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>> the week started with republicans literally trying to shout the president down for his passion in defense of social security and medicare at the state of the union. but by the end, it was prominent members of the gop who are feeling the heat. former vice president mike pence has been formerly subpoenaed by jack smith. the justice department appointed special counsel, investigating the efforts of the presidents, pence's former boss, former president donald trump, to stay in power after losing the 2020 election. including, of course, his impact on the january 6th insurrection at the core of that investigation. and his scheme to submit fake electors to falsely declare trump the winner of the election in states that joe

biden actually won. a scheme that hinged on pence not declaring biden the winner when he wanted to certify the results on january 6th, which pence ultimately rejected, even as his life was being threatened by insurrectionists en masse on the capitol that day. one of those developments throughout the hour tonight. plus, president biden meeting this weekend with the nations government, talking priorities over the next two years. i will talk to the governor of hawaii about what he came away with, after sitting down with the president yesterday. that is in just a few minutes. but first, joining me now is congressman kweisi mfume, democrat of maryland. congressman, i, thank you for joining us. and with respect to all the topics i just mentioned, i want to start off tonight in

florida. i will be headed that this week wednesday out of the national network to protest governor ron desantis and his decision to band and advanced placement course on african american studies, faith leaders and activists have been reaching out to me and others on this issue for the last month. my good friend attorney ben crump has signaled he may sue the state. and tomorrow, on this show, we will talk with columbia university professor kimberly crenshaw, one of the scholars cited in the initial crossword that defrauded the department of education objected to. now, the times reported yesterday that the desantis administration had been complaining to the college board about the ap class four months before the ban. you, as former president of the naacp, and a sitting congressman, for the, from one of the black states, what's

your takeaway on all of this? >> reverend sharpton, first, let me thank you for your leadership on this issue. it's an issue that is crying out for people to get involved, and not to assume that it will go away, because it won't just go away on its own. this effort that we see in florida is just the latest of many efforts. it's just that this one is more egregious, it's hard for people not to look at it. governor ron desantis had decided in and of himself, by himself, that he would in fact decide what sort of history is taught in schools, when it comes to african ancestors americans. he doesn't have that authority. he doesn't have that power. and it really comes down to censorship. more than anything else, it is just, you want to say, how dare you, first of all. you cannot change 300 years of history for a race of people who have suffered, endured, and survived those centuries of slavery, oppression, deprivation, degradation,

denial, and non privilege. you can just do that with a stroke of up and. and if you could do it, people and i are not gonna let you do it. so this effort, critical race theory, which is not -- i mean, you have to be a graduate student, doing a ph.d., to sign up for a critical race theory course. this is changing some of the basics that we all know are part of american history. and you know, you just can't wipe them out. the birth of this nation was and iniquitous consumption. it was conceived in a type of hypocrisy that said white men were better than nonwhite men, and therefore, entitled to enslaved them, destroy them, and oppress them. and so, what happened with the enslavement of the negro, the annexation of the hispanic, and the extermination of the native americans made it an iniquitous consumption. and those things really should be taught. anytime they teach in germany the holocaust and how terrible it was to schoolkids, we just

can't say we don't want to take american history, put it in a box and just shove it away. >> now, let's move on to another issue that has troubled you and i. moving on to the black vote, i want to give you a response to the amended democratic presidential primary schedule. the democratic national committee, voting last week to replace iowa with south carolina as the leadoff primary in that schedule. the bottom issue in georgia, also getting moved up, in order to keep with the presidents pledge to center black voters, voters of color, and the primary process. how different will this 2024 primaries cycle be, based on these changes, in your view? >> well, as we all know, the democratic party has morphed over the years into a party that's much more inclusive and represent so many different races, ethnicity's, and preferences. and as such, i think to get a

true early nominee, you need a true process that is reflective of that kind of diversity. it's not to say that iowa and new hampshire we are not the way to do that. it is just to say that, in this case, when we have an opportunity to make sure that we make the system better, the process better, i think we ought to do it. and so, adding south carolina, a state from the south, adding in nevada, a state from the far west, and keeping new hampshire in place is indeed a sort of compromise that allows the democratic party to be much more democratic in its nominating process. and so, i know people don't want to change, but we are in an era where everything around us is changing, and we gotta adapt in order to make sure we have the best process that we can have for the early selection of president, presidential hopefuls. >> earlier this week, congressman, two people, notorious neo-nazi leader and his partner, were federally

charged with conspiracy to destroy an energy facility, after investors unearth their plan to attack five power stations serving the baltimore area with gunfire, hoping to disrupt the cities power grid. the fbi has described the couple's views as, quote, racially or ethnically motivated. echoing what the department of homeland security has described as an uptick in chatter by domestic extremists, regarding attacks on power grids, like the ones we've seen in north carolina, washington state, and oregon in the last year. and it's worth noting that this particular neo-nazi leader founded the group known as, atomwaffen division, which has exposed using violence and social disruption to trigger a

race for. with republicans in the majority of the congress, do you see this extremist threat being taken seriously over the next two years, in terms of legislation to combat it? >> well, i know that democrats and congress, and some like-minded republicans, are already talking about how do we find a way, legislatively, to further get in front of this, and to give law enforcement a better hand at developing theories that will cost us too early on recognize where the threat is coming from. the question, though, is whether or not congress in total, or at least 218 members and the house, and 51 in the senate, will in fact, after that's developed, embrace it. i don't know. i can tell you one thing that's for sure, the older i get, the more i see these threats. they're not to be taken for granted. peoples lives are at stake. and this is something that should concern everybody, just like mass shootings, when these

crazy people, these twisted philosophies, decide to want to take matters and their own hands. in this case, it failed. otherwise, the city of baltimore would have had severe damage done to its grid, its electricity, and its power station. so, it is baltimore today. it could be new york, or l.a. tomorrow. and that's why we can't ignore this and assume that it's just an instant where somebody had a problem and decided to do something. i think there is an effort to create a network of people who do this. >> let me ask you to stand by for a second. i want to bring us some breaking news. in d.c., it's now confirming that the canadian prime minister trudeau has ordered the takedown of an unidentified objects that violated canadian airspace. norad command shot down the object over the uconn, canadian and u.s. aircraft or scrambled,

and u.s. successfully fired at the objects. trudeau added that he spoke with president biden this afternoon. canadian forces will now recover and analyze the wreckage of the object. we'll bring you more information in just a moment. now, let's go back to congressman mfume. let me ask you this finally, congressman. according to the gun violence archive, we already had some mass shootings in the u.s. since this year began. you introduced legislation that would direct the national institute of justice to look at the online footprints of previous mass shooters, to identify potential mass shooters. how would the identifying mass shooters act, how do we do that, if we pass this act? >> well, the first thing, we make sure we are in compliance with the law, so there are no

aspects of personal rights are violated. so, this is not surveillance, because what we are looking at our past instances, all of which rests in the fbi database, whether it was a click, whether it was a share, whether it was linguistics, whether it was activity on the dark web. i think rather than just, we gotta take, it as this bill does, and let the scientists and others over a doj to see if there are some things that are uniquely identifiable here, that can help point when we see this activity, again, quicker to give law enforcement a chance of watching and hoping that nothing happens. but watching these individuals before they act, i think, it's a good example of, rev sharpton, uvalde. all these kids and teachers that got killed down there, if there was in fact a belief that a person, based on all the data that was previously gathered and the algorithms that were

established might be ready to do something, we could be able to harden soft targets, just in case that something happens. and if we are able to do that and save lives, it's great. now, will this stop mass shooting? no. will it give us one more tool in our tool box to work with? i think so. and i think that at this point, we just can't sit and wait for the next mass shooting, and innocent lives to be taken all over this country. >> all right, thank you for being with us, congressman kweisi mfume. joining me now is the governor of hawaii, democrat josh green. governor, i must ask you about the story that kept us busy in the last few days, the chinese balloon that was shut down last weekend. and yesterday, the pentagon announcing it has shut down and unidentified objects about ten miles off the coast of alaska. no details about the objects. meanwhile, in your state of hawaii, astronomers in japan,

green laser lights spotted over your state last month, will be down by chinese weather satellite. as governor of a state outside of the continental u.s., how concerned are you of these recent chinese incursions? >> well, thank you, reverend sharpton for having me, i'm very concerned because we are worried about what ultimately would come between china and taiwan. we really wish people were focused on this kind of conflict between nations. and instead, we are focusing on science and cancer care and all those things. we take this very seriously. and so, when someone threatens our safety or security, we stand kind of in solidarity with our military and our intelligence community because we have to protect our country. and hawaii is kind of the tip of the spear for the pacific. so, this is something that i do spend a lot of time working on, as governor. >> governor, again, thank you for joining us. i know you are in washington this week with a impactful

schedule. you were guest at the state of the union tuesday. you are attending the first national governors association meeting of 2023 where you are having discussions with cabinet members. and you also met with the president yesterday. what has been the main topics of discussion between the governors and the administration this week? >> well, the governors do tend to get along. there's a little less partisanship in our meetings than there is perhaps on the floor of congress, like you saw at the state of the union address. we're talking about issues that affect our people. we are closer to the people, as governors, so we like to talk about housing, homelessness. we talk about health care questions. we were talking about ways to work together. and i will tell you, mister sharpton, the president struck a very conciliatory tone with all of us. and it was collegial in everywhere. i think that, of course, there is some partisanship, and there is some skepticism there

between republicans and democrats, especially when we have a democratic president. but in talking to all my colleagues, they are pretty positive about the way we're trying to work together. >> so, there was no route outburst by even the republican governors, even though the amendments are -- >> utterly none. we really work together. we see all the cabinet members. we saw the president. we will be with the president. and i believe the vice president tonight and the first spouse, that's going on. we're really trying to not being that way because there has to be some civility somewhere. and i think maybe we can find it in the governors. >> maybe, we can call them grown-ups. but, let me ask a quick follow-up, governor carries an important role with new policies for voting laws. republican states are focused on voter i.d. rules, and making it harder to cast mail-in ballots. are democrats looking to expand access through, for example, automatic voter registration? do you think there is more to

be done to fight laws that restrict people from voting? >> absolutely. that is an attack on democracy, and everyone knows it. there is that movement in some states to restrict voting, and that is just so they could not get advantage and when. it can be hand-to-hand combat during elections because everything flows from the elections. eventually, people were determined the size and shape of districts, and that is the majority or minority in congress. and that leads to that kind of nonsense you saw on the floor during the state of the union. so, it is important that people vote. i would ask every american to vote. if every american votes, then we'll get what we deserve. if we stop people from voting, then we are really not a great country. so, let us be a great country. let's have everyone vote. we're doing that in hawaii. we're doing our best anyway. >> you are a physician turned governor. what did you think when you heard president biden talk about his focus on health matters, like ending cancer, or addressing our nation's mental health crisis? >> i was very proud of the

president. i came to hawaii to be a physician in the rural area with a national health service, and then ended up being on the docket all these years, and serving now as governor. i was proud of him. we have a perfect storm in america right now. the last few years of covid did several things. between 2020 and 2022, of course, we had a lot of untreated illness. we had a lot of screening that did not occur for cancer. we had the long covid impact that weren't go away. doctors retired. we also had this tsunami coming, which means our population will peak and age at 2030. and we have, of course, this huge behavioral health surge in mental illness that's going on. so, when the president says we've got to work on cancer, that is excellent, because we have to screen and find these wonderful love people in our families, to find the disease early. you know, there's over 600,000 people in america who die of cancer every year, and it's because we don't screen them in time, or because they smoke too much. and we can stop that. so, i was proud about the president there, and we do need a moon shot, not just on cancer, but on health care. because to deal with that

really colossal circumstance, losing providers, in my opinion, we should probably offer, and i would say this is voluntary national service exchange for long forgiveness for all health care providers from social workers up through surgeons, and certainly behavioral health professionals in the middle. if you do those kinds of things, you take care of democrats and republicans and everybody in every state, you take care of the people we love. so, the president was focusing on the right things, and unfortunately, some people were yelling philonise on the floor. but let's take care of our people. and that's what he was talking about. >> thank you governor greene for being with us. i want to bring you some breaking news. in d.c., it is now confirmed that canadian prime minister trudeau has ordered the takedown of an unidentified objects that violated canadian airspace. norad command shot down the object over the yukon canadian and u.s. aircraft was scrambled, and a u.s. f 22 successfully

fired at the object. trudeau added that he spoke with president biden this afternoon. canadian forces will now recover and analyze the contents of the object. let us bring nbc's dan de lucy. dan, what do we know. >> reporter: we don't know a lot right now. and this seems to be moving very quickly. of course, yesterday, another object was shot down off the coast of alaska. a week ago, of course, the chinese surveillance balloon that we all watch fly across the u.s. was shut down off the coast of carolina. and now, yet another unidentified objects, we don't know where it's from. we don't know whether it has any connection at all with the chinese surveillance airship. we don't know if it has any connection to the objects that they still haven't on identified in any detail that is now over frozen ice off the

northern coast of alaska. so, the number of objects being shot down out of the sky over north america is now three. in a week. and it begs the question, you know, is this because there's a heightened sensitivity, as the u.s. and the canadian military watch the airspace over north america? or is there something else here? is it connected to a foreign adversary? or is it much more mundane, or and we just don't know? we'll have to wait and see what they pick up from the yukon that they just shot down. >> all right, thank you, dan de luce. after the break, marjorie taylor greene's big night out at the state of the union. what it says about who's really running the republican party? ♪ ♪ ♪ r kids moved in with us... our bargain detergent couldn't keep up. turns out it's mostly water. so, we switched back to tide. one wash, stains are gone. [daughter] slurping don't pay for water. pay for clean. it's got to be tide.

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the next challenge will be to care for the 80,000 injured and millions who have been left homeless, as temperatures dip below freezing in most of the region. let us go to nbc's gabe gutierrez in turkey. >> reporter: reverend al, incredibly, there is still a search and rescue operation, still underway here in southeastern turkey. so many days after that initial earthquake, we keep seeing those dramatic rescues. people being pulled from the rubble. a family of five, earlier today, as well as young children being pulled from the rubble, just incredible to witness across this country. but sadly, the window of opportunity is closing. right behind me, this is one of the sites where search crews are still on the scene. unfortunately, they don't think they will pull out any more bodies from this particular site. but they have already pulled out a dozen over the last few days.

and right now, family members are here, waiting for word on what became of their loved ones. that may have been trapped underneath that rubble. it's very difficult to watch across this country. and also, as humanitarian aid tries to get into the region, we're finding that some areas, especially more rural areas, are having difficult time. earlier today, we were in one area that couldn't get enough tense and enough insulation for what's left of their homes, food, water, and shelter also hard to come by in these bitterly cold temperatures. also, the chief of the world health organization went to syria earlier today, and brought 37 tons of medical supplies. there is mounting frustration in that country over the border. and what something has been a lack of response. and here in turkey, in fact, there's also an angry against the government. and today in the state run new news agency, reported that one people --

for leading to the loss of life. reverend, now back to you. >> all right, thank you nbc's gabe gutierrez in turkey. joining me now is my political panel, to msnbc contributors and political strategist -- republican susan del percio and democrat juanita tolliver. susan, let's start with the new developments surrounding former vice president mike pence. federal investigators confirmed it found additional classified documents at his indiana home yesterday. and this comes after pence was subpoenaed by special counsel, jack smith, in doj's january 6th investigation. now, pence has presidential aspirations, and his testimony before the special counsel could have the fate of the only declared republican candidate, former president trump. what do you make of this week's stories? >> well, i think when it comes to the documents, jeez, she's

one of several now that he has. but he's more in vain of president biden welcoming the fbi to make that search and turning over the documents, versus the former president who fought this to the nail, and basically try to obstruct justice. when it comes to the fbi special investigation of january six, this really does put vice president pence, former vice president pence, in an out situation because he wants to run for president and shows independents and that he did do the right thing on january 6th. and yet, he still has president trump, like lockstep next to him, when it comes to what they did for the past four years. so, i have been long trying to figure out how pence goes about running for president. i don't see quite how he will thread that needle. but i do think this is a unique time for him to be a really

important figure in history in that he should go forward, he shouldn't fight these subpoenas. he should testify truthfully, and move our country forward. >> juanita, former president trump is apparently preparing to challenge his former vp special counsel's subpoena on the grounds of executive privilege. how strong is that defense? and do you feel trump could be feeling the heat in this case? >> i mean, he's clearly feeling the heat, if he's offering this potential challenge to the subpoena for mike pence. he already knows that this is a grand jury, and headed by the department of justice, which is not the january 6th select committee. so, the definition of privilege is going to be different here than it was for the congressional investigation. so, he's panicked. he is like, what can i do to stop this process, and the same way susan alluded to, potential obstruction with the hiding of classified materials at mar-a-lago. he wants to obstruct. it wants to try to drag this out in court because that's his

play. that is the same play he was through congressional subpoenas, and that's the play he's gonna try to use now. they think is, though, this special counsel has already shown that he's about the business of doing the work, and he won't let anyone get in his way. and so, i think jack smith has got to respond to this promptly, and i think we will expect, we should expect to see pence testify for him. but my question comes to, what is pence going to share? because pence had gone multiple interviews. he has written about it, all of the interactions, many of his interactions with trump. so i wonder, what else he could share for this grand jury that he hasn't already shared before? but, potentially, it's those 101 conversations, where no staffer was in the room, where no one else but tim and trump were in conversation, and he was feeling pressure. perhaps, that is the avenue pence could go. but like susan said, trump absolutely will try to follow him with this, politically, going forward. >> susan, on the topic of trump, let's turn to former president trump to who, is hoping to maintain the loyalty of the

organization of young republicans called turning point. the former president is reportedly outraged at the conservative group that has been continued ties with florida governor ron desantis. as he weighs against trump and the republican presidential primary. now, many have also been contemplating like that, with the coke network talking about funding of the gop primary candidates. it's a question that's been asked many times. but is trump losing some of his grip on the republican party? >> he is. and here's why, rev. you know, political groups, what they like to do more than anything else, they like to win. if they were about policy, they will be in policy think tanks. but political organizations want to elect like-minded people of their party, whether it be democratic, republican, political groups and see them get elected. what they saw in 2022 was

donald trump hurt the senate from becoming a republican majority. and they also, what's more important, they see donald trump, all he does is talk about the past. all he wants to do is to have people, instead of uniting for something, he just wants them to be a shared grieving party. just feel sorry for me is what donald trump is sorry, saying. you should be bad for me. it's all about me and me. so these groups are done with him because they want to win. >> juanita, there are many democrats who are no doubt enjoying the squabbling inside that republican party right now. but is that republican party a strong opponent with or without trump at its head? >> without, rev, trump has lost them the three last consecutive elections, 2018, 2020, and 2022. and so, my response to these groups that are considering other folks beyond trump as, show me the money. we've heard grumblings behind

closed doors from republicans for years, i'm sick and tired of trump, yet, they do nothing. there's no investments, no concerted public, loud effort, to get rid of him. so, show me the money and speak up, if that's your game plan, because i believe it when i see it, rev. honestly, we haven't seen it yet. he's lost three elections. we'll see what happens in the future. >> susan del percio and juanita tolliver, thank you both for being with us. my colleague richard lui has news update. richard? >> i'll get you the latest on that breaking news out of canada that we've been following here on msnbc. prime minister justin trudeau, saying he ordered that takedown of another fight high altitude f object spotted by norad happening today. trudeau also saying effort consulting president biden, u.s. and canadian forces more than scrambled. the u.s. f-22 fighter planes did successfully fire and take down that object that we're talking about that happened over the yukon. it is a mountainous and sparsely populated territory in

the country's northwest. and the canadian forces now recovering and examining that object when they do get it. it's not clear whether this is belated to the chinese balloon shot down off the coast of south carolina. that was last weekend. or another object shot down an alaskan airspace that happened just yesterday, friday. yes, that is three airborne objects shot down here, we have, over eight days in north america. that's the latest on that. we have more later for, you rev, as we have details. back to you. >> all right, thank you, richard. >> as in many american cities, lawmakers in washington, d.c. are looking for ways to reform their criminal justice systems, while also protecting public safety. on thursday, those efforts were complicated in the nation's capital, when the republican-led u.s. house of representatives stepped into object to revisions of the criminal code approved by the city council. joining me now to discuss this

is washington, d.c. attorney general brian schwalb. thank you for joining me today. attorney general, let us start at the beginning. for people who don't know, why does congress get a say in how washington, d.c. handles this justice system? and what happens now that the house has voted against the measure? >> well, reverend sharpton, thank you for having me this evening. we are about to celebrate this year the 50th anniversary of the home rule act. congress, back in 1973, delegated to the district of columbia the authority, to legislate on local matters affecting the residents of the district of columbia. and congress said in that 1973 home all act that the d.c. council to the maximum extent possible would legislate on local affairs. now, to be sure, under the constitution, congress still has some ability to oversee our affairs and the district of

columbia. but for the past many years, that authority to enact local law has been well handled by council. in fact, if the resolutions of the house passed last week, were to be passed by the senate and not vetoed by the president, it will be the first time in 30 years that local d.c. laws have been overturned by a federal government. >> wow. you know, republicans were most vocal in their opposition to the new criminal code. 31 democrats also voted against the revisions. do you think they are legitimate concerns with the plan, and how should they be addressed? >> look, there is nothing more essential to washingtonians that feeling safe in our neighborhoods. every neighborhood i am in, every group that i speak with, being safe is the number one priority. and i can promise you that those of us in public office here in d.c., and those of us who live here in d.c. are

dialed in on how we make our communities safer. the revised criminal code was a byproduct of a ten plus year effort to revise and bring our criminal code, which was antiquated, inconsistent internally, into the modern era. that criminal code was first passed in 1902. and at a time when women and african americans in our city with even at the table to talk about what the criminal code should say or do. that criminal code revision effort had the best minds at the table, scholars, law enforcement, judges, people from the community thinking about how we, in d.c., make ourselves safer as a community. and the law passed overwhelmingly twice. now, we will keep, we'll people quibble around the edges? of course, but by and large, this legislation, 95% of it is uncontroversial. and candidly, i don't think that republicans in the house are concerned about public safety in the district of columbia when they chose to pick a fight using d.c. law. this is political theater.

it is using d.c. as a prop on the drama that is taking place in our national government, in a hyper partisan divisive congress. if congress folks who are concerned about public safety in the district of columbia really want to put their money where your mouth is, they'll help us fill the judicial vacancies we have an hour superior court, to make sure our criminal justice system works efficiently. that's how you make d.c. safer. works ef>> you know, i must brip that the hasse objected to a d.c. law that would give non citizens the right to vote in local elections, something that is already legal and many other cities and towns across the country, including some suburbs of washington d.c.. is this another sign that this is more about politics then legitimate concerns that congress has with d.c. lawmaking? >> there is nothing more essential to a way the local community works and how next it's local elections.

this was not a federal voting act, this is how d.c. residents would be able to vote in local elections, and again, under the home room act, local legislation to the maximum extent possible, is supposed to be delegated to the city council. it's a all about politics. it's not about the core concerns of the district of columbia, either are public safety or the way that our elections are handled. >> in january, d.c. mayor gathered with delaware senators thomas carper and other d.c. leaders to reintroduce the bills that give d.c. residents they. that's been in force for a long time. this year, in commemoration of the 50th anniversary of the cities limited home rule, you said the house resolution to read d.c. criminal code and overall existing voting access for non citizens in washington highlights an urgent need.

do you think were any closer to see this happen? >> hope springs eternal, rev, i certainly hope so. given where we are with the house now, it would require our republican friends and colleagues to take a deep step backwards and look at what the impact on history will be. this is a fundamental civil rights issue. there is no good moral, legal or principle wide the 700,000 people who live here in the district of columbia should not have full rights as americans. we pay more taxes per capita than any jurisdiction in the country. we fight and die in wars in our country. we ought to have the same rights that all americans have, and particularly, in our nation's capital, a country that is a beacon for democratic values, for representative democracy, all over the country, for the nation's capital to have its citizens deprived at this fundamental right is inexcusable. will raw politics get in the way of principle?

unfortunately, if it passes, the answer is yes. but i hope and am optimistic that the principle of politicians thinking about what quarterback reddick values look like will in fact advance d.c. statehood and do it soon. >> it always has been amazing to me how we can fight all over the world, losing american lives to protect democracies and capitals of other countries, or fighting for and wait and don't want to do it with our own capital. attorney general schwalb, thank you for being with us. note that starting next weekend, msnbc has a new morning lineup. the katy thank show kicks off kudrow now at 8 am eastern and then at nine a.m., get more of jonathan kaye part with the premiere of the saturday show. and then ten a.m., ali velshi kicks up coverage live from ukraine. again, that starts next saturday at eight a.m., here on

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