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three students killed, five others in critical condition after a gunman opens fire at michigan state university. we will bring you the latest details on the investigation. happening now on capitol hill, a classified briefing for u.s. senators on the mysterious objects found flying over u.s. airspace, plus what we just learned about one of the shootdowns over the weekend. a new inflation is out, so what does it mean for the price you pay for food and gas? we will ask one of the president's top economic agents about that. more people being pulled out alive. we will take you live to the scene. nikki haley the first republican to challenge trump in the 2024 primary. what her white house run means.

we begin this hour with our top story. yet another mass shooting on yet another college campus. this morning officials are searching for answers after a gunman opens fire at michigan state university overnight, sending the entire campus into chaos. a student from this video showing people frantically fleeing and crying for help as police swarm the scene in search of the gunman. now we're hearing from another student who witnessed the attack that said she'll never forget the screams of her classmates. >> like, really, i could hear gunshots, like, directly behind my head. i could see the smoke, the gunpowder or something from the weapon firing. i could smell that, and immediately i dropped to the floor with all of my classmates and somebody was yelling there was a shooter and everybody needed to get down on the ground. at that moment i thought that i was going to die.

>> claire also thanked her classmates for springing into action and helping one another escape the scene through a window. the shooting started in an academic building. after that, another shooting was reported at the student union center. there was an hour's long manhunt for the suspect and the gunman was later found dead from a self inflicted gunshot wound. joining us now from the campus, our reporter, and an msnbc terrorism contributor. jesse, what is the latest on the investigation so far? >> reporter: yeah, josé, at this point we are still trying to figure out the answer to the question why? why did this happen? we are talking about a suspect that had no affiliation with this university community. a 43-year-old man is accused of shooting and killeding three people, and shooting another five that are injured, and all

eight of the people shot were michigan university students, and they were young people, three of who had their lives cut short by this violence according to authorities. at this point the investigation is continuing, and there have been portions of the campus blocked off. they have suspended campus activities here. we just spoke with a few students who are reuniting and have been in communication over the last 24 hours as all of this unfolded. you can get a sense of the raw emotional nature of what this community is going through right now, and it's not just the students going through it, but the people helping them including from one of the doctors that spoke about what it has been like for his team to be treating these people. this is what a doctor had to say, and you will notice he gets quite emotional. >> we received a lot of texts that were just, i am on my way, and people showing up.

it was a sad but very proud night for all of us here. >> reporter: of the five people who were injured and are still alive according to that doctor, four of them needed to have surgery. here's one other thing i want to underscore about the frantic situation that we're getting an idea of what was unfolding last night, josé. we were told by police that obviously this occurred around 8:30 in the evening, and it was hours before they announced the alleged shooter shot and killed himself. before that had happened police put out photographs of the suspect saying they were looking for this alleged gunman, and police say it was quickly after the photos went out they got a tip from a citizen and that led them to find the suspect, again, who according to police, shot

and killed himself. at this point, we are still trying to get an answer to the question, josé, that you would hope might give closure. at this point we don't have that answer, and it's why, why did this happen, josé. >> i am thinking these are young people starting out their lives, and those lives have been cut down, and as we said, five people still in difficult circumstances and in hospitals. jim, what are the questions you have right now? >> josé, i hate to say we get back to the basics here, but this is a campus building that is open to the public, and my question is why, why is it open to the public? it shouldn't be. they should have a lock on the door and each student could have the combination. that reduces your chances of some random person coming in and assaulting people in there. of course, a student, could always commit a crime, but you

have better control over the population that is in your campus community and life. just basic security. don't leave these campus buildings open to anybody that wants to walk in and get a crime. put a lock on the door and people that need to get in can get in. and did he use one or more of the guns criminally, did he obtain them criminally or legally, and did anybody encourage him? what is his mind-set? what's his psychosis here? i think we are going to see the suicide running this -- the thread running through this like we do in half of the mass killings. there's a suicide underlining it, and i think that's something we don't talk about enough or see enough, because a lot of these things are a suicide and

then the person becomes homicidal in a spree during their suicidal desires. that needs to be looked at. unfortunately, it's a sad case. we won't be able to do much. there may not be anybody to prosecute anybody in the gun case, but for the campus administrators and people running schools, lock the darn doors. let's have basic security, you know, when you complain about somebody game in the facility and shot people and they don't have a reason to be in your building, they are not an employee or a student, and if you have a public building, you have to do something different for security there. >> thank you both this morning. on capitol hill senators are receiving a classified briefing on the unidentified objects shot

down after entering american airspace. and secretary loyal austin is in brussels meeting. milly confirmed the first attempt to down it missed. >> on the fourth one over lake huron, the first shot missed and the second shot hit. in this case the missile landed harmlessly in the water of lake huron. >> overnight a major development of the recovery efforts of the suspected chinese spy balloon shot off over the coast of south carolina. and there was priority sensors and electronic pieces and large sections of the structure recovered. joins us, jake sherman, and dennis wilder who served as a

top white house asian aide to president george w. bush. what did secretary austin say? >> reporter: he said the three follow-on unidentified objects that none had been recovered, and secretary austin said that last night. general milley reiterated that today and he spoke about how difficult the terrain was where the three of them went down. he expressed optimism and said ultimately he believes they will be able to get to the three of them and remember, josé, at this point, we are several days out from the first of them being shot down. we don't know who sent them or what their purpose was, and we are calling them unidentified objects rather than a balloon or what they may have been.

that's all the information we got out of secretary austin and general milley, and it's important to remember that these are two of the people who are in the room during the discussion about what the u.s. should do, so from the time that first chinese spy balloon entered into u.s. airspace until they took out the fourth object only hours ago, they were the ones making the decisions and recommendations to the white house to actually shoot those down, josé. >> jake, meanwhile we are saying the senators are receiving a briefing on it. what you have been hearing on capitol hill? >> josé, at this hour, literally, and the meeting is breaking up right now right before i came over here, and senators were in the classified briefing with dod officials and norad officials and all sorts of people and three main briefers trying to understand what is going on. i don't think they got a ton of answers, and senator lindsay graham said the administration and the military is getting

better at detecting these things. i think the big push and pull now is they torqued up the radar so much they fear they are catching things that are not monitoring devices that could be, as some officials have stated, trash that is flying through the air. there's deep skepticism at the moment the administration is handling this correctly because most senators are not getting a ton of information. that's what they are going to wrestle with over the next foreseeable future as they try to get a handle on this. >> there's a fine line of sensitive information, and how much of the information you release, and there's very little information coming out of the white house. how do you read that? >> well, i think to be honest with you, the intelligence community has been caught off guard by this whole set of circumstances. they really didn't expect

something like the major chinese balloon, and now they are dealing with these other so-called objects. i am a little perplexed by calling them objects. the canadians called theirs a balloon. we heard from kirby at the white house that these have no propulsion to them, that they are floating in the atmosphere. if they are not a balloon, i don't know what they are. >> courtney, overnight, and we just reported on that, and we are learning the u.s. is able to recover big pieces, electronics from the suspected chinese spy balloon. why has it taken so long when this was off the coast and apparently in 45 to 50-foot waters? >> reporter: so it's two main reasons. one is degree field was pretty large. they had to really bring it down to a smaller area and then just simply take the time to gather them up. the second one is just the weather, it made it difficult

sometimes. the sea was too rough and it was more time consuming process than expected. out in the middle of the yukon, a remote area, and frozen ice near alaska, and the one in lake huron, it landed on the canadian side and so the canadian authorities are taking the lead on that one. the difficult weather conditions will make this a slower process, and even though they have not recovered anything yet, that's going to be the real key here. if they are able to bring any of the pieces back together to tell us what they are, and we are hearing more and more indications that we are not sure if these came from another nation, and people are starting to use the word balloon a little more than initially, so we will have to wait and see what they can actually recover. >> jake, anybody on capitol hill thinking about doing their over

oversight over investigation into this? >> yeah, people already have. john tester, who is the chairman in charge of the pentagon's budget said he would do that and conduct their own hearings and this is where they will ask for money and we are seeing oversight, essentially, josé. they are giving classified briefings and we imagine there would be more in the next couple of weeks, and congress is out next week, but the week after that when congress comes back into session, and i can't imagine the gang of eight, i have to imagine they are also getting classified briefings. across the board there's going on behind the scenes and in public. >> dennis, give us a big picture of china's surveillance program and the use of these balloons, you know, over the united states' territory, and we have

seen columbia talking about seeing one of the balloons, and japan is talking about that. what is the picture for china's balloon program? >> right. the administration says it has been going on for a while, and they think that over 40 countries have been surveilled by these balloons. i have to tell you, the latest balloon that came over the united states was the most audacious act by the chinese military that i have seen in years. this was a big balloon. it was going to get spotted. i can't believe the chinese military thought they would somehow get away with this as a stealth aircraft of some sort. it's just a little inexplicable why xi jinping would approve such a thing, and he may have

approved of the program years ago but didn't really have eyes on this particular mission, and i think he regrets it greatly, and maybe some heads will roll in the chinese military because of it. >> thank you very much for being with us this morning. up next, the new inflation report is back. we will talk to a key member of president biden's economic team, cecilia rouse after prices rose next month. pence is fighting back. what he plans to do about that special counsel subpoena. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. s. astepro starts working in 30 minutes. so you can [ spray, spray ] astepro and go. postmenopausal women with hr+ her2- metastatic breast cancer are living longer with kisqali.

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21 past the hour. we are following breaking news. former vice president pence plans to fight a subpoena issued by special council jack smith in his investigation into trump's role in the january 6th attack

on the capitol, according to a source familiar with his plans. joining us is garrett haake. what can you tell us? >> reporter: we learned last week the former president would probably try to block his vice president's testimony by using executive privilege, arguing their communications were privileged and he shouldn't have to disclose them in a criminal investigation. now we are learning pence's legal team is going with a different theory, the executive privilege that protects legislators from any kind of outside interference in this case from the executive branch. his attorneys will argue the only real job the vice president has according to the constitution, his job that day and any discussions around it would be privileged. it's a legal argument we have not seen in this context before, and i can't find any examples of a vice president being subpoenaed in this manner so it's untested and unproven, and

it shows the length pence and his team wants to go to make sure he is not compelled to testify in this case. pence is out at some political events tomorrow, so i expect we will hear more from him then. thank you. there's a mixed bag of news when it comes to inflation. the labor department said earlier today that the consumer price index which measures the change in prices for foods, goods and services rose half a percentage in january and is higher than expected, but year over year prices were up 6.4%, and that's a slight slowdown from the 6.5% reading in december. rising costs for food, fuel and housing were the biggest contributors to the price increases, with food prices raising by half a percent last month. many key food items saw a price decrease last month.

notably the price of eggs up another 8.5%. with us to talk about this is cecilia rouse, chair of the white house economic advisers. it's a pleasure to see you and thank you for being with us. what is your read on this inflation report? >> this report suggests that we have an economy that is resilient and an economy where we see inflation continuing to ease with a labor market that remains robust. what we learned today inflation year on year has come down for seven straight months in a row, and the month on month increases where ad expectations and they were stable, so it was the same month on month increase in terms of core inflation, and gas prices increased in january compared to december, and we can see in february gas prices declined. we continue to see that inflation is showing signs of

easing as chair powell has said. this is going to be a process, and inflation remains too high and we are making progress we need to see in order to achieve the soft landing where the inflation comes down and the labor market remains robust. >> what do you read on the prices continuing to rise again, on that specific issue? >> well, inflation is when prices are rising, so we understand that inflation is too high. if we look at inflation in january, which was overall 6.4%, that's incontrast to 9.1% last june, so the rate of inflation has come down. we know if we look at the headline inflation, as you pointed out, and as i pointed out, gas prices accelerated in january and are easing in february, and they arevolatile of the result of the war in ukraine and other global events.

the food at home, grocery prices decelerated last month, and the increases were in restaurants. if we look at grocery prices, yes, the price of eggs increase than at a slower rate last month, and that's largely due to the avian flu. we can see wholesale prices for eggs start to come down and we expect that to be in february's report. we are seeing signs that inflation is starting to ease. >> i point you to a "new york times" article today that talks about the impact rising prices are having on senior citizen. i want to read aquote. as prices climb experts worry older individuals who are in poor physical health or have lower incomes are at greater risk for not having enough food or having less healthy foods and the squeeze has the potential to isolate them socially if they

back away from activities like eating out with friends. what would you say to those folks, cecilia? >> absolutely. inflation is painful across the economy, and that's why the federal reserve is taking action and why president biden is focused on inflation. if we go to seniors in the inflation reduction act, he was focused on decreasing costs for them in terms of health care, so many of the seniors, many of whom rely on insulin, for example, were paying those prices for insulin and starting in january, it capped at $35 a month. and starting next year, their out of pocket expenses will be capped at $2,000 a month, and through the inflation reduction act, the president is focussed

on trying to control cost because we understand what that squeeze can be. it's important to understand that we have historically low unemployment. unemployment came in last month at 3.6%. i appreciate that most of the seniors are not participating in the labor market, but now many americans that want a job can find one. you are hearing about companies laying off workers and some of the workers are not in the u.s., and many of the workers are more highly skilled and find a job quickly. we have a robust labor market that is helping to counteract that. we know inflation is too high and it's starting to ease and that's why the president is giving the fed the space it needs to do its job. >> before i let you go, there are some reports you plan on leaving your post at the white house. what are your future plans? >> it has been widely reported, i am a professor on leave from

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gripped the hand of a rescuer as he was carried to safety. this is tens of thousands leaving their disaster-tricken neighborhoods unsure when or if they will ever return. in syria where the u.n. says more than 5 million people are now displaced, many having to live in makeshift camps like at a local school yard. a father that moved his family there said he fled from war just six years ago, and kelly cobiella joins us from turkey this morning. are people getting the help they need? >> reporter: i think it's a complicated question, a complicated answer, josé. some people are, yes, and aid is getting out slowly. we are seeing more tents popping up in this area, and beyond, but

frankly the need is immense. the government has said that a million people are in temporary shelters that includes tents and other shelters have opened up, like community centers and mosques, and people are sleeping in their cars and looking for tents. we are at a local community center here, and they are serving up meals to about 1,000 people, a voluntary group. they said they started doing that because they noticed there was not enough aid coming in, and there was so many people in need of food. while we were there one woman came up to one of the volunteers and asked if she could find a tent somewhere because she had children and she needed to find shelter for them now going into the ninth cold night since those two quakes struck. listen, josé, one of the problems we are hearing from both aid agencies and others on the ground, one large

international aid agency said all the aid has to be filtered through turkey's disaster department and they decide how to distribute it. we are hearing the same thing from a volunteer searching, and that centralization is creating a choke point and making it tougher to get aid and help to people that need it on the ground, get it quickly, josé, that's the issue. >> kelly cobiella, thank you so much. coming up, it's official. nikki haley throws her hat in the ring for 2024. what this means. you are watching "josé diaz-balart reports." td ameri. hi anna, this position is all over the place. subscriptions are down, but that's only an estimated 15% of their valuation. how'd you know that? the company profile tool, in thinkorswim®. yes, i love you!! td ameritrade.

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ambassador and south carolina governor nikki haley announced she is running for president, saying it's time for a new generation of leadership. she's expected to kick off her campaign with an event in charleston tomorrow. she is the first to challenge donald trump for the republican nomination. a short time ago, donald trump wished her luck. what do you think nikki haley's appeal to republicans is? >> well, if you listen to her message in that video, josé, it's clear that she's trying to talk to those republicans who like donald trump but feel that he wouldn't be the best candidate, that it's time to have a new generation, a younger, a different candidate holding the party's banner going up against president biden or whoever democrats nominate. she's really trying to make that

generational change argument as she launched the campaign. to be fair to her there are a lot of republicans out there that say donald trump is good and i liked his policies but we need somebody different this time. >> does she pose a major challenge to trump? >> it does send a strong message. remember, josé, for years, donald trump has been feared in the republican party. he intimidated everyone. he has beaten everybody into submission, so nikki haley by taking this step forward when donald trump is the candidate for the president right now for republicans is saying no. this is a different time. we don't have to fear donald trump and we should put different alternatives out there and let republican primary choose. >> he wished her luck. >> i assume there's sarcasm, and

he expect loyalty from anybody with an "r" in front of their name, and he's probably trying to not overreact and not seem too much like a bully as nikki haley comes into the race. >> do you think the republican party will add more presidential candidates going forward? >> i think this will be the first of many, josé. again, people don't perceive that donald trump is as strong as he used to be, and that is encouraging a lot of republicans who do want to take this step, including people like mike pompeo and others who worked under donald trump, and even his own vice president, mike pence, is thinking about it. as we get closer to the summer and into the summer, we will see a number of republicans throw their hats in the race. >> your thoughts of immigration reform, and as we know there has not been any comprehensive

immigration reform since 1986, and there are efforts under way in the senate, bipartisan efforts. what is the difficulty in getting anything done? >> what i found during my time in congress, josé, is that most politicians in congress, republican and democrat, do prefer the politics of immigration over the solutions for immigration. if you solved immigration, you can't campaign on it the next election using fear and those kinds of tactics, so a lot of people have not wanted to take that step. the good news this time, josé, is that you have a healthy and robust dialogue going on right now between senators sinema and tillis and others. what they are hoping is that the house will take some action, even if it's modest and narrow, that way they can form a conference committee and try to build legislation that can solve a lot of the big challenges with immigration. >> can there be a piece by piece

in the house of representatives just to start? >> well, i think it's pretty clear by now a broad comprehensive piece of legislation is unlikely to move, but perhaps if house republicans do have ad concerns with immigration that they want to address, maybe senate republicans and democrats can find a deal that includes dreamers, a permanent solution for dreamers and you can marry different components. >> are you optimistic at all? >> i am optimistic because kyrsten sinema and thom tillis are great dealmakers, and every bipartisan piece that passed last year, kyrsten sinema was in the middle of it, so her involvement gives me hope. >> thank you. up next, michigan state campus is mourning after a mass

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the latest out of michigan state university. we have new details on the suspected gunman that university officials say had a note on him, which is under investigation by law enforcement. nbc news is also reporting exclusively the suspect's father says his son turned, quote, evil and mean after his mother died. that shooting happened the day before the five-year mark since the massacre at marjorie stoneman douglas in parkland, florida, where 17 students and faculty was killed. >> it's also goingparkland. >> it's also the first time since jamie was killed where i'm struggling to find new memories and pictures and videos to share of jamie. because it stopped. there are no new.

this is the year. it's actually making this year strangely more difficult where that is hitting home. >> joining us now is sam brock. you are in parkland. how is the community doing today? >> reporter: the community right now is trying to process the events really of just the last 24 hours and, of course, the difficulty of every day having to deal with the pain of not having a loved one that sits in your soul. you heard it a second ago from mr. guttenberg talking about this beautiful life was ripped away. we had a situation where there was someone in lockdown five years ago that was also in lockdown in michigan. that's just a sense into how inverted this reality is for so many. you are looking at video on your screen of portraits of the 17 souls who died that day, 14 students, 3 staff members surrounded by floral arrangements. today is going to be about the

victims and the families. not policy, not politics, but the victims. what you are looking at right there. at 5:30, there's a commemoration service. faith leaders are expected to speak. no politicians. gina loved to read and connect with new people. she was the first one to welcome other people to class when they moved to the area. they passed laws here. he says it's part of furthering their legacies. listen to what he had to say to me. >> we adopted the school safety triad, securing the campus, better mental health screening and support programs and if you choose to own one, responsible firearms ownership. we know the status quo failed us that day. we know that all three of these things push and pull on one another to keep our students and our teachers safe in school.

>> reporter: where he is standing there in the visual is a couple of miles from where i am right now. it's the site of a future memorial, 150 acres of natural preserve that was gifted to parkland 17. they are doing what they can to put up a memorial in honor of the student and staff members. that's expected to be created in the next three to five years. columbine took ten years. sandy hook as well. they have the land and it's expected to be a sanctuary for the pain that this community experienced. >> sam brock in parkland, thank you so much. coming up, a mother in texas got the shock when she went to school to pick up her sick daughter. what she came home with may surprise you. we will tell you about that next.

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in texas when she realized she was going into labor. that's when a fifth grade teacher, who was once a doctor, stepped in to help. morgan chesky has the latest. >> reporter: good morning. call it coincidence, divine intervention or luck, a mother says she has been blessed with plenty of it. she showed up here to pick up her daughter. then left the school adding a new family member. all thanks in large part to one teacher who just so happened to know exactly what to do. born seven pounds, one ounce, she's not saying much. she knows how to make an entrance. coming into the world at her sisters' school. >> i thought i left my e.r. days behind. it's crazy. >> reporter: crazy because the school nurse called lauren to pick up her sick daughter but was soon treating the pregnant mother when she went into labor. >> i never delivered a baby.

i watched one birth during nursing school. okay, let me try to remember what they did. i was panicking. >> reporter: that's when a fifth grade teacher got the call. report to the nurse's office. she took one look at mom and realized she would never get to a hospital in time. >> don't worry. i was a medical doctor in my country. i deliver a lot of babies. >> reporter: her native venezuela. before teaching, she delivered hundreds of babies as an ob/gyn resident. >> reporter: what are you saying to each other throughout this process? >> i was with a real friend, with my doctor. when she start talking to me, the scary part went away. >> she let us guide her through the delivery process. >> reporter: ten minutes later, inside the elementary school, the mother of two became a mom

of three. when you hear the crying -- >> yeah. >> reporter: you knew everything is okay. >> yes. i was smiling. i was happy. i couldn't believe it. i just couldn't believe it. >> reporter: friends that today can't help but smile. >> everybody should experience that. it's beautiful. when the baby comes and start crying, you just feel that amazing energy. >> reporter: perez isn't giving up teaching any time soon but is happy to play baby backup should the need arise. >> what are the odds of having a baby at a school but having a doctor there that's done it? we are lucky. blessed, i would say. >> reporter: today, mom and little one doing fine. the mother tells me because of this school surprise, she was having to reschedule her plans just a little bit. she was going to spend the afternoon prior to inducing labor marinating on baby names.

when she ended up at the hospital and they asked, what's the little girl's name? she went with her gut and she ended up with lady madeleine. >> morgan chesky, thank you. that wraps up the hour for me. you can reach me on twitter and instagram. catch highlights from today's show online at jdbalartmsnbc.com. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," michigan state devastated by a horrific mass shooting. three people were killed, five others are in critical condition as a campus of 55,000 tries to make sense of another mass tragedy. >> my classmates in the back of the classroom started to scream for help. my other classmates jumped into