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good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. as we come on the air, former vice president mike pence finds himself at the heart of two special counsel investigations unfolding simultaneously. one into classified documents that the fbi is searching for at his home literally as we speak. he's also facing a brand new subpoena regarding donald trump's pressure campaign to overturn the 2020 election. will he testify, and if so, could that be the key to criminal charges agains the former president? look at this extraordinary video out of southern turkey. a woman buried for 108 hours pulled from the rubble of a collapsed building. but accounts of survivors like

her are few and far between with the death toll soaring over 22,000. this morning a representative with the u.n. refugee agency said more than 5 million may have been left homeless in syria alone. i'll talk to him live coming up. plus, a stunning new admission from one of those memphis police officers involved in detaining tyre nichols about the moments before they pulled him over. but we start with news breaking in just the past couple of hours, that the fbi is searching the indiana home of mike pence for classified documents. the date for this search, we're told, was negotiated ahead of time. separately, pence is weighing his response to a subpoena by special counsel jack smith to tell his story under oath about january 6th and attempts to overturn the 2020 election. this is an extraordinary decision for the former vice president, which could have enormous legal and political applications both for pence and

his former boss and potential 2024 rival, donald trump. pence refused an opportunity to testify about that before the january 6th committee. that said, he's been crystal clear about his position on trump's attempts to hold onto power. >> i heard this week that president trump said i had the right to overturn the election. president trump is wrong. i had no right to overturn the election. >> i want to bring in nbc's senior legal correspondent laura jarrett, a former federal and state prosecutor in new york and an msnbc legal analyst, and brendan buck served as an aide to former republican house speaker paul ryan and john boehner and is an msnbc political analyst. so tally, mike pence has talked extensively about that day even including it in his book, but how different is it, and how important is this investigation to get him under oath to answer

questions? >> it's incredibly important, chris, because i think it's clear from all of the reporting that there is information that mike pence has and only mike pence has that is relative to the heart of what happened on january 6th that is to say one on one conversations he had with donald trump that day and likely also in the days proceeding. i think that this is important because if pence or trump were to challenge the subpoena say on grounds of executive privilege, the justice department would have to show that there was a demonstrated need to get it from him, that they couldn't have gotten this information any other way. and i think that they are going to be able to do that based on everything that we've heard, that he is the only person who can answer these questions, and they need the answers to these questions in the course of this investigation. >> laura, first it's good to have you here on set.

pence has put a lot on paper, right? we said that. he's put a lot on the public record generally, so what are the unanswered questions that most likely the special counsel will want to know the answers to? >> some of those conversations as tali just laid out are conversations that only pence has the answers to, right? some of them are circumstances in which other people are in the room, but they may want to flesh out a little bit more. in a wall street journal article last november the former vice president laid out a number of these conversations for everybody to read. one of them happens on january 4th, and this is the infamous oval office meeting where the president's lawyer john eastman lays out this harebrained idea about stealing the election and how pence is going to play a role in this. here's what pence writes about it, i turned to the president who was distracted and said, quote, mr. president, did you hear that? even your lawyer doesn't think i have the authority to return electoral votes. the president noted. if i'm a prosecutor, i'm going

to say, okay, he nodded but what did he say? tell me everything about that. you're going to probe deeper. you want to understand the president's intent, his mind-set at that time, all of that is going to be important as the special counsel is trying to figure out exactly what happened. >> tali, how much is state of mind a part of this? >> it's a huge part of it, and it can only be determined through the kinds of questions that laura talked about, which is why it's certainly not enough to say, well, he wrote about it in that op-ed or he's going to write about it in his book. they are going to -- if it were me in the room, i would want to ask him not just what did donald trump say to you that we may not know yet and that we didn't hear, but how did you think he was really thinking about this election? what was your impression of his state of mind, and i also think that state of mind is really important to the question of how much pressure trump was putting on pence. that's really relevant to some

of the criminal charges that the justice department is said to be contemplating, so these conversations can be incredibly informative. i should say, chris, that they also could be helpful to trump, and that's part of why the special counsel needs to talk to pence. pence has said in some of his writing, look, i think trump is getting really bad legal advice, and he was just relying on that, and so before you complete an investigation, you need to understand both the good and the bad in terms of the evidence that you might use to prove a case or that might work against the case that you're trying to put together. >> brendan, we've never seen anything like this, a former vice president potentially testifying against a former president, and both potentially being rivals for the party's nomination. do you think, first of all, trump will fight this? and how do you see this playing out for 2024? >> yeah, it's important to remember that mike pence is potentially about to launch a presidential election and obviously donald trump already

has, and it really underscores, i think, the nearly impossible political high wire that mike pence is going to have to walk if he's going to be successful running. look, if he is a part of an indictment against his former boss, you can only imagine the outrage that's going to stir among donald trump and his supporters and the problem for mike pence is that he's never really made a clean break from donald trump. of course he has talked about how he did the right thing on january 6th, and he certainly did, and he seems to have distanced himself a little bit, but mike pence is -- the basic case for mike pence nomination for president is his role as vp, and he always talks about all of the successes of the trump/pence administration. it's very difficult for him to say i was the donald trump supporter all the way along and i did the most to advance the trump agenda while also being seen as back stabbing his former president, and it's very difficult to walk that high wire, but this is just another one of those situations that

puts him right in that cross fire. >> and tali, before i let you go, i want to ask you about the search that's going on right even as we speak at mike pence's home in indiana. look, obviously as we said in the beginning, prenegotiated the date when this was going to happen. looks like this was a completely cooperative situation, but do we have any idea specifically what the counsel's looking for here? >> well, as you say, chris, this is an entirely different situation. i think it is a coincidence that they're happening at the same time, and here, remember, this is a consensual search that is happening because pence himself reported that he had found some classified documents and wanted to make sure that there were not others. and so this was an inevitable consequence of him coming forward in the first place. i do think it draws an interesting contrast to the matter of the subpoena because here pence has acted

consensually, he's said i wanted to make sure i don't have anything lying around that might endanger the nation's security. in the kaus of the special counsel's subpoena about january 6th, it may actually be useful to him to be subpoenaed. this has been my experience with some witnesses as a prosecutor, rather than come in voluntarily so that he can say to those who might complain later, look, i had no choice. i had to come in and testify under oath. this is not something i volunteered. it's not something that i consented to. i was just following the law. i was forced. >> thank you so much. laura jarrett, we appreciate it, brendan buck, and tally far had yan weinstein will join us later on in this hour. we've got new details about the spying capabilities of chinese balloon including that it had solar panels large enough to power multiple active intelligence collection centers. that information was collected by american aircraft before the

balloon was shot down and refutes the chinese government's assertion that it was just a weather balloon and that the u.s. overreacted. today under the sea off the coast of south carolina divers are still at work, a senior state department official tells nbc news that the amount of wreckage collected so far is about the size of a small car. that's a fraction of the balloon itself which officials have compared to a 20 story building. joining us now marissa parra, who is in myrtle beach, south carolina. what do we know about what's been found so far and the challenges of what they still have to find? >> reporter: i mean, it is a seriously tedious process, and before i get into, that i want to explain why we are where we are. so we have a bird's eye view of what has now become sort of a makeshift joint operation space between the navy and the coast guard. this is normally supposed to be a public docking area. you can see instead we have

military vehicles, military boats. if you pan to the left you see brown shipping containers. this is where they're bringing in those pieces of debris as they find it. when we talk about the sheer size and scope and difficulty of this. you have to remember the size of that balloon, as you mentioned, 200 feet tall. thousands of pounds, and the debris field, more than 15 football fields by 15 football fields, so you have to remember that this was shot down by a jet missile. this fell from 60,000 feet in the air, so there's a lot of questions on what the impact of the vessel took on the actual equipment inside, but then also the impact as it fell from the sky 60,000 feet all the way into the water. now, one of the arguments that has been made by the administration as to why myrtle beach is because the water is more shallow. this is true. certainly a lot more shallow than those alaskan waters as that's been a big part of conversation. there are parts of myrtle beach's ocean waters that are as shallow as 45 feet deep, but this is still a massive debris field, and again, we don't know

how small these pieces are as they're searching for this. in part due to imagery from spy planes on the spy balloon, they were able to determine multiple antennas were there to collect signal intelligence and geolocaing communications. they really only started getting pieces of evidence in their hands on monday. this is ocean water we're talking about. salt water is corrosive, so it has to be decontaminated before they're able to study it, and the fbi has said the most important parts of what they need -- this is the payload, that remains under water. so far everything they've recovered, when you look at the images on the side of your screen there, that is the outside of the balloon. most of that was already on the surface. that was much easier to collect than what we imagined to be the much smaller parts here and again, the most important parts that will not only determine what exactly this was capable

of, this spy balloon, what it was transmitting if that was happening in realtime, and of course also helping them to determine how to detect this in the future. back to you. >> such interesting stuff, thank you so much. appreciate it. 90 hours buried alive under the rubble of an earthquake. we'll show you the miraculous rescue that just happened in turkey and talk to a united nations representative. and a rare rebuke from mitch mcconnell to a senator from his own party, why he appears to be hanging rick scott out to dry ahead of the next election. and making history, we'll see in the super bowl this weekend something we've never seen before. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. some people have minor joint pain plus stomach problems. they may not be able to take just anything for pain. that's why doctors recommend tylenol®. it won't irritate your stomach the way aleve® or even advil® or motrin® can. for trusted relief, trust tylenol®. doors lead us to new opportunities.

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while criticism grows that government response has been slow. but against all odds, survivors continue to be saved under extraordinarily challenging conditions. look at this video of a mother and her 10-day-old baby being rescued this morning after 90 hours under rubble. let's bring in nbc's kelly cobiella who is in turkey for us. i know you've been at a mosque that's doubling as a shelter for quake victims. most of them are syrian refugees. what are you hearing? >> reporter: yeah, chris, these are people who lost everything when they left syria because of the civilian. they've lived here in turkey, some for a few years, some for a decade, and they're now losing everything once again. one family of ten told me that their house was broken, that it was destroyed. others are simply too afraid to go back to their homes, which may or may not be damaged. they're not sure yet. take a listen to a little bit of

what they told me. >> what is happened again, so how we will go out this door. the door is so small. we are a lot here. what we can do? how we go now. so i don't know what i do, but i must do sit there because it's raining and it's snowing. what we do. >> after the earthquake, all the natural gas sources were shut down, so the houses are absolutely cold. >> reporter: so the government says more than 5,000 buildings have been destroyed, and there is a lot of destruction here, but there's also this issue of people not knowing whether or not their homes are safe, and if they do go back to them, there's no gas often for heating. there's no hot water, sometimes there's no water at all. a couple of the neighborhoods that we visited outside this city, which is quite a big city, people are -- like entire neighborhoods are living outside, chris. they're living in their cars.

as we now go into a fifth night of freezing cold temperatures, this is becoming a real issue. aid is not reaching everyone. that's for a variety of reasons. some of them just logistical, some of them because of damage, and as all of this is going on, as you're seeing this huge, humanitarian sort of disaster unfold, you still have people like the people you see behind me who are continuing to try to find more survivors, as we move into, again, fifth night of this. these people have been here, these rescue crews have been working on this site since day one, the last time they brought someone out alive was yesterday morning. one of the men i spoke to whose family members are believed to be missing here said we really need more help. we need more -- they need more aid, but he said we also need more high-technology to help

these searchers find people. he was convinced if only they had more technology here that they would be able to hear people in the rubble and they would be able to bring them out alive. he said whenever we see someone come out alive, he said that gives us hope once again. >> we keep hearing the number 72 hours after which hope for really finding someone alive dwindles significantly. you're now probably approaching 100 hours. are you finding that in addition to the frustration of not having the right equipment that emotionally, physically, they're reaching the end of their rope? talk about the mad where you are, and as you've been watching these rescuers working under these really challenging conditions. >> reporter: yeah, i think the mood among the rescuers is one thing. the mood among the families is something else. the rescuers are really propelled on by just the idea of possibly finding one more person

alive. they have brought out bodies today as we've been here, at least three since we've been here over the past several hours, but every once in a while, about every hour or so, maybe even a little more often they call for silence here. all lights go off. all ignition goes off. everybody is completely quiet. that mountain behind me is completely dark, and all you see are the lights of those rescue crews, and they're listening once again for signs of life. they are absolutely not giving up on this. then you have the mind-set of people who are waiting behind the camera, the people you can't see, chris, are a whole line of people i would say hundreds of people waiting to hear something about loved ones, friends of loved ones, they've been waiting for hours, sometimes days, and they are getting frustrated. they're frustrated at the pace of this, not because of what the rescue workers are doing but

because they feel like they just don't have enough tools to find the people buried in the rubble. so there is frustration building on that end. frustration about what they perceive as not enough resources, not enough aid, not enough quick action. no one here from what i heard was blaming anyone in particular, but there is building frustration and just exhaustion on the part of people who have survived this, chris. >> nbc's kelly cobiella, what they're going through is unimaginable. thank you for bringing their stories to us. we appreciate it. and just like you saw, most of the images of devastation that you've been seeing have been coming from turkey, but more than 3,300 people have died in neighboring syria. it's just harder for logistical and political reasons to get reporting from there. but more than 5 million people may have been left homeless, compounding what was already a humanitarian disaster in a country racked by civil war. for more we're joined by the

u.n. refugee agency currently in damascus. thank you so much for being with us. 5 million people homeless. it's hard to even wrap your mind around that. tell us about the scope of the damage you're seeing, but also the humanitarian crisis. >> thank you, thank you for having me. i think just to maybe give you a flavor of how devastating it's been, we're barely into the end of the fifth day after the earthquake on monday. there have been a number of aftershocks. we've had a few other quakes as well. so i think a lot of people are extremely uncertain, very unsure, very nervous about the situation. i think we're still very much reeling from this -- from this situation. the magnitude is incredible. we have a number of our staff who are actually sleeping outside of their homes because

it is impossible to get back because of structural damage and be in their homes, so there's a lot of -- a lot of hardship being experienced even by our staff, and if really ordinary syrians are facing a much, much more difficult situation. as you were pointing out, this is a crisis within a crisis. let's not forget that, you know, there's been a war that's been going on in syria for 12 years, so there is, in fact, a number of persons who have already been displaced by the conflict, 6.8 million persons, and now many of those persons who are already in a situation of displacement find themselves displaced yet again because of damage exacted by the earthquake. now of course it's also happening at the height of winter. it's literally 4 degrees outside right now. we have snowstorms in many of the affected areas, which of course in addition to all the

hardship that has been caused by the destruction brought by 12 years of conflict brings added hardships. roads are damaged. it's very difficult to access some of the affected populations. we nonetheless literally hours after the quake struck on monday morning at 4:20, we did mobilize a number of our stocks, emergency relief items that we had already prepositioned for the ongoing crisis, and we have been trying to get those out to people in need as quickly as possible. >> how challenging is it to do that, and are you getting the cooperation you need to at least get things moving? i know that even under the circumstances before the earthquake it was a challenge. >> well, access is difficult also because of the physical conditions that i was telling you about, the weather and

damaged roads and so on. we've been working with all parties to try and ensure that we get to affected populations as quickly as possible and certainly i've been just having meetings with a number of my fellow u.n. colleagues. we've been working with all parties concerned to try and get people -- get goods out to affected populations and ensure that our teams are out there. i can tell you that right now, in fact, just at the end of today, we had reports from our teams all over the country who have been scouring collective centers where displaced persons are lodged trying to ensure that what we call core relief items are being distributed to them. this could be anything from shelter-related items like tents and plastic sheetings to clothing, winter clothing, winter jackets, and various other items that at this moment of need are incredibly critical

for populations in need. so people, we are getting out, i think, and we have more stocks that we're trying to move out. we have about 30,000 core relief items, kits that can be sent out and about 20,000 tents. the challenge is also to try and ensure that we have those stocks replenished as quickly as possible because there is an ongoing crisis, and on top of that we have these added needs. >> as we said, 5 million estimated homeless. thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us and thank you and all the folks who have been working in syria and continue to work in syria. as you say, some of them sleeping outside to do this great humanitarian work. we appreciate it. thank you. we'll hopefully talk to you again and check in and see how things are going in some days in the future. up next, the rift on the right over social security and medicare and the powerful

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the republican rift over entitlements appears to be getting worse by the hour. just a short time ago in florida, senator rick scott ripped into senate minority leader mitch mcconnell blasting him for, quote, backing up president biden who scott claims is mischaracterizing his position on social security and medicare. it comes after mcconnell made the rare move of going against his fellow republican senator disowning scott's plan to sunset government programs every five years including entitlements. >> that was the scott plan, that's not a republican plan. that was the rick scott plan. the republican plan, as i pointed out last fall, if we were to become the majority there were no plans to raise taxes on half the american people or to sunset medicare or social security. so it's clearly the rick scott plan. it is not the republican plan.

>> with me now nbc's julie tsirkin on capitol hill. brendan buck is back with me as well. i saw a tweet that i thought characterized the unusual nature of what mcconnell said. i'm going to quote it here. mcconnell hates losing, he wants to regain the senate majority. every seat matters in 2024, so for him to say something damaging about scott in his own re-election bid underscores just how much he loathes him and blames him for their losses in 2022. what do you see going on here? >> reporter: this is incredible personal drama that you don't usually see in the senate, and these two have been going at each other for a while now. as mcconnell referenced there, rick scott put out this plan last year, and it caused the uproar, and mitch mcconnell threw him under the bus then, he continues to throw him under the bus now. you rarely ever see that. this is a person who was supposed to be winning back the senate last year and failed. i think the bottom line is mitch mcconnell is a lot better at

politics than rick scott is, and i think that's really important to appreciate. rick scott, there was almost no chance republicans were actually meaningfully going to try to do anything on medicare or social security, but rick scott put them in the position where joe biden can take swings at them all day long, and it's very clear that this is part of joe biden's re-election campaign is to paint republicans not only as extremists but wanting to take away your medicare and social security and rick scott made that much easier for him, and it's made a lot of people very angry, and i think that's why you saw at the state of the union, all of those republicans were very eager to stand up and make very clear that they're not interested in doing that because they understand the political threat that exists and certainly if you have no chance of actually accomplishing something on these issues, why walk that plank right now. >> so julie, it is not like scott is the only republican who's ever called for a change to entitlements, but does this tell us anything about nervousness in the gop as a

whole that biden's attacks might stick? >> reporter: what's sticking here is rick scott's plan that he proposed a year ago to this date that mcconnell immediately disavowed. they're nervous for good reason. unlike rick scott, mcconnell remembers when he was in the senate when other folks proposed these plans. you know, paul ryan and mitt romney ran on a ticket ten years ago in which then president obama capitalized on in the white house. you're seeing this divide between rick scott and mcconnell on a very public stage here. it's because of all that history here. we've seen senator mike lee even rick scott trying to tailor those comments they made about social security and medicare in the past to try to shift the blame here and shift the focus, but it's clearly not working. because it's not just president biden. i asked majority leader schumer last week why democrats keep talking about the fact that this is something that's on the table when clearly mccarthy and mcconnell have said many times it's not, and he said it's

because of the fringe, the maga republicans. he talked about the 20 holdouts or so in the house that he fears could bring this top of the agenda again. of course both sides hear, democrats and republicans do agree that these programs need reforms in order for them to be solvent after 2035. there's not enough time before the election year for both of them to sit down, come together and figure out what those reforms logically could be. a very tense moment here, and it makes sense politically why there's such a lift. >> is part of the problem they want budget cuts but they haven't said here's what they will be. in the meantime, the democrats and biden basically get to fill in the blanks? >> reporter: yeah, and that's probably my biggest problem with the republican approach. they said the debt is an existential threat to the country. this is our moment to do something about it. we can't touch medicare, we can't touch social security, we can't touch the department of defense.

i think we do need to reform medicare, social security, but you have to bring the country along to do that. that's why you don't just plop something like this out, have no conversation about it, don't make any real effort to explain to people why it's necessary. look, some of this goes back to the trump era. donald trump very clearly decided we were no longer the party of solving these problems and a lot of people have been following him ever since. but until we start getting, you know -- kevin mccarthy is going to say over and over again that medicare and social security are not on the table. until they actually get to the table, until you actually start seeing what that deal is going to look like, they can basically paint them with think color they want to. >> well, we're going to see what happens because this is just the beginning, but boy is it going up and up and up. julie, brendan, thank you so much. we'll talk again. pennsylvania senator john fetterman spent a second night in the hospital and no word today to indicate he's been

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scorpion unit. nbc's priscilla thompson has been following the case and joins us now. tali farhadian weinstein is back with us. what can you tell us about these other cases the d.a.'s office is now reviewing and maybe even more they could be reviewing? >> yeah, chris, the d.a.'s office tells me they are reviewing all past and pending cases related to these five ex-officers who have now been charged with murder. they declined to say how many cases that might be or give exact details on those cases, but i spoke to one man, monterrious harris who says his case should be among those reviewed. he says just three days before tyre nichols was brutally beaten, he had a violent encounter with the same officers in the same neighborhood, and a police affidavit confirms that those five officers were involved in his arrest. police say they were at an apartment complex when mr. harris drove at them at a high rate of speed, that they approached his car and they smelled marijuana at which point

mr. harris put the car in reverse and attempted to flee. but mr. harris says that a group of men approached his car. they did not identify themselves as police, and he thought he was being carjacked, and so he did, in fact, try to drive away. he says that when he got out of the car, he realized that they were police, but take a listen to what he told me happened next. >> he grabbed me, and he slung me around and another officer grabbed me, and then they began to hit me and punch on me and one of the guys threw me to the ground, hit my head on the concrete. it kind of busted my head open a little bit. >> and harris is now suing the city of memphis and all nine officers in all who were involved in his arrest. the city did not respond to our request for comment, but the police department says they are investigating the scorpion unit in its entirety, and the d.a.'s office says that this could call into question more of the cases that were brought by the

scorpion unit outside of just those -- the cases involving those five officers, chris. >> tali, as we said, that could be countless cases from the scorpion unit that have to be reviewed. how much of a night mare could that be for prosecutors who are working on these cases? >> this is really challenging work. i've done this work myself, chris, but it is absolutely essential to make this move from individual accountability and justice in tyre nichols' case and to move on to systemic reform, and there are models here in new york city in this past year, hundreds of cases in various boroughs were dismissed or vacated because the credibility of one police officer who was involved in them was called into question. so it's hard, but it can be done. >> thank you both. have good weekends. appreciate you taking the time. a moment of racial reckoning after more than 100 years of discrimination. why this weekend's super bowl

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cpr on damar hamlin even got a vote for nfl mvp, which went to kansas city quarterback patrick mahomes. this year's super bowl is making history. the first time two black quarterbacks will compete for the coveted lombardi trophy. shaq brewster is live from the home of this year's game, glendale, arizona, i don't know how you got that assignment, shaq, good for you. talk to us about the historic nature of this super bowl, and what we're expecting from the big game? >> reporter: hi there, yes, i definitely lucked out on this assignment. you talk about the historic aspect of this game. that was something that patrick mahomes was asked about earlier this week in a press conference. he said, yes, it's something he thinks about a lot. especially the impact it will have on people coming into the game, the younger kids. if patrick mahomes wins the super bowl he'll be the first black quarterback to win more than once, to win that trophy more than once.

eagles quarterback, if he is victorious, he'll become the fourth black quarterback to lead his team to victory. you'll see historic moments happen, especially in the league with questions about diversity, and something that fans told me it's on top of their mind. i want you to listen to what one fan told me just yesterday. >> quarterbacks like warren moon weren't allowed to play in the nfl. now you see this generation, they're allowed to flourish, not just by their skin color but the way they play the game. >> reporter: do you think it's going to be a normal thing? >> i do. absolutely. >> reporter: so there's a history that you'll see on the field but also around the game. you'll also see some firsts being made. talking about the commercials, something that many people watch. this will be the first time, a 30-second ad will cost more than $7 million. that's a number you're seeing tick up year after year. this is a sign of the times, the

first time a super bowl will be held in a state where sports betting is legal. in fact, i spoke to the ceo of the bet mgm sports book that's actually on the campus of state farm stadium. he told me it's a moment he never thought would come, a shift in the culture of sports where you see betting so ingrained in the actual sports itself. >> if you were a betting man, shaq brewster, who would your money be on? >> reporter: i asked the ceo, who should i place a bet on. he said they want me to place a bet on kansas city. we'll see what i actually do. i haven't made a decision yet. i'm not usually a betting man. i might get into it this time around. >> thank you so much for that, you covered about four different stories. all right. turns out it's not just the super bowl for football fans but for pizzerias, as well. because pizza is the most popular food at super bowl parties. last year, americans ordered an estimated 12 1/2 million pizzas

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