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we have lots of news to, cover and lots of questions to answer, so let's get started. the u.s. military shoots a mystery object out of the sky for the second time in less than a week. now the races on to figure out exactly what was in the sky over alaska. what we know so far, plus new details about what that chinese spy balloon was truly capable of. plus, trump's legal team reportedly hands over additional items with classified markings and a laptop. it comes as an fbi search of mike pence's home turns out another classified document, and pence himself faces a subpoena in the january six special counsel probe. when all of these developments tell us about where these investigations are headed. and later, michael cohen, trump's former personal attorney, meets with the manhattan district attorney for the 15th time, will join us live this morning to discuss that and everything else circling around trump world as these probes heat up.

all of that more is coming up. ♪ ♪ ♪ good saturday morning to you, i am katie phang. u.s. officials are learning more about the second flying object that was shot down, this time over alaska. in an exclusive interview with nbc news, alaskan senator, lisa murkowski says she was briefed and was told that the object is not a balloon. here's what we do know so far, the mystery object was about the size of a small car, pentagon officials say it was flying 40,000 feet in the air and was unmanned. the defense department was tracking it on thursday, and it was shot down on friday over water. this comes less than one week after a chinese spy balloon was shot down off the coast of south carolina. and this is all sparking more questions about america's border defenses. joining me now is nbc national

security and foreign affairs correspondent dan dilutes. dan, good morning, thanks for joining us. what else do we know about senator murkowski's private briefing? >> she is saying that it was, that she was told that it was not a balloon. so their sole mystery here exactly what this is. the u.s. did look at it relatively up close to those fighter jets, one to have a look before they shot it down, concluded that it was not manned. but also you heard u.s. officials yesterday from the white house and the pentagon saying that it didn't seem to have a proposed on its, on that it seemed to be traveling with the wind currents. so we are still waiting to hear exactly what this object was. and there is so many unanswered questions about it. >> dan, i know we're still very early on at this, but do we have any indication that this flying object was also used for

surveillance? >> that's right, there is no confirmation of exactly what this object was doing. no indication that it was necessarily conducting some kind of surveillance, or spying, they're saying you could be commercially owned. it could be privately owned. it could even be for research, and we just don't know that yet. so it's an awkward situation, and it's not easy to retrieve. keep in mind it's over the frozen waters off of alaska, and that is not exactly an easy convenient place to retrieve debris. i think you're asking about senator murkowski, and she did also make her point that the u.s. was going to defend its sovereign airspace, and its sovereign territory. she was pretty adamant about that. maybe we could hear what she had to say about that. >> to know that we have yet another unidentified object,

successfully shot down in alaska making sure that the message is clear, that any sovereign territory or airspace in this country, if there's a threat, if there's an incursion, there's gonna be consequences. >> so kind of a strong, firm message there from the senator about u.s. sovereignty. she said last week about the chinese surveillance arable in that did travel over alaska was not shot down in that case, of course that wasn't taken down until it was reversed the whole u.s. territory, it was taken down over the east coast on south carolina. >> dan de luz, thank you so much for joining us this morning, and for the latest. so how concerned should americas be about these aerial objects? what does all of this mean for our border defenses? coming up i'm gonna ask security expert, and former assistant to the president,

michael allen. now we're gonna turn to the group of investigation into donald trump and his associates. according to multiple reports, citing sources familiar trump's legal team a recently turned over additional items with classified markings and a lot of talk to the doj. they say they were found at mar-a-lago. cnn is also reporting that trump's team handed over a thumb drive, which some of the classified documents were copied onto. nbc news has not independently verified these reports, but for now, let's bring in john allen, senior national politics reporter for nbc news. john my friend, good morning, we have a lot more to discuss, but let's just start with these new items. and the bigger picture surrounding them. what can you tell us? >> well i think what we've seen with former president trump, and again, with some of the others involved in joe biden as, well mike pence, the classified document retrieval, is that there is a kind of drip drip drip to it. they found one document, two

documents, weeks later somebody finds another document. at some level it appears that they're looking for the needle in the haystack, and that takes a little bit of time. >> jon, well snow is not just donald trump, the fbi finding another classified document. but this time at the home of former vice president mike pence. what is the latest on that discovery? >> yeah, mike pence advisor, said yesterday that the search was conducted and what they found was seven documents, six without classified markings, one with a classified markings. of course, the fbi and the national archives and records administration were interested not just a classified documents, but documents that might be subject to the presidential records act, so not classified, but once that should've been turned over. it's interesting, the pence situation, donald trump is defending pans, even though

he's often attacked him. nobody on the democratic side is suggesting that pence would've done any of this intentionally. of course he himself is acting most forthcoming of any of the three main figures here. reminds me a bit of the kid in cooney's, the heavy kid, he's asked by the criminals to tell them what he's done, and he starts talking about everything he did back in third grade. you know, this is pence just -- he's been much more forthcoming than everyone else. not just complying with it. >> i also think president biden has also consensually agreed to a lot of this stuff. so maybe biden and pants are trying to set an example that donald trump failed to do. jon allen, thank you sort for joining us this morning, thank you. >> thank you katie. >> i also want to know what is the significance of if these documents were copied and shared electronically. coming up we have started to talk about the legal -- of the reporter laptop and thumb drive. now we're gonna turn to the

latest in rescue efforts in turkey and syria, following the deadly 7.8 magnitude earthquake there. more than 23,000 people have been killed, including at least three americans. new video coming in from syria showing the extraordinary rescue of a young girl from the rubble of a destroyed home. this rescue comes as temperature remain below freezing across the region, and many survivors are without shelter. for more on all of this, and another amazing road rescue, we turn to nbc correspondent matt bradley in gaziantep, turkey. >> yes katie, it's been more than five days since a catastrophic earthquake followed by an almost as devastating aftershock struck this area right around turkey, and neighboring syria. i'm in gaziantep right now, in front of the building like so many others where there was about 50 people, only 25, around 25, half of the bodies from here have been recovered, and of those casualties that

have now surged past 24,000 we understand from the u.s. city department that there are three americans. the state department has given us precious few details, except for that number, three. they haven't given us any identities or where they were at the time. but you know, this is an all about death. even five days after all of this, last night we saw it leads to people carried out alive after an hours long rescue effort from a building not far from here in the city of adiyaman. assisting them, where sea of american from fairfax county, virginia, now this went on for hours, as i mentioned. it was a unique rescue effort, not only because it was so long after the initial quake, well longer than the 72 hours that most experts say is the golden period when we can expect to find victims alive. this was also because this was done, lead, not by rescue workers, but by turkish coal miners. and they constructed an effort that resembled a coal mine,

using pieces of wood that they were chopping up. and again, the u.s. actually took the back seat here. they were waiting in the wings, and they provided medical care when this, mother and eventually her child were taken out. we were there the entire time, it was just gut-wrenching, an emotional. but ultimately, an incredibly hopeful scene to watch. now we understand, actually, the mother who was taken out, told her cousin, who told our local producer, that there are other people who are still, they're impossibly still alive inside that wreckage. and that they were in communication with the mother before she was taken out. their fate, like so many others here in turkey, and in northern syria, remain unknown. katie. >> those images are absolutely -- . matt badly, thank you. coming, up the special counsel investigating those trump in the january 6th attack subpoenas is former vice president mike pence.

what that tells us about the probe, and whether we could be nearing the end. plus, michael cohen sits down with the manhattan da for the 15th time. why he says that case against trump is ready to take off. he joins me later this hour. ter this hour.

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developments involving donald trump and classified documents. this morning there are multiple reports that trump's attorneys have turned over to the justice department, more material found at mar-a-lago. that includes a folder, with classified markings though it's not clear what was in the folder if anything. abc news reports that according to multiple sources, when the trump attorney handed over the folder, he also informed agents that it had been electronically copied to the laptop of a trump aide. once the information was recovered, federal agents reportedly retrieved the laptop

from the aid, and the information was also copied to a thumb drive, which was also given to investigators last month. nbc news is not independently verified these reports, a spokesperson for trump gave a statement to abc news calling the probe a targeted politically motivated witch hunt. keep in mind though, this all came months after trump was subpoenaed for all classified records and materials in his possession. is there an endgame to all of this? here to discuss all of that and more, danny's of all, is criminal defense attorney, an msnbc legal analyst. danny, it's always so good to see you, let's talk with what i think is the worst part of this latest news. that some of these records and trump's possession have been copied electronically to a laptop, and a thumb drive. explain please for our viewers, the legal implications of that new information. >> well this is actually a common problem in litigation today, i mean documents are no longer just actual paper

documents but they're part of what we call csi electronically stored information and often in the old days you would get discovery, or documents in a big package when they were actually paper. now you get a thumb drive, or a drop box link. so the reality is, documents own no longer exist as one single document. they are spread all over the world in laptops, or even in the cloud somehow. i mean we can't rule out that some of these documents could be on someone's drop box folder somewhere many states away. so this is something that probably doj foretold, they were probably expecting this, because in the modern era, especially for us lawyers, we don't look at documents in pages anymore. we put them up is pdfs on a large computer screen. and that is how we review them. and we can send them out instantly to hundreds of people on email. >> yeah but you know danny, in this instance, before i get to my next question, this wasn't a lawyer, this was a trump aide,

and one that was working for the save america pact which is trump's favorite pack at this point. so the fact that it's not someone, it's someone who's not a lawyer, to think it changes the analysis? >> of course, i was just given the eighth example in litigation. but you're right, if you give it to your lawyer that's one thing, it could still be problematic. but giving it to someone clearly outside government, that's a huge problem. because you've established one of the elements, and not only one of the elements of a criminal statute, but one of the reasons this is a problem in the first place, we don't one classified documents getting into the hands of regular people. that's why they're classified. the classified because they could pose a threat to national, excuse, me security. >> all you catch your breath for a second wall asked an x question danny. what what does it mean though for the bigger picture? that trump's team is still finding things to turn over to the doj. jon allen talked in the last segment about the drip drip

drip of information. do you think it's time for special counsel jack smith to just indict trump, or do you think this drip of classified documents actually help the prosecution. >> the latter, i think you're right. if you're jacques mid use it, back in as trump sits back in more documents in a drip drip drip fashion, then jacks mitt can say oh, this is further evidence that you know you have, in your refusing to turn it over. >> danny, there's another big headline this week, special counsel jack smith subpoenas trump's former vp, mike pence. and his national security adviser robert o'brien, in special counsel's jack smith investigation into how trump, as well as trump's role in the january 6th insurrection. what does it tell you about the timeline of these investigations, if we're seeing subpoenas for these kind of heavy hitters at this point? >> if you look at doj rulebook

101, what you do is interview all of the people below the chain of command and then at the end of that is the boss. mike pence being the boss, you save up all of your documents so that when you talk to the boss you have your yellow notepad, you have all your documents, danya final questions answered that you need answered. >> danny, i am actually going to let you go, because i think that you're getting very emotional about it. [laughter] i'm kidding. i hope you're okay, i'm always grateful to have, you take care of yourself my friend, get some water, danny civil, is that you for joining us this morning, i appreciate you as always. coming up, u.s. officials are working to retrieve pieces of that flying mystery object that was just shot down over alaska. what we know so far, in the concerns that it's raising about our national security. t our nationalec surity.

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department of defense was tracking a high altitude object over alaska airspace in the last 24 hours. the object was flying at an altitude of 40,000 feet. and it posed a reasonable threat to the safety of civilians. an abundance of caution and after recommendation of the pentagon, president biden ordered the military to down the object. >> right now the united states officials are trying to recover debris from that mystery objects shot down over alaska in order to try and learn more about it. unlike the chinese spy balloon shot down last saturday, the pentagon says this object doesn't appear to have any surveillance capabilities. still, it sparking concern about our national security. alaskan leaders are calling for more support from the federal government. in a statement, governor -- unlike other states, alaska is

truly on the front lines. if the last few days are any indication, this may be the new norm and we must be prepared. michael allen joins meal now, he served on the national security council as a special assistant to president george w. bush. and he's also the managing director of beekin global strategies. michael, it's a pleasure to welcome you to the show this morning. the pentagon says the object was following air currents, and moving along a northeastern path. does that in any way to tell you, or say anything about where it could've originated from? or what it was doing and that air space? >> well, i think it was a highly manoeuvrable object and so i'm not certain that we'd be able to tell exactly where it came from. however, as we've learned with regard to the first bloom, which was shot down last weekend, the intelligence community has very sophisticated instruments and the ability to analyze a digital signature. so i think very soon we'll hear

from them about what the flight path might have been for the object that was shot down yesterday. >> so out as we've noted, this is the second object to be caught flying in u.s. airspace in less than a week. i know michael, we don't know the origin, or the providence of this second object. but how concerning does this become for national security at this point? have we reached a point where it's being viewed as some type of national security crisis? >> i think so, i think this is a tangible example for everyone in the country to be able to look and see that the chinese have sort of aggressive intentions. and they want to collect as much information on the united states military, and the way our national security protection of the continental u.s., how that works, and i think that this is what they are trying to do. that they are testing the system, i think the balloon that was shot down last weekend

is a terrific compliment to the satellite to the chinese have up in orbit. and so i think it's a bit of a wake up call if you will for the fact that the chinese through multiple platforms, there telecommunications platform, called huawei, which i think is another conduit for spying around the world. and even the personal data that we surrender to the chinese through tiktok. there's just numerous things that i think the chinese are up to, this is a good opportunity for us to just sort of think about that and get our selves in a good posture for -- for the geopolitical rival. >> this recent incident was resolved more quickly than last week's chinese spy balloon incident. do you think biden reacted in any way to the fact that there was criticism because of the delay and shooting it down? or do you think this was done because it was the safest and quickest way to be able to resolve this particular

incident? >> well, i think it's a little of both. i think i can take the explanation at face value, that it might have interfered with commercial aviation. but at the same time, i think the president learned that you know what, it's better to go ahead and take these things down sooner rather than later. we can't be completely confident that it's not the type of intelligence platform that could have unique collection over, for example, military bases and the like. so i think the less of it, the left in the last week is to take things down, the sooner the better, get them in a place where we can collect the debris, and analyze it, and figure out what kind of capabilities our adversaries have collected on the united states. >> mike i have less than a weekend, less than a minute, but i want to ask you, they're saying that this is showing that alaska is the most strategic place on earth for geopolitics. others may beg to differ, but alaska state officials are also calling on the president for

federal support. what could not support look like for alaskans? >> well, we do have tremendous missile defense and radar capability up in alaska. maybe he means we could do more there and i'm sure, you know, the protectors of the continental u.s., and of course hawaii, and alaska, and northern command will take that under advisement and see if there is not more that we could do there. but you know, i think the lesson of the balloon is, while it may have started up in alaska, it got down to the continental u.s., in transited the entire country. so i think it's not just alaska that may have an issue, although they may be on the frontlines. >> yes, it seemed like alaska may be a point of entry that we're all kind of looking at. i don't think alaska has had this much attention frankly since sarah palin. michael allen, thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you. >> coming up, former trump

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picking up speed. this is regarding the hush money paid on that behalf of donald trump to former adult film star stormy daniels. on over the past two weeks the prosecutors have been presenting evidence to a grand jury about donald trump's role in the payments. laying the groundwork for criminal charges. trump is accused of making 130,000 dollar payment to daniels back in 2016, to secure her silence over an alleged affair. his former personal attorney michael cohen has still attained that payment, any ended up stirring serving time in -- it wasn't meant to kate keep voters in the dark. trump, who denies the allegations was let off the hook at the time. but what about now? this week, cohen met with manhattan district attorney alvin broad. it's the 15th time he spoken with that office in connection to this probe, and michael cohen says he believes the office will be building a very strong case against donald

trump. joining me now this morning, is michael cohen. he is the author of the recent bestselling book, revenge, and he's also the host of two podcast, mea culpa, and the newest one, political beat down. michael, those two titles alone, plus your titles of your books alone, you know they're setting the table. but i have to ask you, already, you are scheduled to meet again with alvin bragg in its office this coming tuesday, is the third time now since he took over this case from cy vance. i know you can't give a lot, but can you give us some sense of what it -- what it entails when you sit down with his office. and why are so confident now that the manhattan da office will finally bring a case against donald trump? >> well again, they're bringing me in for the 16th time, three times as you rightfully stated with alvin bragg's team. at the end of the day, they're not bringing me in because there is nothing to talk about. or because they enjoy my

company. they are bringing me in because we are going through loads and loads of data. i mean they have a lot of information. just as -- so does this team. i have to be honest with you, i've gotten a chance now to meet the same individuals, this will be now the third time. and they are extremely confident, they're very well informed, and there is a lot of information to go over. it seems like it's an easy, you know, it's an easy case, with just hey, here's donald check, it's got a signature on it. here's cohen's testimony, and so there's a lot more that's being looked at because the seriousness of this case can of underestimated. and they're taking every single precaution that they possibly can. they're looking at every single minutiae of information in order to ensure that if they do bring an indictment, that they will secure a conviction.

>> michael, i have to push back and ask, hasn't this been done before under cy vance's tenure? i would have to assume that the manhattan's da's office under vance took that time to look at all the minutiae, took the time to look at documents. is there new evidence that alvin bragg's office has that you think might be able to move the needle even more so towards a successful prosecution of donald trump? >> i don't want to tip off the other side into what it is that we sit and talk about. the only thing i can say is that there was a lot of similar information that i had already gone over with the carry done, cy vance team. so this is repetitive for me. that is not repetitive for them, and we have to give them the opportunity, within which, to review the information, and to secure their own case. because they are the ones that are going to be bringing the

case. not mike and carrie does. though i have been very vocal and saying, i like mike pomerantz, believe that this case could've been brought one year ago. the question becomes why didn't they. i don't know, that would be something for cy vance to answer, why he didn't bring the case, it be something for alvin bragg to come forward and to say why. it's irrelevant at this point. right now, they are pursuing the case, there's already been people brought before the grand jury, and i, once again, will be reappearing to the da's office for another sit-down. >> michael, i had former federal prosecutor and counsel robert mueller, michael zeldin, on my show last weekend. i asked him specifically about brag bringing a successful prosecution. i want you to take a really quick listen, please. >> if you have a witness like cohen who has pled guilty to perjury, essentially.

and you have donald documents that are not clear on their face, then in my view, as a prosecutor, i'd want someone who is a more substantial witness. one who's really not easily impeached on cross examination, and that's why's. >> michael, what do you say to critics that think you don't have the credibility to help carry this prosecution across the finish line? in fairness to michael zeldin, he is not in the minority, there are people that have concerns that based upon what you've pled to, and based upon your own participation serving as personal counsel of donald trump, that maybe it's just not gonna be enough for alvin bragg's team. >> it's okay, i'm not gonna get into the, tit-for-tat with michael zeldin. he doesn't know anything other than what he reads in the paper, and what other people are saying. at the end of the day, first of, all i was not convicted of perjury. he should really know the charge. it was a -- it was 1001 violation of lying

to congress. then we have to go back, and i have to say to viewers, what was the michael cohen big lie? the big lie was the number of times that i alleged to have spoken to donald about the failed trump moscow project. i stated three, when the true answer was ten. and there are documents that show the back and forth that took place between jared, ivanka, between jay secular, abby lowe, myself, where we drafted it. donald wanted it to be a diminished number, and so i changed it from 10 to 3. if that's the big lie that's going to impeach my credibility, good luck to to fence counsel, that's not gonna work. on top of that, mueller's team, mueller's team, stood up at my sentencing and turned around and said every single thing that i told the mueller team was accurate, truthful, backed up by documents and other

corroborating testimony. so look, i can't say, i can't say anything more to that other then, we'll wait and see. i'm sure i'm gonna make a pretty good and strong witness. >> so michael, let's not forget that there's yet another probe, the special counsel's investigation also appears to be ramping up. special counsel jack smith subpoenaed mike pence informers and former national security advisor over trump's handling of classified documents. and his efforts overturn the 2020 election. i always ask you this question, but i don't think it's ever stale, because you do know donald trump very well. intimately well, in terms of the way his brain thanks. is trump finally at that point where he's hitting the panic button? >> i think he's hit the panic button a while ago, however, what he's very good at is hiding it. so anybody that's in the room with him would be able to attest to things that i had seen in the past, which is donald really losing it. but, in front of the camera, he

is calm, cool, and collect, because he's a sociopath. period, end of story. i will tell you one thing while watching the show, before i came, on you had michael allen on. and let me tell, you the real true danger to our national security are not these floating balloons that are out there. it's now, as you earlier reported, the fact that they copied these classified documents and they were sitting on a computer. this is what i had said on your show, how many months back? that we need to go, and we need to check every single place that donald trump has been since leaving office. and then we have to figure out, who was with him? because, if you really are concerned about national security don't worry about a weather balloon. don't worry about what information that they're seeing, through this, they already have people on the ground. we've been spying on china,

china's been spying on america. how about top secret documentation that's in the hands of donald trump? that's the clear present danger to america's national security. >> michael cohen, maybe you're gonna be testifying with special counsel jack smith concerning mar-a-lago document sometime soon. that would be interesting. but you know what michael, it would be one of several times that you have sat down with congress and with law enforcement. i want to thank you for sitting down with me this morning to talk about your upcoming meeting with alvin bragg. we'll have you back once we see an indictment from the manhattan da's office, but thank you for being here this morning. >> always good to see you katie. >> same. coming up, the gop's new subcommittee probing the so-called weaponization of the federal government. working quotes. i use that term loosely, republicans using the debut hearing to grandstand over their usual grievances. with the american public see right through the political theater?

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use of the subcommittee as a place to settle scores, showcase conspiracy theories, and advance an extreme agenda that risk undermining americans faith in our democracy. >> that is united states virgin islands delegate, stacey plaskett, the top democrat on the new house house weaponization subcommittee, arguing that her republican colleagues plan to use the subcommittee to weaponize congress against their political enemies, and, unfortunately, delegate plaskett's concerns appear to be justified. in the first public hearing this week, republicans, led by jim jordan, brought in a slew of fox news regulars to relitigate old, debunked grievances about media bias, hillary clinton, and the impeachment of former president, donald trump. and let's not forget, cancel

culture and censorship by big tech. while the hearing produced virtually no new evidence of government misconduct or targeting of the right, democrat jamie raskin, succinctly summarized what the republicans appear to be determined to do with this new panel. take a listen. >> millions of americans already fear that weaponization is the right name for the special subcommittee, not because weaponization of the government is its target, but because weaponization of the government is its purpose. >> to help us clear up what this new committee is really all about, i am fortunate to be joined this morning by congresswoman jasmine crockett. congresswoman, it is always a pleasure to have you on the show, how do you think democrats can actually use this weaponization subcommittee to investigate real abuses by the government, but under donald trump's reign? >> it is good to see you this

morning, and absolutely. the republicans may have the numbers, but we have all of the brains on our side, and i think that is what you are seeing is that we are very formidable. there was a portion of this hearing, the dan goldman participated in, he is my freshman classmate, but he is also a former trump impeachment officer. and so one of the things that he brought out was just a great understanding of how things are supposed to work, and he is not afraid to go after the chairman and call him out when he is not abiding by procedure. and he is simply just throwing things out there, he just wanted to throw things out there and say, oh, well you guys understand that there is dozens of people that have come to us from the fbi. we have talked to them, yet there is no evidence of any note, there is no depositions, there is no nothing that has been turned over to the democrats.

we know that this is just yet another extension of the maga agenda to seemingly confuse americans and rile them up with lies. >> the house oversight committee, congressman, also held a hearing this week, on what republicans say was twitter's role in allegedly suppressing news about hunter biden's laptop. the hearing backfired spectacularly on republicans when we learned this information, take a listen. >> what was a tweet about? >> would you like me to give the direct quote? >> yes. >> please excuse my language, this is a direct quote, but chrissy teigen referred to donald trump as a -- >> free speech. and what happens after miss teigen posted her tweet? >> the white house reached out to ask if this tweet may be removed. >> that is also florida

freshman congresswoman, maxwell frost, who is also a friend of the show. so it turns, out congresswoman, is that trump offers censorship when it seemingly benefits him, but what do you make of republicans, the so-called freedom party, wanting to meddle in the affairs of a private company like twitter? >> yeah, this is the definition of big government, right? the thing that they are allegedly against. they decided that big government is what they want to do so long as those that are supposed to be in control, whether it is the city, because we had to take a vote just this week on whether washington, d.c. can do as a city what it wants to do, is elected officials. and we also know that if twitter was not doing what they wanted it to do, then twitter just needs to be blown off the planet. but, no, we did an excellent job in this hearing. we absolutely derailed them, we are talking about people that have weeks to plan for this, we didn't even have our committee

assignments as freshman to be on this committee, and we absolutely pointed out the fact that, number one, joe biden was not a government actor. so even if you had evidence of him calling twitter for any reason, you can't say that the federal government was doing anything at that time, because he was not a government actor, but there was no evidence that he was attempting to run twitter as a private organization. in fact, what we were able to bring out is that it was just the opposite. that trump was trying to do these things, and in fact, that trump was treated in a different way, that these alarms literally would go off if anyone went and tried to do anything to the trump account. it was actually the amazing, and it was the only account that had these alarms set on it. it was insane. so this hearing only proved what we all knew, which is that it was donald trump that was trying to run twitter. it wasn't joe biden, and the democrats understand what the

constitution really means, and that the republicans need to go back and take a class on what free speech looks like. >> well, i am looking forward to seeing what you guys are all delivering on behalf of the democrats on this committee, maybe the fact that it is one of these new committees with a house majority gop really doesn't mean the gop will be able to dominate the conversation. congresswoman jasmine crockett, always happy to have you here, thank you so much for joining us this morning. >> absolutely. >> and we will be right back. uh, yeah, can we get a system where when someone's bike is in the shop, then we could borrow someone else's? -no! -no! or you can get a quote with america's number-one motorcycle insurer and maybe save some money while you're at it. all in favor of that. [ horn honking ] there's a lot of buttons and knobs in here.

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watching the katie phang show, velshi, is next. >> good morning, it is saturday, february 11th, i am sam stein filling in today for my friend, ali velshi. today on the show, we will have the very latest on what the u.s. military is calling a, quote, high altitude object shot down over american airspace over alaska. plus, what we know about the fbi search for classified documents at former vice president mike pence's indiana home. former pence aide will join me later in the show. and, congressman bonnie watson coleman will be here to talk about the long fight for police reform, and a piece of american history you probably don't know