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politicsnation. tonight's illiad, up in the air. right now, many americans have their eyes on the skies. watching for more than just a super bowl flyover. president biden ordered the u.s. military to shoot down another unidentified object over the great lakes today.

according to a congressional source briefed on the matter, and to u.s. officials. it's the fourth high altitude object shot down in north america, airspace, over the past week. in just a minute, i will talk to a member of the house foreign affairs committee about the latest developments. and as possible foreign threats loom, culture wars are raging at home. i'm headed to florida this week, as international action joins in demonstrations against governor ron desantis to suppress african american studies in the sunshine state schools. i will be talking to a leading scholar at the center of the ongoing debate, just ahead. and later, a big game and a major milestone for the nfl. two black quarterbacks will go head to head tonight. we will discuss the push for

more representation in the coaching ranks, as well. but first, joining me now as congressman jared woods, democrat of florida. he sits on the house foreign affairs committee. congressman, first of, all thank you for joining us tonight. let me start off with your reaction and the reaction on capitol hill this weekend, to what is now the fourth unmanned object to be shot down over north america in the last week. one shot earlier today, over the great lakes. an administration official telling me that the strike was ordered by president biden. at the recommendation of military leaders, that strike was carried out once it no longer posed a severe threat. now, after the one was shot down by the american f 22 fighter jet over the yukon region in canada, just

yesterday. the downing of the object follows the aerial object shut down by the u.s. military over alaska on friday. that one, following the down surveillance balloon from china that crossed the u.s. before being shot down off the south carolina coast last week. now, given your seat on the house affairs, what can you tell us? >> first of all we, our friend, thank you for having me. this is obviously something that the american people are watching. the idea that we shot down three unidentified objects in the last couple of days, one just several minutes ago, the american people deserve to know what it is we are shooting at. look, i don't think we need to call up randi quaid alla independence day. but we are clearly shooting at something. either we knew it had been there for a while, or something that is recently been discovered. so they know what they are

shooting at. it's not that they don't know, they just have been told us. but i think because this has now been so public, the american people need to be educated on what it is that noroton heights garment is doing. >> but should we be concerned? why are we waiting to be educated? should we be concerned? people are walking around, looking up in the air because this is one after another, as i described. four in the last week. >> reverend, look. i'm concerned, and people should also be concerned. they have not briefed congress on what they are doing, so i am in the dark, just as much as you are. and the american people are. so yes, at some point in time, i do think the president has to come out and explain what it is nor ad is doing, and why. i don't believe they can just

continue to do this, or try to push this underneath the rug, that we shot three things out of the sky over the last couple of days. nothing to be concerned about. the american people deserve to know what it is. the u.s. government is doing and not just over u.s. soil, but canadian soil. and the fact that the president of canada, and the president of the night states spoken norton shot something out of canadian airspace also really raises the stakes of what's happening. >> all right, let's go back to capitol hill. what do you make of the growing bipartisan -- calling on new york congressman, joy santos, to step down. in large part, because of his fabricated personal narrative. they are reporting this weekend that some senate republicans are at least quietly concerned that santos is a liability to the gop retaking the senate in 2024.

romney was not quiet about santos, joining the state of the union and telling reporters that he was surprised that speaker kevin mccarthy had called on santos to resign already. and that's just on the senate side. you will recall that a handful of new york house republicans have said that santos would resign. house democrats introduced the resolution for his removal this week. several of santos's own constitutions were to watch this week, demanding he step down. how does this resolve itself? does george santos finished his first term in the u.s. house? is he removed? how does this resolve itself, congressman? >> look, i don't think we know the end of the story. every week, there is a new chapter. senator romney came out and spoke publicly about what republicans are saying quietly. but, look there's a numbers game going on in the u.s.

house. obviously, kevin mccarthy has very tight numbers. he's got the freedom caucus, causing problems behind the scene. it takes one member to call for a vote to vacate the chair under the new rules they agree to. obviously, having anybody leave causes them problems. they had another congressman that fell off a roof, so they lost that vote temporarily. so that's why you have not seen leadership call for george santos to resign. they know that he is an absolute liability to the republican party, in order to try to keep the majority. now, quite frankly, until we rate for him to resign, or maybe law enforcement take some action, he is the gift that keeps on giving the democrats. so i don't know that we want to be so quick to get rid of him. all he continues to do as more stuff comes out, and it continues to shed the light on the hypocrisy of the republican party. >> congressman, i'm out of time. but let me ask you this, lawmakers in your home state of florida voted friday to expand

the states practice of relocating migrants to sanctuary cities in blue states. the bill headed to governor ron desantis. it would allow his administration to relocate migrants from any state, not just florida, in september. to relocate dozens of migrants by plane, from texas, to martha's vineyard. some of those migrants now sued the administration. what is your response to this proposed action? >> i think what the legislature is doing in this instance, reverend, is they are trying to go backwards and say what we did is okay and we're going to make it the law of the state of florida. listen, you're talking to some his grandparents came to this country during the holocaust. this country has been a beacon of freedom for a long period of time. people have stayed in persecution, especially from their government. and we have to stay that way.

the idea that we see republican governors, by the way, it copycat in each other, using human beings as chattel, dropping them off in blue states to try to bring attention to this issue, the border is a serious issue. democrats and republicans do want to make change that the border. but immigration as a whole has to be looked at. it is really despicable and unfortunate that we continue to see people, human beings, used as some sort of tool to try to score some political points. >> all right, thank, you congressman. staying in florida, the president of the national network will be traveling to tallahassee on wednesday to join members of the educational community and members of the black caucus, fellow civil rights leaders, and elected officials for a march to the old state capital to protest florida governor ron desantis's latest attempt to ban teaching

black history in florida schools. joining me now, professor kimberly crenshaw, critical race theory professor scholar at columbia university. and bishop rudy mckissick, the senior pastor of the bethelridge in jacksonville, florida. he is one of the leaders of the march. thank you both for joining me tonight. let me go to you bishop, down florida. you will be hosting the prayer and march preparations at bethel baptist church in tallahassee. and we will kick off the march towards the capital at around noon. why earlier this week, we find that there has been those that have supported the governor, there have been those that have acted against the governor.

why has the faith community gotten so involved,, because we talk to professor crenshaw who's been attacked. and the college board revised its findings, and it's framework for the placement of african american studies. why have the faith leaders got involved in this? and why are you trying to -- >> first of all, reverend al, thank you so much for having me. i think my main reason is because a black church has always been the holistic, prophetic witness in the african american community. so faith leaders are less than leaders if we don't stand with others, in this fight against this oppression and injustice. and reverend al, in your comments, you said one of the very reasons we are doing this

is because the college board adjusted the curriculum. they adjusted the curriculum, and taking some things out, and then inserting black conservatism. which is interesting to me, from a governor who claims he wanted just facts, and not ideologies. and yet now, you allowed them to insert black conservatism into that. which, indeed, is an ideology. >> and it's not even conservative, they don't want to conserve history. professor crenshaw, yesterday the college board pushed back on issues of communication between the scrutiny including claims that they came to the desantis objections, with the original ap court in atlanta state. they insisted that they are committed to making a pea

african american studies the, quote, most rigorous, cohesive immersion that high school students have ever had in this discipline. they also claim that they quote, regret not immediately denouncing the fraudulent problem of education slander. and that the official framework is a significant improvement, rather than bringing doubt. what is your reaction to this? >> reverend, al thank you for having me. it's the most curious mea culpa i've ever seen. they are effectively saying we didn't say anything when desantis came after these ideas, and some of the articles. we stayed silent over the last two years, when republican governors have gone after ideas like critical race theory, and 16 19, and intersectionality. we didn't see anything about that. we basically said, just wait,

we're going to come up with the framework. when the framework comes up, lo and behold, these ideas have been whitewashed out of it. their defense now is not against actually doing that, but against the idea that they did it because desantis told them to. so effectively, it saying, look. we are not guilty of doing something under duress. this was actually premeditated. we did it on our own, and that is supposed to be a defense? >> we didn't do crime, but we did it before he told us to do it. you know, last wednesday, more than 200 students walked out of class at tuscaloosa, alabama, after they say they were told by school teachers to exclude relevant events from a black history month program. they have denied the allegations, but although the

they reportedly said that they were ordered to leave out major storable moments, including slavery and the civil rights movement, what do you think is behind these efforts to silence the discussion of black history? that's why i want to be with reverend mckissick, and the others. because he's gone all of the country. >> this is the test case, this is the moment. these laws have been proliferating around the country for the last two years. they are basically saying that if there is an aspect of black history that makes white students feel uncomfortable, or that is divisive, then it can't be taught. it can't be told. so basically, white feelings are more important than black reality. and it's important for us to realize that this is not new. remember, massive resistance to detail geisha and, to integrating schools, was based on the interests of white children.

and even liberals got involved in it. they were concerned, when they're brown versus board of education is legitimate. they said, how can you choose between white students desires to exclude versus a black students desires integrate? both have resistance, and i would say college boards response to it has been part of our history. that's what critical race theory is trying to elevate. the specious equivalency between white feelings and black reality. >> and that is ultimately the white supremacy -- they become uncomfortable. they didn't care about confederate flags making us uncomfortable, but they will be uncomfortable hearing history. we're talking about history. looking ahead, the ship, how do you anticipate desantis in the florida education officials will respond to wednesday's march? what are you hoping to accomplish? >> well, we hope to serve notice on the governor on

several counts. one, that as the professor just said, we are not going to allow you to use us as your test for your president say. number two, it is beyond the college course. now going after state colleges and schools that teach anything on diversity, inclusion, and equity. he is not a native american, so how does he tell these children how he even got the opportunity to be the governor, if he's not going to talk about diversity and inclusion? it is our hope to put this in his face, to call him into the carpet and force him to make changes. they are covering, up reverend al, books in high schools and elementary schools. in duval county, they were told they could not teach a book on rosa parks, a book on hank

errol in duval county, where i live. and as far as uncomfortable lady, let me tell you what's uncomfortable. police brutality. voter disenfranchisement. that is uncomfortable, and it's interesting to me, the same people that don't want the statues down because it is our history, want to take the books out. but that is our history, as well. >> which is why i say, it's white supremacy. their feelings are supposed to be, and i think you coined it right, professor. saying that they are more important than our reality. you are the face of intersectionality. you are the one who coined that, and we all our students of yours. what could be more inclusive in american life than intersectionality? that is not divisive, that is saying that everybody comes together. i don't even understand the logic of their argument, maybe

because there is no logic. >> there is a logic. first, let me say, what do we lose when we give up intersectionality? we can't understand why black women have the highest maternal mortality rate. we can't understand why, among women, they are the most likely to be killed by the police, and so on. but i think what really is behind this is the fear that intersectionality is a uniting framework. people see common cause with each other. so the reality is the black people are not just straight, they're not just men, and they're not just middle class. when we expand our understanding of black reality to include the way the patriarchy, homophobia, class shapes our reality, so we can better transform it, it means that we have connections with other movements and other people. and that is exactly why they are trying to force us to give up intersectionality. and that is why it's a shame that the college board went along with it. >> all right. i think both you, professor,

kimberly crenshaw, and the bishop rudy mckissick junior for being with us tonight. coming up, lawmakers in minnesota are rising up to address a voter suppression tactic that goes all the way back to jim crow. and later, new reporting reveals that the trump campaign knew about the presidents claim of election fraud, and why they kept the findings of their own study a secret. but first, an update with -- richard? >> thank you, rev. good sunday to you. some of the stories we're watching, the earthquake death toll in turkey and syria just surpassed 33,000 people. that's a jump of almost 10,000 in one day, as first responders struggle there. it's been a week since 7.8 magnitude quake shook the region. rescue workers one of a possible secondary disaster there, struggling to meet the needs of hundreds of thousands of homeless and displaced

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the bill now goes to the state senate, and if passed, the governor has agreed to sign the legislation. right now, less than half the country has -- which leaves out millions of the u.s. with a conviction from the voting process. these laws are relics of the jim crow era, designed to keep african americans from voting. after the civil war, whites in power came up with the racist plan called the black codes to prevent black people from gaining power. they received harsh sentences for minor offenses, that ultimately barred anyone with a conviction from voting. since the voting rights act of 1965, people from marginalized communities are still being disenfranchised from

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stories and opportunity to criticize president biden. however, presidents of the house select committee are hoping to bring democrats and republicans together for a more serious discussion of the national security challenges we face. are you optimistic that can happen? >> absolutely, senator. the tests could not have been stronger by the incursion of a balloon into american airspace. some have criticized biden, that he was convinced by his own administration to shoot it down later, which they did over the coast of north carolina. these balloons have been going on a long time, it's surprising to me that this is a complete miscalculation by the chinese, who've been trying to improve relations with united states. but instead, they have served to bring republicans democrats together to condemn the chinese spying operation. this has worldwide geopolitical implications on china.

china is very concerned with whether america would defend taiwan. i think with incidents like this, it makes more likely that america would be unified against china on taiwan. and also, the republicans and democrats want to decide to move against china in an economic way. china can afford -- so i think china is really in retreat mode here. they want to divide americans and make them weak. this has united americans against chinese spying. >> president biden called out china in his state of the union address. do you think the white house has done a good job communicating a clear message to americans, during this period of heightened tensions between the two countries? >> yeah, i think that they have done the best of their ability. we're obviously investigating still, all these objects that are still coming down. i think it's going to be more

that we are going to need to be aware of -- but as far as they can tell, without reaching any additional sensitive communication. they handled that pretty masterfully, when it comes to foreign policy. where as having been a senator, i think that they've done a good job of what they can do with this threat. it's continuously coming down, so it is very much -- the american public will be paying attention to it. >> sticking with you, tina, president biden and fox were not able to reach an agreement for a super bowl interview this year. the pregame sit-down has been a yearly event since george w. bush's administration, although president trump didn't do won in 2018, nbc was carrying the game. these interviews have a large audience, but they have grown

less comfortable as the country's become more politically divided. we don't know all the behind the scenes details, but do you think this was a missed opportunity for the president? >> you know, look. he tried to make a compromise by doing the interview -- we don't know the reasons why it fell through. but quite frankly, those who are making it seem like he is giving an opportunity to talk to millions of americans are ignoring the fact that he gave wide-ranging interviews to millions of americans across different networks, like msnbc, cbs, abc, and other networks too numerous to name. to let folks know what is happening in the administration. so to make it seem like he is not doing what he needs to be doing, as president, by not seem down fox news is a little

incorrect. if you are fox viewers only watches fox news, then you are not listening to what president biden is saying. >> let's turn to former president trump. the washington post is reporting trump's 2020 campaign hired a whole team to investigate alleged election fraud. but never released their findings. that's because, according to four people familiar with the matter, the researchers were unable to find any proof trump was the rightful winner. the 2020 campaign seems to haunt trump, even two years later. do you think his inability to let it go is one of trump's biggest weaknesses for 2024? >> it's absolutely the biggest weakness, and the irony here is that trump has conclusively proven that the election was

not stolen in 2020. a fact that he knew all along. and so they did not release, it because he has the same mindset with the judges. he thought all these judges, i think there were 48, they all ruled against him on the supreme court. and so, he thought he could pay this company, they conducted this very extensive study on the states that he had won in 2016, and lost in 2020. and they found no systematic fraud in the election. according to sources who reported on the story anonymously, they confirmed that biden was the legitimate winner of the election. >> all right, rick hiler, thank you both for being with us. in just under an hour, two

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phoenix in less than an hour. and for the first time in nfl history, the starting quarterbacks in the nation's most wide reported event, patrick mahomes of kansas city chiefs, and jalen hurts of the philadelphia eagles, they are both black. the league has evolved on the field with more black quarterbacks throwing passes in the pros this season than ever before. yet the number of head black coaches calling the plays on the sidelines, remains disproportionately low. for a league that remains disproportionately black. joining me now is -- sports writer and correspondent on -- i have never purpose to be a big sports guy.

but i'm also old enough to remember racists saying that the quarterback position in the nfl required too much intellect for black players to succeed. fast forward to the 80s, and you start to see brothers lining up behind the center for major nfl franchises. brando cunningham. and of course, doug williams, who became the first qb to start and win a super bowl in 1988, with the washington foreign shies. still, even from those trail blazers, there's been an evolution of black quarterbacks getting the franchise tag. becoming the public face of the team and all the pressure that comes with, it on and off the field. that's precisely what you have tonight, with mahomes and hurts. two black franchise quarterbacks, who will do

battle here in less than an hour. what does it say to you, miss davidson? >> well, first of all, rev you're absolutely right that we have this long history of, frankly, racist reasons the black quarterbacks have been kept out of that position. and it's mostly to do with notions about their athletic ability overpowering their intellect. and the idea that to be a play caller, to be on the center takes a different kind of skill set that the natural athleticism a black athlete does not lend. and obviously, that is false. we are seeing that evolved into the problem of the dearth of black head coaches. it is emergent to see as many black quarterbacks as we're seeing in the game right now. i would caution to say that that doesn't really signal the fact that people in the nfl and who are making these decisions are any less racist. this has been an evolution of necessity. the game has changed, it's been impossible to ignore the immense intellect that these athletes bring to the table. and, frankly, the nfl is a copycat league. once you start seeing success

with patrick mahomes, with a lamar jackson, other teams have been able to jump on board and eventually draft players like jalen hurts. >> last, year we had an nfl coach, brian flores, on this show, shortly after he sued the league and several teams for racial discrimination. alleging that he was interviewed for head coaching jobs so that the league could look like it was complying with its diversity initiative. the so-called rudy rule. and at the end of this nfl season, you had just four black head coaches having entered the season with just three. that is in a lead of 32 teams, somewhere between 60 and 70% black, in terms of player personnel. you can't contrast with nearly half of those teams, starting a black qb at some point this season. 29% of this season featured a

black starter. according to an p.i. and football perspective, 21 black quarterbacks had at least one pass this season. the highest number ever. looking at those numbers, why are the nfl owners and even some fans good with having black quarterbacks leading their teams on the field, but it at least appears they are less forgiving or supportive of black head coaches, leading the team from the sidelines? >> well, i'd argue that the same notions that had kept black players out of the quarterback position the nfl are the ones of now shifted to the focus on black coaches. the idea that there isn't a leadership quality, that there is an iq that isn't there. some things that aren't natural or physical abilities. obviously we've seen a proven false. on the black quarterbacks side of things, one of the arguments that has been used as a white teammates and fans would not be able to rally around a black

leader in the locker room. and very clearly, that has been proven false. but unfortunately, that idea has not translated yet to the coaching level. and since the rudy rule was implemented, we've seen that happen. i want to mention, is since we're talking about jalen hurts and patrick mahomes here, and coaches, there's an assistant coach of the philadelphia eagles who tonight will become the first black woman to coach in the super bowl. i want to make sure that we are giving her her flowers. because what progress is slow, it is coming. >> you brought it up, i was going to mention lockwood. that's a major and important factor tonight. let me go to this, then. in the midst of all these statements, i haven't gotten to the obvious question. who is winning tonight, and why? who is your choice? >> all right. so, the unbiased opinion i'm going to have is philadelphia's defense is way too good. as a native new yorker and giants fan, it pains me to root for a philly team.

so it would be nice to see the dynasty continue in kansas city, but these are two fan bases are going to go wild matter what happens tonight. >> who are you rooting for? do you have a dog in this race? >> if i had to pick a team to root for, kansas city. >> kansas city. you're rooting for kansas city. but you think philadelphia has a good defense. all right. we are going to see curry thumb davidson. note, starting next weekend, msnbc has a new morning a lineup. the katie phang show kicks off coverage at 8 am eastern. then at nine a.m., get more of jonathan capehart with the premiere of the saturday show. and it ten, ali velshi has coverage live from ukraine. again,, that starts next saturday at 8 am here on msnbc. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us.

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