good day. i'm chris jansing live in washington, d.c. where hours from now president biden has a rare opportunity for a reset. how does he convince millions of pessimistic americans they should be optimistic about the future of the country and how does he convince them progress

is being made when they aren't feeling or seeing it? one thing that could help, the billions set to be spent on fixing our nation's infrastructure. transportation secretary pete buttigieg will join me live later in the hour to explain when people might actually see those changes in their own communities. and the latest on the staggering scope of destruction after the earthquakes that flattened parts of turkey and syria. moments ago, the death toll was raised to 6,376. with temperatures dropping and search and rescue efforts stretched to the limit, i'll talk to one expert who thinks the death toll could grow significantly. but we start with arguably the biggest speech of joe biden's political life now just a few hours away. a huge opportunity to frame his vision and the agenda for the next two years even beyond in front of what is likely to be the biggest tv audience he'll see all year. the task is a big one, persuade a divided congress and country to embrace unity, and convince a pessimistic public that things

have and will continue to get better. >> i want to talk to the american people and let them know the state of affairs, what is going on, why i'm looking forward to working on from this point on, what we have done, and to have a conversation with the american people. >> nbc's monica alba joins me from the white house. matthew dowd, and jeff nussbaum and eugene robinson, columnist at "the washington post" and msnbc political analyst. of all the people who could have heard the conversation we were having before the show started, huge audience, huge opportunity, given the mood of the country, how does he capitalize on it on this opportunity? >> well, nothing he can do to instantly change the mood of the country. you know, you play the hand that you're dealt. and so, yes, the people in the country, the poll recently that say people aren't giving him

credit for the economy, and things they decent think things are getting better, but things are where they are and so i think he, you know, i'm actually not one of those people, having seen a lot of the state of the union addresses, and rolled my eyes various times, not so much at the speech, but the reaction. i'm not that cynical about them. it is good the president once a year speaks to congress and the american people and says here's where i think we are, here's where i think we need to go and it is a ritual that at least some people will pay attention to, and we'll learn something from it. >> so, matthew to gene's point, you look at the major themes, economic accomplishments, promoting unity, foreign policy, polls show that the president is getting negative marks on all of those areas. how does he convince people they have got it wrong without coming off like he's tone deaf or out of touch? >> well, first, i recommend jeff's book, i read it last

year, undelivered, awesome book, especially moments in history when speeches weren't given, so great book that you wrote. >> thank you. >> i think we -- sometimes we overcalculate these speeches in the midst of this. i don't think he's going to be able to convince the american public they're wrong and that will be the first step not to do is tell the american public they're wrong to believe what they already believe in this. i've seen a lot of criticism of the president in the course of this as i quote he's got a communications problem in this. part of the problem he has is us in the news media who has a constant focus on the negative and that's what's been delivered to the public more often than not. and so the media likes to say it is a communications problem without taking responsibility for what is communicated in the midst of that. i think the president's biggest vulnerability, most approximate vulnerability right now, if he's going to run for re-election, is

the lack of enthusiasm of democrats for his candidacy. and it is mainly the people who say he's too old or he's done or he's -- so i think this is more than anything is a speech and it is going to be the -- the audience is going to be by and large most democrats as all the speeches have become mostly in the years, momentarily democratic audience, mostly friendly audience. he has to through tone, style and words convince the democrats that he is ready to lead and if he's going to announce re-election, that he is ready to be their nominee. i think that is his most current, most proximate vulnerability. >> energy in focus? how would you categorize what he has to do to those who think he's too old, who has not delivered, to say he's the guy to do it? >> a lot of it, as jeff knows, a lot of this is body language, tone, voice intonation, all of those things are very important

in this. and how he comes across. i have to say, every time biden speaks, i think he answers those questions, so just giving up and giving a speech. i wouldn't go through a mathematic exercise of every single number that is a great number in this. i don't think that's what makes changes people's hearts on his candidacy. it is seeing who he is, and that he's ready -- the funny thing about this speech is there is not a lot he can accomplish legislatively because the makeup of congress today and the crazy house of representatives that we have on the gop side, so i think what is probably weighed into is a contrast to what is going on among the republican caucus, much more than here is a laundry list of things i want to get done. >> so, monica, one of the challenges is, tonight, how to draw a contrast with republicans and still make it clear, he's willing to work with them. i understand we just got some new details on how they're thinking about approaching that, what have we learned? >> exactly, chris. this four pillar unity agenda,

something that the president actually started to lay out in the state of the union address last year, and these are four areas in which the white house really believes bipartisan progress can be made. we're talking about ending cancer, supporting veterans, specifically when it comes to their healthcare, tackling the mental health crisis, and then also battling the opioid epidemic. they talked about areas of progress they have been able to make. you talk about the p.a.c.t. act and the veterans exposed to the toxic burn pits, getting them the healthcare they need, when you look at the fact that congress has temporarily rescheduled fentanyl and that they're hoping that that is something that can be permanent, when you look at some of the progress when it comes to the safer communities act as well. they're saying there is more work that can be done and they are hopeful that can happen with the support of democrats and republicans. so you're going to hear this president reiterate a lot of themes that he used to talk about when he was candidate joe biden, this whole idea of

restoring the soul of the nation and talking about unity at a time when many people would say to the president how can you say this country is any closer to being united than when you were elected, given all of the divisive rhetoric we have seen over the last couple of years and given this very gridlocked washington and congress right now. this is a president who is going to try to maybe the case that there are things that both parties can work together on successfully, that they have in the last two e he's going to unveil this new line about finishing the job. he's going to say when it comes to the economy and all the major headlines and the bigger stories that sometimes dominate our every day, and other areas that affect so many millions of americans, that's an area where there is so much more left to do, the president is going to say tonight, and that he would like the help and he would like to reach across the aisle and he's going to say because we have done it already, there is no reason we can't do it again, chris. >> is there an intrinsic risk, eugene robinson, if you say

finish the job, finish the job and there are a lot of areas where he can talk about that, police reform, gun reform, economy. all the key issues that people talk about, is it intrinsic in that why we haven't gotten the job done yet. >> not like the new frontier or something like that, finish the job does imply the job is still half done or partly done. so, i understand what they're driving at. i'm not sure that with my editors, i'm not sure i wouldn't have asked for maybe a redo of the headline, but we'll see. probably, you know, sort of tested it or focus group did or something, some sense that finish the job is going to -- >> the thing, jeff that this president really does believe is that he has a good story to tell. he's proud of what he has accomplished. how does he get that across knowing his strengths and his weaknesses as an orator,

probably as we're speaking right now he's probably working on it. how does he go about it and what are his strengths and weaknesss? >> it is one of the questions he'll ask in speech prep, if i don't love a draft, i don't see the story we're telling here. what story are we telling? one thing he constantly does is reminds the people around him that the story we are telling has to resonate and feel real for people. to your earlier comment, you're not going to get people to change the way they feel. you're not going to sort of tell them it is sunny when it is cloudy. however, what he does get a chance to do is unpack what he's accomplished already, there has been this ambitious legislative agenda already passed and not a lot of people know what's in it, not a lot of democrats know what's in it. i'll answer the question with a bidenism, which he always quotes his father saying, i don't expect the government to solve my problems, i expect the government to understand my problems. part of the job in telling the story is the president

confidently showing he understands people's problems and that the actions he has taken and that the actions he is about to take will help in real tangible ways in their lives. >> so what is happening behind the scenes right now. what is he doing right now? what are his aides doing right now? >> i recently emailed the team and said i hope it is all buttoned up and you're resting. i fear that's not the case. you know a speech is pretty much complete in bidenland when the same word has been switched back and forth four or five times. you know we're down to this level where we're needling over small things. the president has rehearsed. he may be another rehearsal today. but i think now it is really recognizing at risk of undercutting what i've done for a living that it is no longer exactly what you say, it is how you make people feel and how you make people feel really depends on the performance. >> do you think he's lost a little of that. i think in the campaign that

people felt he was somebody who understood their problems. and who wanted to make life better for them. and i'm not sure now, i feel like when i go out into all across america and talk to people, they feel a disconnect. what happened? >> i think one of the things that happens is the presidency necessarily separates you from people. it puts you in a bubble, puts up a wall and president biden has often described himself, he makes this gesture on the fingertip politician, i need to feel what is going on out there. i think you've seen that recently as he's gone to states. as he's made unscheduled stops, as he's worked to interact with folks. he's getting that feel and the more he gets that feel, the more powerful he is. because one of the things is president biden has been consistently underestimated throughout his career. and as matthew said earlier, he does have a really amazing way of rising to the occasion and he'll do so again. >> it would not be surprising if republicans tried to throw him off his game. let me remind you of a little something from last year's state

of the union 2022. >> we need to secure our border and fix the immigration system. [ applause ] as you might guess, i think we can do both. >> does he have a line ready this year? do you just have to hope it comes to him, if it happens, we don't know if it is going to happen, might not. >> i don't know if he has a line ready. i think this has become increasingly the case. in this amazingly controlled and exalted environment, you can't control everything. and you can't control what he's going to hear from the crowd, so i think he's at least going to be aware that could happen. >> okay. so one thing you don't want to happen on the day of the state of the union is for another story to come. but apparently and i want to go back to monica alba, just hours away from the state of the union sources are telling us there may be a shake-up in the cabinet. marty walsh might be leaving. give us the details. >> yeah, our own mike memoli has

just confirmed this, chris, according to a source familiar with this decision that the secretary of labor marty walsh, somebody who has been a part of the cabinet from the very beginning, is going to be departing the administration to lead the nhlpa, the national hockey league players association. this is something first reported elsewhere in the hockey world that mike memoli has been able to confirm. it is something the white house and the department of labor haven't provided any statement on. but it is notable because this is the first sort of statutory member of the cabinet to depart the administration. we had seen incredible cohesion so far and it is rare in the two-year mark to see this many cabinet level members still sticking by. sometimes they sign on and say i'll do the first half of the first term, but then i'm going to go pursue something else. i think this is the first cabinet member that we're seeing of the original makeup of the cabinet, we should point out

president biden did elevate somebody who led the science and technology office to be cabinet level and that person departed the administration about a year ago and that was a senate confirmed position as well. but this is a name that will be a little bit more familiar to people, former mayor of boston, somebody key in a lot of the discussions around the rail strike over the last couple of months, and somebody who has been a very close ally of the president set to depart in the coming weeks. >> do you think, jeff, that the president himself or the people around him and maybe marty walsh himself are saying right now we don't want this to get out today, this was not in the plans? >> i don't know what the reaction was, i've always joked that bidenland, we call it hotel delaware, check out anytime you like, but you can never leave. marty walsh is a beloved member of the cabinet. as a fellow boston boy, it is hard to say no to hockey. but even those who leave the biden orbit remain in the biden orbit when you're as well loved and authoritative and trusted as secretary walsh is.

>> another interesting -- did you want to -- >> no, no, no. i was going to say you have that story breaking now and, of course, the last couple of days the balloon. >> a little issue of a chinese spy balloon. we didn't get to that. eugene robinson, monica alba, matthew dowd, jeff nussbaum, thank you so much. appreciate you both. the president is, we have been told, making final edits to the speech including about the chinese spy balloon shot down over the weekend. the search for debris continues by military scuba divers in the atlantic. nbc's george solis has more from myrtle beach, income south caro. what is the latest on the search? >> methodical and widespread, a navy vessel is being put into the water. this is where we first saw some of the possible debris being recovered after it was shot down. we want to get to some pretty remarkable images of the

department of defense that they did release of some of the recovery efforts of the balloon. you can see the scope of the work that is taking place behind the scenes and off the coast of the carolinas. this is a massive white balloon. this is just a fragment of some of the pieces that the department of defense, the navy and other military are working to gather right now. they're working to do this fairly quickly. this is as big as the snoopy balloon from the macy's thanksgiving day parade. so a lot of people telling us when they saw this thing up in the air, they didn't get a sense of how large or small the balloon is. now we are getting that sense and not just the balloon debris they're after, they're also after that payload that information that may have been contributing to some of the spying that the government is so concerned about. one thing that we do know is that officials noted that this balloon may have had some maneuverability capabilities and that it might have been put in place in a strategic enough area so that the wind could have taken it over the states and

over some of the sensitive sites. at this hour, there is still no word if any of that debris from the balloon or the payload has washed on shore, but the warning from the officials has been from the get go that if it does wash up ashore in the coming days, to leave it alone, call it in, do not mess with it. back here on the ground, as you can see, there is lots of movement here. this is a bit of a spectacle, people coming out to see if they see any more of the balloon recovery. this lets you know the work and the scope of this project still fairly large, chris. >> caught the imagination of the american people without a doubt. george solis, thank you so much. up next, rescuers still desperately searching for any survivors in syria and turkey after two massive earthquakes. we'll talk to a doctor and disaster response expert about what crews are up against. plus, just hours before president biden's state of the union speech, the blunt opinions of voters in two key battleground states. and transportation secretary pete buttigieg will be here to talk about why many americans

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right now, thousands of rescue workers are digging through the rubble in below freezing temperatures. a race against time to search for survivors after the devastating earthquake that tore through turkey and syria. more than 6,000 people have now been confirmed dead, with one rescue worker saying that number could climb, quote, every minute. here's a rescue worker describing the desperation. >> we are hearing voices from under the rubble. we are hearing people and screams and messages under the rubble. and we couldn't make anything for them. there was no equipment to help the people out. >> nbc's matt bradley is in turkey for us. 70 countries are jumping in to try to offer any type of aid

they have, but time is running out to find survivors. tell us more about the search and rescue efforts and what teams are up against. >> reporter: yeah, well, we actually just a couple of hours ago caught a glimpse of one of the countries, looked like a bulgarian team who was here and this boisterous crowd who were all here expressing their concern trying to help out, we saw hundreds of people climbing up on this mountain of rubble, a lot of them just neighbors, friends, family, desperately trying to get people to move stones with their own hands before a lot of rescuers arrived. this bulgarian team, the first foreign team we have seen actually here on site, they showed up, the entire crowd went silent. this was their instruction, and the bulgarian team was able to use what looked like sensitive equipment, that's why they needed such silence, kind of like sounding equipment, to try to see if they could detect anybody or any voices underneath this rubble. but now in the past couple of

hours, every since that happened, this has become a much more professional effort and we have seen a lot more folks around here, more professionals coming in, they shooed away a lot of the crowd. they told people who were just sort of nonprofessional rescue workers to try to stay away. and then at the same time, well, a lot of them are still here, but they tried to tell them to stay away. and as they were doing this, they tried to implement some kind of order around here as more professional rescue workers have come in and are now taking over this really daunting operation going on for the past 36 hours. chris? >> matt bradley, thank you very much for that. i want to bring in the director for the national center for disaster preparedness at columbia university, dr. irwin redlener. you've been to so many of these kinds of disasters before, talk us to about what really seems to me unimaginable conditions for obviously the people who are trapped and for the searchers, what are they up against right now as you see it?

>> yeah, hi, chris, yeah. this is a horrendous situation. first thing i thought about was what happened in haiti in 2010, this massive collapse of buildings that were not prepared to deal with earthquake forces. and what we're going to have now is a string, 200 kilometers long of earthquakes and many, many aftershocks which keep bringing down more and more structures and making it very difficult for rescuers. but, you know, the class or traditional window we think of being able to get people out and have them survive is about 72 hours. we're at about 42, 43 hours right now. we have about another day for any real hope of getting many survivors out of there. people are in the rubble, that are still alive, may survive if they had crush injuries, where heavyweights on their extremities. this releases all kinds of proteins that are -- end up being toxic to the body and they

also are getting dehydrated. so the rescue must proceed as quickly as possible. very encouraging, 70 countries are chipping in, chris, but they got to work fast and it is very, very difficult. this earthquake produced a lot of different types of building collapse, all of which have had extraordinary fatalities. and then the other thing, the other point is that will they have enough medical facilities. even if they get a large number of survivors out, that's going to be a challenge. babies, young children, older people, people with pre-existing medical conditions will be even more susceptible to not surviving this horrendous natural disaster. >> in fact, you're wokking with a different type of disaster, you're working to help children in ukraine right now. that's where you are. is there a kind of -- i don't know if you call it a domino effect, but if you already have so many other humanitarian crises and now you're seeing what is unfolding in turkey, the

number of people going to be homeless, the number of people who are going to be refugees, is the world prepared to deal with it? >> it is not clear what the world is prepared to deal with it. i think things are not necessarily going to get better, certainly not in the part of the world i'm in right now, with the russian attacks actually increasing in ukraine. the things always trouble me about ukraine, we see this disaster in turkey and syria. and we're thinking this is mother nature, and it is a terrible, unfortunate tragedy. what is so painful about what we're seeing here in ukraine, where i am right now, this is intentional, this is deliberate, this is terrorism that is causing extraordinary harm to, many, many people. the irony of being in ukraine while what is happening in turkey i'm trying to sort out myself. we have to find out how to be

much more cooperative. so many countries are in turkey trying to help, it is a ray of hope for humanity. and hopefully we'll, you know, we'll get out of this ukraine tragedy and really start working together on climate, on disaster prevention, and everything else we need to deal with. but it is very tough out there right now. >> dr. irwin redlener, appreciate your expertise, thank you for being with us. now to an nbc news exclusive, president joe biden expected to travel to poland later this month to mark the one-year anniversary of russia's invasion of ukraine. poland has been a critical ally in helping ukrainian refugees, many of them will and children separated from their husbands and fathers. the white house has been considering ways to highlight ukrainian resiliency as it looks to strengthen european support. sources caution the trip isn't final until it is officially announced. we'll hear from voters in two crucial states that helped biden win the white house. why some say they're frustrated.

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that political context, the potential unofficial re-election launch, i asked how you think about president biden and especially in light of potential re-election announcement. listen to what they told me. >> you know, wishy washy on that. i would say that i haven't been hugely disappointed in some of his leadership. >> i would be amazed and inspired if he stepped down and let somebody younger and more progressive push forward. >> what other democrat would run in his place? i would be curious about that actually, it would be interesting. >> reporter: again, they all have told me that they will support president biden if he is the democratic nominee over any republican challenger, but that shows you that gap in enthusiasm here among his core support. again, supporters who turned out in high numbers just four years ago -- three years ago. >> and enthusiasm gaps make people whose job is turn out very nervous without a doubt.

dasha, you're in biden's birth state, pennsylvania. the state that gave him the presidency, what are you hearing there? >> reporter: well, i'm hearing about a different kind of gap. that is a gap between the numbers, the statistics, the headlines that voters see and what they feel in their day to day experience. they're trying to hobble together some sort of bipartisanship at least in their own personal political lives. and what these voters tell me is that they see that the unemployment numbers are down, they see that inflation is starting to cool off in the headlines, but they don't actually feel that quite yet. and what they want to hear for the -- from the president tonight and this really struck me, chris, i heard this from both republicans and democrats, they want to hear some real talk tonight. they know and expect that the president is going to tout some of his achievements, but they want some honesty and transparency around what the

american people should realistically expect when it comes to concerns about a coming recession about the tensions with china, about what we're doing abroad in ukraine, they want to hear a real direct conversation between the president and the american people. i want you to listen to two voters i talked to on that. >> i think he needs to do a better job of getting the democrats and republicans to put aside their differences and focus on just the issues for americans so that we can, like i said, continue to get better. don't tell us what we want to hear. tell us what he really has planned. >> i think the transparency issue from both parties is a big issue and i think that i heard from both sides that the president just hasn't been kind of taking that transparent step to be, hey, this is what's going on. >> reporter: and, again, that bipartisanship issue was huge for voters on all sides of the political spectrum. really wanting to see some of these leaders like president

biden, but also leaders in the house and the senate try to put aside some of the political differences to get some things done. they say a lot of politicians campaign on being able to reach across the aisle, but they're not seeing that yet and they hope the president can try to do that at least a little bit tonight. chris? >> dasha burns, shaquille brewster, interesting stuff. thank you very much. up next, billions of dollars being doled out for infrastructure projects all around the country. why do many feel like nothing is happening yet? i'll ask pete buttigieg next. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. ieg next you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc maybe it's perfecting that special place that you want to keep in the family... ...or passing down the family business... ...or giving back to the places that inspire you. no matter your purpose, at pnc private bank, we will work with you every step of the way to help you achieve it. so let us focus on the how. just tell us - what's your why?

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their communities. so let me bring in the man in charge, transportation secretary pete buttigieg. good to see you. how do you get people to feel good about these products and, projects and frankly give credit where credit is due when they actually aren't seeing them yet? >> well, these things don't get done overnight. there are some policies that can be implemented almost the moment they get approved. i'm thinking of things like $35 insulin for seniors on medicare, something that americans overwhelmingly favor and the president was able to get it done in that -- we wish it was bipartisan, that inflation reduction act that got through congress. it took effect almost overnight. on something like infrastructure, there is more of a process. you have to set up the program, get the dollars moving, turn a spade, go through the construction season, or two or three and see the project to completion. what is so exciting about this moment is now we're getting into that phase. we spent so much of the first year persuading congress to pass

this bill, having that conversation with the american people. so much of the second year building the programs to start getting those dollars out the door. now we're making the actual improvements. 70,000 miles of highway improved. we started repair on over 2,700 bridges at least identified them and got the process moving. and there is only going to be more where this came from each passing year. it does take a while for some of these benefits to flow through to everybody, but they're very much under way. and while there is a lot of negativity, certainly in washington and being pushed out online, if you look at the actual results already beginning to accrue, whether in the infrastructure space or more generally in an economy that hasn't seen unemployment this low since 1969, the results show that we're on the right track and i think the president tonight will have an opportunity to make the case for why we need to finish the job and not have some switch or shift in priorities toward things like the cuts that house republicans

have been talking about, but rather continue working on things that widespread majorities of the american people on both sides of the aisle think we ought to keep doing, whether the infrastructure, fairer taxes, prescription drugs or any of the other things that the president achieved or is working to deliver. >> i don't need to tell you because you spent a lot of time on the campaign trail talking to americans, that there is frustration out there, they feel like government doesn't move fast enough, right? they see a problem, they want it fixed. i think they're also realistic they understand big infrastructure projects take time, but to the point of finishing the job, what are they going to see in the short-term and what realistically can you tell them please be patient with us for good reason it may take three or five or ten years? >> well, one of the things that excites me is even on the big projects that may take years to see all the way through to completion, think some of the bridges that need to be completely replaced or tunnels that have been waiting for

repair for 150 years and we're finally replacing them, even if it will take a few years before those projects are done, it is not going to take a few years before jobs are being created working on those projects. and that's one of the things that i think is most compelling about this bipartisan infrastructure law, whose official title is the infrastructure investment and jobs act. and there is really two levels of benefit we're going to see. first, the benefit of the good paying jobs that will go to so many people in the hard hats doing the delivery. and then the decades of benefits that will come to people who get to use that, that new airport, get to drive on that new bridge, going to take a train or transit through the new tunnel, get the many benefits that will come from us having that better transportation system that americans have wanted and deserve for very long time. >> so i was speaking with one of your colleagues in the administration yesterday, about the push and pull of the state of the union. so many cabinet secretaries, members of congress, activists, advisers, they all got their pitches, right, for what they

see somebody a priority in the speech. if you can, take us inside just how many competing interests are there and what was your pitch? >> so, it is true. i could probably recommend three hours worth of high level comments for a speech about just what has been achieved or is under way in the transportation area alone. and getting that down to the handful of sentences that the president can devote to any individual topic tonight is part of the art of what he and his team are polishing and refining probably even as we speak. there is so much to be proud of from an infrastructure bill that was promised for years and years and years. remember all the talk in the last administration about infrastructure week, it came and went without results again and again. this president actually got it done and got it done on a bipartisan basis when people said that was impossible and declared this project dead many times in a row. we're talking about that, whether talking about the work that is going on to make airline

travel a better experience. we got a lot of wins in terms of toughening up of the standards over the course of the last year. clearly a long way to go and more work to be done to hold airlines accountable to a higher passenger customer service standard. those are just a couple of the things i would point to from the transportation sector alone. if you look big picture, as ron klain put it during his departure event, if you think about the historic terms of what the president has done, the most historic legislation since fdr while managing the biggest land war in europe since truman and delivering the second largest most significant healthcare legislation since lbj, all while dealing with the slimmest congressional majority any new democratic president had in about 100 years, going on to deliver the most significant climate legislation passed by any president or any government in any part of the world ever, just to name a few of the accomplishments, i think part of what is challenging for the state of the union tonight is to

make room for dozens of achievements, any one of which in normal times would stand on their own as an almost legacy defining accomplishment for a president. so many things that have needed to be done for a long time that make the last two years one of the most productive legislative periods in the history of the modern american presidency and with two more years to go in this term, to try to finish the job and, by the way, knowing that we now have a divided congress, pointing to some things that will follow through on the president's unity agenda he announced a year ago. things like dealing with the opioid crisis, dealing with what veterans are up against, very personally important to me and to millions of americans, battling cancer something that is important to all of us and very personal to the president. and supporting americans' mental health. these are things that you shouldn't have to be a democrat or a republican to care about. and so, you know, it is going to continue fighting on things where we haven't been able to get republicans to help us like

getting $35 insulin for every single american. but also those things where we really do think we can form bipartisan majorities and coalitions, like he did on the chip and science act, getting inform manufacturing back to the u.s., just like the p.a.c.t. act taking care of veterans exposed to burn pits in iraq and afghanistan. i could talk myself blue in the face mentioning a few of these great things. i'm glad that there will be this opportunity tonight because i'm convinced that if every american could just be in a room with the president the way i have and see how he makes decisions and see how viscerally he thinks about how every decision can make americans better off and build our economy from the bottom up, if everybody can see that, if everybody would see that, i think they'd be 1,000% on board. the next best thing is for him to have a chance to take his case directly to the american people. that's what we'll see this evening. >> pete buttigieg, thank you so much for your time.

appreciate it. and up next, how is president biden feeling about tonight? well, i'll ask my colleague, jonathan capehart. he just had lunch with the president moments ago. you're watching chris jansing reports only on msnbc. g chris j reports only on msnbc. emerge tremfyant®. with tremfya®, most people saw 90% clearer skin at 16 weeks. the majority of people saw 90% clearer skin even at 5 years. serious allergic reactions may occur. tremfya® may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms or if you had a vaccine or plan to. emerge tremfyant®. with tremfya®. ask your doctor about tremfya® today.

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so what's the mood in the white house only hours before the president's inconsequential speech? my colleague just finished lunch with the president and joins me now. as per usual, you look fantastic, but how does the president seem? is he raring to go or seem like somebody who's under pressure of having to tweak and practice? >> the sense i got is that the president is raring to go. i have to point out that the luncheon was off the record so i cannot tell you specifically or quotes or anything like that. but i can tell you that the president is raring to go. he recognizes that this is probably the biggest platform he is going to have to talk to the american people at all this year. and i think also what the president is hoping to do is to boost up the optimism of the american people that better days

are ahead and we've heard the administration officials say this time and time again that a lot of the things, a lot of the policy wins from 2022 are either just kicking in now or will kick in later in the year. so i think we can look forward to the president leaning into that. in addition to lots of things dealing with foreign policy, i think we'll hear from him on ukraine, we'll hear from him maybe on china. writ large. i don't know about specifically. about the balloon, but i was seated to the right of the president and i had a view of the stuff he brought in with him and right there on the table was a big black binder that said state of the union draft, 9:15 p.m. >> and you didn't like, swipe it? >> are you out of your mind? no. but text me, i'll tell you about some of the other stuff that was on the table. >> i don't know if this was off

the record because we have 30 seconds, but what was for lunch? >> a nice salad to start. chicken breast. with a cream sauce and spinach and then a vanilla ice cream chocolate dome and coffee. >> did the dome look like the capitol? >> it did not. it was chocolate. >> jonathan capehart, my friend, good to see you. see you soon. that's going to do it for us this hour. stay with nbc news. we'll have complete coverage of president biden's state of the union. rachel, joy, and nicole will have special coverage on msnbc. also, streaming on peacock and join us every weekday, 1:00 eastern time right here on msnbc. don't go away. katy tur picks up things after this quick break. katy tur picks up things after this quick break

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good to be with you. i'm katy tur. president biden will walk into a very different house chamber tonight for his second state of the union address. a now divided congress with a new republican speaker behind him and a packed calendar full of investigations into the president and his administration. for biden's own handing of classified documents and now the chinese spy balloon to his son's laptop and business dealings. the legislaea