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good to be with you and happy friday. i'm lindsey reiser. right now, more miraculous rescues as the window to save more lives closes in turkey and syria. crews are desperately searching for remaining survivors, listening intently for any faint noises or cries for help. they're also getting some much needed help from man's best friend. >> very well trained, knows what to look for, and if it responds to the trainer, then the handler rather, they know there is a possible proof of life. >> the number of lives lost is nearing 23,000 and this morning the lack of food and the lack of heat only intensifying fears of another disaster. we're live in turkey ahead. plus, new bloodshed overnight in ukraine, russia unleashing dozens of missiles, kharkiv and z zaporizhzhia. is in the major offensive ukrainian officials warned of
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earlier this month? and ahead this hour, president biden is set to welcome the nation's governors to the white house. his message going into the meeting and how he's waving off polling, showing many democrats don't want him to run for re-election. but we begin this friday morning on former vice president mike pence, a source telling nbc news he is now the latest recipient of a subpoena by the justice department special counsel investigating former president trump's role in january 6th. so joining me right now on set, vaughn hillyard and senior legal correspondent laura jarrett and joined by chuck rosenberg, former u.s. attorney and senior fbi official and now msnbc contributor. laura, you reported this subpoena is related to january 6th, not the documents investigation. what can you tell us? >> it suggests this investigation has really entered an advanced stage. this is not the type of move you make at the beginning of the investigation. this is something that you do once you feel like you have gathered enough to talk to the former vice president of the united states. we understand that this has been the product of a series of negotiations over a period of
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months, this was not something done in haste. we know that we have seen a lot of other people subpoenaed before the grand jury in this investigation and so jack smith must believe he can only get what he now needs from the former vice president. i think that's the sort of argument you're going to hear when he has to make this argument because we don't yet know whether the former vice president will comply with it, but if there isprivilege, that' type of argument you'll hear, only he was privy to the conversations with the president, and that's why they need pence. but the big question, i think, is whether pence will comply or not. we don't yet have an indication of which way he's leaning. but you can imagine for reasons, political reasons he would want to be seen as not doing this voluntarily. he would be doing this being compelled by the justice department. >> what do you say about what we can expect in terms of pence's cooperation? >> is he going to try to go out on a limb and argue there is some extent of executive privilege here from his time in the white house?
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these were conversations, including that one, before that he took off in the motorcade, to the capitol, to oversee the certification process on january 6th, it was former president trump, then the president, who called him and over the course of more than 20 minutes, the suggestion is, pressured him to go to the capitol and to object to the certification process. but what exactly did donald trump tell him in that phone call? there are a lot of outstanding questions and despite mike pence writing in his book that he consistently told donald trump that he was going to go forward and that he did not have the legal right to object, there are questions of just exactly what did donald trump, and if he were to go before the grand jury, he would have to testify under oath and answer those very specific questions. and, again, this really amounts to coming two months after local elections officials from wisconsin to arizona to georgia and michigan receives subpoenas from jack smith about the pressure campaign from donald trump and his allies, this as laura was just saying is really
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getting to the crux of ultimately whether indictment will come down from the department of justice targeting donald trump. >> chuck, per laura's point here, obviously subpoenaing a former vice president is very significant and she said it signals maybe he's at a certain point in his investigation. why is that? and what essentially tells you, okay, this looks like he has what he needs to now go after one of these big fish and where could this go next? >> well, laura's quite right. there is a lot about this case that is extraordinary, investigating a former president, subpoenaing a former vice president, i mean, that's unusual in and of itself, lindsey. but it also tells you, and, again, laura made this point and i think it is a good one, you often talk to the most important witnesses as you near the end of an investigation. you don't really want to do exploratory surgery with your most important witnesses at the beginning. that said, it would be extraordinary not to talk to the vice president or at least to
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try to talk to him. if you're investigating a bank teller, you're talking to the guys in the parking lot who may have seen the getaway car. if you're investigating a former president for trying to obstruct the peaceful transition of power, or for a fake elector scam, this guy on the screen, former vice president pence is the witness you want to talk to. look, there may well be some privileged conversations between the two. there may be some unprivileged conversations. the department of justice may be able to convince the federal judge that the privilege, if it exists, should yield because they're investigating serious underlying crimes. and those privileges are not sacrosanct. they can yield to a crime fraud exception. so there is a lot of talk and a lot of litigating to be done, but this is exactly the guy you want to talk to. he's the teller. he's the guy standing in the parking lot, who got the license plate of the getaway car. >> so that said, chuck, i want to get your thoughts on some "new york times" reporting here.
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they say the move by the justice department sets up a likely clash over executive privilege, which mr. trump has previously used to try to slow, delay and block testimony from former administration officials in various investigations into his conduct. you and laura have both touched on it here. do you expect trump will use the same tactics and how successful could they be? >> if you define success as delay, you can be somewhat successful. if you define success as ultimately precluding the grand jury from getting information to which it is entitled, i don't think he will succeed. but often in criminal cases, a sort of well heeled subject or target or defendant is seeking to delay stuff, hoping that something breaks in his favor down the road. if the -- at the end of the day, and we know this from the nixon case, executive privilege yields to an underlying grand jury investigation if the department of justice can show that it has
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a need for that underlying information, right? so, does president trump ultimately succeed with the delaying tactic? i don't think so. but this is not going to move as quickly as some people might like, lindsey. >> vaughn, any clues about whether, again, per laura's reporting, this is related to january 6th and attempts to overturn the election. any idea if investigators will speak to pence about the documents or classified documents that were found? >> there is the prearranged plan to search mike pence's residence. now when that is exactly taking place is still unclear here at this time. but i think that that is where mike pence in his team have argued they try to get out in front of this here because they came forward to the department of justice and said they had found classified documents. also a question of whether pence's political organization will also be searched here. but it is a matter of timing here now at this point. they have tried to draw a distinction between joe biden and donald trump's set of
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documents, versus his own here, and exactly to what extent are these classified documents really truly secret national security -- national defense materials. those are the questions that are outstanding. we are waiting for when that prearranged search will take place. >> okay. thank you so much, vaughn hillyard, laura jarrett, chuck rosenberg, appreciate your time. well, tireless rescue efforts continue into their fifth day in the aftermath of the earthquakes in turkey and syria. international teams are working around the clock, searching for any signs of life. officials have confirmed more than 22,000 people have been killed, but still there are some glimmers of hope. i want to show you one of those. you can see rescuers saving a mother and her 10-day old baby from the rubble after they were trapped for 90 hours. we're getting a closer look also at some of the tent cities now housing survivors and some of the conditions they have to withstand. matt bradley joins us from the u.s. aid base.
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talk to us about not only the rescue efforts you're seeing, but these survivors, what conditions they're up against. >> reporter: yeah, i mean, we're outside of the city and it looks like someone has taken giant bites out of the city. it really is just a horror story there. but here it is more serene, we're at a u.s. base here, all run by usaid and the state department. it includes two search and rescue teams, one from fairfax county, virginia. one from los angeles county. and you can see it is a huge operation here, a big base, we have all this equipment here, most of the operations they have been doing so far have been reconnaissance, they have been sending people in, looking for people who might still be alive, which seems impossible and yet we're still seeing people are alive. now, these crates, all of this flown in on huge c-130 planes, these contain the heavy duty equipment, they're going to be using when they actually find people. we're hearing there is at least one team out right now, these
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guys, they're getting ready to go out and to look for people who are still living. they're bringing this really tough equipment, but they're also bringing something of a simpler, more direct, a dog. we saw them in action yesterday with their canine. here is our report. this is vader, as in darth vader. what are you expecting to see here? >> we're going to run the dog over to look for anybody that is still possibly alive. i guess they had verbal communication with somebody last night. >> reporter: vader gets a positive hit. the scent of a survivor. >> very well trained. knows what to look for. and if it responds to the trainer, then the handler, rather, they know there is a possible proof of life and so they'll mark that down as a positive hit. >> reporter: and the dog can distinguish between a dead body and a living person? >> that's right. >> reporter: the usaid team calls in reinforcements. >> what they're doing right now
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is putting out a listening device that will help them hear underneath the rubble to see if they can hear anything from anybody who might be down there. >> reporter: it will be hard with all of this. >> it is a chaotic situation. >> reporter: then we witness the impossible. they managed to recover a living victim. this is extraordinary. you can see what looks look a middle aged man being pulled out of this wreckage. an ordinary man who accomplished an extraordinary feat of endurance, simply by surviving. it is hard to imagine a guy like that, just sleeping in your bed and suddenly you find yourself underneath rubble for 80 hours. yet he comes out alive, that is exactly the kind of story that we keep seeing over and over again, and lindsey, it is the kind of story that is motivating this american crew, to get out there days and days after the first tremors and after hearing about the casualty numbers that are now exceeding 21,000. folks here, they have hope that
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they can still find people alive. lindsey? >> matt, this is just incredible reporting, what you witnessed here. i just have a quick question. was the man who appeared to be a middle aged man who was found alive, was that the same man that that dog had potentially detected? >> reporter: no, that was separate. in fact, the americans earlier on had said that they were called in, they kind of check that situation out, but the turks, they have that under control. they found that man. they were the ones who excavated him, pulled him out. we were there for hours, the whole time. the americans are looking for other people, you know. they came in only 36 hours ago. but they have been doing their work steadily and i asked them this same gentleman i spoke to in the report, what are the americans bringing to bear here that the turks aren't? they said, nothing really. the turks are really qualified professionals when it comes to urban search and rescue. in fact, turkish crews go around the region doing exactly this kind of work we're seeing these teams doing here. it is just that the turks are
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very much overwhelmed. this is a disaster that would overwhelm any government in any situation, the scale of it is massive and you can see that walking through a city like adiyaman. >> the manpower they need. while those chances of hope are dwindling, they're still there. all right, matt bradley, thank you. still ahead, president biden is just minutes away from meeting with governors at the white house. and he's tamping down on criticism over the u.s. response to china's spy balloon. >> this thing was gigantic. what happened if it came down and hit a school in a rural area? >> the parts add up to the size of a small car. ahead, what investigators are still looking for. but, first, air raid alerts across ukraine, a missile barrage is raising concerns of a new offensive. we're in the region ahead. oncera new offensive. we're in the region ahead. first psoriasis, then psoriatic arthritis. even walking was tough. i had to do something. i started cosentyx®.
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this morning, recovery efforts are under way across ukraine after what officials say was the massive new round of attacks on energy facilities and critical infrastructure. kyiv's mayor says ten missiles over the city were shot down. while at least eight people were injured on a new strike in kharkiv. in all, up to 35 missiles were fired at the critical kharkiv and zaporizhzhia regions. and all of ukraine has been under an air raid alert. the strikes come after weeks of warnings that russia was planning a new offensive ahead of the one-year mark of the war. and after president zelenskyy pleaded for more advanced weaponry and support this week, it visits to the uk, france and belgium, nbc's chief foreign correspondent richard engel is in eastern ukraine. here is some of his most recent reporting. >> reporter: the generosity of people here is amazing. they are not letting me leave until i have some of their borscht. i don't want to take their food, they don't have very much but they are insisting. it is so wonderful, so kind, so
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generous. thank you. i have no choice. okay. this is borscht? beautiful. in all the years i've been doing journalism, i found the people who are the most generous are generally the people who have the least to give. >> richard is with us now along with former nato supreme allied commander admiral james savritas. this goes to their generosity in the face of this adversity. >> reporter: and it was good borscht. a very lovely family. people are showing incredible determination. just to set that clip you showed a moment ago up, so, this whole area in eastern ukraine is now a new open front. starting a few days ago, russia
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launched a new offensive. it is very different from the offensive that it launched a year ago. so one year ago, russia invaded this country. after denying that it was going to invade, even though it had tens of thousands of troops on the border, then, of course, it did invade. but the initial russian invasion was a kind of blitzkrieg. it was an attempt to overwhelm the country with helicopter assaults, air strikes, an attempt to capture the capital kyiv. mostly it failed. and for the last year, ukrainian troops have been clawing back territory and have managed to take back most of this country. though still roughly 15 to 20% of ukrainian territory remains occupied, primarily out here in the east and in the south. that first russian offensive, attempted blitzkrieg at shock and awe, didn't work. so russia is now trying a different style of offensive. this much -- this offensive is much slower, is much more crushing, it is throwing troops
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at the front line. it is sustaining heavy losses. and according to western intelligence officials i've spoken to, russian losses are now up to 1,000 a day. and they are two to three times the losses of ukrainian troops because the russians are fighting against entrenched ukrainian defenders. but still, russia is continuing with this offensive, sending in soldiers, sending in conscripts, even though it is sustaining such heavy losses. and just because the russians are losing a lot in this grinding offensive does not mean it is completely ineffective. according to that same western intelligence official, russia is managing to drive its front line and the front line here is a roughly 800 mile long crescent shaped front that goes from kharkiv in the north to rougly zaporizhzhia or kherson in the front. that front is slowly advancing and encroaching deeper into ukrainian territory. so not the same kind of
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offensive as last year, but one that is punishing, highly destructive, and is inching forward. >> all right, richard engel, thank you. thanks to those people who are taking such good care of you and your crew. appreciate them. admiral, talking about this new offensive here, president zelenskyy said several russian missiles passed through moldova's air space. how big of a deal is this? >> it is a big deal, lindsey. and not it put too fine a point on it, there is a two-word answer to what is happening in terms of these attacks against critical infrastructure. it is war crimes. and so, add to the stack of war crimes going back to the actual invasion itself, the torture, the rape, everything we have seen, now you can put on top of that violation of sovereign air space, of other nations as well as going after civilian
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infrastructure, plunging people like we saw richard with a moment ago into a cold, dark winter night with no electricity, no heat, no running water. those kind of attacks on civilian population are designed to break the spirit of the ukrainians. i do not think they will succeed. and as long as we in the west continue to provide the weapons to the ukrainians, they will bring that fighting spirit to the table. i wouldn't bet against them. >> so zelenskyy is fresh off his european tour, asking for more aid, asking for jets. how likelymore aid to come and how likely is it he'll get what he's asking for? >> i think it is very likely that ultimately he will receive fighter jets. if you think of the trajectory, the conflict, in almost every case, in the case of tanks, armored personnel carriers, sophisticated antiair weapons,
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anti-ship cruise missiles, it all starts with the ukrainians saying we really need this, there is hesitancy, understandably on the west, but ultimately the ukrainians get what they need to stand up to vladimir putin. i think fighter aircraft are coming and coming soon. first will be probably mig 29s from poland, with f-16s from the u.s. back filling those. and then simultaneously training ukrainians to fly these advanced jets, but the u.s. f-16 and recently announced brits will train them to fly their typhoon. planes are coming. >> all right, admiral james stavridis, thank you for joining us. the nation's governors are at the white house, including some potential 2024 candidates. we'll have his new comments on another white house run. and the urgent search for debris from a 20-story tall chinese balloon is heating up.
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well, this morning, we know the fbi is still looking for key parts of the chinese spy balloon. the fbi now using sonar technology underwater. navy and coast guard crews are also searching. u.s. officials say they have already gleaned significant intel from the balloon, including what intelligence it was capable of collecting. however, the president just dispelled the notion it is a major threat in an interview yesterday. >> it is not a major breach. look, it is a violation of international law. it is our air space. and once it comes into our space, we can do what we want with it. >> joining me right now is melissa paras. what are we learning about the balloon and what they're still searching for? >> reporter: the parts they
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recovered, they said it amounts to the size of a small car. the most important parts of this remain under water. and i want to show you where we are. it is actually relevant to the search this is normally a public docking area behind me. this is now turned into a joint operations base if you will for both the navy and the coast guard. you see a bunch of military vehicles, military boats and if you turn over to the left, it is when you see those brown containers, those shipping containers are where they're bringing pieces of debris as they found them. and we're seeing navy divers, we're seeing coast guard boats pulling up, taking out to the water to the ocean to do more recovery and, lindsey, the difficulty here is we have to remember all of the factors that make this so difficult. this balloon was about 200 feet tall, thousands of pounds and this was shot down by a missile from 60,000 feet in the air w he don't know what that impact both the missile and falling from that high in the sky did to all of those pieces. we don't know how large those pieces are. we know the majority of what
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they recovered. you're looking at images, that is the balloon's surface, the canopy, the fabric, if you will. the most important parts that remain in the water in this moving body of water, the ocean which is also made of corrosive materials, this is spread over debris fields, 15 football fields by 15 football fields. it is a massive scale. and as we talked about, what they have recovered so far, they talked about antenna, they have been able to at least tell that some of these pieces were able to collect signals intelligence. that's according to the state department. the fbi has been a little bit more cautious with what they're saying. they said they want to get eyes on the payload. they want to get their eyes on the electronics before they definitively say what this was capable of. but as we mentioned, the majority of what they're waiting to get their hands on remains to be recovered by them. so far they have been having to go through the decontamination process with these pieces of
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evidence that they do get, that they have been getting since monday, but, lindsey, as we have laid out, not an easy search, even though we're in myrtle beach, some pieces, 45 feet deep, but other pieces might be deeper than that and we're in for a rainy weekend, which, lindsey as we can imagine will not make this search any easier. >> marisa parra, thank you. breaking news in the ongoing doj probe of the handling of classified documents. a senior law enforcement official tells nbc news the fbi is actively searching former vice president mike pence's indiana home today. in search of any more classified documents. nbc news senior white house correspondent kelly o'donnell is following this. we're also bringing back former u.s. attorney chuck rosenberg. kelly. what do we know? >> reporter: you laid it out there, that's what we know at this point. the indiana home of the former vice president and his wife karen is now being searched by the fbi. this was as we understand it a negotiated search, so a pence
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legal representative would be there representing the former vice president, so this is not a case of it being a surprise. and this, of course, follows mr. pence having some classified materials that he surrendered over to the authorities and the national archives. obviously this all came to light after first the last august search where former president trump had lots of classified and government materials in his home and we have seen what played out with president biden having materials at his home and at an office in d.c. and so, mike pence did a search of his home. he, of course, when he left the vice presidency, had a period of time where he had goods that were in storage and then several months after leaving office, he and his wife purchased that home in carmel, indiana, and things were sent there. they did a search, he said, on
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his own. what he discovered some materials placed them in a safe, and then he alerted counsel that had the ability to contact authorities. the fbi came to his home, retrieved those materials, and then separately his lawyers delivered to the national archives four boxes of materials that could be government records that they believe to be copies of things that may or may not be of interest to the national archives, but they wanted to provide that content back to the national archives for them to review it and see if there was anything else. subsequently the former vice president had been -- we spoke about this publicly and he said it was his responsibility, that it was not appropriate for him to have anything classified or with classified markings in his home, and he was going to fully cooperate. now, here we are, with a search today playing out, in indiana. these typically take several hours for investigators to go through and look through all of
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the different places within a residence and to then provide an inventory as typically the practice to the lawyers for mike pence in this case. and then we will ultimately find out at some later date if there was anything more from this. but this is a big development, mike pence has been in the news for a separate matter, dealing with a subpoena in the january 6th thing. that's a different story. just a coincidence that mike pence is in the news for two interesting areas today, but they are unrelated. lindsey? >> so, chuck, again, we have what looks like a cooperated search, today was the negotiated day for the search, drawing comparisons with the search at president biden's penn biden center and the rehoboth beach home and different from the search at mar-a-lago. >> that's right. i think the search of the pence home and the biden home have much more in common with one another and are quite different
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than the search of the trump home. let me explain that, lindsey. both pence and biden had documents, classified documents, apparently, in their home. that's a stunningly bad idea. the best thing you can say about it is that they were sloppy or somebody who worked with them was sloppy. mr. trump had the same thing. but we can distinguish the trump case from the other two. mr. trump was asked multiple times to return documents. he refused to cooperate. in the search warrant that was executed at the trump home there was some evidence of obstruction of the process. that's not true of either mr. pence or mr. biden. both of them had been fully cooperating. they consented to searches of their homes, they're entitled to do that. if the fbi thought that there was probable cause to believe a crime had been committed, probable cause to believe they would find evidence of the crime in the home, they could get a warrant. but that wasn't necessary for mr. biden, and it wasn't
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necessary for mr. pence. those two gentlemen simply consented to the search. and that's their right to do so. it is really important, by the way, whether or not anyone ever charged with a crime of mishandling classified documents, it is important for the government to get the stuff back, even inadvertently. you don't want it getting into the wrong hands and so both mr. pence and both -- sorry, mr. pence and mr. biden are both handling this in a thoughtful, responsible way. again, whether or not anyone is ultimately charged, we'll see. >> kelly o'donnell and chuck rosenberg, thank you for joining us on that breaking news. right now president biden is meeting with the nation's governors at the white house. this is part of the national governors association winter meeting. ali roth is with us from the white house. what can we expect from today's event? i believe this is a live picture of the vice president speaking. >> reporter: that's right. president biden, vice president kamala harris walking into the
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east room, starting this event a couple of minutes ago. it is kicking off a weekend of festivities between president biden and the nation's governors. we expected first lady jill biden to be in attendance, but the white house is saying this morning she's going to not attend today's events because she is feeling a little bit under the weather. the white house making sure to say she has been tested for covid and that test did come back negative. but, this is usually an annual bipartisan event between democrats, republican governors, but this is going to be an interesting thing to watch because as you see in the room there, there are several likely 2024 presidential hopefuls, both democrats and republicans in that room. governors like michigan's gretchen whitmer, new hampshire's chris sununu to name a few. the white house says all 55 governors from the nation's states and territories were all invited to not only this event, but this weekend's festivities, but noticeably absent from the
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room is a likely -- another likely 2024 presidential hopeful, florida's republican governor ron desantis. we saw president biden say in an interview with our telemundo colleague yesterday when he spoke in florida he hasn't made a decision of whether or not to run in 2024. he says that this factor of whether he would run against former president trump or ron desantis in florida hasn't really crossed his mind. so as we look at this room, this event playing out, there is really a lot of subthemes playing out. of course, we have seen president biden travel to wisconsin, to florida, since tuesday's state of the union address. really testing out the message that he presented at that address to the american people. this event is going to give him another opportunity to do that, in front of the nation's governors, representing all 50 states, lindsey. >> we also got word this morning that kate bedingfield will be stepping down as white house communications director. what more do we know? >> reporter: yeah, her team was first to report this morning
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that kate bedingfield will be stepping down from her post at the end of the month. she'll be replaced by ben lebolt, a familiar face to the white house press shop. he's handled several communications projects since the inauguration, he was with president biden during transition. handled events like the nomination and confirmation of now supreme court justice ketanji brown jackson. bedingfield considered leaving the white house back in the summer, so this wasn't all too surprising. we do expect her, she's stepping down from this post, we expect her if biden announces a 2024 run to play some sort of role or have in some sort of presence on a re-election campaign. >> allie raffa, thank you. john fetterman's office has confirmed he spent a second night in the hospital last night. he was hospitalized wednesday after feeling light headed. fetterman suffered a stroke last may which has affected his speech processing for months, but his office says an mri ruled
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i'm so glad i made it through the day. ♪ don't hesitate. ask your doctor about otezla today. jurors in the murder trial of alex murdaugh heard from a lawyer who filed a civil suit against murdaugh and was pushing to get more information about his finances before the murder of his wife and son. nbc's ellison barber is outside the courthouse in south carolina. what are jurors hearing from prosecution witnesses today and when do we expect the defense to get trial? >> reporter: so this morning we started by hearing from an attorney named mark tensely. he represents the family of mallory beech, the woman who was killed in a boat crash in 2019.
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paul murdaugh, the now deceased son of the defendant in this case, was accused of driving that boat under the influence when it crashed. alex murdaugh owned the boat. he had been named in a civil suit filed by this attorney, a $10 million civil suit related to that boat crash. what we heard in his testimony today, this attorney said that the moment paul and maggie were killed, the wife and son of the defendant in this case, that it meant the civil case, that the defendant was facing, millions of dollars that he could have had to pay, that that essentially was going to be over. listen. >> did that have any effect, that tragedy of their deaths, did that have any effect on your assessment of the boat case and how everything fit together if things were how they initially appeared? >> it would have affected -- yes, it did. and it would have ended the
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case. >> it would have ended the case against who? >> against alex murdaugh. if alex is a victim of a vigilante, nobody is going to hold him accountable. >> so the prosecution has really spent the last few days trying to establish a motive in this case. they say that alex murdaugh had a number of financial issues that were going to be coming to light and he killed his wife and son in an effort to gain sympathy and distract the attention to something else. one thing legal analysts have pointed out is that a motive to want to kill someone, that's not necessarily something that makes you a murderer in a court of law and have raised questions as to whether or not the prosecution is getting too in the weeds here and if the jury can follow all of this, because they focused a lot on circumstantial evidence in the last few days, they say they have a strong case, the defense, they're adamant their client is not guilty. lindsey? >> ellison barber, thank you. next, flash back to a time in 2017 when netflix tweeted out this proclamation.
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countries, including canada. new rules for netflix. ♪♪ >> reporter: for netflix, shared passwords to watch shows like "wednesdays" means lost money. and now the company is cracking down. this morning in canada, spain, portugal and new zealand, the netflix password free for all is officially over. subscribers have to declare a primary location for an account, outside users can be added, but for a price. in canada, it is $7.99. the number of outside users aloud will depend on the subscription. two for premium, one for standard. basic won't be able to add any outside users. netflix has not specified what the changes will be in the u.s.. only saying they will go into affect in march. the company also saying its customers in the countries will be able to easily watch netflix on their personal devices or log into a new tv like a hotel or
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holiday rental. netflix has not said how it will tell the difference between someone using their account while traveling and a shared password. it is unclear what the penalty will be for breaking the rules. some netflix users not happy with the change. come clean. whose password are you using? >> i have two accounts right now. one is my boyfriend's best friend's mom's account. the other is my -- >> reporter: wait. your boyfriend's best friend's mom's account? >> yep. >> reporter: the streaming wars are heating up. customers can choose between a wide range of services and subscription options. netflix began the year announcing its first drop in subscribers ever. after launching a new basic plan with ads, they outperformed exwe can -- expectations. >> netflix is confident in its
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content being so great they will convert people who haven't been paying to start to pay. >> reporter: netflix doesn't have your subscription. will they get your subscription? >> no. >> not what netflix wants to hear. the company estimates there are 100 million households sharing passwords. that means money lost. >> 100 million, wow. it's the chalk and the numbers that you see. my boyfriend's best friend's mom. >> everyone has to brace themselves. >> thank you. we are two days out from super bowl sunday. when you watch the big game, the famous commercial spots will be more expensive than ever. this year's prices have topped $7 million for a 30-second spot on fox. it's the third consecutive record breaking year for prices. joining me, morgan brennan.
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what is this, $7 million for 30 seconds. what can you tell us? >> it's eye popping. booze, betting and jesus. that is some of the stuff you can expect to be featured in the commercial breaks. budweiser will not be the sole beer advertiser this year. there will be beer and liquor brands featured, marking a shift after busch ended its exclusive advertising sponsorship that existed more than three decades. sports betting sites will have ads as well. there's going to be an ad campaign, it was introduced last year, focused on jesus. it will run 90 seconds. the cost, around $20 million. what viewers cannot expect to see this year? all the cryptocurrency commercials that were so heavy in the commercial breaks at the game last year. of course, that's in the wake of the ftx fallout that we have talked about. the super bowl still regularly
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brings in an audience of 100 million people. it's tv's biggest event of the year. thus, it's advertising's biggest night of the year as well. hence, the eye-popping prices for fox. this is going to be a company record, according to executives, in terms of total revenue the game is expected to bring in come sunday. >> the only day i don't hit mute during those commercials. thank you. in addition to the record setting ad buys, there are a lot of firsts. beyond making history with black quarterbacks leading both the eagles and chiefs on the field or marking rihanna's first live show in five years, the super bowl will also be the first ever to be held in a state with legal betting. that means some big bucks exchanging hands on sunday. shaquille brewster is in
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arizona. >> reporter: look, this will be no surprise to anyone who watches basketball or watches football. legal betting is expanding. more people are doing it than before. if you watch the commercials, many are advertising many of the apps, online ways to place a bet. you have people and commentators telling you the live odds as the game is happening and encouraging you to place a bet. that's all adding up to this record number that we are seeing. the american gaming association saying for the super bowl year, you will have the record amount, more than 50 million people placing a bet. we are talking about bets that collectively add up to about $16 billion. how are they doing that? 36% are betting online. 34% bet casually among friends. 26% doing office pools or square contests. 18% will bet in-person at a sports book like the one i'm standing in right now, which as
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you mentioned is on stadium ground. the state farm stadium that the super bowl will be held at on sunday. i spoke exclusively to the ceo of bet mgm about the change we are seeing. listen to what he said about the evolution of sports betting. >> in my lifetime, i didn't expect to see legal sports wagering in the united states ever. people have been doing this for thousands of years. i think the evolution of the industry here demonstrates an acknowledgement of the fact it has always been there. >> reporter: that acknowledgement that it's always been there. he is talking about the idea that many people have been placing bets under the table. this is open now. more than half the country, this is something you can do legally. of course, we should note, you should do it responsibly. that's something you have the nfl and many of the agencies encouraging. >> it's been there. now it's ubiquitous.
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