stop one of our most basic surveillance tools, a balloon. that they're either incapable or lack the political will to take tough action. >> i want to bring in nbc white house correspondent mike memoli and former rnc chairman michael steele, also an msnbc political analyst. mike, this speech was already going to be tough. now you throw in this issue with china and we heard republicans are taking the opportunity to go after biden. do we have any idea if the president will respond to that criticism in the speech, or is he just going to ignore it?
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>> reporter: chris, what makes this whole conversation so interesting is in all the years i've been covering president biden dating back to his time as vice president, but especially over these last five years, he talks about the relationship with china at almost every turn, especially as he has framed his entire sort of foreign policy based on this idea that the 21st century is about competition between the united states and other democracy and autocracies like china. just on friday night when i was covering his speech to the dnc, he talked about the fact that china has always been sort of an economic rival of ours, that they have been making the kind of investments in their infrastructure for decades that has left us to fall behind. economic competition has always been at the heart of sort of the economic case biden has been making for his policies. now it will be interesting to see how much his state of the union address expands that idea to them as a military threat. we have also seen the president talk about the possibility of the u.s. coming to the assistance of taiwan, for instance and raising some
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questions about our foreign policy there. you can understand why this is at the heart of the last-minute revisions and rewrites that are happening as the president is about to come back to washington. chris, we know at its heart, this speech is primarily one that will be focused on the economy. you look at the poll numbers showing not just questions about even among democrats his candidacy in 2024, also these 62% of voters nationwide who say they don't think the president has accomplished very much. that's really a message that the president wants to get across in his speech tomorrow as we've seen him over the last few days as well. talking about all those legislative wins, but more importantly, from the perspective of the white house, offering tangible ways those pieces of legislation he's signed will translate into tangible benefits for the average american. >> michael steele, since mike brought up the poll -- memoli and steele here.
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sounds like a podcast. let me look at more of the abc poll which found on the question of whether biden has accomplished anything during his presidency, 62% not very much or little to nothing. on the question of whether he's brought good jobs to the country, 60% say he has not despite the fact that he's over seen the fastest pace of job growth in u.s. history. to the point of tomorrow's speech, and everybody does last-minute revisions and rewrites, is it a messaging problem for joe biden and the white house, or is this general a general malaise in the country, it will take a lot more than this to get him started in the other direction? >> to pick up from how we began this conversation with the sounds from fox news, if america is a failing country, that file your began under the trump administration when he was kicking boots with putin. so this idea of the narrative is important. it is very important. i think it really goes to how
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the failure of this administration has been in the out right inability to tell people what they've done. i'm sorry. you've got to tell your story. you spend the first 18 months on something that people aren't focused on while all these things are swirling about you, from afghanistan to covid to the economy and you're talking about filibusters and doing this fandango with sinema and others. the reality is this administration tomorrow has to tell its story. >> let me stop you right there, if i can, michael. when you say this administration, is it the folks that they'll put out, or does the president have to address it in the state of the union speech? if so, how? >> it's both. it's not a one-off. you can't just put it all on one person and say, now go sell this in an hour speech. you've got to reenforce that
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messaging with the cabinet officials, the department heads, the messages coming out of the various agencies of the federal government, number one. yes, the overarching theme center is the president. he's the one that's going to tell the story. he's the one that's going to say this is where we were, and this is where we are, and this is where we will be tomorrow. it really is taking the reagan-esque message and updating it and asking the question, are you better off today than you were four years ago? there are 517,000 americans who didn't have a job in january who now do. tell that story. the messaging piece for me has been one of the most embarrassing parts of what this administration has failed to do given the history of the legislative accomplishments, beatback and the beatdown in some cases the maga
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anti-american narrative, and promoting the economy and jobs as well as national security in a way that you don't have 62% of the american people think that he had nothing to do or no role or, in fact, has been harmful to job creation in the country or that afghanistan was the most successful thing he did as a president. >> democratic donors apparently don't have concerns about biden's re-election bid. listen to what we heard at the dnc meeting on friday. >> four more years! four more years! >> are they just not worried about biden? do they think this is going to go away or get better, or slt just a reflection that there are no alternatives? >> thank you. who is the go-to?
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who is on your bench. which governor, which senator is going to challenge an incumbent president of the united states for the job? name that democrat. that's not where the donors will be. i'll tell you today, that's not where the rank and file will be. in many respects these polls are really kind of silly because they're not reflective of the actual political reality for both parties. the political reality for democrats is you don't have another choice. the political reality for republicans is you don't really have another choice either. when you lose a third -- when you go with someone else, what are you going to do with a third of the base or more of the base that says i don't want that person? how are you going to win those close parts of the country. these are the realities these parties have to face. >> don't go anywhere. mike memoli, thank you. michael steele you'll be around
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for the new polling on donald trump. we'll also have a lot more on the spy balloon and the search for pieces from that. i do want to get folks up to date on the devastating news out of turkey and syria where more than 2,600 people are dead after massive back-to-back earthquakes. look at this building, one of just thousands that literally came crashing to the ground. the initial earthquake measured 7.8, the same strength as the one that leveled san francisco in 1906. for context, that was one of the worst ever in the continental u.s. this local tv reporter was live on the air when the aftershock hit. it was bigger than most earthquakes. it measured 7.5. the injured include small children. we saw them being pulled out of rubble as the desperate search and rescue efforts are going on right now over a huge expanse that's covering hundreds of miles. nbc's molly hunter is following
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all of this from london. what are you hearing? what's the latest, molly? >> chris, you said the key words, search and rescue. we're not 24 hours yet. we're still in the first few crucial hours. absolutely the teams on the ground are still looking for survivors. we heard from turkish authorities that almost 10,000 search and rescuers, first responders are on the ground. they're getting offers of help from the eu, the u.k. and the u.s. we're talking boots on the ground, rescue dogs, transport aircrafts, additional people, chris, to help look and search through the rubble. as you talked about, that was one building we saw caught on cctv that collapsed. turkish authorities are saying 3,000 buildings have collapsed, more than 2,500 people have been killed, thousands more injured, and many more buildings that turkish authorities haven't been able to reach, rural areas out
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side of cities. freezing temperatures, expecting serious snowfall tonight. turkey hosts 3.6 million syrian refugees, more than anywhere else in the world. where will these people go? there's no answer to that question. these are people living in makeshift tents. the infrastructure on that side of the border is already incredibly fragile. these are people who lost everything in the war, damaged their houses and have nowhere to go. the spokesperson for the international rescue committee put it extremely well, dire circumstances. he said it is an emergency within an emergency. we did just hear from the white house the u.s. is sending support. i'll read part of the statement, chris. it says our teams are deplaying quickly to begin to support turkish search and rescue efforts and address the needs of those injured and displaced. u.s. humanitarian partners are also responding to the destruction inside syria. we did hear from antonio
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guterres, the u.n. secretary-general who says the u.n. is mobilizing their emergency response. he does caution everyone is extremely overstretched right now. >> molly hunter, thank you. we appreciate it. within the next hour, a man and a woman who the fbi view as racially or ethnically motivated ex-tremists will appear before a judge in a maryland federal court. the two are charged with conspireing to attack a local power grid in the baltimore area. doj says the two took steps to shoot multiple electrical power stations and had plans to, quote, completely destroy this whole city. it follows a surge in attacks on power stations across the country, leaving concerns about the security of the u.s. power grid. influential republicans take a major step away from donald trump. what it means for his 2024 challengers next. embattled freshman congressman george santos facing
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not a single republican has been able to look at one of these mail ballots. they could be from mars as far as we're concerned. ar as we're concerned the message today from voters to the republican party, it's time to move on from donald trump. "the washington post"/abc news poll shows nearly half of republicans and republican-leaning independents want someone other than trump as the nominee. and as a growing number of trump rivals call for new leadership, one of the most influential an deep pocketed political networks in republican politics has vowed to support anyone other than trump in 2024. let's talk about it. nbc's vaughn hillyard is with me. michael steele is back. vaughn, we've got this new reporting from the big conservative network, the koch
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brothers. they're saying no more donald trump. >> eight years ago we went through this. the republicans largely opposed to donald trump really took the la say fair approach. we're about one year out from the iowa caucus, south carolina caucus. americans for prosperity spent more than $100 million for republican causes. their ceo coming out with a memo that was very detailed that the group is going to become involved in republican primaries and earlier, and that will include the presidential primary. look at part of the memo in which the ceo writes, quote, to write a new chapter for our country, we need to turn the page on the past. the best thing for the country would be to have a president in 2025 who represents a new chapter. the american people have shown they're ready to move on, and so americans for prosperity will help them do that. another part was very explicit. here is the hard truth as i see it, she writes. the republican party is nominating bad candidates who
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are advocating for things that go against core american principles and the american people are rejecting them. there's also the club for growth, which there's questions about another major conservative backer here. will they become involved in this presidential primary process? we saw in 2015, 2016 republican candidates protest donald trump. but when it comes to the money, what sort of influence can they have on pushing republican voters away from donald trump. >> we're back, michael steele talking about money. how significant is this? i know you were saying before, still got 30% of the party, right, that loves donald trump. his own personal fund-raising numbers are down. arguably you haven't had a strong alternative emerge yet. is there a path and what does the money tell us? >> there's always a path. apparently that number is not 30s, like 44%. that's still a significant amount of people. look, i applaud the koch organization here, americans for
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prosperity, and the idea of galvanizing not just the donor class. i think a lot of people can get lost in that. their influence really weaves into policy and also is very much grassroots oriented. this, to vaughn's great reporting, is a huge turnaround from where we saw the sort of business-minded members of the party in 2016 and 2020. now the test becomes how do you navigate the space, chris? the reality of it is you can't allow three, four, five candidates, you can't have club for growth supporting one person and this group supporting another. now you've tie fur kated the money. trump will raise his money. i won't say trump is having a problem raising money. when the man wants to engage his voters and donors, he will raise his money. that's not going to be a concern
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for him because they know who they're giving to. i think the next test is going to be how do they set up an individual to be the one that goes man o amano against trump. they've got the align behind one and make this a singular head-to-head race. otherwise, every day is a win for trump. >> so let's talk about what that person would need and who they might be. it's not like people haven't come and surprised before. arguably jimmy carter was a surprise. bill clinton, who went through a lot of same problems in his campaign that killed other people, frankly. he became president twice. barack obama. who could beat hillary clinton? nobody could beat hillary clinton, right? maybe there is somebody out
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there. what is it that maybe the large number of people who might consider somebody other than donald trump are looking for? >> well, i think what they're -- the first thing you've got to look for is who can take him on. in each of the cases you just detailed the posing figure, the one that those individuals were going up, obama against hillary, wasn't a donald trump. it wasn't -- hillary is a traditional political actor. you're going up against an asymmetrical player, so you've got to have someone who thinks strategically and asymmetrically who can withstand and deliver. who can withstand the incoming but also deliver their own, who doesn't have a glass jaw, who doesn't break and fall, who will not be so concerned about where the base goes, but instead is prepared to lead the base away from trump and on to winning the presidency, the house and the senate in '24.
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that's the test for me as a party chairman. i'm looking to say who is that individual? the first test is can you stand up and throw a punch? can you stand up and take him down to size and say, you know what? we've done crazy for a long time here. it's time we grow up as a party. it's time we refocus. it's time we connect with the american people in a way we haven't in the last six years. we're losing voters, not gaining voters. so that person -- i don't know who is going to do that. vaughn? >> the issue, also, is that a lot of people owe donald trump. j.d. vance, the latest endorsement over the weekend after he credited donald trump forgiving him a win in ohio. >> do we think a large swath of the republican party is going to take j.d. vance's advice? >> no. but they reflect j.d. vance, they reflect where he is.
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j.d., it's knost lost on him how he got where he is. that base knows that. that's what i'm saying. this is why this is not an easy road to hoe because trump's hold is deeper and wider than a lot of people think it is. wait until this man fully engaged in this race. if he does, then that's the test, and the j.d. vances are signaling we get where this is potentially going to end up. also, chris, it's why you heard sununu and others say, you know, trump won't be the nominee, i'll support the nominee and it won't be trump. well, that's not clarifying enough. >> okay. we are going to continue this conversation. i love the energy. michael steele, vaughn hillyard, thank you, guys. appreciate it. by the way, another new accusation against freshman congressman george santos. this time it comes in the form of a letter to the house ethics
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committee. derek myers accuses santos of groping him when he worked for the office as a volunteer. nbc news has not independently corroborated the allegations. a spokesperson confirms to nbc news that the letter was received while declining to comment further. we have requested comment from santos but have not heard back. nbc's ryan nobles joining us from capitol hill. what more can you tell us about these allegations against santos and the man making the acquisition? >> reporter:t' an individual named derek myers who described himself aos, both as a member o campaign and then when he worked up here on capitol hill and said at one point he believed he was in the process of getting an actual paying job with santos in his congressional office before santos pulled the offer. derek myers first came to the news because there was a story that was out earlier this week from another outlet where he
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secretly recorded conversations he had with santos inside his congressional office, and then a couple days later he put out this accusation that santos apparently attempted to grope him while they were inside that congressional office. now, myers is someone who in the past has been accused of covertly recording things when he ran an independent newspaper in ohio. he ran with audio of a courtroom hearing that was not allowed to be recorded. he was actually charged with wiretapping. there were journalistic organizations that came out in his defense at that time. at this point, chris, it seems this is kind of a he-said, he-said incident. there's not a lot of evidence to corroborate the allegations. all we know is the letter was sent to the house ethics committee and they received it. whether or not it turns into a full blown investigation, we'll have to wait and see. it's another example of how ever where george santos goes, it appears controversy follows him
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as he continues to try to find a way to be an active member of congress. >> ryan nobles, thank you. add to the list of disapproved claims by santos. he said he was a producer in the 2011 musical "spider-man." the lead producer on the show said that's not true. santos never appeared on any list of producers. a spokesperson for spiter man put out this statement. of all the tribulations the producers of spiter man: turn off the dark had to endure, we are very pleased, proud and relieved to report working with george santos was not one of them. right now divers in the water. what the u.s. hopes to learn from the debris of that chinese spy balloon and china's promise of retaliation. crews working to stabilize derailed train cars in ohio
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right now divers are searching in the waters off the coast of south carolina for debris from the shot-down suspected chinese spy balloon. what you're seeing there is the u.s. navy recovering what may be remnants of that balloon in myrtle beach. the city is urge urging people there not to touch or remove debris since it is part of a federal investigation. new this morning, china is threatening repercussions after what they're calling an indiscriminate use of force by the u.s. i want to bring in nbc's george solis on the ground in south carolina, also msnbc international affairs analyst and former ambassador to russia michael mcfaul. it's good to have both of you here. george, set the scene for us. how extensive is the search, and what do we know about what they found so far? >> reporter: good afternoon, chris. we know navy divers and vessels
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are out there in the water continuing to search about a seven-mile stretch of ocean where it's believed a lot of this balloon debris fell. even on a bright and sunny day today it would be difficult to spot the vessels with the naked eye. we've seen people with binoculars on the beach trying to get a glimpse you managed the video that appears to show some of that balloon debris recovery here in myrtle beach. supposedly some of that debris will be spread among various intelligence agencies for further forensic analysis. we do know according to the pentagon, most of it fell in about 42 feet of water. that's pretty shallow. the timeline forgetting a lot of this debris is supposed to move fairly quickly. although there has been no timeline for when they think think they'll get all this done. you mentioned the importance of some of the debris washing up onshore. we know the department of defense is working with local authorities here as well as the fbi to make sure people, including the tourists, do not
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take any of that debris. they say, if you spot it, call it in, but do nothing beyond that. it may be tempting for people to want to take this as a souvenir. that's a big no-no. this is part of a federation investigation. it's interesting. a lot of people were out here in the rain trying to catch a glimpse of the recovery efforts. it will be interesting to see, especially with the current being what it is today, how much of this debris, if any, washes up. it's not just the balloon debris or any equipment on board that balloon vessel that they are so keen on collecting to see what they can gather as far as the intelligence goes. >> ambassador, that's the heart of it, right? what might have been on the balloon in terms of equipment. what are they attempting to find and what can they tell snus. >> first of all, chris, i'm from montana.
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there are there was a lot of talk that we should shoot this down in montana. 'glad he did not do that and the debris wasn't falling down on my friends and family. this was the right decision to shoot it down where he did. it gives a greater potential to collect intelligence in the way they're doing now. had they done it over land, it would have been much harder to do. they want to learn what this balloon was made for, and it will be, i suspect, extremely useful for our intelligence agencies, to have a good look at that material that they're now gathering out of the ocean. >> some biden administration officials talked to politico. this is the quote that politico put in the article today. the department of defense tracks, quotes, hundreds of these balloons every day, but they are not typically deemed a threat. we know there have been previous balloons they were concerned about over places like texas and florida. we also know china is generally
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developing some of the world's most sophisticated cyber espionage technologies. nevertheless, is the importance of this in the big picture being overstated, do you think? >> yes and no. every country that has the ability to spy spies. let's just be honest. everybody does it. we do it. we've had incidents in the past obviously, in the first months of the bush administration with the chinese. what's striking and strange about this so far is it was such an audacious violation of our sovereignty in a way that they seem that they wanted us to see it. that's what we don't know. was it a mistake? did it go off course? or were they testing us to see what we would do? those are the kinds of answers that the biden administration rightfully is asking their chinese counterparts. we need to keep asking the biden administration.
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what alarms me is the reaction, the rhetorical reaction that you're seeing out of beijing. you can't violate our sovereignty and not expect us to respond. now the rhetoric that they're using to say that we've done something escalatory, that's dangerous, that's wrong, and i hope that's just for show and we'll get back down to engaging and talking to them about serious matters. >> we also know there's been a lot of criticism on the republican side who thought, unlike you, this should have been shot down and reported much sooner. having said that, there is a conversation that's on going about whether this was the right time for the secretary of state to cancel a planned diplomatic trip. that, in fact, what it actually does is focus the need for such diplomacy. where do you stand on that, ambassador? >> well, it's no big deal to cancel a trip and wait for a better moment to engage with his chinese counterparts. i think it was the right decision to cancel now.
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if he went now, all he would be talking about is balloons. that said, i want the secretary of state, secretary blinken or whatever actor to fly to beijing often. talking to your interlocutors, including competitors, is not some gift you're giving them. it's a way to understand their motivations in the world, understand what they want to do. you don't have to agree with it. but i don't like when we're guessing about what they're doing. so any interaction with xi jinping and secretary blinken's counterparts i think is good for us for understanding what they're motivated to do. you can agree to disagree, but you should always be talking. >> ambassador michael mcfaul and george solis on location in south carolina, thank you both. a american volunteer and marine corps veteran has been killed while working as a combat
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medic in ukraine. while helping to evacuate others, he was killed trying toal shelter another. >> they always talk about how many people died. i think that's what kept us here in the beginning. we wanted that number to be a little bit less. >> reid's wife, alex potter, who he married just five days before war broke out in ukraine paid tribute to her selfless husband saying everything he did was always for the benefit of others. reid was just 33 years old. coming up, power problems. thousands still without electricity after that historic ice storm crippled parts of central texas. the train that derailed in ohio on the verge of a potential catastrophic explosion. the new plan announced moments ago to get the dangerous chemicals out of the train. that's next. t of the train
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a dramatic and dangerous situation is unfolding in northeastern ohio where officials are warning of a, quote, potentially catastrophic explosion. after ten train cars full of hazardous material derailed and caught fire, authorities are warning everyone in the area to evacuate. ron, governor dewine says a few of these trains are of concern. what else did he have to say? what's the plan? >> reporter: there are five cars in the train of this 100-cars long that contain a chemical called bio chloride. we're going back some 72 hours when the train derailed friday night, about 50 of the 100 cars. the concern is focused on about five cars that contain this
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on pre-registration numbers in certain big cities. this is ticket master's first major test since it crashed during a taylor swift concert ticket sale last year. i want to bring in nbc capitol hill correspondent ally -- ali vitali. ticket master got called into congress over cries of unfair monopoly. >> i think in the words of taylor swift, i think the question is if we've seen this film before, because when we did, many people did not like the ending and so now, ticket master is saying that in this latest return to a massive tour ticket sale, they're going to have a smoother process for fans. they've got several groups of pre-sale here for the beyonce tour. they're going to make sure their system can actually withstand all of the thousands of people who are going to be rushing to buy these tickets. and they're also going to be,
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again, under scrutiny. as you said, today, the senate judiciary committee tweeted something from ticket master, effectively just saying we'll be watching because we know that they did a hearing on this, just last month. the word of the day there, you're right, was monopoly. there is a push right now coming from capitol hill on the general idea of antitrust and antimonopoly. that legislation didn't go anywhere last congress, but many of the key agitators for those reforms are still very central in the senate. people like senator amy klobuchar, senator mike lee, those are the two people who sponsored the hearing last month. you can bet there's a snafu and same kinds of problems with the beyonce sale, and causes the same outcry, another chance to return to if reform is necessary, again, ticket master would have to prove that it doesn't have a monopoly here. and we saw the way that everyone in the hearing last month was clear. they think that they do. >> bipartisanship at its finest,
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ali vitali, thank you so much. beyonce arrived in time to become the most awarded grammy artist in history. record setting trophy number 32 coming for her album "renaissance." >> i'm trying not to be too emotional, and i'm trying to just receive this night. >> viola davis won a grammy for an audio book which meant egot status, she's got an emmy, grammy, oscar, and tony. very rare. harry styles took home album of the year and kicked off a style controversy. let's just say the red carpet looks this year were particularly eclectic. we didn't even get the whole christmas tree tinsel look there. that's going to do it for us this hour. get a jump on tomorrow's state
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