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several stories unfolding as we come on the air live from washington. gnu details on that supply balloon. and time running out overseas. let's start with what's up first, the state department confirms that chinese balloon was capable of collecting intel with congress now getting public and private briefings on the whole thing. we have our team live at the pentagon and capitol hill with where this goes next. police sharing new information about an assault on a member of congress. what we're learning about what happened to democrat angie craig, and whether politics

played a role. the new info just in from capitol police in a minute. the chances of finding survivors of the deadly earthquakes are beginning to shrink and shrink quickly with more than 20,000 people now killed. we are live on the ground with what's happening around the clock. we'll take you there in just a second. i'm hallie jackson in washington, along with dan de luce, our nbc news national affairs reporter at the pentagon. ali vitale, live on capitol hill. a lot going on, help us mick make sense of this and what happens next year. there's a lot of new information today. >> the first briefing happened at 8:00 this morning for all house members. then of course we began the hearings at the senate foreign relations committee, and going forward into the appropriations and defense subcommittee, and then going to another house vote. this one unanimously condemning china for flying this balloon over the united states in the first place. and all of that, of course,

culminated in all senators getting their own classified briefing. coming out of that, we heard along mostly party lines, democrats being a little bit more muted in their criticism of the administration's handling of this. republicans continue to be critical of the way and process by which the white house handled this situation. listen. >> the administration acted correctly in how it dealt with the surveillance balloon. >> the biden administration had a chance to shoot it down over alaska, and they chose to let it spy across america. >> we need to tell them covertly or overtly like this, the next time you do that, we will shoot it down. >> reporter: a lot of those people who you saw there being critical were critical throughout the entire time that the balloon was being considered whether they should shoot it down as it across the country or wait until it was over open waters. several of the lawmakers who

were asking questions, specifically people like jon tester of montana, lisa murkowski of alaska, they were pointed in the questions they were asking of administration officials, and you could see there was clear frustration both over how this was handled and over the lack of transparency from the administration. officials were able to be more forthcoming behind closed doors in a classified nature with lawmakers. several emerged said there should be levels of transparency on this circumstance and what happens on a circumstance like this going forward. >> thank you. let me go to you. nbc news was the first to report the plane fly byes the u.s. used to get pictures of the balloon. we're getting details of what the pictures show us, including multiple antennas used for collecting signals. talk about the state department, the clarification we have been getting on the air saying they have seen nothing now that would contradict the government, the

state department's assessment of what this balloon was used for. that had been a bit of a question after that initial fbi briefing that we're getting clarity on? >> so the fbi is beginning to sift through some of this debris that's been extracted out of the water off south carolina, but much of the evidence is still under water but they said that's right, whatever they have seen so far including pieces of the balloon very much is consistent with the balloon being some kind of a surveillance airship. now, the state department today give us some more details. they said that supply planes took high resolution photos of that balloon, eves dropping and picking up radio signals, multiple antennas, attached to the balloon, and solar panels that generated enough power, saying all the spying equipment could work. they also said this balloon is part of a program operated by the chinese military, and that the manufacturer of the balloon is basically part of the chinese defense industry, and is an

approved vendor for the people's liberation army. they're saying they're looking at ways to possibly target any organizations that help make this balloon program possible. there's also hinting that they're going to expose more details of the program and offer more information to possibly make it even more uncomfortable for china, trying to explain it as some kind of a weather balloon. >> dan de luce live with those details. thank you very much, appreciate it. another hearing on the hill that we are watching today, this one happening right now, led by a house subcommittee, they're looking into, i'm quoting them here, the weaponization of the federal government. they're looking at how the white house, doj, fbi collects information and runs investigations, specifically into conservatives with chair jim jordan kicking the whole thing off this afternoon with a long list of accusations against the fbi. he has sent out a long list of subpoenas and his democratic counter part, vice chair stacy

plaskett saying let's slow down, let's pump the brakes here, watch. >> i have never seen anything like this. dozens and dozens of whistle blowers, fbi agents coming to us, talking about what's going on at the justice department. >> a rush to accusations and subpoenas without a factual basis and without any effort to engage with agencies through the accommodation process flies in the face of due process. >> i want to bring in nbc news congressional correspondent and jake sherman, punch bowl and msnbc contributor. julie, the subcommittee got its origins as a concession from speaker mccarthy to his conservative members. give us the vibe check on today's hearing. what are they trying to do? what are they going to do next? >> reporter: the vibe check is quite frankly, democrats and republicans are running two separate hearings. republicans are basically going through the laundry list, using their witnesses, the star witnesses being two sitting

senators, chuck grassley and ron johnson who have spearheaded these investigations into hunter biden, into the russia probe, kind of working backwards investigating what has already been investigated, and essentially trying to prove that the federal government is out to get conservatives. in their words, is weaponized against the american people. on the flip side, you have democrats led there by stacy plaskett saying, look, you're the reason this committee is being weaponized. if anything, you are weaponizing the federal government, which is very dangerous for the american people. i want you to take a listen to what jamie raskin had to say, remember, he was a member o. january 6th committee, he was part of the impeachment trials of former donald trump, and he was called by democrats today to be one of their witnesses, and this is the message he had. >> your subcommittee could become part of a proud history of serious bipartisan oversight stretching from the teapot dome investigation to the boeing investigation, to the water gate hearings, to the tobacco

hearings, to the select committee on the january 6th attack. or it could take oversight down a very dark alley, filled with conspiracy theories and disinformation. >> reporter: now, hallie, plaskett also got into a tense, heated exchange there with jim jordan who's the chair of the panel saying you get more flies with honey than vinegar, but vinegar sounds better in tweets, calling him out for bypassing normal processes you laid out in the top, and the justice department responding to jim jordan's slew of subpoena requests to the education secretary saying this is premature. we will comply in an orderly fashion, pushing back against him, but boy is this a preview of what's to come with a wide range of topics from covid to hunter biden, to the russia probe, to everything you can imagine the last six years. i should note by the way tulsi gabbard, the former democratic candidate, now paid fox news down playing claims that she was

a russian agent, spouted by hillary clinton, and mitt romney on both sides of the aisle. a ton of hearings in this hearing today. >> julie, thank you very much. jake, let's go to you. your team is reporting on the weaponization hearing. investigating the executive branch. it's hunter biden what you see on your screen, border security, covid, the classified documents investigation, et cetera, how do you read, give us the 30,000 foot view. how do you read today's hearing, fitting into the bigger picture? >> the larger question here, hallie, there's two kind of risks here for house republicans. number one, some of the threads that this committee is pulling on are pretty obscure and obtuse. what the january 6th committee did a very good job on was they took a narrative that everybody

understood and made it access to people. that's what the committee has to do. not everybody is knee deep on twitter and some of the other dark corners of the internet where conspiracy theories live. that's challenge number one. challenge number two for house republicans, people by and large care about the economy. they care about health care. they care about a whole host of things that have nothing to do with the weaponization of the federal government. now, that's not to say they won't come up with important things. they might. they might not. that's the challenge for republicans writ large. they seem like they are obsessed with investigations. jim jordan has the judiciary committee and the subcommittee. he is the most powerful chairman i have seen with a huge in my time covering congress. a massive operation aimed at digging into all sorts of things from the border to hunter biden, to the fbi, to doj, so it's just a very wide swath of things. those are the two general

challenges, i think, hallie, as they proceed down this path. >> jake sherman from punch bowl, great to see you. president biden in the backyard today of two florida men and likely 2024 rivals as he's pushing to protect social security and medicare. why that is becoming sort of a huge issue, the first real big issue of the 2024 race coming up. and new polling on the race for the republican nomination, inside the growing split between former president trump and ron desantis, with new info of who's hopping on the trump train today. first, we're going to take you overseas to the just staggering and horrific number of deaths in turkey and syria. the number of people killed continuing to go up, above 20,000, our team is on the ground with an update in just 60 seconds. h an update in just 60 seconds.

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world health organization warning of a secondary disaster maybe on the way. it could be more dangerous than the devastating earthquakes in turkey and syria, talking about hundreds of thousands of people living in camps that have just popped up where there's real concern about people getting sick from the water, from potentially unsanitary conditions, especially kids, right. they're trying to get these survivors of these earthquakes food and water and the basic things they need to live. there's so much disrupted. right now, more than 20,000 deaths have been confirmed from these earthquakes. keep in mind in syria, search and rescue teams have only been able to get about 5% of the reported sites affected by the earthquakes, according to the u.n., civil war, power outages, lack of heavy machinery, all making it harder to get to people in need, as the window to find survivors is closing, fairly quickly. four days later now, after the earthquakes hit. in turkey, search teams are arriving from all over the world, including an elite squad of u.s. search personnel trying

to save lives. we want to start with kelly cobiella who's on the ground in one of the hardest hit cities near the epicenter. this has become a huge operation, not just the rescue part of it, which is first and foremost, but also providing for the people who did survive making sure they are okay and will be okay. tell us what you're seeing. >> reporter: when you're talking about the rescue, hallie, you're talking about 100,000 rescue personnel, the professionals, the teams in the states and other countries around the world, and here in turkey, and volunteers. not just here in turkey but also in syria, where they're facing an even more dire situation than they are here. sadly. but those 100,000 are still finding people tonight. we're past that 72-hour critical window since the quake hit. that's kind of the time frame when experts say people have a chance of surviving. beyond that, the chances

diminish really really quickly. the good news is they're still pulling people out of the rubble tonight, and working feverishly through the night. what happens next, that's the big question because you have right now in the towns that we have been to, you have people living out in the open. you have more than 5,000 homes and buildings completely destroyed, countless more are damaged. people don't know how many are damaged because they're looking up at their homes, seeing a crack, and they're terrified to go in. it's obviously far too early to do any sort of checks like that. people are living outside, in the cold, in below 30-degree temperatures at night. they're lighting fires to stay warm because in a lot of these areas, there's no electricity, there's no gas for heating. in some cases, there's no running water. and then, you look at the numbers of people who have actually made it to some sort of

shelter, 300,000, more than 300 000 according to the turkish government. tent cities are starting to pop up here. mosques stadium, shelters that the government has accomplished, and you have a situation where some people, quite a large number of people have been moved out of the area already, some 28,000 people robbery evacuated from the disaster zone to live in temporary accommodation, and in some cases hotels on the coast in these big tourist areas. once you move beyond the first few days of really getting people a little bit sorted, all of these people need food, shelter, warm clothes, they need blankets. all of that aid has to be provided, and you have people mixed into the population, syrian refugees, and a huge

number of syrian refugees, 3.2 million in this country, in turkey. a lot of them are still down here close to the border. in fact, the family is living outside behind me in this tent. they're from syria. they're children. some of them were born here, and they say they have no place left to go. this is going to be a huge problem with internally displaced people inside turkey moving forward. >> kelly cobiella, thank you for that reporting. matt, let me turn to you, and matt, you were there when this usa team arrived in the town where you are. talk about that conversation, what they're doing now, the situation tonight? >> reporter: that's right, they showed up. there were teams of them, mostly from los angeles and from fairfax county, virginia. these two teams that are highly trained and the reason why is they have a long standing relationship with usa id and the state department. they maintain this high level of training so they can be deployed

abroad, and they regularly are. i spoke with the lead of the usa id delegation here, and i asked him what he brings to the table that the turks don't have, and one of the things that was clear is they have an unsophisticated, but crucial tool. a couple of dogs. here's what he told me. >> when they bring the dog in, it will sniff around, very well trained, knows what to look for. if it responds to the handler, there's a possible proof of life. they will mark that down as a positive hit. >> the dog can distinguish between a dead body and a living person. >> that's right. >> and i should tell you, hallie, the turks do have dogs, but their k-9 squad is much smaller. it's kind of hard to imagine that in wreckage like this, three days later. well more than three days later you would find people who are alive, and to kelly's point, we actually did just a couple of hours ago, we saw a middle-aged

man getting unearthed from wreckage that looked just like that, and this is an ordinary man, he was asleep in his bed, who just accomplished an extraordinary feat of endurance, just simply by surviving for na long without food, without water, probably with grave injuries, and enduring sub zero temperatures, again, for three nightings. -- nights. it was incredible and emotional to watch. >> what is behind you? we're watching the scene, people walking by, whatever is left of the building there. can you give us a sense of the neighborhood where you are? >> reporter: this whole town is a disaster zone. it's other wordily. there are people warming themselves by open fires in the streets. this is clearly a modern city filled with high-rise buildings, well-maintained roads, all of

that has been torn up by this horrific earthquake. buildings like this one, you can see a couple of them, some of them must have been built with shoddier construction, because other buildings behind me that you can't see, seem to be in almost perfect condition. what kelly was saying, a lot of folks are afraid to go in the buildings because they don't know if they could also be destroyed, fall down. as you can hear, we're still hearing around and around again, just emergency vehicles up and down the main boulevard all day and night, it's a constant cacophony of public crying and mourning when bodies were taken ouch these buildings, when aid or blankets distributed, we see people crowding trying to get access or blankets or food so they can give them to their families, and again, just smoke filling the atmosphere here. because nobody has heat.

nobody has really electricity. so they're all warming themselves by these open fires that they have all just built all along the sides of the road. just to give you a sense of what's going on here. and of course the massive cranes and earth movers, all working all day long, all night long, trying desperately to find living people because they believe they can and as we saw, they have found people alive. that gives an urgency to this effort. hallie. >> matt bradley, live on the ground in turkey. thank you very much, appreciate it. we'll bring you back home to washington with a disturbing story with police investigating why angie craig was attacked in her d.c. apartment building today. and former president trump and ron desantis, interesting new polling on where this race stands, coming up. inon where the stands, coming up. 's disease. now, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are looking up ♪ ♪ i've got symptom relief ♪

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some disturbing news out of washington here, with word that congresswoman angie craig has been attacked in the elevator of her apartment building. her office says she's physically okay, just dealing with bruises. she was able to defend herself and call 911. she threw coffee on the person who was going after her. our team has gotten the police report in the last hour. the attacker was acting erratic as if he was under the influence of an unknown substance.

i want to bring in ryan nobles. fill us in, i believe you have heard from capitol police on this, too. >> that's right, hallie, and you're right that congresswoman craig appears to be okay, at least physically after this attack, in fact, we spotted her in the halls of congress today. she was already back on the job after what happened, so that is definitely a good sign, and you're right, according to what the capitol police are telling us, they do not believe at this point that this was a politically motivated attack, but it is worth pointing out that at this point, the suspect has not been apprehended by metropolitan police or the capitol police. this is someone they're describing as homeless, who found his way into the elevator with congresswoman craig, punched her in the chin and grabbed they are around the neck. she was able to fend him off by throwing hot coffee on him, and then he took off, got out of the elevator and ran. she called 911. but they were unable to apprehend him. the capitol police say that they

are still investigating this situation. police that responded at the scene did canvas the area in search of the individual, but were not able to locate him. but, again, the most important news right now is that at least physically, congresswoman craig is doing okay, back on the job today, as police continue to investigate this incident. hallie. >> ryan nobles, live for us on the hill. thank you. >> let's take you to florida now where there is a lot of action in the sort of world of presidential politics. president biden is wrapping up a quick trip to tampa. he was speaking just in the last hour again on social security and medicare saying he will, unsurprisingly, he is going to veto any cuts to those programs, if that were to ever make it to his desk. it comes after he's been calling out republicans all week for as he says, trying to plot to cut funding to social security and medicare to reduce the national debt. however, you've got republicans pushing back on that, right. a lot of them were saying that's not the party platform. senator rick scott who, you remember, initially floated this

idea before walking away from it, tweeted earlier, challenging the president to a debate on all of this while he was in town. that didn't happen. let's bring in nbc news white house continue mike memoli. if rick scott ends up the presidential nominee for the republican party, perhaps we'll get the social security medicare debate. it's not going to happen today. this is interesting, this is the first big issue of the 2024 race. even though it's from somebody who's not a 2024 candidate officially yet, and the other guy kind of agrees with joe biden on this one. walk us through the interesting political dynamics. >> yeah, hallie, i mean, obviously this was the big standout moment from the state of the union address on tuesday when president biden, without naming rick scott held up his plan to sunset all federal legislation including these retirement programs every five years, the howells from republicans saying we don't agree with that, and so today, here in rick scott's backyard, president biden essentially said this, all right, maybe you don't agree with rick scott's

particular way of undermining the president's view of social security, and medicare, but many, many, many republicans have put their votes, have put their voice behind other versions of legislative or theoretical proposals that would do much the same. we, for instance, are hearing from the dnc, from the white house, listing all of the ways in which people like mike pence, the former vice president, talked about needs for reforms in social security and medicare, and ron desantis, of course governor of florida but a former member of congress has voted for budget proposals that would change the retirement age or lead to cuts in social security and medicare. this was really saying, okay, maybe it's not the rick scott plan, you're all on record, and president biden then had an answer for those calls. take a listen. >> i know that a lot of republicans, their dream is to cut social security and medicare. let me say this. if that's your dream, i'm your nightmare.

if anyone tries to cut social security, we're going to stop it. if anyone tries to cut medicare, we're going to stop it. >> reporter: and then, the president broadened this beyond just retirement programs to say, you know, republicans including the speaker of the house, kevin mccarthy have called for the repealing the inflation reduction act. that will lead to higher drug costs. as he took aim at desantis, he could have expanded medicaid, but chose not to do so. the president thinks retirement programs, but health care more broadly is a big winning issue, especially here in florida. it's a state he lost by 3.36% of the vote in 2020, but he noted there are a lot of retirees, seniors, this is an event eyeing for fighting for this state in 2024. >> mike memoli, on the road for us the last couple of days. come home, appreciate it. president biden in florida, perhaps as memorily lays out, laying the foundation for his

reelection campaign. there's new polling giving us an updated look at his potential rivals on the republican side. ron desantis who is not even in the race, not officially a candidate, hasn't said whether he intends to run. he's leading former president trump among republicans by 13 points, 53-40%. the numbers from monmouth university come on the heels of other polls showing desantis in the lead. it seems like donald trump who has looked at a poll over two is aware of the dynamics, stepping up attacks on desantis, calling him a republican in name only, a rhino, a globalist and more. senior political editor, mark murray is joining us now. this is coming an interesting time, a time where there's a lot of chatter about who's joining which camp, putting their foot on the ground for whichever candidate might come up. nicky haley is out in early

states and you have desantis and donald trump, and talk about this new poll and the caveats, especially this early in the cycle. >> let's start with the caveats, one, it is so early. we don't know what this bill is going to look like. when you do a head-to-head match up, that's not how our primary system works. it goes from state to state, iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, nevada, and it will be more than just two people. it will be more than donald trump and most likely ron desantis. and so, but putting all of those caveats aside, it is notable that while desantis in this one poll has a 13 point lead in a head-to-head match up against president donald trump, the race gets closer when you break it down to strong republicans. it also ends up getting closer when you break it down to evangelicals. also, when you end up looking at the favorable and unfavorable ratings, desantis starts out at a high ceiling.

versus 6% very unfavorable. that's better than donald trump's but also worth noting that once you get to that campaign season, hallie, you know this very well, we start seeing the negative tv ads, the back and forths, those favorable, unfavorable scores start it get much worse. it might look very nice for ron desantis right now, but once we get to that campaign slugging, all of those favorable numbers start coming down eventually. >> yeah, my executive producer is pointing out that everybody loves you until you're a candidate, and then that's when things really start to happen. there's this interesting new development that a name that may be familiar to some of our view es, jason miller, a former trump campaign adviser, senior adviser to the former president is back on the trump train, not that he ever officially left to be a current senior adviser as garrett haake points out who has confirmed this news.

it is a sign i alluded to earlier, where are they going to end up when the dust settles of the race of who's getting in, who's not, et cetera, et cetera. >> that's right, and of course, jason miller, his role, he played a role in the 2016 campaign for donald trump, also in 2020. he also ended up starring in the january 6th testimony during those subpoenas and one of the voices saying we told donald trump he ended up losing the 2020 election, that the outcome was pretty clear, and so jason miller going back on to the trump campaign, not surprising, but also really interesting given the january 6th committee revelations. >> mark murray great to see you. thank you so much, appreciate it. top folks from southwest airlines on the hill saying my bald after that epic holiday meltdown. what they're telling lawmakers they want to do now to prevent it from happening again. first, the second gentlemen, speaking in front of the u.n. and making a big push for a global effort to fight

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right now, at the united nations, second gentleman doug emhoff is calling for a global coalition. >> my message is my same message i carried throughout my trip to europe. we must all speak out against anti-semitism and call out those

who don't. silence is not an option. >> emhoff who's jewish has been taking the lead on the white house's push to fight anti-semitism, hosting a round table back in december, visiting germany and poland, including the former site of the auschwitz concentration camp on holocaust remembrance day. and that is getting more and more urgent with anti-semitic incidents hitting record highs here in this country recently, according to the antidefamation league. white house cara lee is monitoring all of that. she's joining us with more. we heard more of the second gentleman's message there. talk about what the biden administration plans to do, what they want to see from the international community? >> reporter: there's a couple of things. broadly speaking, the white house and biden administration want more countries to invest more and to focus more on combatting anti-semitism. now, more specifically, one of

the things that they would like is to expand the number of countries, for instance, that puts resources towards prosecuting hate crimes, so that's something tangible that they would like to see. they also would like to see more countries name a sort of coordinator to attack this issue and really take it on, and so what we're hearing from the first gentleman is an effort on international stage to try to push some of those things forward. this is an issue that he's made, as you noted, part of his portfolio. he held a round table at the white house on this issue in december. he recently traveled to poland and germany as he noted there in that sound bite you played, and he's really trying to draw attention to this. as for what the biden administration is doing on its own, the presidential has said he's going to put forward a national strategy to combat anti-semitism. that is something that is a work in progress, that administration officials are holding meetings on trying to pull something together with various agencies within the government, but that's not rolled out just yet,

and what we have heard from the president is he would like to increase the amount of money he has invested in securing up places like synagogues, which have been the target of hate crimes, and we're hearing the second gentlemen who is on the world stage pushing for this saying that this is an issue that needs to have accountability, and needs to be addressed and also that's something that people shouldn't just talk about that there needs to be tangible solutions. >> carol lee live outside the white house. thank you very much, appreciate it. coming down to capitol hill now where you have seen one of the top executives at southwest airlines say, yes, that epic holiday meltdown, our bad. we own the fail here. i know you remember this. because it was huge news for ten days right around christmas and hanukah, days of cancelled flights. thousands of people stranded, something like nearly 17,000 flights in all cancelled. here's what it sounded like on the hill.

>> let me be clear, we messed up, and like to explain to you how we messed up. in hindsight, we would not have enough winter operations resiliency. >> garrett haake has been watching this on capitol hill. the least catchy explanation of all time for what happened. it was like a tech meltdown. started with bad weather but that was not the reason it got so bad. the big questions here are what is southwest going to do about it, does it affect travelers, is there a trickle down impact on the people buying the tickets and what about for the department of transportation? one issue was raised about perhaps the d.o.t. doesn't have teeth to police airlines, to essentially get their acts together in moments like this. >> reporter: yeah, a lot going on there, and that line was corporate speak for our airplanes froze to the runway in denver. i mean, it's a pretty simple set of explanations here. i mean, what we saw at this hearing was southwest trying to take accountability for this as

opposed to trying to dodge it, which i think is a change from what we often see in hearings like this. but their problems were two-fold, number one, the weather which affected everybody. number two, their systems weren't prepared to handle it, and that's not coming from me. that's coming from the head of their own pilots association, a pilots union, also testified in the same hearing and said we have been trying to warn the airline about this for a while, hallie. listen to this part of the testimony. >> what our pilots saw and have known for years is that southwest struggled to manage nearly any disruption, regardless of the cost. >> reporter: if you're southwest, you have a different system than everybody else. your planes fly point to point. once the weather got bad, their folks got stuck in cities like memphis or denver or nashville, not just all o'hare or dfw or other big cities where other airlines tend to park their planes, and their software

system wasn't able to handle it. wasn't able to keep up with the scheduling. southwest said they're spending a billion dollars to update the software, the hardware, if you will, the stuff that makes sure your planes don't freeze to the runway. they're trying to pour money into the problem, and some of that includes refunds to passengers continuing to file with the airline. the d.o.t. part of this is something that probably comes up when the f.a.a. does the reauthorization. they're going to be leaning on not just southwest but the industry more broadly, to kind of hold up their end of bargain here. these airlines operate almost monopolies, and they've got to make sure their systems work when everybody needs it in the busy holiday travel season, not just when things are operating smoothly the rest of the year. >> garrett haake live on capitol hill. we'll look for more reporting on nightly. appreciate it. nfl players have long known what the risk is from the game

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