there is a lot that needs to be done to ensure that we have a fairer situation, a greater expectation of safety and security in the block community in particular. >> that is absolutely true. it is incredibly complex, delicate. i want to thank you for coming to try to unpack it in a short period of time. representative bonnie watson coleman. democrat of new jersey. appreciate your time. that's it for me, i will be back here tomorrow. i'm sorry, yes, i'm coming back. in from my friend ali velshi. another reminder before we go. starting next weekend, though she is coming to you at a new time slot, saturdays and sundays from 10 am to noon eastern. when you tune in next week at 10 am eastern, ali velshi will be live on the ground in ukraine as the world prepares to mark the one year of the russia invasion. wife on the ground, starting february 18th.

stay right where you are. cory coffin comes to pick up the coverage right now. >> good morning, welcome into you, i'm cory coffin current you from new york. we will begin with the latest on the high altitude object that was fly over alaska airspace, and shot down by the u.s. military yesterday. ce, and it has been less than ak since a trial spy balloon was discovered flooded over the u.s., it was a sudden eventually shot down over the coast of south carolina by an air force fighter jet. pentagon officials would not confirm whether or not the new object was also a balloon, or what the country of origin was. officials did say the object was roughly the size of a small car. flying at an altitude that made it a potential threat to civilian aircrafts. here is national security spokesperson and retired admiral john kirby yesterday. >> i can confirm that they

department of defense was tracking a high altitude object over alaska didn't base in the last 24 hours. the object was flying at an altitude of 40,000 feet. and posed a reasonable threat to the safety of civilian flight. at an event abundance of caution and recommendation of the pentagon, president biden ordered the military to down the object. >> joining me now is nbc news white house correspondent allie raffa, ali, good morning to you. i want to get your latest on this. what are you hearing from the white house about the high altitude object? >> cory, right now we know that teams are searching through ice and snow looking for any debris they can from this object that was shot down over the alaskan coast yesterday by it f 22 after, as you mentioned, it was flying at such a low altitude that threaten civilian aircrafts.

president biden calling this mission to take the aircraft down a success yesterday, but white house officials are admitting that at this point they have way more questions than answers. they still don't know where the object came from, who it belongs to, what the purpose was what the capabilities were, but they are pointing to the differences between at the second object that was discovered and the chinese spy balloon that was shot down off of the coast of south carolina one week ago today. listen to what they had to say yesterday. >> it was much, much smaller than the spy balloon that we took down last saturday. the way it was described to me was roughly the size of a small car as opposed to a payload that was two or three bus size. much smaller. >> we have officials say that the second aircraft was flying 20,000 feet lower than the chinese spy balloon.

that it was discovered, and destroyed roughly 24 hours after it was initially discovered. when you compare that to the chinese spy balloon that was taken down eight days after it was initially discovered, the wreckage of that chinese spy balloon still being studied at the fbi live in quantico, virginia. the pentagon saying yesterday, also, more debris from that wreckage was discovered on the ocean floor off of the coast of south carolina. they say the debris will help them better understand and better prepared u.s. officials for the threats in the future. >> the difference in the timeline between the two objects is interesting. allie raffa, thank you. let's go to senior member of the foreign affairs committee. california represent brad sherman. good morning to you, brad. let me get my words out to you. thank you for joining us, congressman sherman. what more can you tell us about the unidentified flying objects flying over alaska? >> we don't know much about it.

it is small, it could be a real weather balloon that china sent in order to support their bogus claim. the first balloon was just a weather balloon. it could've been sent before the chinese knew that we discovered the balloon over montana. as part of a continuing effort. the balloon is the smallest part of all of the balloons. they are the smallest part of china's invasion of our sovereignty. the way that they control american corporations by treating access to the chinese market like dog training treats. you saw that when the and be a just mentioned hong kong, and all of a sudden that person was fired. . but you see this across the board in corporate america. it strives to comply with the demands of the chinese communist party. >> you know, congressman, we

got an update from allie raffa about the debris and the latest on how much was found. and more debris found at the bottom of the ocean. what else are you learning about it? what do you believe is to come out of this eventually? >> well, i think it's good that we shot it down over shallow water. we will probably recover a lot of it, the second one shot over ice. the impact made destroy some of it but it will be even easier to get our hands on it. i think, what it tells us most is that china has been pushing us around for 20 years. and they think they can do anything. the most interesting part is they attacked us for shooting down their spy balloon. saying they reserve the right to retaliate against us for defending our own territory. that is because china has successfully run up their largest trade deficit in the

history of international trade by using one on fair trade mechanism after another. we have that nothing about it because wall street makes a lot of money over a system that takes a lot of jobs out of america and puts a lot of power in beijing. >> china seems to be digging its heels in here. this comes at a pivotal moment between u.s. and china relations. beijing says it rejected a recent call from the u.s. over the incident because, quote, the atmosphere isn't right. where do you think the situation goes from here? as american officials try to navigate forward? what do you think america should be doing to get things back on track? >> what i fear will happen is literally the balloon will blow over. we all sanctioned a few chinese entities and say they can't buy things from the united states, which means some other company in china will do the buying and turn over to the first company. what i hope happens is a package of bills that i described on the floor that will i will be introducing, one of which is to sell more defense article to taiwan. a second of which is to

indicate that we take away automatically, all of china's trade relations with the united states, if they invade, and the third would be to force american companies to reveal, and the reports to shareholders, how dependent they are on china. hopefully that will inspire them to become less dependent, and to compete for capital by way of american investors are showing how resilient they would be. to what may be an interruption in the economic relationship with china. we don't know where this is going, it's not just a balloon. >> quickly, last night senator lisa murkowski sat down with nbc's lister holes. listen to what she had to say. >> but, today, to know that we have yet another unidentified object successfully shot down in alaska, making sure that the message is clear, that any sovereign territory or airspace

in this country, if there is a threat, if there is an incursion, there will be consequences. >> congressman, what do you think those consequences would look like? how is the pentagon preparing for that? >> i'm hoping it's not a pentagon response. shootdown one balloon, yeah, they can send another one or do something else. they're invasions of our sovereignty go way beyond what they are doing at 60,000 feet. that is why we need a system to compensate american companies when they are mistreated by china. so that they will not have to kowtow to whatever the chinese government tells them to do. we can only send 40 movies from hollywood to china, which means that no studio -- that means if they do, not other movies will get into china. that kind of control over our companies is something we need to interrupt, we need to do that at the expense of the chinese government.

>> congressman brad sherman breaking it down for us, brad, we appreciate it, congressman, we appreciate it. still to come, all eyes on the federal judge ruling in texas that could block the use of abortion pills across the country, we will discuss that later. first, more classified documents were removed from the home of mike pence. this after the former president was subpoenaed by -- in january 6th. we will dig into all of that. what it means for 2024 after the break. r 2024 after the break. try bounce lasting fresh dryer sheets. ♪♪ more freshness. more softness. less static. less wrinkles. yeah! it's the sheet. ♪♪ new bounce lasting fresh dryer sheets. it's the sheet! >> according to multiple

reports, former president trump's legal team recently gave the justice department and additional classified folder found at mar-a-lago. and yesterday, the fbi removed another classified document along with six i marked pages from former vice president mike pence's home in carmel, indiana. a military file hour-long search was negotiated between pence's legal team and the

justice department, this discovery comes weeks after one of pence's lawyer says a small number of classified documents were found in pence's home. and just a day after pence was subpoenaed by special counsel jack smith. his investigation into former president trump and his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. joining me now is nbc news senior national correspondent jonathan, to help us unravel those massive a ball of entanglement here. jonathan, what is the latest on the additional classified folder that trump's legal team handed over to the justice department? >> we are still trying to figure out what might have been in that folder, corey, obviously everybody is searching their homes. searching their second homes, their third homes. their offices. the fbi is searching everybody's homes and 30 homes. who was in government in recent years, what they are trying to

figure out is more and more stuff is classified, and you know, until we know the content of that folder, it's hard to make a judgment other than you are not supposed to have classified material outside of a classified setting. >> right, how far does this go? how many other documents are we going to find? how many people do we find that have documents? what do we know about the recent classified documents in unmarked pages found it pence's home? >> pence a spokesman, government mao we said yesterday in a statement, there was basically seven documents that were handed over, seven documents that were taken out. one of which had classified markings. six of which did not. i think you can infer from that that other documents are things that the national archives and records administration would want, meaning things that are supposed to be with the government under the presidential records act, you know, not classified, but the

property of the united states government, not the property of mike pence. we have seen some pretty consistent cooperation here from pence with the fbi, with the justice department. by the way, beautiful how she has there. you don't need a chinese spy balloon to see that thing from here, right? >> my goodness, that is certainly true. that is one thing we are getting out of this, these over air shots of all of these polyp kicks homes, whether or not we like it. thank you, jonathan. we do have more questions to answer about the documents. we are waiting to find out. there are a couple of wrinkles here we want to talk about. some implications. joining me now is charles coleman junior, nbc legal analyst, civil rights attorney, former brooklyn prosecutor, host of the charles coleman brought podcast. also glenn kirschner, nbc legal analyst, former federal prosecutor, and house of the justice matters podcast. gentlemen, welcome in both of you, we appreciate your time. charles, what are the key

differences here between pence, biden, and trump's document cases? how does this affect the ongoing investigations? >> i think you can comfortably put pence and biden in a similar category, you are talking about a very different document to begin with. the other reason why i would put them together, at the end of the day, this is also a conversation around a woefulness of withholding the documents that you see in donald trump's case, ultimately which led to a search warrant being -- at mar-a-lago, and as opposed to both pence and president biden, essentially volunteering in turning over the documents without having to go through back and forth with the national archive, and back and forth with the department of justice, and the fbi looking for them to return documents that do not belong to them. i think those significant distinctions between both biden and pence, as well as trump,

and why the conversation about trump has been much more along the lines of a criminal investigation, whereas with pence and biden, these are discussions that involve them turning over the documents voluntarily,. charles, trump's legal team was also handed over the additional classified documents for mar-a-lago, but abc reports a laptop was found, and a fold it was turned over with electronically copied from onto the laptop from trump's aide. that was the laptop that was used by trump's aide. nbc has not been able to confirm this, but how troubling is this if true. >> it is very troubling, and extremely significant, i think if you get that news, and it is verified, there has to be a lot of questions about donald trump's awareness, donald trump's involvement, and donald trump's instruction of how the aid should've felt the need to copy electronics in the folder. that would only make this conversation and the rabbit hole for jack smith go deeper and deeper in terms of the

investigation, but it is something that can be of extreme concern. >> glenn, let's go to the relationship between trump and pence, this is not been confirmed by nbc, but cbs news recently reported, quote, its source close to trump's legal team says trump's lawyers are expected to contest pence's grand jury subpoena on executive privilege grounds. what does this mean now that there is a potential legal fight for pence's testimony? >> you know, cory, the only thing in means is there might be some delay in securing mike pence's testimony before the grand jury. mike pence can try to assert executive privilege. donald trump can try to assert executive privilege. those arguments will lose. every judge will rule that first of all, executive privilege presently is for joe biden. the president to invoke our way, if we all have the sense that he will not invoke executive privilege to prevent mike pence

from testifying about the democracy crimes of donald trump before the grand jury, ain't happening. the other thing, this issue was litigated during the watergate days in the nixon case, when there was a federal grand jury looking for, among other things the crimes of a foreign president, the executive privilege will yield. the only question is, will mike pence be able to succeed in delaying his ultimate day of reckoning before the grand jury? >> there is precedent there. charles, what critical information with the special counsel want to know for mike pence? >> the special counsel is going to be looking to find out exactly what donald trump may have communicated an indicated that he was aware that anyone who was participating in january 6th was going to be the acting in a violent manner, and there was a potential for violence. that also is going to be a key thing. when it comes to organization that we have already established, planned and coordinated attempts on in

essential coup on american democracy, how much of that was president trump aware of? how many of those figures was he in contact with? in addition to that, there's also going to be talking to him about the days leading up to january 6th what conversations were had? what information was shared? how much of donald trump's plot to overthrow the government on january 6th was he aware of? or did donald trump reveal to pence in a way that they can get out at trial? those are going to be the conversations they are looking to have with mike pence to get evidence from someone who was closer to donald trump and pretty much anyone else, other than perhaps mark meadows. >> pence -- would've passed refuses to testify? he refused to testify over the january six committee, was any legal implications if it doesn't apply to the subpoena? also, what does that mean for the department of justice investigation for trump? >> not surprisingly, i had witnesses decline refused to testify before the grand jury for all sorts of reasons, often

it was out of fear, or out of loyalty to the target of the investigation, that person i intended to indict. sometimes they would throw a bogus privileges, attorney-client, or others. and they had to litigate those asserted privileges for the chief judge the supervisory responsibility over the grand jury proceedings. in this case, the federal court washington and lee see. ultimately, judge howell, i'm quite confident would reject any asserted privileges and order mike pence to testify. you know what? as much as mike pence might not want to provide criminalizing information about donald trump, i don't see him defying a court order, and being held in contempt. i think you will play this out, as much as a system will allow him to play it out. and he will testify. >> charles, last few seconds, do you think this means the special counsel's investigation is nearing an end?

>> i do think this is one of the final steps that you may be taking. i can't say it's at the end, but certainly, when you are going with mike pence, you get any bigger than that, other than donald trump. this is a sign that, i believe, we get life at the end of the title. >> we will be interesting to see where we go from here, thank you for charles coleman junior and glenn schumer. we appreciate it. coming up, a case in texas that could pull in abortion pull off of the market nationwide. i will speak to the president and ceo of planned parenthood. alexis mcgill johnson. get her reactions. stay with us. reactions. stay with us stay with us it's clinically shown to help manage blood sugar levels and contains high quality protein to help manage hunger and support muscle health. try boost® today. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. with the money we saved, we tried electric unicycles. i think i've got it! doggy-paddle! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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lisicky drug to, help turn a pregnancy. now, the fate of that drug which is used in more than half of all u.s. abortions, lives in the hands of a trump appointed judge. a ruling on the case can come the next two weeks. now with one -- president and p o -- planned parenthood action fund. welcome in, alexis. we appreciate you bringing this issue to us. talk a little bit more about it. tell us what will happen if the judge decides to outlaw the medication. who will it impact the most? >> good morning. thank you for having me here. look, first of all, we are not aware of any medication where a court has revoked in ftas evidence-based approval. what we have here is a clearly politically motivated attack, people who are not satisfied, act antiabortion activists that are not activists with overturning roe, that they want more power and control, it's not just texas, i think more than two dozen states that also asked the judge to and fda

approval, including kansas, kentucky, and montana. voters have just rejected abortion restrictions. so, this is going to impact, not just the folks in those states, but it could have far wide reaching implications to people who are seeking to access medication, abortion using method kristen. in california, new york, and illinois. it is as always, these restrictions fall mostly on the backs of people of color, of low income communities, people who don't have the access to resources are going to be impacted the most. >> if the judge outlaws the medication, it could cut off access, or reinstate rules mandating that patients only be able to receive the pills in person from a physician. how much would that overwhelm abortion clinics? >> look, abortion clinics are already in the middle of a public health crisis right now because we have restrictions and, we are fighting

restrictions in 18 states. there is so much confusion and chaos on the ground. there is so much impact for patients that were going into clinics now who need to now travel to other clinics disrupting the flow of health care broadly. it's affecting providers and frontline workers who have to stay up to date, literally turned themselves into lawyers to make sure they are complying with the latest injunctions or restrictions in their state. it will continue to harm patients at the end of the day, and continue to harm people as you know, who intended pregnancies, who are no longer viable. patients who are facing potential sepsis. these are the ways in which method cristobal used for miscarriage management, but? same procedures, same pill. the implications could be incredibly broad. >> some reproductive rights groups and doctors are urging people to preorder and stockpile abortion pills while

they can. do you think it's a good idea? or do you think that can lead to a nationwide store shortage? >> i think that, you know, here we are in a moment where we are asking people to seek medication in advance of needing it, right? that in itself should demonstrate what an insane crisis we are in. i think that, you know, i think planned parenthood health centers are making their own operational decisions to try to ensure that they can support patients as best they can, but i do think it is really important to even look at that advice as a symptom of a larger challenge that we are facing here around getting access to care, that the majority of americans they believe should be their own personal decision, not one made by lawmakers, state lawmakers, not one made by federal courts, not by state courts.

what you have here is a pattern, a very disturbing pattern of antiabortion activists going into texas, finding a drug that is friendly on anti-reproductive rights, and essentially using that as a pathway to thwart where people stand on the issue. we should all be alarmed by that. >> this is not an easy question, so i apologize for the fact that i will give you the last few seconds to answer it, but president biden facing criticism for not addressing the specific case in the state of the union address. you have said that he plans to swiftly appeal any ruling against the pills. what other actions are you hoping for the administration and congress to protect abortion rights? >> look, i think the administration stepped up incredibly strongly around protecting access to reproductive rights, particularly the vice president was out anywhere and everywhere, and to meet with lawmakers, and to ensure that she understands the issues from all sides to inform the administration decisions. i think it was a missed

opportunity for the administration not to push further to in the speech, because, this is where the majority of people, you know, sit with respecting abortion access and reproductive freedom. you know, having the presidents words match those actions, i think would have been wonderful to hear. we look forward to working with the administration ongoing to ensure that they continue to fight and show up for patients. >> alexis mcgill johnson, the president and ceo of planned parenthood. alexis, thank you. >> in the next hour more on that unidentified an unmanned object near alaska that was shot down by the u.s. military. we will bring you the latest. first, the u.s. is up the humanitarian response to the devastating earthquakes in turkey and syria that claimed the lives of thousands. we will take you to the live report on the ground in turkey after the break. plus, russia is launching a new offensive one year after attacking and invading ukraine nearly on the one year

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in the earthquakes, despite the city flow of international aid flow going in the turkey, aid flows are -- of a secondary disaster brought on the hunger, disease, and freezing temperatures in the region. nbc's matt bradley joins me now from turkey reporting on the ground live. matt, have rescue workers said how much longer they think anyone could survive under the rubble? all right, we have lost max audio, we are going to go back to him as soon as we can to get that live report. in the meantime you can't talk, what we are saying he can't talk because there are searches going on. they need other silence when they do these searches because if there is anybody calling out in the rubble, rescue workers need to be able to hear that. what we will do is we will get

a given time for the search to finish, go back to matt bradley reporting on the ground in turkey and a little bit. now let's go ahead and turn to ukraine where russia has launched a new offensive, focusing its assault on eastern ukraine. as we approach the one year anniversary of the war. ukrainian officials say russia fired about 70 missiles at kharkiv, as ukraine's second largest city. officials in moscow, they say that moscow is targeting kharkiv's power grid in attempt to shut off power he to civilians. we are seeing power -- of the capital city of kyiv. president zelenskyy, meanwhile, spent the last week appealing to western nations for more air support meeting with leaders in the uk, france, and germany in person as well as addressing eu leaders in brussels. let's go over to nbc's ralph sanchez joining me from kharkiv directly. raffa, tell me, ukraine has with state previous russian offenses. are ukrainians confident they will withstand the latest one?

>> cory, their big hope is if they hold out for a long enough, they will buy time for advanced nato weapons to make it to the battlefield. first, those german made tanks, and then the ukrainians hoped eventually fighter aircrafts. what we are seeing the russians you is attacking in a slow grinding way along a several hundred mile front here in eastern ukraine. they are advancing sometimes just a couple of hundred meters a day, but they are advancing. the russians are taking major casualties among regular russian military forces, but also among the wagner mercenaries. they are also inflicting major casualties on the ukrainians as they go, the most intense fighting remains in that city of bakhmut, where the ukrainian forces are holding on, they are basically holding on by their fingernails at this point, the big fear for the ukrainian defenders about mood is that they will cut the road west out

of the city, which is the road they depend on for their supply lines. the russian hope here, basically, is to use their massive advantage in sheer numbers to grind the ukrainians down. there has been, corey, some talk about whether the russians will attack in a surprise attack from the south to here so on, or potentially the north trying to threaten kyiv once again. there is no sign that that is happening, but it does not mean it won't, corey? >> let's talk about president zelenskyy making another appeal to european allies this week for fighter jets. how likely is it that that request will be granted? >> the ukrainians are sounding optimistic. we have not heard anything firm from either the u.s. or from any of the european allies. zelenskyy did leave london with a commitment from the british that as you train ukrainian air force pilots, ukrainian government said they should

investigate whether the royal air force should have any spare jets that they could potentially give to the ukrainians. this would be a major, major step for nato. we have seen the allies say no to things like tanks, right up to where they said yes, but the feeling is fighter aircrafts are just a whole different ball game, they could potentially be seen as so provocative by the russians if ukrainian pilots were using nato jets to attack, especially if they were attacking in a side of russian territory, which is something they would be able to do. the ukrainians promised the west that they would not do that. i think a lot of western military planners, looking at the situation, and seeing all fruit of scenarios that could lead to an escalation between russia and the nato military alliance. cory? >> that's when we approach the one year anniversary at the start of the war, where is the move as you go towards that day? february 24th? >> yeah, people are resolute. one of the questions i have

been asking folks as we travel around the country here is how have you changed over the course of the year? we were speaking to a young guy today, 33 years old, he had a techno dj, he was before the war. today, he was out in a small village, not far from the front lines, he was delivering medicine, he was delivering bread to villagers there, people who were really cut off their. the village was occupied by the russians for some six months or so, they were liberated. that was a great moment, is the depths of winter. they still don't have access to that kind of basic supplies they need, his young guy would be dimitri, he said he really found a lot within himself that he did not know was there. he spent a lot of time and clubs, spent a lot of time on the beach, there he is risking his life to help his fellow ukrainians, but that is an answer we heard again and again and different forms all across the country the people found the are capable of things i've not knowing that they were.

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between the kansas city chiefs and the philadelphia eagles is already historic. for the first time, both teams will be led by a black quarterback. jalen hurts of the eagles and patrick mahomes of the chiefs. in another historic first, arizona will be the first hosting with legalize sports gambling. joining me now to help set the stage for sunday night big game is nbc news correspondent shaq brewster. i, jack, welcome in, arizona is making history, first hosting with legal sports betting. it is a milestone in both america and nfl involving stance on gambling. a record 50.4 adult in america are wagering 16 billion dollars, how are fans they are reacting to the expansion of sports betting? >> well, they are deaf and lay

throwing the money in. those numbers that you just read, the 15 million fans planning to place a bet in the super bowl, those are record numbers. we spoke to the american gaming association, they said that is a number that continues to go up each day, it's a reflection on how the legalists sports betting is expanding across the country. now, i did speak some fans throughout the week and about what kind of bets they are placing, the biggest that i heard was $1,000. that was one family say he put $1,000 on the game. i heard bets as small as $20. i want you to listen to some of the conversations i had with folks planning to please a wager for the super bowl. >> it's so accessible now, anyone can do it. there are older people that are weary, they want to stay away from it, good for them. it's good, but in the long run, it can be very damning for a lot of people. be smart about it is all i say. >> we start off small, you know, we start to get a little when. then people tell their friends, you know, that's how i got started. i was not really into it, it's

advertised everywhere. it's like, i got to get in on the action. >> cory, not only is the first super bowl happening in a state with legal sports betting, but there actually is a sports book on the site of the state farm stadium. i spoke to the ceo yesterday of the bet and gm, he listed for me that more than 800 ways that fans can place a bet on the super bowl. everything from the coin toss, who scores a touchdown first, even the color of the gatorade that will be poured on to the winning coach if you plan that, if you want to get into it, the queue that you have from the nfl and from many of these casino organizations, they are saying, have fun with it. go and have fun, they should not be how you pay your rent, in their words, it should be an extra activity that you engage in. be careful you are not doing too much. >> don't get anything you are not okay with walking away with not having at the end of the bet. don't do anything you are not

okay with losing. how about this? talk us through the historic nature of having two black starting quarterbacks facing off in the super bowl game? >> yes, very historic. something that fans mentioned to me, and patrick mahomes was asked about this earlier this week from reporters. he admitted, yes, it's something he thinks about. he thinks about the impact it will have on future generations. younger players who were coming up in the league, being able to see two black quarterbacks compete for the highest prize in the nfl. something else that we also watch, this is a lead, they had faced questions about diversity. at leadership ranks, we always talk about the coaches, three black coaches that started the year off with this season, we started with 11 black quarterbacks. the numbers that are improving, but fans continue to say they want to see that continue to move in that positive direction and the right direction. they want this to not be a story. that's what many fans told me. we want to get to a point where this is not something we

highlight any longer. definitely they're the celebration that you have this historic moment on the field. >> just so much for kids to look up to with this current game line coming up here. shaq, thank you, out of arizona, for the sidelines of a super bowl, a ten year old is bringing his six interviews to nbc game. brock has more. >> should i do my introduction? >> you may remember jeremiah for now, who are ten years, old went viral last month with the silent interview. >> i'm here with the vaunted adams, wide receiver of the las vegas raiders, he has 95 receptions for 1443 years. he has 14 touchdowns, and he has 15 yards per catch. >> the raiders superfan getting notice for dishing out the rapid stats. and also, -- >> what is one of your greatest memories in your childhood? >> how quickly makes the interview bigger than football. >> i want to make my mark as being different from any other reporter or broadcast are out

there. >> his aspirations for a career behind the mic started when doctors told jeremiah family he cannot play contacts because a brain condition, a personal story interviewing his interview style. >> alex asked people about their personal lives, that is not what a lot of reporters do out there. >> that quality was on full display after the raiders running back and josh jacobs had emergency heart surgery. jeremiah opened his interview with this question. >> i want to tell you face to face, i pray for your dad, and your entire family. >> thank you, man. >> i want to ask you, how are you all doing? >> man, we have been doing good, my dad is doing good. i appreciate that, man. i felt that on a personal level. >> jeremiah is known on social media by his handle jeremiah one and five, and his youtube or he does play by plays of raider games. >> he throws it deep, all caught by dante adams, he was wide open, he is out of bounds inside of the 35.

>> on top of it. >> his online fame getting him a trip to the pro bowl, where his passion to the players, leading to this surprise during one of the interviews. >> that is for you, but many. >> going to the super bowl? >> going to the super bowl. >> going to the super bowl! and i was so excited. i was so happy. >> this kid reporter, now on his way to the biggest game of the year. >> it's going to be amazing. you earned it. >> jeremiah signing off of this report. >> this is jeremiah reporting live from the pro bowl practice, and i have done some great interviews, as you can, see i'm going to the super bowl this year. i'm hoping i can strike some more interviews with stefan diggs, peyton manning, you never know, i'm very excited. >> he is a rising star, absolutely. all right, thanks for sam brock for the report. coming up for the next hour of msnbc reports, potential primary votes for donald trump 2024 run. we will tell you who else could announce the candidacy for

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