tennessee. the memorial magic is back. great play drawn up by the head coach. it's the best school in the country. it's the most fun city in the country ask you get s.e.c. sports on top of it. >> amazing, this has been quite a show today. i mean, think about it, former nato's sec gen and nancy mace. >> what else could you need? >> you don't need anything else. that does it for us this morning. josé diaz-balart picks up the coverage right now. >> good morning, 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific, i'm josé diaz-balart at nbc headquarters in new york. coming up this hour, as the number of people killed in the devastating earthquakes in turkey and syria rise, we're seeing miracles overnight as rescuers pull several survivors out of the rubble. we're live at the epicenter in turkey. next hour, all senators will

get a briefing on china while members of congress are holding hearings demanding answers about the u.s. response to that spy balloon that floated across the u.s. we'll talk to congressman gregory meeks who attended a house briefing on the matter earlier this morning. president biden is back on the road today heading to a key battleground state to sell his agenda, and he's doubling down on accusations that some republicans want to cut medicare and social security. and migrant crossing borders are up. they're up 700%, but not through the southern border. we'll explain. >> we begin with devastating earthquakes in turkey and syria where the staggering death toll is now more than 19,000 as workers are going through ruins in hopes of finding more survivors. i want to warn you that the

following footage is disturbing, but it is the reality. the reality that people are facing today. right now dozens of unidentified bodies are laying out on the ground in a makeshift morgue in southern turkey next to an overwhelmed hospital. and we're seeing more scenes of utter tragedy. like these images of a turkish father gripping the hand of his 15-year-old daughter who was killed in the rubble. he's just too distraught to leave her. what parent could. we're also seeing incredible moments of hope, in that same turkish city a police officer old daughter found alive after being trapped for 80 hours. 80 hours under a collapsed seven-story building. there they are being taken out from the rubble. another stunning rescue in the same province today, a crowd of people formed a human chain to carry an elderly woman who survived under debris in freezing weather for days.

and a father was rescued just two hours after his daughter was pulled from the same rubble. he was only able to speak faintly in his stretcher but lit up when he learned that his daughter was alive. she was waiting for him at the hospital. nbc's gabe gutierrez is live from turkey at the quake's epicenter. gabe, what's the situation on the ground there, with every passing minute, second, hour, things get more and more difficult. >> reporter: jose, sadly this is among the most heartbreaking places in the world right now. we are inside this tent camp where, as you can see, there are displaced residents that are preparing for another long, cold night. the humanitarian aid that has been coming here continues to flow in, although there has been some problems. you can see hear, jose, these are space heaters, and just a few moments ago these were brought here, some of these residents came here and claimed

them. to give you an idea of one of the problems here, they don't have propane tanks and there's no power here at the camp. if my colleague david lum can walk with me here, and also if we can play some of the drone video that we shot a few hours ago that gives you an idea of the scope of this disaster and the frantic effort to house so many displaced residents. over in neighboring syria, there are more than 300,000 displaced residents. here in southeastern turkey, ten major cities have been affected by these earthquakes. you can see the more you walk, the more people you see here just clamoring for some sort of supplies. right now they've brought in a shipment of clothes and blankets. you've seen them strewn over there. they have bottled water here. there was a long line for food over there as well and jose, this is something we're seeing not just in this city, but

really in so many cities across southeastern turkey. in addition to the humanitarian response, jose, a piece of news today, the u.n. says that its first humanitarian aid convoy actually reached northwestern syria. it had been blocked until today. that is some piece of good news. as you said during the introduction, there are still many search and rescue operations underway. such tragic scenes and it's hard to make out, but if i -- david, my cameraman on the other side of this stadium, there is actually surrounding it, there are places that -- there are apartment buildings that are collapsed and there was some frustration that search and rescue teams, professional ones actually didn't arrive until today. they are still sadly pulling bodies and still hoping to find some people still trapped in the rubble. i'll leave you with one last point, jose. on the other side of these trucks, i think you mentioned it, there is a temporary morgue that is set up there. our team saw more than 50 bodies

piled there waiting to be claimed. it is just a desperate situation here as these residents, again, brace for another long, cold night well below freezing. >> and gabe, i have a few questions if i could with you. it's 6:05 in the afternoon. just give us an idea of what the temperatures that these folks are having to deal with because, you know, there is still certainly some hope that some people could be alive under the rubble, but with the cold temperatures and the passing of the hours that makes it more difficult. what are the temperatures like there? >> reporter: jose, i spoke with a rescue worker yesterday who said, look, it is possible that there could be some people found still in the rubble, after five days after these earthquakes. at least that was the hope from some of these rescuers, but yes, we just showed -- because i don't think you can see these pictures enough, these people, again, they are waiting for

supplies, and they are bracing for temperatures well below freezing. we're talking, you know, fahrenheit with the windchill, it feels in the teens. that's what we were feeling yesterday, not quite that cold just yet, but the temperatures are dropping. it was a little warmer today during the day than it was yesterday, but yes, if you can imagine it's almost unthinkable, someone that was trapped underneath that rubble that they even managed to survive these three days. some of them have done so, and some of the people we've been speaking with today are still holding out that hope that perhaps there might be some pocket of air that they were able to get them water somehow if these rescue teams are able to hear. that is something that me and my colleagues have been here witnessing these search and rescue efforts. it happens after these earthquakes, but just the scale of this that it happens in city after city in multiple locations. they pause for minutes at a time and try to listen to any sound, any sign of life underneath that rubble, and that is continuing

as we speak well into the night. >> and gabe, another just a question, you know, where you are there's clearly a lot of, you know, help, but is there the mexican volunteers that are so experienced in going through rubble, have the folks from spain, from the united states, are they on scene there? are they there? have you seen international help in the places where help is needed the most? >> reporter: there has been international help in this town. we saw an israeli search and rescue team. there are teams from other countries. when we were traveling here from, you know, to turkey, we saw a french team in istanbul, the u.s. search and rescue teams, one from l.a., the other one from fairfax, virginia. they are here on the ground in southeastern turkey. they are on the move making their way to another one of the towns here. so yes, there is a huge

international contingency, jose. but again, i return to the fact that this death toll keeps rising, and that's because this is so widespread. the scale of this destruction, not even the turkish government or these international search and rescue organizations, they just can't seem to keep up with the demand for how many buildings have collapsed here and how much rubble they have to sift through. again, the residents that we spoke with in the apartment building that just collapsed, i'm looking at it right now just across from the stadium, they're frustrated. >> yeah, we just lost -- gabe, i just lost your audio, gabe, but i thank you for that. and international help is there, but so much more is needed. if you want to help the people affected by the earthquake, we've posted a link to our twitter page, jjdbalart, msnbc.

i believe in miracles because i've seen them happen. in the mexican earthquake of 1985, they were finding little kids buried under rubble 11 and 16 days after those earthquakes. but it's just with every passing minute it's more and more difficult. if you can check it out on twitter, there's places that you can help. here at home we're getting brand new information about china's surveillance balloon fleet, a senior state department official says the equivalent and the equipment on board the balloon that flew over the u.s. before being shot down is specifically for intelligence surveillance and inconsistent with equipment onboard weather balloons. the balloon also had multiple antennas. it was equipped with solar panels large enough to produce the power needed to operate multiple intelligence collection sensors. this comes as the controversy surrounding the balloon is taking center stage right there on capitol hill. next hour, administration

officials will brief all senators on the situation. house members got a briefing on the incident earlier this morning. right now the senate foreign relations committee is holding a hearing taking a closer look at u.s. policy toward china, and in just a couple minutes a senate appropriations subcommittee will hold a hearing to demand answer from the biden administration about that balloon. of course we'll bring you any major developments. all this comes as the navy is working to recover the remnants of that balloon from the atlantic ocean off the south carolina coast and one day after president biden talked with the pbs news hour about his order to shoot it down. >> i told the military i wanted to shoot it down when it was safe to do it. they said it was unsafe to do it over land. they said they could learn a lot in the meantime by watching it go across the country. as soon as they had a chance to shoot it down over water, they did and they recovered major pieces of it, to determine if we

could garner anything. >> nbc news correspondent marissa para in myrtle beach, south carolina, and nbc news washington correspondent yamiche al sin dor. how do they hope the biden administration will respond to the balloon incident? >> you're seeing all of the different hearings already that you laid out. we're keeping eyes on all of them, and we need a lot of eyes to do that because this is really the season where lawmakers are starting to get their questions answered on this, both in more public forums where they're going to be able to do hearings and briefings with administration officials but also behind closed doors in a classified nature, you're right that the house did that this morning. the senate will also do that later today. these are the briefings that lawmakers have been clamoring for as they try to get more information on this specific situation. the details that you just laid out in terms of what was on that balloon, what was able to be recovered and also the broader national security issues are

going to be important as lawmakers try to press forward on how the u.s. relations with china will go forward from this point. in the house today we're going to see them offer a condemnation of china for this surveillance balloon flying over the united states. it's likely that they're expecting overwhelming support there in the house. and look, there's no teeth to that. it's a condemnation, a rebuke, not surprising especially when we've seen one of the few bipartisan points in this congress amid divided government has been on china and taking a stronger posture there. >> and lawmakers are hoping to get what out of today's briefings and many hearings? >> reporter: look, it's more information. that is always at this point what they're asking for because, again, it's the short-term and the long-term on this, jose. in the short-term we know the balloon is shot down and they are recovering it. we watched in realtime as republicans were critical of the president's decision to wait for it to be over open water,

although everyone ultimately agrees that that was the right decision. you saw president biden with pbs explaining the decision-making process on that. in the longer term, i think it's going to be interesting to see the ways that the house select committee on china, for example, uses this and pivots off of it from a policy making perspective. again, the posture here in congress is in bipartisan fashion positive for taking a stronger stance against china. notably it wasn't one of the focal points of the state of the union. certainly it was mentioned earlier this week. this is going to be one of the few places i think that we could see actual bipartisan movement on a foreign policy front from congress both in hearings nature and then also potentially from a policy perspective. >> how much of an impact is the pushback from some republicans on capitol hill, how the administration is dealing with the situation? >> it's a key question because what allie just said is this is partly bipartisan. so you haven't just heard republicans asking questions, you've heard democrats asking

questions including jon tester who said he's going to be pushing the biden administration for more answers. he wants real answers and ptss to know how to prevent this. i don't know that the biden administration is going to be moved by backlash. when you talk to white house officials they're saying at the end of the day, the president wanted to make sure that the country was safe. he wanted to make sure that he was listening to his intelligence officials, that it was safest to do it over water. that being said this is really in some ways a call for transparency for the biden administration, and as a result you're seeing the biden administration wanting to put out more information. you're seeing pent gone officials go to the podium and talk about this because americans have a lot of questions here. so republicans sort of being the people that are criticizing them, they're going to be criticizing the biden administration for a number of things. i don't know that that's driving anything in the white house or in the decision-making, but it is in some ways with this bipartisan hearing, these bipartisan hearings that that is something that is really weighing a little bit on the white house and making sure that they're providing answers to officials and americans. >> there are a lot of questions

about that balloon. joining us now is nbc's dan da lose, what can you tell us about what we're learning about that balloon? sfwr interesting new details being shared by the biden administration. we knew that there were u-2 spy planes that flew over the balloon to try to collect information about it. what they found through high resolution photographs is that this balloon had the ability to eavesdrop. it had signals intelligence capability and that is one detail that's now emerged. they're confirming that on the record now. also that this was a program directed by the chinese military. so it was an explicit military program according to the biden administration, and also that the manufacturer of the balloons is basically a company in the defense industry in china. so very much part of the military defense complex in china.

and also, officials are indicating they're going to be sharing more information about the program, more details when they're -- i think there's some challenge in declassifying some of the intelligence about the program. the other thing is there are still major questions, though, that have not been answered, which is who knew what when, and why was it that the military and the intelligence agencies, it really took them literally years to figure out that these, you know, vehicles flying into the air space were indeed chinese balloons. >> marissa, what's the latest on the remains of that balloon and the efforts to pick it up? >> reporter: yeah, that effort is very much still underway, jose. we're outside of what is normally a public docking area, and it has transformed into an operations hub, if you will, for the navy and the coast guard. our crews have watched as their crews have been suiting up and launching towards the ocean in that direction to try to gather

that debris. we know that the navy has released some photos of some of what they've recovered, and in those photos you can see what looks like a tangles mess of balloon debris being pulled obt onto the boats there. they're searching in a ten-mile nautical radius. this balloon was about 200 feet tall, thousands of pounds. they have a navy ship that's primarily being used to collect and categorize the debris, and then they have another ship that has sonar abilities to quite literally map out the bottom of the ocean, which in some parts is about 45 feet deep. initially the size of the debris field, more than 15 football fields by 15 football fields. one of the big questions, obviously is what exactly have they recovered so far? we know the debris is being analyzed, and secretary blinken said they will share the relevant findings with congress. so far the weather does seem to be cooperating in the search, which as we are talking about is still going on as we speak.

>> thank you so much for being with us this morning. still ahead, ukraine's president is continuing his european tour asking world leaders for more help fighting russian forces. what he told europe's parliament just hours ago. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports" this morning from new york. diaz-bala morning from new york.

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. 22 past the hour. this morning president biden is continuing his post-state of the union tour heading to tampa,

florida, where he will speak later this afternoon. biden was in madison, wisconsin, wednesday looking to build support for his economic plan in a state he carried by just 21,000 votes in the last election. and in a new interview, biden was asked whether his age gave him any concerns about running for re-election. >> every indication you're running for re-election, you haven't announced yet. democrats, though, as you -- i'm sure you know are saying we wonder about his age. you'd be 82 the date of the next election, 86 if you're successful and elected and finish that term. does it give you any concern? >> watch me. i haven't made that decision. that's my intention, i think, but i haven't made that decision firmly yet. >> joining us now is nbc's carol lee. carol, good morning, what can we expect from the president's event later today? >> reporter: you can expect, jose, that the president's going to continue talking about those themes that we heard from him in

his state of the union address on tuesday. he focused on jobs. in a trip to wisconsin yesterday. and today in florida will really be focused on medicare and social security and the idea that the president has put out there that republicans are going to try to cut those benefits. florida is a state with a lot of seniors. it's also home to the senator rick scott who the president points to as putting forward a proposal that would cut social security and medicare specifically in that proposal it calls for federal legislation, all federal legislation to be revoted on after five years, so the legislation would sunset, and then congress would have to reauthorize it according to that proposal. now, rick scot says that that's not -- the president's being disingenuous here, he's not going to cut medicare and social security. we heard that from a number of republicans, but the president likes this issue. it's an issue that he feels was one of his strongest ones from the white house's perspective during that state of the union speech, and so he's going to

continue to hit on that. and also worth noing as you played there, 2024 hanging over this trip. it is home to two declared candidates, former president trump and one potential candidate, governor ron desantis. there's a little shadow boxing going on here in florida that you'll see from the president. at the same time, the president's handling of classified documents is under new scrutiny. that investigation by the special counsel also in that interview that he did with pbs's judy woodruff, the president was asked about those classified documents and take a listen to what he had to say. >> one of the things that happened is that what was not done well is as they packed up my offices to move them, they didn't do the kind of job that should have been done to thoroughly through every single piece of literature that's there. but i just thought the

investigation, you know, decides what's going on and we'll see what happens. >> reporter: so the president's tone there, jose, not taking responsibility in the way that perhaps we saw former vice president mike pence do when classified documents were found in his home in indiana, really putting the blame there on some of those aides who packed him up as he left the vice pit -- vice presidency in 2016. disney announced a major wave of layoffs saying it will cut 7,000 jobs or about 3% of its global work force. joining us now is cnbc's julia boorstin. good morning. this morning disney's ceo bob iger spoke with cnbc. >> he talked a lot about the restructuring he's putting into place and a big focus on profitability. the 7,000 layoffs come as the company focuses particularly on making its streaming business profitable, but he restructured the company into three divisions. one is the entertainment

division. this is television, movies, all the content that both goes direct to consumer and out in movie theaters and on television. and the streaming business is part of that. the second business is espn including espn plus and other sports, and the third business is the parks resorts, consumer products and also experiences. and so that's going to be run separately. and the idea here is that now they really need to figure out how to put the content in the right place for that content, and they also really want to put the control back in the hands of the creatives, and he talked about the importance of focusing on profitability and for the streaming business it's not just about growing subscribers but doing so in a profitable way thinking very strategically about how much content they're making, what type of content and allowing the people who are making the content to be the ones that decide how it's distributed. >> thank you so much. we are monitoring two senate hearings on china.

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31 past the hour, this morning, kyiv was rocked by an explosion at a former factory leaving people potentially trapped under the rubble, according to the city's mayor. at least one person was killed. meanwhile, president zelenskyy continued his diplomatic push as he addressed the european parliament this morning a day after making a surprise trip to london. with just two weeks until the first anniversary of russia's full-scale invasion, zelenskyy continued to press european leaders for more military aid. joining us now from kharkiv, ukraine, is nbc's raf sanchez. what more can you tell us about zelenskyy's latest diplomatic push? >> reporter: jose, london, paris, and then brussels, president zelenskyy had a consistent message in each, give ukraine fighter aircraft. wings for freedom he likes to call them. he is calling on the europeans, on the nato allies to do more, to provide more, that request coming just weeks after germany

announced that it would send tanks to ukraine. now, he did get a firm commitment from the british that they would train ukrainian air force pilots, what he did not get is a commitment that the british would also providing fighter jets, but downing street has said they will investigate whether there are aircraft within the royal air force's stock that could be provided to ukraine. now, jose, we went yesterday e to the city of izum, about 50 miles or so southeast of where we are now in kharkiv. this is a city that was occupied for six months last year by the russians. it was liberated by ukrainian forces in september, and it is a city that's seen more than its fair share of horror over the last year or so. an investigation by human rights watch found that as ukrainian forces were advancing on the city to liberate it from the russians, they fired thousands and thousands of antipersonnel

mines all over the city. now, we met a young girl yesterday, her name is maria. she's 14 years old. she and six of her friends were injured by one of those land mines. you can see her on the screen there. were injured by one of those land mines. human rights watch says based on the location where that mine came from, they suspect that that was, in fact, a ukrainian mine that injured those ukrainian children. now, ukraine's foreign ministry says they abide by the rules of international humanitarian law, and we should certainly say, jose, of the two sides here, russia is not only the aggressor in this conflict, but they are certainly accused of far more widespread war crimes over the course of this war. also in izum mass graves were found when ukrainian forces liberated the city last year. we watched as families buried some of their loved ones from those mass graves yesterday. jose. >> raf sanchez, thank you. and joining us now, new york

congressman gregory meeks, the top democrat on the house foreign affairs committee. congressman, i can't thank you enough for your time. i know it's been a busy day for you. ukraine's president is leaving his latest trip with a commitment from the british to train ukrainian pilots, perhaps send some fighter jets to ukraine? should the u.s. be thinking about that possible action as well? >> well, i think that we've got to continue to make sure that ukraine has what it needs to win, and so as this war of putin's continues to escalate, as we've done, you know, up to this date, it's to continue to make sure with our allies we are getting them collectively what they need so they can defend themselves and ultimately win and stop the aggression of vladimir putin. >> what more should the u.s. be doing to support ukraine in your view? >> i think that we've got to do two things, number one, the money that we've appropriated

for 2023. we've got to always look to see where we need to fill gaps, you know, because you have both the military equipment that has to go there as well as the humanitarian concerns because i have a lot, you know, where there's territory that has been retaken by the ukrainians that now there should be some focus to make sure that they are secured and that infrastructure's put in, so we've got to do that part. but also, watch and continue to make sure that on a collective basis working with our allies, that whether you're talking about the leopard tanks that the germans just put in or the tanks that the americans just put in, there's been this kind of continued working together because what vladimir putin never thought would happen would be that our european allies, allies, in fact, across the world, would stay together. he thought that they could divide us. this is where i think it's going to be the key to victory for ukraine. >> i want to turn to the

situation involving that chinese surveillance balloon. we understand house members got a briefing on the situation this morning. what'd you take away from that briefing? >> well, i take away, i tell you what has been out in the public domain because i can't talk about specifically what was said there, that the sovereignty first of the united states of america was violated by this balloon. but it was never the people of the united states, the citizens of the united states were never in danger. there was not any danger of any harm happening to the people of the united states and that we probably learned more from taking it down over the atlantic ocean than we would have otherwise in that we're working collectively with our allies, again, in the region. you know that the balloon first came over canada, for example, and then went to south america. so there's dialogue and

conversation that's helping there, but i think that i can just say that the united states learned more than the chinese did. >> and congressman, you know, you talk about that balloon that clearly is not just a u.s. situation. as you say, it flew over canada as well, but china isn't just flying these balloons over, you know, the continental u.s. and north america, the biden administration says china has flown them over five continents. as a matter of fact, there was one just recently spotted in south america flying over colombia, the veezuelan government and cuban government have criticized the u.s. for shooting down the balloon. >> i think the united states sent a message to china if you invade our sovereignty, we'll shoot it down, you know. so that should be clear, and i think that working with our allies and learning about this program that the message should

go to china that we're going to stand together, and china ends up isolating itself. there's dialogues and conversations that are moving forward so that these surveillance balloons do not continue to have access to sovereign nations like the united states, like canada. we know it's gone over as you've indicated five continents. so it is a warning to china that we take these things seriously and if you violate our sovereignty, we will shoot it down. >> congressman gregory meeks, i thank you so much for being with us this morning. i appreciate your time. >> thank you for having me, jose. up next, how hundreds of migrants are taking a new route to cross into the united states. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports." with the money we saved, we tried electric unicycles. i think i've got it! doggy-paddle! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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seeing of folks crossing into the northern border? >> it is, jose. when you compare the data, if you look at the last three months of 2022 compared to the last three months of 2021, there was an uptick from 16,000 migrants crossing the northern border to 42,000 migrants crossing the northern border at the end of last year, and specifically in that area it's known as the swanton sector. that includes vermont, new hampshire, and new york sections of those states, they've seen more than 700% increase primarily led by mexicans. we were able to look at court documents and see how many of them are getting through. they fly in intercanada legally, usually through montreal or toronto and find their way across the border. they're still contacting smugglers, they're still making profits charging them a thousand dollars to get to the boarder and a thousand dollars to get them across. they are being stopped and they're telling these stories in

their court documents. we're figure out more about this path. it's really a desperate attempt as so many mexicans have been kept out of the country. they are the number one nationality that has been expelled under title 42. 60% of all title 42 expulsions were mexicans, and what's really troubling, jose, is that families are increasingly taking this route. we saw a picture of just a family with an 8-month-old baby and a 2-year-old, a toddler crossing in negative 4 degree temperatures just last week, actually just five days ago in that sector we were talking about. >> and nick, meanwhile, turning to your reporting, what is the possibility of a new deal to deport people back to mexico, non-mexicans? it sounds like it's been done before. >> well, as your viewers will remember, the united states has been returning migrants back across the border under the title 42 public health policy

that's been in place since the start of the pandemic. even before that, the u.s., the trump administration was returning some asylum seekers to mexico under the remain in mexico policy. what would be new would be actual formal deportations to mexico from the united states of non-mexicans, and we're seeing those negotiations take place because the biden administration is getting ready for the possible end of title 42, end of the public health restrictions this spring, and in order to -- what it says deliver the kinds of enforcement consequences it needs to establish more control over the border it's trying to negotiate the ability to carry out these deportations with -- to mexico. >> so looking at it from a 30,000 foot perspective, what is going on with the people that have been -- and we've seen it over the last year and a half or two years from venezuela, cuba,

nicaragua, haiti and of course the central american countries, how is that pattern looking? >> well, the biden administration last month announced this new program to dramatically expand the number of people who are going to be allowed in lawfully through a program it calls parole. that's up to 30,000 people person month from cuba, venezuela, nicaragua and haiti. at the same time, it's threatening -- it's worked out a deal with mexico to send back up to that many, up to 30,000 border crossers from those four countries under the title 42 public health policy. now, what we're reporting today is that the u.s. is also talking about mexico to be able to continue sending those people back, but as deportees. that would carry much more significant legal consequences for people who try to enter illegally, and really, what all of this amounts to is a pivot toward a clear kind of carrot

and stick approach from the biden administration on the one hand offering more legal opportunities for people to come and at the same time threatening pretty severe consequences for those who don't follow the rules. >> and so, julia, just what is the administration's thinking right now? is it this carrot and stick approach? if you get in through the border, if you're not part of the group that's being allowed in, are you going to be sent back every 30,000 plus a month, if you come in from cuba or haiti on a boat risking your life at sea and you're caught, you're sent back no questions asked. what's the policy now? >> yeah, i mean, i think that carrot and stick approach the way nick laid it out is accurate, but the way some immigration advocates would say is there are way too few carrots and way too many sticks. that these policies by and large will block more people than they allow in even though you might open up some more legal pathways, so many people would be blocked from seeking asylum when they come into the country.

and they could be challenged in court just like we've seen similar policies be challenged in the past. >> julia ainsley and nick miroff, i thank you both for being with us this morning. we just learned that legendary song writer burt bacharach has died. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports." p art reports.

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52 past the hour. we have just learned legendary songwriter and composer burt bacharach is dead at the age of 94. his publicist told the associated press he died wednesday at his home in los angeles of natural causes. nbc's gadi schwartz looks back at his life and legacy. ♪♪ >> reporter: burt bacharach's greatest gift may have been knowing exactly what we needed to hear. ♪ what the world needs now is love sweet love ♪ >> but as a kid, he had no dreams of becoming a musician. >> i remember playing a recital, i think i had to play and i blew it. did i think i had any talent? no. >> reporter: still his mother insisted on piano lessons in practice until one night she gave up. >> you want to stop?

stop. i've run out of patience, you know, it is your choice. >> reporter: but guilt over disappointing his mother took hold and ultimately helped propel bacharach to more than 50 years of hits. ♪ that's what friends are for ♪ ♪ wishing and hoping ♪ ♪ do you know the way to ♪ >> reporter: living in new york city, he met hal davis, a lyricist who used words to make his melodies soar. their discovery of a young dionne warwick took the duo to the top of the charts, again and again. ♪ walk on by ♪ >> reporter: soon, hollywood was enchanted and so was the actress who had become his second wife, angie dickinson. ♪ rain drops are falling on my head they keep falling ♪ >> reporter: the score from butch cassidy and the sun dance kid earned him an oscar in 1970. and over the years, hollywood kept calling.

♪ forever and ever that's how we are meant to be ♪ ♪ without you would only be heart break for me ♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, mr. burt bacharach. ♪ what the world needs now ♪ >> reporter: music so iconic -- ♪ how can i forget you girl ♪ >> reporter: it has been remade across every genre, from '80s pop to samples of the hits popping up on hip-hop. ♪ they call me logic ♪ >> reporter: he spent his final years at home in california with his fourth wife, jane hanson. >> mr. burt bacharach! >> reporter: leaving behind an unforgettable catalog of music that will always remind us of its maestro. ♪ always something there to remind me ♪ >> reporter: gadi schwartz, nbc news. >> that wraps up the hour for me. i'm "jose diaz-balart reports." you can reach me on twitter and instagram and watch highlights from today's show online at

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