♪♪ tonight on "the reid out" -- >> we have to be the nation we've always been at our best. optimistic, hopeful, forward-looking. we have to see each other not as enemies but as fellow americans. as president biden calls for unity, marjorie taylor greene

does the act opposite. at least she did leave the balloon prop at home. also embarrassing herself, her bff kevin the speaker and the whole country, too. meanwhile in the republican response, sarah huckabee sanders does her version of carnage tying the party back to trump. also tonight, reaction to president biden's call for police reform as twisted new details emerge today about tyre nichols' death after a vicious beating by memphis police. we begin tonight with a state of the union address for the books. when last night president biden achieved what kevin mccarthy could never do, which was uniting the room and getting republicans to jump to their seats in support of medicare and social security. yes, that happened. it was a master class, really, on outnegotiating republicans, pulled off by biden who sparred with a raucous crowd.

>> no president added more to the national debt in any four years than my predecessor. they're the facts. check it out. check it out. some republicans want medicare and social security to sunset. i'm not saying it's a majority. let me give you -- anybody who doubts it, contact my office. i'll give you a copy. i'll give you a copy of the proposal. that means congress doesn't vote -- i'm glad to see it. i enjoy conversion. as we all apparently agree, social security, medicare is off the books now, right? they're not to be struck. all right. got unanimity. so tonight, let's all agree and

we apparently are, let's stand up for seniors. stand up and show them we will not cut social security. we will not cut medicare. >> you see what he did there, getting the republicans so riled up that they made a public commitment to a major tenant of the democratic platform. i mean, who needs a 2024 campaign ad when you control the opposing party into face planting in realtime. and it was intentional. the trolling was literally in the scripted speech. deft moves by a president whose political longevity sets him apart, which is why he seemed unbothered by the jeers the contempt and far too much fear. remember, it was biden alongside speaker nancy pelosi who sat on the die yas during the infamous moment in 2009 when a south

carolina republican yelled at president obama during his joint session of congress. >> the reforms i'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegal. >> lie. >> that's not true. >> at the time the scandal, yes it was quite the scandal, resulted in the house rebuking that house member. but these days, such pet ewe lent outbursts are business as usual. you lie they howl. it seemed to energize biden. folks sometimes forget but bide season a really good politician who has been doing this a long time. he literally used to demonstrate speaker mccarthy's lack of control over the hard right extremists within his party. biden also put on blast the facts and receipts do not matter to republicans, only performative outrage. do they not realize that the republican plot to destroy social security, medicare and medicaid is an actual televised thing? what we saw last night was as

biden as biden gets, calls for unity, blue collar pitch, the promise of job creation and to finish the job. and by doing so, he exposed something very important for america to see, 20 months before presidential election. he showed us what republicans refused to stand up for. >> i stand here tonight after we've created with the help of many people in this room, 12 million new jobs, more jobs created in two years than any president created in four years because of you all. because of the american people. two years ago democracy faced its greatest threat since civil war, today, though bruised, our democracy remains unbowed and unbroken. let's give public schoolteachers

a raise. >> joining me now is democratic strategist and former executive director of the new york state democratic party and nbc news presidential historian michael beschloss. i want to have you hold on for one second, michael. i normally would start with my in-house historian, but i have to come to you basel to ask you, how happy were democrats with that state of the union on a scale of 10 to 10.9? >> 12. and i tell you it was such a good job that even my jamaican friends and family members who are usually very hard on joe biden called me and said we're happy with joe ranken. ranken is a term of honor. they were very proud of him. it was deft. it was nimble. he was fiery and feisty and gave as good or better than he got. and as you're talking about the speech, what's important to note the construction of that speech

allowed him to hit every line he needed to hit. and it also proved, even though -- even if donald trump is not in the race, he knows how to make a good foil of the republican party. and that a master class in the setup, in great delivery, but also in understanding who your opponent is and how to chop them up. >> they will have to call him shut up. michael, let me bring you in. rank this speech. it was unusual. the room felt almost like the house of commons or maybe the house of common because the way that the republicans were acting. but talk about the speech in historical terms. >> well, it was almost like he was playing that audience like an electric piano in a jazz club. you know, oftentimes you have great speeches, like franklin roosevelt, four freedoms in 1941 or lbj with the great society 1965. but those were well-written speeches that were well

delivered. this was three dimensional. he was interacting with the audience, he was using them as a foil. i think the presidential speech writers and presidential staff into the future will look at video of last night as how a president uses the occasion. you know, we heard it so many times, this is probably more people saw him last night and listened to him last night than probably will at any time this year. it's hard to think that he could have been more effective. >> yeah. and the polls show that the speech was overwhelmingly viewed positively. it does show the kind of benefits of letting biden be biden. the line, stand up if you love social security. stand up. that was in the script. we had the script in front of us. we had the speech in front of us. those rachel and nicole and i and the team. we could see that this was scripted. the parts that were unscripted were the parts where he got republicans to either not stand up for things that were very joy americana, stuff you would

normally stand for or made them get up and stand up for social security. here is the thing he had on his side. basil, you first, the whole social security thing, we wouldn't do that. roll them. here are the receipts he knew were out there. this is republicans talking about social security. >> it will be my objective to phase out social security, to pull it up by the roots and get rid of it. >> social security and medicare, if you qualify for the entitlement, you just get it no matter what the cost. what we ought to be doing is we ought to turn everything into discretionary spending so it's all evaluated, so that we can fix problems or fix programs that are broken, that are going to be going bankrupt. >> recently put out 11-point plan to rescue america. that would raise taxes on half of americans and potentially sunset programs like medicare, medicaid and social security. why would you propose something like that in an election year? >> sure.

john, that's of course the democrat talking points. >> no. it's in the plan. it's in the plan. >> well, but -- >> it's literally in the plan. 12-point plan, all federal legislation, rick scott who is in charge of the republican re-elect for the united states senate, all federal legislation sunsets in five years. law is worth keeping it, we'll keep it again. wait, he's going some place. there's more. here is biden today. take a listen. >> i remind you that rick scott from florida, the guy who ran the u.s. senate campaign, has a plan. i got his brochure right here. it has a plan. here is what he says in his plan, let me open it up here. i'm sorry. he says, all federal legislation sunsets every five years. if the law is worth keeping, congress can pass it again. social security, medicare, medicaid. >> it strikes me that part of what biden did last night was he made himself an insurance policy no matter who runs -- he has to

run against. by the way, the governor of florida who all of the media loves so much, he's a tea partier. all of this when he was in congress, lindsey graham said entitlement reform has to happen. rick allen of georgia says he wants to raise the retirement age because people want to work longer. ted bud elected in north carolina says he supports the. i could go on and on. is this an insurance plan, if i run, it doesn't matter if it's trump or anyone else. >> it was done that the foil is the republican party. it is the republican party. that's why that speech is so well constructed because every line is a commercial. every single thing. and you could see him setting it up over and over and over again. and we can imagine the rollout between now and the end of 2024. so it doesn't matter who it is, there's a lot of ammunition there. >> you know what's interesting to me also, michael, is that a lot of what biden was talking about last night is stuff that trump actually used to say,

right? the working class are tired of getting screwed. here are the things that republicans -- meanwhile he got -- this republicans clapped for paul pelosi. that was gracious. ending cancer burn bit bill. they wouldn't clap for democracy, giving public schoolteachers a raise. lowering the cost of insulin, creating jobs. when you can get republicans to not stand up for things that most americans say, yeah, the cable companies to stop screwing us over or the bills and things. i don't understand what republican strategy is and why they think that will work. >> well, you're assuming that there is a strategy that this is not just ad hoc and you're assuming that we've got a powerful speaker who can influence people on his side to do things like not scream from the cheap seats in the house of chambers. >> can you say more on that, michael. can you talk more about -- because kevin mccarthy, i feel like he looked particularly weak

last night. >> right. well, appearances are not always deceiving. this is someone who has so little control over this caucus you can imagine if nancy pelosi or sam rayburn in ancient history said to members of their caucus, be quiet. do not give the president of the opposing party a weapon by heckling or by sitting on your hands or by screaming, they would have done that because they would have been afraid that the speaker would put their furniture out on the street the speaker was not happy. that's not kevin mccarthy. someone who turns his back, the erasers will fly in the classroom. >> at this point he feels like historically weak speaker. is there an analog to him in history that we could point to as somebody similar? >> oh, there are a lot of weak speakers in history. the ones that we know about are the ones who were strong. that's why you hear about people

like sam rayburn and will hear in the future about nancy pelosi and also in early days. henry clay. others like that. >> yeah. >> so this is an office where especially in the 20th century people assume that a speaker would tell people what to do. >> yeah. >> and when you made so many deals, still secret in many cases, with all sorts of people on the republican side to just basically worm your way into this job by a hair breath, this is almost a house without a speaker. we saw that last night. and joe biden -- you know when the first state of the union that joe biden ever attended was? trivia question. maybe not so trivial. 1974 it was richard nixon. >> he's seen them all. >> he's been in these things for 50 years. he knew how to work the room. he knew how to maximize the experience. and it was unbelievable. >> experience counts. i can tell you right now and

basil tell you because we had similar mothers, if nancy pelosi had been sitting up there and any democrats she would look at them like our mothers would look at us and we would be quiet. thank you both very much. up next on "the reid out," romney scolds santos, mccarthy looks sad and sarah huckabee sanders fails to grasp the meaning of the word freedom. the view from the other side of the aisle when "the reid out" comes back. r side of the aisle when "the reid out" comes back cam with floodlight, with intelligent alerts when a person or familiar face is detected. sam. sophie's not here tonight. so you have a home with no worries. brought to you by adt.

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congressional republicans were having a rough night at the state of the union. even before president biden got the best of them. senator mitt romney exchanged words with infamous new york congressman george santos, apparently the only republican with the gumption to call out the serial babblist. senator romney later told reporters what transpired. >> look, he's a sick puppy. he shouldn't be there. given the fact that he's under ethics investigation, he should be sitting in the back row and staying quiet instead of parading in front of the president. but he shouldn't be there. if he had any shame at all he wouldn't be there. i don't think he ought to be in congress and shouldn't in the aisle trying to shake the hand of the president of the united states and dignitaries coming in. it's an embarrassment. >> the talented mr. santos wasn't the only republican to embarrass themselves and their leader, mccarthy. mccarthy seemed pretty miserable even before he tried and failed to rein in the band of misfits and trolls that now make up his caucus.

when it came to republican response, they looked to original maga, form of new generation, arkansas governor sarah huckabee sanders, who stressed one thing in particular -- >> most americans simply want to live their lives in freedom and peace. but we are under attack in a left-wing culture war we didn't start and never wanted to fight. i'm for freedom. your freedom of speech. and the fight for freedom. america is great because we are free. our freedom is under attack. america is still the place where freedom reigns and liberty will never die. >> freedom, freedom. it's a stretch honestly to say you're from freedom when you support taking away women's reproductive freedoms and bans drag performances. and as a newly-minted governor, sanders issued day one orders prohibiting arkansas schools from teaching the rights made up of boogie man critical race theory and banning the term latin. x. banning a word and banning black

history during black history month. she is using the opposite day definition of freedom. joining me now is michael steele, msnbc analyst and host of the michael steele podcast. good to see you yesterday. >> it was good to hang. >> before we get to sarah huckabee sanders, i feel like bringing her out was so retro. she tries to tell these stories recasting trump as some sort of military hero. she told really moving story about coming through cancer, but then she veered off into this whole freedom thing. she said freedom 473 times but here is the thing, her party is banning women's reproductive freedoms, basically enslaving women to the state. they are banning books and saying that children are not free to read about black history, holocaust history. it's so counterintuitive i wonder who they think that message was for. are they saying freedom to tweet

like rotten stuff? i don't understand what they mean. >> well, no. you raise a good point. and it's an important point because i think it fundamentally goes to understanding sort of the inner thinking and how that's projected out ward. so, the inner thinking is these are words, buzz words, they matter. they mean something to a lot of people. you and i are generally probably of the same mind about the concept of freedom. certainly as an old school republican, i kind of look at it from sort of a libertarian perspective. you do you, boo. as long as it doesn't infringe on my right to do me. >> yes. >> and my abilities to do me. that's how we have a limited view of what the role of government is in your life as a woman who may decide in this moment i have to make a freedom choice regarding my body and my health. and in my right as a catholic to practice my freedom choice of

religion. and so, this is now so distorted and contorted to mean what i want it to mean for me applying to how you live your life. >> right. >> who you love and how you experience the world. that's moment freedom 400 times is ringing that bell to that very narrow group of people who want to see america look, sound and feel the way they do. so it was deliberate. it was deliberate. it was in one sense retro, old school. but the meaning of the word is far different today than what it was 50 years ago, hell, even 20 years ago. >> that is so smart. i'm glad you pointed that out. let me just -- i want to play a difference between biden and huckabee sanders in just a second, but what you said i want to drill a little more because the republican party has really -- they've put aside all policy ideas. and they've wrapped themselves

around the idea that a governor should tell individual schools what books they can have on the shelves, that a governor could tell individual people where they can take their children f you can take kids to this show or not that show. it's your kids. they are telling schools you cannot have the freedom to say, well, i want to protect these kids from covid. you can't do anything but what this governor tells you to do. women, whether in a blue or red state, they have a case that says no woman can have this abortion pill. i know a lot of pro-people anti-abortion against this i don't want the federal, the state, my local government, i don't want any government telling me what to do. it feels like the republican party has gone big, big, big government because as you said, they can't shift the culture. look at the grammys. they lost that. so they said, fine, we're going to make americans behave the way we like and behave according to our religious convictions. and we're going to use the power of the state to do that.

it is so anti-libertarian that it's kind of shocking that they do that and think that that's going to be read as freedom to people. >> well, and now you understand the essence of make america great again because, yes, it's make america great again, it's make america what we perceive to be great. what we perceive to be best for us. now, we can break that down into race, what's best for white people, we can break that down into culture, what's best for christian evangelicals, conservative christian evangelicals and break that down and apply it across a whole spectrum of things that make up this wonderful american experiment. look, we have our tensions, joy. you know that. >> absolutely. >> in the past republicans have always said work it out at the local level. >> at the local level, that's right, yeah. >> notice what happens they got to congress, now we're going to nationalize it and tell you what -- most people don't get to decide whether or not you have an abortion or keep that child,

we're going to decide. >> and what words you can say. not everybody likes the word latin-x. you're going to outlaw it? >> biden versus sanders. >> speaker, i don't want to ruin your reputation, but i look forward to working with you. >> the america we love is in danger. president biden and the democrats have failed you. >> we have to see each other not as enemies but fellow americans. >> he surrendered to a woke mob that can't tell you what a woman. >> don't worry. i promised i would be a president for all americans. we'll fund these promgts. and i'll see you at the groundbreaking. >> the radical left america, washington taxes you and lights your hard-earned money on fire. >> despite all that, biden refuses to demonize all republicans. if you want lower drug prices, lower cable prices, lower

airline prices, lower hotel prices, you can come with me. i'm for you. i'm going to make jobs in red states just as well as blue states. i'm not going to decide which is which depending on who voted for me. i'm the new face of young republicanism, i hate biden. it's so discon grews you. they're not doing the same thing politically at all and feels like what biden is doing has a broader marketplace. >> so that's essential. so biden last night his speech was a blue collar speech. it was a speech to working americans. >> yes. >> to the party that wants to pull that vote, claim that space, this was their response. this was their response was to prey on fear and to prey on a lack of agenda. the lack of focus. they don't -- they're not working your interest, we are. okay. so i'll give you that moment. tell me what you're doing in my interest. well, i'm going to talk to you about transgenderism. i'm going to talk to you about

abortion. i'm going to -- >> right. >> and people are like, well wait a minute, i have a transgender -- i'm a conservative with a transgender child. what are you saying to me? >> that's right. >> that's the reality. >> some jobs working on these new semiconductors and stuff. biden is giving me jobs. i don't get it. michael steele, i appreciate you, my friend. thank you. still ahead, house republicans revenge and retribution tour kicks into high gear as the snow flake party tries and fails to paint themselves as victims. boohoo. that's next. s victims. boohoo that's next. like ravette... every step, brought her pain. their only hope: mercy ships. the largest floating civilian hospital in the world. bringing free surgeries to people who have no other hope. $19 a month will help provide urgently needed surgery for so many still suffering. so don't wait, call the number on your screen. or donate at mercyships.org. there are some who want to divide us,

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♪♪ if you want to see just how seriously republicans are taking their house majority, take a look at what they spent more than eight hours doing oversight on today. no, it wasn't inflation, gas prices, prescription drug prices or education. instead, the house oversight committee decided to hold a hearing on issues that really matter to americans, namely, why twitter, a private company, which can set its own rules of engagement decided to restrict a link to a new york post article about hunter biden's laptop for a few hours, more than two years ago. before it even began, the white house denounced the hearing as a bizarre political stunt and boy were they right. republicans like to use the incident as an example of the government pressuring twitter to

suppress certain posts or accounts from conservative voices. naturally, like most things with the maga republican party, the hearing quickly descended into a real-life manifestation of twitter. filled with incoherent, unhinged and basically allegations untethered from reality. >> was it me that you violated my first amendment rights, you violated countless conservative americans. these were doctors that were trying to tell the truth about covid. doctors that were having success treating people with ivermectin that you all would not allow to be talked about on your platform. i'm so glad you lost your jobs. thank god elon musk bought twitter. >> i find it extremely alarming twitter's unfettered censorship spread into medical fields and affected millions of americans by suppressing expert opinions from doctors and censoring those who disagree with the cdc. i have great regrets about getting the shot because of the health issues i now have. >> there was no evidence of the

trump campaign colluding with russia. there was none. it was fabricated by the democrats and the clinton campaign. >> no horse medicine on twitter? despite the qanon squealing a few important things did come out of this hearing thanks to the democratic members. russia, yes, continued to meddle in american elections as recently as the 2022 election. twitter executives ignored warnings about january 6th and lastly we did learn that one administration did indeed seek to sensor twitter. that administration being donald trump's. >> earlier you testified about a 2019 tweet that was about president trump. i think it was from his teigen. what was the tweet about? >> would you like me to give the direct quote? >> yeah. >> please excuse my language, this is a direct quote, but chrissy teigen referred to donald trump as a [ bleep ]. >> okay. free speech. and what happened after miss teigen posted her tweet, what did the white house do?

what did the trump white house do? >> from my understanding the white house reached to ask that this tweet be removed. >> ever since elon musk took over the company, profitability is down and hate speech, anti-semitism and misinformation are way, way up, which the republican majority didn't seem to care about at all. joining me now is freshman congresswoman jazz min crock et of texas, a member of the house oversight committee. congresswoman, first of all, my apologies for the amount of time that's being wasted in this committee talking about things like hunter biden's laptop, but i would love for you to recount for us how much time was spent on this hunter biden's laptop story, and how sincere you think republicans are about this or did you get the sense that it was a performance? >> so i lost count. i just know that it was way too much time. i do appreciate katie porter, who outlined, you know, how much

time we were spending working on this versus the amount of time that this post was actually down. there basically was about the same amount of time which absolutely makes no sense. but i think that the republicans again are going to do our jobs for us. they are showing the american people who they are and what they care about. they care about conspiracy theories and nonsense. they do not care about you as people. they do not care about truth. they do not care about transparency. all they want to do is now use their majority to effectuate their individual issues that they have, as you heard from marjorie taylor greene as well as lauren boebert. we know both of them are nothing but walking human beings that don't know the truth if it slapped them in the face. so, they were upset about their personal twitter accounts. we should not be using federal funds, federal time to deal with their personal issues. but seemingly that's what we will be dealing with with this

republican majority. that's why it is imperative that the democrats take the house back. >> you know, i think for a lot of people, they became accustom to the oversight committee being sort of a show, being kind of a clown show that republicans would use as the channel for whatever their grievances were. right? they would take that committee, and you had heroic democrats like the late elijah cummings would counter them and try to shut down some of the nonsense. but you're right, it does feel like now the purpose for the republicans on the committee is their own personal grievances with losing their twitter accounts or having their twitter accounts banned. usually for saying things that were violent or that were conspiracy theories. or still re-fighting the last election, the last presidential election. was there anything -- did anything come up in the oversight hearing today that was about americans current, pragmatic practical problems, things like drug prices being so

high, the things like president biden talked about, cable news companies overcharging folks? there is a lot to do oversight on. >> yeah. if anything came up that was relevant and pressing for the american people, it came from the democratic side. obviously most people know me because of my fight around voting rights. so definitely i wanted to talk about democracy and the threat that is presented to democracy and how that threat has been presented via twitter and how a lot of those threats to democracy have actually led to political violence. if we're going to have a conversation about social media and the harms, then we need to talk about actual harms, not hurt feelings. right? that's what we dealt with today was hurt feelings versus actual harm. we definitely made sure that we asked those representatives from twitter or former representatives about january 6th, about the warning signs, about the things that should have been done. and you know, they were great

suggestions. there was a suggestion that we look at providing some bills around maybe what members are allowed to do, those government actors because it doesn't make sense that we had a former twice-impeached president that was inciting nothing but fear, hate and obviously violence. and so he should have had a higher level that he was going to be held to along with the likes of a boebert or marjorie taylor greene. they talked about that. they didn't want to talk about real issues that are pressing right now in this country even as it relates -- they didn't want to go to bullying. we can talk about bullying in social media. we can talk about a lot of things. talking about this new york post link was not really one of those. they can't be taken seriously. and i think that they recognize that they won't be taken seriously because we made sure that we redirected the conversation to things of substance for the american

people. >> i will note for folks that are sort of following the clown show on the other side, matt gaetz was added to this weaponization of government committee. again, this is somebody who participated in the insurrection to the point where he actually seemed to have asked for a pardon for himself. these folks are the subject of hearings not running them. any way, we are where we are. thank you so much for being here and thank you for representing facts and truth on that committee. coming up next, president biden urges congress to pass policing reforms as we learn more about what happened on the night that memphis police beat tyre nichols to death. we'll be back right after this. - here we go. - remember, mom's a kayak denier, so please don't bring it up. - bring what up? kayak? - excuse me? do the research, todd. - listen to me. kayak searches hundreds of travel sites to find you great deals on flights, cars and hotels. - they're lying to you.

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most of us in here have never had to have the talk, the talk, that brown and black parents have had to have with their childre i never had to have the talk, i never had to tell them if a police officer pulls you over, turn your interior lights rice away. don't reach for your license. keep your hands on the steering wheel. imagine having to worry like that every single time your kid got in a car. >> in last night's state of the union address, president biden spoke to what black parents all too well the need to have the talk with their children.

i had to do it with my own kids. those remarks came as the president addressed the parents of tyre nichols, who were sitting with the first lady. and there are disturbing new details in that investigation. memphis police say one of the officers charged in the death of tyre nichols, demetrius hailey not only snapped photos of a bloodied and bruised nichols as he was propped up against a police car after he was brutally beaten and kicked, he sent those pictures to at least five people including other officers and female acquaintance. seven more police officers are under administrative investigations. those officers not been publicly identified face disciplinary action according to the city's chief legal officer. joining me now is justice correspondent for the nation and my friend. so good to see you in person. >> nice to see you in person. >> we here. we out here. let's talk about this because this texting of the photo, and this is what "the new york times" writes, police officers said it was part of a pattern of mocking abuse and blatantly

unpropossessional behavior by that officers laughing at the beating and bragging about their involvement. at some point legally now you have something like 13 officers involved, do we go from the charges we're seeing now to something higher, murder one? >> the difference between murder two, which is what they have been charged with and murder one, the only higher charge that's available is planning. did the officers plan to kill tyre nichols? or did it happen in the moment? now with the texting of these pictures, especially necessarily who they texted them to, we don't know why. but that suggests that there was some kind of plan. that they wanted to get not just the next person they saw, quote unquote, reckless driving but they were looking for him. if they were looking for him, and the intention was to beat him up send a message to him and he died bauds of that depraved indifference to his life, that would elevate the crime for murder two to murder one. >> that would be for all of

them, or just for the one officer who they're saying sent the pictures? >> that would be for -- >> speculating. >> it's speculation but depending on how that was transmitted, that would be for all of them. >> unfortunately these cases are like one everyday it seems like it happens all the time. in this case, do you see a difference that makes it look to you just outside looking in from a legal point of view like this isn't a traffic stop that turned into a beating, that it is something more. that is rumor. we're not going to talk about the rumors, but does it feel that way to you? >> the level of aggression they had for that man when they pulled him out of the car, was surprising. was more than we usually see. again, makes it seem like there was some planning or premeditation involved. based on what we see in the video, it's murder two. based on what we see in the video there's nothing elevating >> we were talking at the break about how police reform made it, the second half of the speech, i give president biden credit for not saying find the police.

aoc gave him credit for, that a lot of activists say that, did you say that? >> biden is a nice man, and they don't want to be hard on, him i believe that biden in his heart, all else being equal, would rather not preside over a country where coach's rigorously beat people to death, but all else is not equal. this is a tough situation, and what we see with the framing of that, with putting it in the second half hour, talking about bank fees before you talk about police reform, what we have seen is that not just biden, but almost none of the people in that chamber have what it takes to actually do this, because vendor stan, it is unpopular with the majority of white voters. me too many of those politicians have decided that it's okay to sacrifice your kids, my kids, 1000 tyre nichols, that those are acceptable sacrifices for the political realities that police reform bothers to many white folks. >> let's talk about the other

thing that did not get a ton of mansion in the speech. president biden talked about roe v. wade, but mostly in the sense that i will stop republicans for doing a national abortion ban, which wouldn't pass the senate anyway, which is good to know. but there is a new threat with the federal right to abortion, there's this state case out of texas, a right-wing judge that would let no woman across the woman get access to the abortion pill. you've talked about, and read about the fact that there is a little bit of hope. this is in politico. there is a judge named colleen call or hotel, the supreme court's ruling in overturning roe v. wade concluded that the 14th amendment included no right to abortion, but did not address the 13th amendment. please explain. >> there are lots of amendments, folks. one of the amendments that we have that we could potentially use to protect abortion rights is the 13th amendment. the 13th amendment says no slavery, but what does it say? it says that in forced labor is

unconstitutional in these united states. i can't think of a more pointed click version of forced labor than forcing a woman that does not want to labor for nine months against her will, for free. that should already be unconstitutional, according to the 13th amendment. there are lots of other ways of getting at this abortion issue, with the problem being that they all end up at the same six theological conservatives, won the supreme court, and have decided that they are on religious grounds, and are going to take away reproductive rights for the rest of the country. >> and we have been talking about free states, slave states for women. that's the way that i've been framing it. essentially, if you live in a red state, your state decides what you can do with your body. your room belongs to their body, and this puts it into that frame. this is the challenge that i think conservatives are going to have. they don't like the idea that doctors have to treat you, because they say that is forcing their labor. they are saying that women, as you said, do nine months for free.

>> there are other aspects of child rearing where we forced people to labor for their children. if you're a parent, and you don't want your kids anymore, you can give them to the state and they will take care of them. they don't force parents elaborate, because, again that is already unconstitutional. the idea that we can then force a woman who does not want to be pregnant anymore, and to give nothing, say nothing of women that did not choose to get pregnant in the first place -- >> exactly. >> they can force babies to carry them to term. let's already be unconstitutional. >> this is a case that i want to come somewhere, and see how it coast, people on religious grounds saying that the jewish religion, the muslim faith prohibits this kind of idea that life begins at conception. >> it's a very capitalist, fundamentalist idea. >> this court believes in that. always great, thank, you we appreciate you. we'll be right back. k. ease now. parodontax toothpaste... ...is 3x more effective at removing plaque bacteria, one of the main causes of bleeding gums. parodontax. the gum experts.

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