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under president donald trump, christopher miller he served in the position immediately following the 2020 election until president biden took office. he is out this week with a new book titled, soldier secretary. warnings from the battlefield and the pentagon about america's most dangerous enemies when we watched on january 6th, did you not than have any concerns coming out of that day? about how far trump could potentially go, when you saw what happened up on capitol hill, you sounded like you were very calm? >> i just never saw any indications of that. i was not on the political side, or remember, we put 25 national guard troops on capitol hill, way after that was going on, so the dynamics changed considerably. i never once thought that the president was going to try to stay in power beyond

inauguration. >> so let's talk about drewsville for. there those are over there late. >> i completely disagree with, you jonathan, and -- wait, go ahead, i'm sorry, i'm in your house, i should let you -- i should not interrupt. i'm sorry. >> this is the exchange we want to have. [inaudible] >> so walk us through the timeline. former president trump, he says, we have to have a lot of trips, their big crowd, i'm taking the steps that i need to keep the process in the city safe. can you clarify for us, what happened? did you ever get that sort of order? >> the president absolutely said provide whatever military support is required, to protect the dynamics for the protesters that. day people characterize that -- >> he said that you? >> yes. to me. >> so you were talking to him during -- the >> no, days prior. on 16, the president gave me all the authority are needed. green berets, bushel operator, i had all --

i had mission intent. and i had everything i needed. >> so you said, up to, you never saw any indication that he wanted to continue his presidency beyond the fact that he lost. now, looking back, do you see that he did? >> no, i don't. the question you're asking is -- i saw the 16 committee, and i participated, i did, what, eight and a half hours of testimony, a diverse in the house, eight hours in the senate. and i never once felt that there was a political factor here, you guys will know more about it than i'll ever know. >> i'm just talking about donald trump wanting to stay on the on the under this presidency. >> and let me clarify here -- >> looking back with all the information that is available to us -- >> via -- >> that he was trying to continue his presidency beyond his duration.

he lost. and he was trying to stay in power. do you see that now? >> do i see that no? i see a lot of accusations, he's been impeached, we have the 16 committee thing. i'm still open minded. but, you know, i sound like i'm spinning, you're looking at me -- >> there's a lot of evidence, and very, very clear information. he even says it now. >> i'm still learning, and that's all right. i got harangued when i was up in the house, oversight committee, here's a question i'm trying to find. here's a question i want to answer, that i don't think has been answered. was the president involved in a conspiracy directly? >> you just said you had all the power you needed to deploy the forces in january the 6th. when micah and i were watching it, when general powell was watching it, when i'm sure everyone at this table was watching it, we saw the lights go on for a couple, hours we were all asking the same thing. where the hell is the national

guard? where the hell or the troops? we've already told jonathan you don't think you waited too long. please explain to us your thoughts, and why you delayed past a time when most of us were -- we became very uncomfortable. with that decision making. >> so, i think what we found, i think one of the best things that came out of the 16 hearings, was the timeline. because for the long time we could not see it or show it on tv. it's so confusing,, and that's the nature of these things. it's hard to tell what's going on. but about 2:35, when it was finally the capitol hill police, congressional leadership, making the decision to request the national guard. >> a 2:35 -- >> to 35, i kind of did this -- >> and for those of you who said, why didn't the president give you the call, you say he had already given you the power.

>> yes. >> to do this? >> but you say you -- he gave you the power to have all the trips necessary to protect the demonstrators. was there something about a different stream of protecting the demonstrators, and protecting the capitol? >> yes because the capital is a legislative branch, it's a separate branch, our present the executive branch, the military, you do not go to capitol hill with the military unless you're invited by congressional leadership. if you do need different it's called a military coup and i was really concerned about that. >> i'm wondering whether i should look back -- >> you are fighting the last where you didn't want to over miller ties. but at the end, my gosh, our capital got overrun. that count of been the right outcome. i >> understand or you got there, with that count of been the right outcome. >> first off, david, it wasn't a war because the armed forces of the united states don't fight their fellow citizens except during civil war. we weren't even close to that. that's kind of the hyperbole

that bothers me a lot of these conversations. so it wasn't a war. these people who are exercising their constitutional rights, we're absolutely concerned about miss utilization. remember, you guys live in the city, or some of you do. the national department was flying helicopters down the streets to harass, rightfully constitutionally protected demonstrated. i was absolutely concerned about miss utilization of the national guard. he was a hyper partisan environment. there was no way i was going to force the armed forces in this political frame beyond what they already were. i understand what you're seeing, i understand the questions, and i thank you for letting me have my piece finally, to say these things. i was horribly concerned it would be overly militarized. >> as that day progresses, and you have just crazy people storming the capital, banging fewer windows, brutally attacking -- >> cops --

>> yeah, it just seems like it's accidental or memories. you're in the pentagon, you're watching it, what do you think in? >> i know that the military was going to -- that the -- in the preparation for all of this, the police said that they can handle between 1 million demonstrators, and david, on those calls -- >> when you see the police you're talking about the days -- the d.c. police? >> the d.c. police. i have ultimate respect for chief conte. he had all hands on deck. he took people to the hospital. he was standing on the corner. >> but if you watch that, you know it had -- >> law on law enforcement said they could handle up to 1 million demonstrators. it was very clear to me in this conversation, that there was a thought bubble going off about, like, they're talking politically, nice, but the thought bubble was keeping the dog on military off the street. 10,000 people, with david -- >> but you gather, the mayor of

washington d.c. said the morning of january 6th for us, go ahead -- >> 10,000 cops in the street, that's a light infantry desert -- division. we took panama with 10,000. i think they can control washington d.c.. that is not the role of the armed forces. this is the key thing. i keep harping on this, it's my calling, till the day i die, is the armed forces should never be used for domestic law enforcement until civil disorder has broken out. your question now is what happened on capitol hill? i don't know who we still know how many cops were up there? i wish i could do it all again, i absolutely would, he would be great if the cavalry would've rhoden and save the day. but when i step back now, i have a different depression now. two plus years to think about this. i am so grateful, and i'm so satisfied that our soldiers, and airmen, in this case, we're not writing american citizens. and that's what we have cops

for. and we only use, people don't join the military to fight their own citizens. so it was a tragic -- tragedy, a horror day for america. we will be right back. back.

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watching morning joe weekend. let's get right to. met >> a new piece in the bulwark, entitled, can this, black latina, progressive, pro police da turn san francisco around? she has this to say about our next guest, quote, over the past two years, the city has oscillated wildly, electing one of the most left-wing prosecutors in the country in 2020. then recalling him along with a bunch of other locals officials later. now they're trying a different approach. and many are hoping that the city's new district attorney, a biracial 41 year old east bay mom, offers a synthesis of crime stopping and criminal justice reform, that can be the answer.

so through this the san francisco district attorney joins us now. what an answer. what do you think you can do differently and the two-pronged approach that you are taking towards crime? >> yes. and thank you for having me. right, i think that as we know, democrats, liberals, progressives, want to make sure that we are doing everything to make our criminal justice system more fair. but as human beings, we also want to feel safe, so what i've tried to offer them is the approach i've used over the last eight years as a prosecutor in the courtroom. which, is responsible methods of alternatives to incarceration, while still making sure that we have accountability for those that commit crime. >> one of the things that i think is really interesting, because national politics are reporting here. the kinds of things you're talking about, that striking a balance between criminal justice reform and being you know, pro police, and defunding

the police, biden talked about that in the statement. the union address. and that is something that national democrats have been trying to figure, out how do you strike that balance? it is something that can bond into a national movement. how can democrats talk about it and legislate these kinds of issues? >> absolutely. i believe that we have to push forward with democrats to make sure that the laws that we enact, the legislation that we enact, supports a society where we could have order, when we can a public safety, and we emphasize it as a part of our platform. simply talking about the fact that we need a farm and then doing away with assistance that we need in order to keep us safe is not going to be sufficient anymore. >> good morning district attorney jenkins, great to have you on the show. so, there's a lot of people, as you know, residents in san francisco who feel like a truly great city in san francisco has lost its way in the last couple years with hopeless --

homelessness, property drug use, people walking in stores taking whatever they want. how do you begin, and what do you need, and to reverse that idea about where your city is right now? >> right now, i've got to enforce consequences for a period of time. over the last two years, people committing crime here felt there was no threat of being caught. and even if they were caught by police, there was no true threat of a consequence. so i've had to come in and completely shift that narrative. schiff that reality. to make sure that they understand, yes, there is accountability. there are consequences. and work closely with the police department to ensure that we are arresting as many people as we can, as this lawlessness continues. so we are having to work together, collaboratively, to make sure that we are moving the ball forward. so that everybody understands, residents, business, owners that we are not tolerating this city anymore. and those committing the crimes

understand they probably should think to do it elsewhere. >> one of the things you said, is your, down i think the numbers were 600 police officers in your department, jobs you need to fill, people look at the job and say, well they don't even give us the tools to do the job, we arrest somebody, the rock on the street with the elimination of cash bail and all of that. that's not a driver monstrous student. and you convince police officers to sign up, train, during the academy, and work in your city? >> you're absolutely correct. we are all -- down almost 600 officers here in san francisco, and have tried to do my best to go around, actually, to each of the police stations, to tell the rank and file directly, that we are now a da's office that appreciates the work that they do. of, course we want them to engage in proper and appropriate a fair -- and fair policing but when they do, bring us the case make sure there's appropriate accountability. some of the things that have been working against people being interested in becoming police officers are not just da's who refused to hold

criminals accountable. but also legislators, both at the local and state level, making it very difficult for them to do their jobs. so we just have to make sure that when we look work to make systems more bare, we don't do away with the tools that we need in order to keep our public safe completely. >> district attorney jenkins let's talk for a moment if you will about repeat offenders. and judges perhaps letting them back out on the streets much earlier than prosecutors suggest they should with sentences. how does that complicate your job? what solutions do you have? >> it certainly is a factor. and we've been going in and particular on the fentanyl issue, asking better -- while our cases are open. initially we were not getting much traction at all with the course, and we found overtime we've had to enhance and go in on our arguments to make sure that they truly understand the dangers that these individuals present, who are selling one of

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very strong views. but last, night very strong views from all of our guests. what was your take on that? >> i also thought he did a great job last night, but american people saw an optimistic president, sam before the country, expresses confidence vote to the country. he's prepared to work with republicans. to finish the job on things like creating jobs, growing our economy, bringing prices down, the soon but, also making clear that he standing up to -- if they are going to try to pass a national abortion ban. they saw the president do has been working successfully on the bipartisan basis, these past two years, say that he's got a chiraz -- republican class, and ask them to join him to finish the drive. >> robin, good morning, i think also publicans agree, the idea of washington working together,

and speaker pelosi just a few moments ago on her said, that her and it showed no willingness to work with them. in, fact sitting on his, hands as he talked about most things americans agree. on for instance, bringing down the price of insulin. now applies for those lines. how do you get to bipartisanship with this congress? >> well look, willie, there's always president -- republicans fighting the president since day one. and obviously they're still in congress perhaps in larger numbers in both the house and senate who will to make this country leading the world taken in the infrastructure chiraz.

high tech manufacturing, jobs back to america. we invented the computer chip, your thoughts put people to. work six figure jobs, even for people who don't have a four-year degrees. surely, there can be bipartisan support on continuing. that and some of the things specifically the president talk about, whether there should be bipartisan action, things like fighting cancer, these are things that should not be partisan issues chiraz -- >> lauren i, wonder if any polish sinks you on the terms of you're going. out after two years, and the union speech, perhaps it's not going to be quite as rosier. and you are facing a period in which the republicans are going to launch investigation after investigation into hunter biden, the handling of afghanistan, the handling of the border. the host of issues, and they will be relentless on the

issues. it's going to, be in reality, very difficult to get anything else done over the next two years. and then you get into an election campaign, in which the polls suggest a lot of americans have relied serration's around joe biden running again, because of his age. and i just wonder where you think your hand -- a little bit of a hardness you had over the last two years chiraz. >> yeah, and i know they do a great job, but when i showed up for work on the first day two years ago, we had 3000 americans dying every day from covid. we had a 9/11 event every day in this country from covid. with schools closed chiraz we had the first economic crisis since he won in this country chiraz. the fact that they seem like good times shows how much we've overcome. how much work we've done to get to this place. so, people have been

underestimating joe biden and chiraz. i've a lot of confidence with the team's ability with the president, to get progress the next two years. >> and you also walked into the white house two weeks to the day, after the worst attack on american democracy since the civil war. >> that's for sure. so i guess as part of your exit interview, i'm curious what your advice is for jeff signs, as just in a few hours who will take the reins of hugo staff of the white house chiraz. >> we've built the best team to work on the white house. experienced, savvy, most diverse team was ever worked in the white house. the first time guaido staff have a majority that to mail. and so i told him who behind. the most talented, determined, and dedicated people, they

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for women in politics. especially at the state level. record setting, count them, 12 female governors. eight democrats, four republicans, are in office this year. shattering both age and gender norms. and six of those women governors, all dems, representing both red and blue states, join me on the set today. welcome to all of you, governors, gretchen whitmer of michigan, michelle lujan grisham of new mexico, tina kotek of oregon. laura kelly of kansas. janet mills of maine. and kathy hochul of new york. and you're all in washington for the national governors association meeting here, but from what i understand, you all get together a lot. that is kind of a bond that's been created here. >> yeah, no question, we've all been through fire, right? especially the last couple years. and being able to connect with my colleagues, you know,

troubleshoot, help one another, just even too, you know, have someone who understands the unique moment and job that we all have. we're all human beings, we are all ordinary people, but we have extraordinary roles. serving on extraordinary circumstances, and so to have a friend to call, someone who understands, and who can help, i think it's really powerful. it's really important. and no one else is doing jobs like this, who could possibly understand all the challenges that were put through. >> exactly. >> exactly. and as women, it's a whole new world. there are more and more of us in leadership positions, governor hochul, first female governor of the state of new york. we appreciate that. is there -- like, can you come in a an example of a time when you can think of, when you all came together to support each other? i, mean what's the lesson men can take away from this playbook? >> well pierre -- >> or hazing her a little bit -- >> it is quite extraordinary.

because, all these women have been through the experience that i went through. they had to run for office a few months ago, it was a very tough, year nationally, a lot of people were predicting our demise. and so even just that steel, that you have to have in your veins, to get through this, it's hard. it's hard. and you can talk about what had to do our kids, my daughter was there. governor whitmer's daughter was there. we talk about the sorority of the children of mothers who ran for office, and i say, please don't write the book anytime soon. but there's something that families go through, even just getting together recently, how to strategize, what my colleagues tex got through, we all kind of talk about, you try this, you try this. so i think there's a lot of shared stories and experiences -- >> i wonder if the support of this group is helpful, given the fact that it's, there are moments that are not great. to say the least. that is the understatement of the world.

but for you, especially, you've been through it. >> we've all had a taste of, that to one extent or another, and i think that is something that is really important to share. i was talking, you, know maybe -- i'm the only woman in the group. i'm the one who convenes a lot of the calls, by the way, but there is, in question, you're making all the tough decisions in the world around covid, and you take so much more heat for, it why is that? >> is he the world -- the word that's really used? >> we get a lot of more colorful language -- >> but it's the last word, and he, said don't answer that question. i know the answer. it's because you're the woman who's making the hard decisions. but i know that governor kelly dealt with a lot of the ugliness and misogyny, governor lujan grisham, everyone has dealt with it, in some respect or another. >> yeah, we're changing the norms. i'm only the third woman to follow another woman. the second, is governor

grisham. the norm of women following women in the governor's office, we have to change that. and we are doing it. but we have -- >> i have the 50/50 list. which is success -- successful, i believe everyone hears over 50. right? >> yeah. >> do you ever imagine your career in your 50s, and your greatness in fact being over 50? gretchen whitmer. >> i thought i was gonna be a sports broadcaster, so i never could've father and i would've been sitting here, governor the great state of michigan. >> okay, governor lujan questions. i >> thought it was gonna be a comedian, and in some respects, i follow through with that. >> so no, i didn't seek a political career, it happened. but i love. it and i love my job, i love the impact i'm having. >> governor tina kotek. >> i was reflecting being back in d.c., almost four decades ago now. i was a student here. i was in college. seeing homelessness for the first time. it was the reagan years. and now as governor, i'm, you

know, slowing our homelessness and housing issues in oregon. i'm proud to be there. no one plans for this at the end of the day, but i think we're all glad to have the role. >> and governor clip -- kelly did you plan in your twenties for having your most impact, your greatest career challenge, after the age of 50? >> 70? >> seriously? did you ever imagine? >> no, i did not imagine. i really wanted to replace mickey mendelsohn for the new york yankees. that was michael. >> you still can, clearly, there's time. but there's other things to do, right? >> there's other things to do. and i have to say that, you know, i have a very fulfilling career, before i actually became governor. before i became state senator. but there's no doubt that has given me more satisfaction than this one. >> just curious, when you are in your twenties, did you say, oh, what i'm 55, when i'm 65, i'm going to be -- >> yeah, i dropped out of college. i want to san francisco, summer of love, that's how old i am. and then i had tried through

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watching morning joe, weekend. >> in just like mom, you know that she had a big battle she comes bearing gifts. come on in here mom. come on in here mom. she's joining us, and she -- mom. mom, you're bringing in these cookies, probably cooking these cookies forever for these guys. >> okay, that moment last night in phoenix as players and coaches met the media before a big weekend in preparation before leading to sunday super

bowl. >> donna kelsey, the mom of t travis kelce and eagles jason kelce. they are two of the best to play their respective conditions. jason won the super bowl in 2018 with the eagles, and travis following the wind of his own, two seasons later, with the chief. sunday's gonna march the fourth time they played against each other professionally, and donna joins us now. how exciting. i have to say, donna, first of all, we're talking about my 14-year-old son jack. one of his favorite christmas presents, number 87 for the chiefs. your son. but i saw your boy is talking on a clip, earlier this week, i was so moved by how sweet travis, was explaining how everything he does, he does an inspiration because of jason.

and jason really took that, in and it really moved him until travis leave over and kissed him on the forehead. . >> yeah, i know a lot of younger kids look up to their older brother and sisters, you know for support, how to do things, street cred, whatever. and that was no different with travis. he really did look up to his big brother, he was chancellor trying to get his attention, which turned to some fights here and there, but all in all, they're very close. because of the nfl, over the past several years they haven't been able to see each other because the nfl is very demanding, and you have a lot of outside interest and activities as well with the teams. but this year they have been able to reconnect, and get really close, so it's awesome. >> and travis had said to his

brother that he wears 87 as a tribute to him. >> yes. yeah. yeah, that was the year that jason was born. and he was trying to pick a number, and trying to decide what he should pick, and he didn't want to pick numbers that were already linemen that were playing at the time. but he just -- he just said, i have to wear this number, i just have to wear it. i'm here because of him, i followed him, he gave me the belief that i could do it, and so that's why he wears number. >> i love that story. donna, good morning, it's willie geist we're so happy to have you on the show. as a parent of two kids, they do anything great in a game, they get one basket in a game, they make the cut in the three on the team, you're just thrilled for them. and here you are, with two sons who have climbed the ladder so high, not only making the nfl, not only both being all pro players, the best at their positions, but now they're playing against each other in the super bowl. just as a mom, what is this like?

>> yeah. it's like you won the lottery. you know, to go from middle school football, to high school, to college, to get to the pros, and actually to play. to be playing for this many years, to get super bowls, and then to play against each other, i mean what are the odds of that? it's just, it has to be astronomical. we should have been playing the lottery, i'll tell you, for sure. [laughter] >> it is astronomical, it's a first time it's ever happened, two brothers playing the super bowl. i have to ask you, on behalf of players everywhere, on behalf of parents everywhere. what did you feed these boys? >> we couldn't keep food in the house. especially my favorites, when i would go to a restaurant and bring home leftovers, i put my name on, it tape on, it was gone the next morning. so it was, it was constant going to the grocery store. really when they left for

college, i got a raise. because, i didn't have to feed them. so it was awesome. [laughter] >> so don, i'm curious also as a parent. did you have to compel them to be involved in athletics? like my mom did with my brother, she threw them out the door, or was it natural for them? >> you know, the good thing was, athletics camp kept them from breaking things in the house. >> yeah. >> so that was awesome. so a lot of broken windows, a lot of lamps on the floor that were broken. basically, they would come to us, they would tell us what they were interested in, and we will try the best that we could, with the timing, and the scheduling, and financially, to see if we could help them out. and they just loved every sport there was. they would rather be outside playing basketball, playing football, playing lacrosse, hockey, i think jason did a state with wrestling. they just tried it all.

i think this is why they're so well-rounded, they have been able to find things in every single sport to bring to football. i think that's helped them in the game. >> that's so impressive. so -- you're not choosing, are you? you're not choosing? >> no, no, no. the good thing is that they both have won under their belt. if one of them didn't, it be easy, i hope the other one would win. but on this instance, it's pure joy. this is the first time i'm actually gonna be able to enjoy the game. i mean, be able to go there, and just scream my head off no matter what is involved. you know, i just hope it's a high scoring game. i really do. >> i really hope there is a camera on you, donna kelce, thank you very much for coming on the show. good luck? i mean, i guess you don't need it. >> yeah, yeah i'm a winner. i mean, i'm a winner no matter what, so this is awesome. >> we'll be right back. >> we'll be right back

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shade of blue from the head musical comedy some like it hot on broadway. the show is based on the 1959 movie of the same name, which the american film institute called the funniest american movie of all-time. the musical comedy is set in chicago during prohibition in the 1930s, and follows a story of two musicians forced to flee the city after witnessing a mob hit. the mob is tracking their moves, the duo joins a swing ban to travel across the country. will they be able to hide in plain sight? or will the mob catch up to them? joining us now the co-writer of the new broadway musical adaptation of some like it hot, the great amber ruffin, and one of the stars of the musical jay harrison g, who plays the america the character jerry, who. >> good morning to you both it's great to see you. >> good morning. >> i have a preview of the energy on this show, as you both were dramatically staying along to that clip, you love doing this show i can tell. >> were you also doing that? fantastic. >> oh it was a duet over here.

so i want to start with you, about how this came to be. people may know the 1959 marilyn monroe movie, it's based on that, but not exactly. let's say it's been updated all these years later. >> yeah, we really thought that we could get hold of this movie that every grandparent enjoys and we could make it something that every grandchild could enjoy right along with them. and i love to think that we did it. so families can come and see the show, and have a great time. >> so how do you approach that as a writer? you wrote the book as i said. how do you take a beloved piece of material, and updated without changing it too much. >> i co-wrote the book with matthew lopez, and we, i cannot say that we didn't change the book too much. we totally super did. [laughter] but you know, we just wanted the path to the most joyous version of the story. and i think we got it.

>> the reviews of this are off the charts. people love, it is so much fun, they're laughing, they can't believe how great the dancing is throughout. tell me about your character, and what you loved about jerry daphne. >> i love the journey, the experience i get to have every night and share with audiences, freeing yourself to see yourself. like, i get to go on this arc of expanding the human being that i am and i hope to encourage and inspire that an audience members who come see us and have a good time, and just to confuse a little drawing to our lives. >> are you able to feel the buzz around this show? in other words a crowds or bag, the crowds are energetic, they're singing along to some of the music now. what is that experience like for you on stage? >> it's incredible nightly to gauge the audience, in how they are receiving the show. those who from the top of the show, you know they're coming in hot, and they're like we love, it we're here for it. or those nights where we have to warm them up a little bit. but some like it hot, and that

ain't that. [laughter] >> what is like for you amber to c.j. and this incredible cast and see the book that you cowrote, and make it out into this beautiful production? >> yes i write on late night with seth meyer, and amber ruffin show, and when you do that, you write a little, jokes you given to people, you know for 1000 years, and they spent them out. but to take jokes that you have written, their feelings and stuff, and to hand them to actual actors is something completely different. and then those words that you wrote, they fill up an entire broadway theater. and that is quite a different feeling. >> it must be amazing to see and watch people react to the things that you wrote. >> so j., at the core of this, for people who will go see it, what is a story about? let's say sunday hasn't seen the 1959 movie and don't know anything about it. what is a story about you? >> the stories about freedom and authenticity, finding truth at all costs and allowing circumstances to expand you.

christian boylan i go on this journey together every night to save our lives, and we find better humans on the other side of it. and with that, we find joy with this beautiful music that scott women in mark chamber and wrote, and the incredible direction from casey nichols. it takes everyone on a journey, and it's a fine arc to have every night and share with audiences. >> and people are going crazy for it. i told you have tickets for my mom for christmas, some are gonna come see you guys in a couple of weeks. we cannot wait. >> you're going to love it, i guarantee it. >> you guarantee it. >> absolutely. >> for a woman whose name is on the marquee outside of our building at 30 rock. some like it hot playing on broadway at the schubert theater, you have to go see it. j. harrison ghee and amber ruffin, thank you both, great to see you. >> thank you for having us. >> thank you for watching, we'll see you next week. 'll see you next week. >> this is the katie phang show, live from mi