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earthquake. rescue workers still finding survivors in the rubble including a 10 day old baby after being trapped for almost 100 hours. we're live at the epicenter. we'll speak to chef jose andres who just arrived in turkey to provide some much needed relief to rescuers and survivors. back here at home, a twist in one of the investigations surrounding former president donald trump, a subpoena issued to his vice president mike pence. what this could say about the investigation. also, new, up close pictures of the chinese spy balloon that floated across the u.s. as we're learning more about its capabilities, lawmakers are demanding to know why it wasn't shot down earlier. plus, president biden addresses criticism about why the u.s. didn't take action sooner. what he said in an exclusive interview. and as we're gearing up for sunday's super bowl between the chiefs and the eagles, two quarterbacks are set to make
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history. and we have breaking news right now from the white house, one of the with the's top advisers leaving her post. nbc's kelly o'donnell joins us now. kelly, good morning, what do we know? >> reporter: good morning, jose. our team is first to report that a long-time ally and aide to president biden, kate benningfield who serves as white house communications director, she will be leaving her role at the end of this month and will remain attached to biden world if there is a coming campaign, but she has been a long-time ally of this president working in different roles when he was vice president with the campaign and then her time inside the white house. for a brief period last summer, she had considered leaving her role, but then decided to stay on through the midterm elections. and kate bedingfield has been someone very trusted by biden to shape some of the message coming out of this white house.
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she will be replaced by ben labolt, who is a long-time player in democratic politics and campaigns, and he also had a role here for a shorter time at the white house when ketanji brown jackson was nominated by the president to be his first choice for the supreme court and ben labolt handled the communications for that nomination, and that of course was successfully result instead her being put on the supreme court so a big change near the top of the structure of the white house staff, and it comes, of course, as we're just past the halfway point in the president's time in office. and so you see these kinds of changes. we've had the white house chief of staff ron klain depart, now jeff zients is in that role, and a critical role inside the white house with kate bedding fooen -- bedingfield choosing to leave her post. that is first to nbc news and breaking news here at the white house today. >> kelly o'donnell at the white house, thank you. and now to the dire
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aftermath of those deadly earthquakes in turkey and syria where the death toll now stands at more than 22,000. rescuers racing against time, freezing temperatures to find survivors, and there continues to be glimpses of hope with people still being found alive in the wreckage despite being trapped for more than 100 hours. crews cheering after each miraculous rescue. this morning rescuers in southern turkey pulled a 10-day-old baby from the debris of a collapsed building, then brought his mother to safety as well. the baby immediately examined in an ambulance, wrapped in a thermal blanket. take a look at this, a little girl being rescued with her father after being stuck for more than four days in the rubble. these images are just incredible.
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rescuers hacking at tiny openings because they can still hear people calling for help. look at that opening there. and successfully saving people like this young boy still alive after days trapped inside that little hole. our reporting team is live on the ground. nbc's gabe gutierrez is at the center of the quake's impact in turkey. nbc's matt bradley a few hours east at the usaid base. you rescued incredible rescues in the past couple of hours. >> reporter: that's right, jose, and i want to take off my mask that we've been wearing in between live reports because there's so much dust being kicked up where i am. it's the epicenter of this
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earthquake, and as you can see behind me, all this destruction. we have been witnessing search and rescue operations throughout the day. if you walk with me here, you can see that this destruction is just immense, it extends for entire city blocks. there's a huge cleanup effort underway right now, and jose, as we keep walking here, if we want to put up a double box video from a rescue that we saw late yesterday. it was actually overnight hours, a 57-year-old woman who was pulled from the debris. an incredible survival story. they say she had been trapped inside a very, very small enclosed space inside that debris, and she was able to make it out alive. she was alive. she was conscious. she was speaking with rescuers, and she managed to be rushed to the hospital, and so we walk here, we're trying to be very careful. you see these excavators here. very busy streets. over here i see some people starting to burn fires once
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again because it is very cold. a few moments before we came on the air, this house, this building, what's left of it, an excavator came by and it collapsed, the rest of it collapsed. this is a very dangerous area. we're trying to keep our distance. over there you can also see search and rescue operations underway. jose, this is a historic city, and there are so many residents here that are absolutely horrified at what's left of it. they tell me that they barely survived at all, and they dealt with aftershock as well. we spoke to one woman who said many of her friends and family are still trapped inside some of these buildings. jose, if my cameraman can pause here, there are some buildings that are still standing, very few of them. but look over there, there's a newer building that, you know, barely any windows broken in it at all. so you can see because some of
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these buildings were older, they didn't stand a chance. jose, this is going on around the clokt. clock. this is a city at the epicenter of the quake. with that death toll topping 22,000, incredibly, though, there have still been rescues happening, more than a hundred hours after this earthquake. the window of opportunity to rescue some of these people that may be trapped inside, that is quickly closing. there is frustration here among some residents that search crews didn't arrive fast enough. we just spoke with another person down the block. it's a strange situation. in any one of these buildings, whenever they call for silence to listen for somebody who may be trapped inside, there might be another building right next door that work has to pause on that search and rescue operation. so there is frustration mounting there between family members who don't want any pause in the search for their loved one.
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a very tense atmosphere here, jose. it's heartbreaking to witness how many -- the overwhelming destruction of this. >> as you say, the overwhelming destruction. gabe, do you get a sense there is pretty good organization and communication between the different groups because, you know, once you have that heavy machinery in the building where you are behind you -- >> jose, your signal's cutting in and out a little bit. i think you said is there any organization to the rescue efforts here? there was a volunteer that we spoke with earlier today, said he was frustrated in the first day or two that there was very little organization. now there are a lot of rescue crews here, and you can see a lot are necessary. this is just one of ten major cities across southeastern turkey that was heavily affected. so even search crews internationally, we've seen them from many places today, including, you know, russia, china, spanish, israeli search crews are here, and many turkish
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crews as well. it does seem that there does seem to be more organization now as opposed to several days. again, this just continues pretty much anywhere the eye can see. there's destruction here. can you imagine trying to come here and trying to prioritize which of these buildings to go and search through first. so that's where we are, jose. a monumental humanitarian crisis with tens of thousands of people in this area alone trying to find food and shelter in very cold temperatures. >> you're near the emergency base of usaid workers. how has international helped change the situation so far? >> reporter: as a matter of fact, i'm at that base. . this is one of the hardest hit cities in southern turkey. it probably looks a lot like where gabe is right now. we've seen these guys out in the field, in the city, they're doing fantastic work, and you
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can tell that the turks and regular civilians are very grateful. they're bringing dogs, which is important because in the week that i've been here in turkey reporting this story, i haven't actually seen the dogs until the americans brought them. i'm told that the turks do have canine units for search and rescue, but they don't have as many. one of the things that i was talking to some of these usaid people about, what are you bringing to the table that the turks aren't? they said nothing, the turks have all of the capabilities and in fact, turkish authorities, turkish serge and rescue missions go out around the region and do a lot of the same things the u.s. is doing here. it's just that the turks are overwhelmed, and you can see that wherever you go in southern turkey. i want to give you a little bit of a tour of where we are right now. this is a youth athletic field basically, and this is as astro turf that i'm standing on. all of this is under the umbrella of usaid and the state department, but it brings in
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local urban search and rescue crews. this is where the los angeles fire department and los angeles county search and rescue crews, they're all sleeping over here. behind me here, these are some medical tents and they're mostly for the crews themselves. they're not normally going to be used for actual turkish victims because they need them for the americans, but they say that if they do have a case among the local population, they will treat them here in these medical tents, and this is where the fairfax county crews sleep. so we have our sort of east coast, west coast representation here. why these two places, well, they've had a long-standing relationship with usaid and the state department. they maintain a level of training that allows them to be deployed internationally, and that's why they continue to go out in crisis zones throughout the world for decades hoping to do search and rescue operations, hoping, jose, to find people alive. >> matt bradley and gabe gutierrez, thank you so very much for being with us this morning. and joining us now from turkey, jose andres chef and founder of
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world central kitchen. thank you for being with us. i know you haven't slept. you are in charge of an army of hope, an army of love, an army of passion and compassion. what are you seeing where you are? what are you doing? >> well, right now i am in a town called abistan. this is a town that's been devastated. the entire town has been almost emptied out. people are moving to other places because the total damage of every single building, hundreds, hundreds here, and i'm talking to you from a kitchen that is not ours. this is a group ofvolunteers, istanbul, that they came to the most remote area and they set up this kitchen in a factory, and they've been cooking nonstop feeding the hungry population
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under very cold temperatures. in the town i am, it's all surrounded by -- why it came today, heard this was a very difficult town that they needed a lot of support, and i came mainly to learn about what, if anything, they would need to keep providing meals to the people. >> how can we help you help them? >> so jose i wanted to make sure one thing on the previous reporter that they were talking about dogs. i've been telling you there's been a lot of countrys that brought dogs with them. actually two of them came in the plane with me. >> the french people, i was with them yesterday. i saw them trying to rescue one
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person, and yesterday actually was a very amazing moment when hundreds of people in front of a building and actually they call everybody to be silent because they thought they heard somebody. when those moments happen are very, very powerful, but only for the record, usaid does an amazing job. there's been many different countries and different organizations already with dog search and rescue dogs all across. but i want you to know one thing, jose, you asked me how to help. i was in 2010 in haiti and this was massive and thousands of people, tens of thousands of people died, but this was one city, jose. one city. america came to help, international community came to help. this is ten cities, entire neighborhoods with thousands of people inside hopefully they'll
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pick them up under the rubble. the number of death here is going to be huge and obviously the number of injuries is huge. this is like ten efforts at once in multiple across 350 kilometers. so how can we help? you support the local organizations, some of them are going to be doing a good job. kitchen today we are doing roughly 65,000 meals. yesterday we did 40,000 meals. so we are increasing. but you feel that you're only putting the finger in a hole. so let's remember the people of turkey. this is going to be a very, very long, very long trip ahead as reconstruction begins. >> jose andres, you always inspire all of us. i thank you from the bottom of my heart for being who you are and for always taking the time to be with us. thank you, my friend. >> thank you. up next, investigators have subpoenaed former vice president mike pence, will he be
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efforts to stay in office after the 2020 election, and his role in the january 6th attack on the capitol. spokespersons for pence is and special counsel jack smith declined to comment on the matter. with us now to talk more about this is michael moore, a former u.s. attorney and a partner at the firm moore hall. thanks for being with us, michael. what does it say to you about where things stand with the special counsel's investigation that pence is being now called in? >> well, it's a pleasure to be with you this morning. i do think it sounds as if they're ramping up the investigation somewhat. there's been some speculation or at least some observation that things went a little bit quiet right after the special counsel's appointment. i think maybe some of the issues with the classified documents and such, maybe he was dealing with that, but it tells me that they're getting closer as we talk about a key figure in the january 6th incident. you know, i always enjoy hearing people say that this is a normal case and that there's been, you know, trump's being treated like
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everybody else or this investigation is like everybody else. that doesn't typically happen. you don't typically negotiate about grand jury subpoenas for a very long time if you're a prosecutor about what somebody will say and if they will say it. so i think they probably want to hear from pence about what he was told in the white house, discussions that he had with trump, maybe other observations that he had at the time, and i expect we'll have a legal fight over the next many months about executive privilege. i think ultimately that will fail, but i think we'll see that. >> and so what are the -- michael, the legal requirements for pence now that he's been issued with a subpoena? >> well, you have to comply with a grand jury subpoena. this is a little different than we got into with some of the congressional subpoenas. he's really not going to have an option but to comply. i expect they'll continue to negotiate. again, that's something unusual about this circumstance, but we're in certainly different territory here dealing with this type of investigation. they'll call him in.
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there will be some discussion on whether or not he's going to exert the privilege. you may see people for trump saying he was president at the time, it's his privilege to protect, and they may file as well an intervention action or some type of blockage to the subpoena, and that will get litigated. but remember, the supreme court has already dealt with this in the nixon case, and basically what they said at the time is you can't hide behind executive privilege like it's a shield. you can't cover up criminal conduct or a criminal investigation by saying it's executive privilege, i don't have to talk about it. there will be some back and forth in that and ultimately, i think the court will have to decide. i think they should make fairly short work of it given we've already got a supreme court case on point. at that point pence will tell his tale. if he claims executive privilege or he can't come forward, he wasn't too worried about executive privilege when he was writing his book and making these statements and giving speeches to the federalist society, and he was talking about things that happened back then, so now to try to hide behind it would seem
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disingenuous to me. and again, that's -- what we want to see is people come forward and not worry about the political ramifications that it might have against him or this false idea somehow that they could hide behind the notion of an executive privilege that essentially was dealing with whether or not there would be an effort to subvert an overthrow of a democratic election. >> i thank you so very much for being with us. appreciate it. >> pleasure to be with you, thank you so much. president biden is defending his decision to wait to shoot down the chinese spy balloon as questions continue to grow in washington. the president said in a exclusive interview he wanted that balloon shot down as soon as possible, but the defense department was worried about the damage it could do on the ground. the president also said the balloon was not a major security breach. >> the total amount of intelligence gathering that's going on by every country around the world is overwhelming, and the idea that a balloon could
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traverse, break american air space is -- anyway, it's not a measured breach. it's a violation of international law. it's our air space station. >> julio, it's always a pleasure to see you, my friend. talk to me about that exchange on the balloon, and what were your impressions when he was kind of, well, explaining that it wasn't a major breach, but that it was a violation of international air space. >> yes, thank you for having me, jose. i thought it was a very important answer, especially yesterday given that we learned a lot about the balloon yesterday. we learned that it's capable of electronic communications. it was important to learn if he -- i mean, if he thought they didn't really manage the situation properly after this
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information, but as you see he defended his answer. his decision. and i think his answer reflects the thin line he's walking on because at the end, president biden has to really try to keep things into control and don't allow tensions to grow with china. he needs to keep communications with china, so i think that answer reveals that. >> and julio, you tried to get some more clarity from the president on what exactly u.s. border policy is. what'd he tell you? >> yes, i thought it was important, jose as you know, title 42 is going to end in may 11th after the pandemic emergency ends, and so far title 42 is the only element that allows the government to deport immigrants in the border immediately, no questions asked. so how is he going to manage the crisis at the border after title 42 is lifted? that was the main question, and this is part of his answer.
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>> you're not considering and you wouldn't consider deporting mexican immigrants to mexico? >> i'm saying we have not done that. >> have you considered it in the future once title 42 is lifted? >> i don't think we have to do that, we have to consider that. >> so jose, this question was important after the reporting from from "the washington post" that said that the biden administration was considering deporting non-mexican immigrants to mexico once title 42 is lifted. president biden says that they will not do that and, of course, we will be watching. >> he also said that they haven't done it, but if you look at the numbers, there have been massive deportations of people under title 42, julio? >> that is correct. title 42 as i said is the one thing that allows them to do that. but things might change once the pandemic emergency is over may 11th. that's why the date is going to be extremely important.
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>> another exclusive from noticias teltelemundo. this morning we are getting new reaction from china after fiery public hearings in washington about that suspected spy balloon that flew over the u.s. for days. chinese authorities say beijing declined to call from u.s. secretary of defense lloyd austin last week before the balloon was shot down because washington had not created the proper atmosphere for dialogue. yesterday lawmakers pressed biden administration officials about their response to the balloon. joining us now nbc's marissa parra who is live in north myrtle beach, south carolina, where the balloon's remnants are still being recovered, and nbc's ryan nobles on capitol hill. what's the latest reaction from capitol hill to all of this? >> well, jose, the members, both republican, democrat, on the house and senate got a lot more information about this situation than they had previously gotten from the biden administration through multiple different hearings that were both in the public sphere and then closed
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door briefings as well that were classified. and there was a mixed bag of reaction. they were certainly happy that they were getting that information, but they still believe that the administration needs to tell them more. take a listen to some of what they had to say. >> i understand public health. i understand doing damage. i understand that could have been a nightmare, but the truth is i got a problem with the chinese balloon flying over my state, much less the rest of the country. >> senator, absolutely, we sent a very clear message to the prc when we shot it down in our sovereign air space, in our sovereign waters that has established that deterrent line. >> reporter: and what we learned yesterday, jose, is that the response the biden administration had really kind of fell along partisan lines. democrats believing that the biden administration did the prudent thing, republicans suggesting perhaps they should have been a little bit more aggressive. what both republicans and democrats seem to be saying, though, is they want a significant and specific plan for how to prevent this from
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happening going forward. they said the administration is working on that, but many are still concerned that that plan may not be enough to prevent this from happening again. >> marissa, they have released new photos showing their recovery efforts. so far they've not found all the intelligence gathering devices that that balloon was carrying. i thought it was going to be 45 to 50 feet of water. they still haven't found the major part of it. >> what they said is the majority of what they recovered has been the surface material, if you will, when you look at those photos. it does look consistent with what we can see as the outer material of the balloon as well as some antenna and wire they said. i want to show you where we are right now. it's relevant to the search. if you look over my shoulder, you'll see some brown canisters over there, those brown containers is where they are bringing in the debris that they do find. this is normally supposed to be a docking area. instead this has become a makeshift operations area for
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the navy and coast guard. you have to remember this balloon was about 200 feet tall, thousands of pounds. they said the debris field, the size of more than 15 football fields by 15 football fields. so we do not know just how small the pieces are after the impact of not only it exploding but maybe falling back into the water. they said that obviously this is still an active search. what they do find is so critical to understanding how this works, and jose, to bounce off what ryan had said, one of the questions why did they wait so long to shoot this down over myrtle beach, and part of the reasons why is they said that the recovery of the pieces of this balloon are so crucial and so essential to understanding its capabilities that this would make it easier. obviously this is not an easy search. we've seen divers and boats with sonar capabilities going out as early as this morning, and this is something that we don't want to end anytime in the connection couple of days. >> marissa parra and ryan
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nobles, i thank you both for being with us this morning. still ahead, tens of thousands of migrants are taking buses from the border to northern cities. we'll talk to the official who greets them when they arrive here in new york city. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports." t reports. and saved $652. they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. with the money we saved, we thought we'd try electric unicycles. whoa! careful, babe! saving was definitely easier. hey babe, i think i got it! it's actually... whooooa! ok, show-off! help! oh! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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35 past the hour. new york city officials are denying that the city is giving migrants bus tickets to canada after "the new york times" reported they're assisting people traveling to the northern border. the city said it has received more than 44,000 migrants just in the last eight months. with us now, manuel castro, commissioner of the city's office of immigrant affairs. thank you so much for being with us. give me a broad perspective of what 44,000 arrivals in eight months has meant and how you all have dealt with it? >> jose, thank you for having me on. this has been an unprecedented challenge for new york city. we understand that to be a humanitarian crisis, so that's how we've approached it because frankly we have to recognize that many of the individuals arriving to our city have been fleeing crises, they're fearful
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for their life, and so we have taken an approach that i think very few localities across the country have done, but mayor eric adams under his leadership, we have been advocating for a better approach, a federal approach to this situation, particularly providing expedited work permits. that's what people want, and you know, what you're seeing now, the images of people crossing over to canada is a direct response of people's frustration not of being able to work legally in the country. and so they're looking at all their options. we're supporting asylum seekers. we've done more than most cities or any city in the country, but this requires a federal approach. >> i remember last year when i was speaking to a venezuelan family who was in el paso and was looking for one of those buses that would take them to new york, they said, in new york
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i get a work permit faster than i do anywhere else. first of all, is that true, and isn't work permits kind of a federal issue? if so, what is it that they're not doing that you need done? >> absolutely, this is a federal issue. and really it's the responsibility of congress and the white house to figure out how to best address the needs of asylum seekers. you cannot allow people to, you know, come into the country, not give them the ability to work. what are they going to do? so of course they have to depend on, you know, the city governments like new york for shelter and others resources. look, you know, the difference between what we're doing here in new york city and states like texas, we're not discussing or encouraging people to go elsewhere. people want to reconnect with families and are they want help to get to their actual destination or wherever they feel they want to go next, that's what we're doing. >> you recognize the fact if
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it's 44,000 for a city like new york, last year maybe 200,000 people came to south florida, imagine the cities in texas, el paso was receiving 6, 7,000 people a day. those are issues that matter to cities large and small. i'm just wondering, what are you specifically needing from the federal government today, tomorrow, next week, and next month? >> mayor eric adams has been calling from day one for a federal strategy to meet this incredible crisis. he's been asking for expedited work permits so people can actually work and contribute back to the city. all asylum seekers i talk to share that interest and, you know, frankly the reason they're here is to be able -- you know, be at peace and be able to contribute back. but the truth is is that this cannot be solely the responsibility of new york city
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to handle such a humanitarian crisis. look, the difference between what we're doing and what, for instance, text is doing, they're chartering buses and coercing people to get on these buses. i spoke to people who told us that they were being assigned papers that they didn't understand and that they were given free, you know, transportation to new york city and not being let out of -- >> i will tell you that coercion is -- they knew they were going to new york. i can't tell you how many people i spoke to at the border, they were like -- new york is a beacon, and people know they want to come hear. i was wondering, commissioner. you were brought by your mother when you were 5 years old crossing the border and ended up here in new york. when you see these men, women, and children, what do you see? >> i see myself in those
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children and those families that arrived. i wished that we had been welcomed like that when i crossed the boarder and came to new york city with my mother. that's why we're doing everything possible. there are thousands of city employees and our partners doing everything we can to support these families. what's important to understand is that, you know, new york city has been doing a lot. we've done the most in any, you know, city and locality in the united states. but we need a federal response. new york city has welcomed tens of thousands of people every year for -- throughout our history, so that's nothing new to us. what's different here is that now we're battling this information as we're seeing with the canada situation. this needs to be addressed and we need a national strategy for that. >> so there is no busing to the canadian border? >> no, we are not chartering buses anywhere in the country -- >> you're giving tickets to people who want to go to the border? >> we're not helping someone to
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see you. what are you looking for in this visit of lula da silva to washington? >> it's a very quick visit. there's not going to be a lot of substance, it's a lot of symbolism. both presidents have dealt with, like you said, extremist attacks on their capitols. the dates are very similar. the one in brazil just happened on january 8th. it's a little bit over a month. this is all about celebrating democracy, and these two democratic leaders that have shown that they survived their extremist attacks. so that's what we're going to be looking for mostly. >> yeah, there are a lot of differences between the two, obviously, i mean, especially in foreign policy. lula da silva, he hasn't criticized the russians or supported ukraine on the situation in china, you know, brazil being the largest, you know, trade partner with china for their economy. there are a lot of differences on these issues. >> they do have differences, and
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those are the two big ones. lula likes to see himself -- he wants to be a peace broker. he's proposed setting up this peace club, what he calls, of non-aligned states that will get together and hopefully mediate an end to the conflict in the war in ukraine. as you said, he does not criticize russia. he doesn't condone the invasion, but he doesn't criticize him. also, china is brazil's largest trade partner, does twice as much trade with china as it does over its second largest trade partner, which is the u.s. you will not hear any criticism or involvement of lula with the increasing conflict tensions between the u.s. and china. >> and what's the latest on the investigations, et cetera, after january the 8th there? >> there is more than a thousand people under arrest and the investigations are extensive, including some military and police officials. they are looking into the role of former president jair bolsonaro, but right now there are no pending charges against
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their teams in the super bowl for the first time. >> i think it is history. i think it is something that is worthy of being noted and it is history, you know. it has come a long way. >> reporter: since the nfl's first championship in 1920, there haven't been many black starting quarterbacks, and even fewer have made it to the super bowl stage. the first one to ever win the big game, doug williams in 1988. >> it is a historical moment for the nfl, for football fans across the world. >> reporter: do you think it took too long to get here? >> way too long. i say that because the nfl is over 100 years old. >> reporter: though the majority of nfl players are black now, the leadership positions have historically been reserved for white men. in 1920, fitz pollard started in the league's inaugural championship. but by 1933, after the last two black players left the league, it banned black players. >> it was just this understanding that, you know, hey, we're going to be like baseball, we're not going to have any blacks in the league. >> reporter: the ban was lifted
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13 years later. but even then what historians call racial stacking came into play. >> positional prejudice. there were no black quarterbacks, no black middle linebackers. >> the stigma has always been it is a leadership position. the myth that a black guy can't think. >> reporter: the problem continued into the 2000s. from 2001 to 2010, only six of the 27 quarterbacks selected in the first round of the draft were black. even that was too many for some. >> i think what we have here is a little social concern on the nfl. i think the media has been very desirous of can a black quarterback do well. >> for me, this is totally due. >> reporter: on the sidelines, only three black head coaches. why do you think that is? >> that's a question that's not easy to answer. the owners got to make a decision. >> reporter: there has never been a black nfl team own, but now fans and athletes former and
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present are taking in this historic moment of progress as the entire nation gets ready for some football. who are you rooting for? >> i can't lose. i can't lose. >> reporter: doug williams tells me he doesn't usually watch the super bowl from the stadium, but this one he has to see up close. jose? >> niala charles, thank you very much for that report. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. i'll see you tomorrow night on "nightly news saturday." on monday i'm moving to 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific, followed by andrea mitchell at noon eastern, chris jansing at 1:00 and katy tur at 3:00, that's on monday. follow me on twitter and instagram. watch today's highlights of the show online at jdbartmsnbc. thank you for the privilege of your time. i see lindsey reiser there. she's fantastic and she's ready with more news after a quick break. c and she's ready with more news after a quick break. which is why we made bounce pet hair and lint guard
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