connection. getting more sleep. that was a big one. >> found time for all that. >> once i put my phone down. >> brooke set up a nightly video chat with the center she missed. >> we facetimed every night for 15, 20 minutes. >> that's something you wouldn't have done. >> brian says he's gotten a lot out of the class. >> it makes me super conscious about what i'm grateful for and what makes me happy. >> are you happier after taking this course? >> yes. >> i think it like kind of really allowed us to focus on like what's real and what's actually important, which is happiness. >> absolutely amazing. our thanks to kate snow for that report. we have a lot to get to in the second hour of chris jansing reports. let's get right to it. at this hour, a january 6th rioter breaks into tears as he

enters a guilty plea for attacking michael fanone with a stun gun. while admitting guilt, we'll tell you who else he blames. plus, unconscionable. that's what the state department is saying after issuing a new and disturbing report out of ukraine. they say russia relocated at least 6,000 ukrainian children and are placing them in so-called reeducation camps. first, i'll talk to catie beck who is in south carolina. she is covering the murdaugh trial. sam brock is in florida where lawmakers are considering relaxing gun laws and nbc's maggie vespa is at michigan state where a gunman killed three students, but we start with mike memoli who's at the white house for us. we've been hearing from senators who are coming out of a briefing about what's happened in the skies. the objects were shot down. one after the other said whether he knows stuff or he can talk about what he doesn't know, we want to hear from the president.

what's the white house strategy right now? >> well as you were just showing before, the president now at the podium speaking to a group of local elected officials. this is his first public event since the downing of those three additional objects on super bowl sunday. yes, the chorus of criticism is growing louder. the question of when the president might address the many questions we've had about this incident also growing louder. the perspective of the white house is even when they still have many questions unanswered. this is not the time to put the president out there. they don't want him to say i don't know to reporters who have these questions. that's why we're going to be seeing the press secretary speak this hour. we heard from morning from john kirby who did offer insight into the three downed objects over the weekend saying that the leading assessment at this moment is that these might have

been either commercial objects or at least were benign. there's no indication at this moment that these are connected to the chinese government's espionage program. it also is worth noting that this is a president who in the past when he has made unscripted comments about china has raised certain alarm bells say, especially as it relates to taiwan. so the white house clearly wants the president to be able to speak from a position of authority. a position of being able to provide information to the american people that at the moment, the administration itself doesn't have. >> thank you for that. now to michigan state university where classes are paused after the horrific shooting that claimed the lives of three students. maggie, we talked last hour about the details of the investigation. tell me now about the students. the ones you've seen and had a chance to talk to. how are they coping? >> reporter: yeah, chris, unfortunately, they're kind of

going through everything that we've come to expect communities to go through when they endure mass shootings. they've watched this unfold and watched news coverage of events like this before. what's perhaps more striking is that we just interviewed two students, both who have been through mass casualty events. one freshman said he was cowering with ten to 15 other students as this happened last night. he also told me the gunman walked through the back lot of his fraternity house and made eye contact with one of his fraternity brothers. i said have you seen events like this on the news, did you think you would be a part of one? he said i have been a part of one. i was in boston when the boston marathon bombings had. my dad was running that race. cut to an hour later, i'm standing across the street on campus talking to a senior here at msu who's studying to be an attorney in her senior year, just applied to law school.

having survived the sandy hook shooting. she was in sixth grade when that happened. now she's a senior at michigan state university. having to call her parents last night and tell them, mom, dad, it's happening again. we have been seeing kind of memorials popping up on campus. you can hear students behind me. some walking around the flowers, hugging each other. also, memorials on campus, spray painted on a rock, how many more. students here are feeling everything you can imagine. a lot of them telling us they haven't slept. they're still processing this. and a lot of them still trying to figure out the same thing investigators are trying to figure out. the gunman in his 40s. never a staff member, a student, and they just want to know why this happened. chris? >> the idea that we have so many students who are now going through their second mass shooting. maggie vespa, thank you for that. it has been five years since the mass shooting at marjory

stoneman douglas high school in parkland. of course, sam brock is there for us. i can see balloons behind you. i wonder how people are marking this, but there's also controversy about legislation because i know there are a lot of folks there who fought hard to change the laws in florida. now there are some other proposals out there. get us up to date, sam. >> for sure, chris. also just to add another layer to what maggie was reporting. there was a student who was in lockdown five years ago on valentine's day who was in lockdown again last night at michigan state. the interconnections over these mass shootings are too many to even enumerate because they are so common. in terms of what you're talking about, in florida, there's a proposal, we have been told, it's not been submitted to the legislature, that would allow for concealed carry with no permit and no training. you might wonder how would a state that has absorbed these

tragedies, how are they going to make it so easy to obtain a concealed carry without vetting or training and why? i talked to parents here and not all of them certainly, but some of the famil families afgted by tragedy run the gamut to this is a bad idea to a horrendous idea. there's been so much progress, chris. that's the con fliks here because florida did pass a number of measures, whether it be school safety and red flag laws which have been used some nine times in the last five years, to also raising the purchase age of a firearm to 21. this came out of parkland. there was real progress, but these families have experienced so much pain and they are demanding more. i spoke to the father of scott beagle who was in his classroom and ushered 31 students to safety. he has dedicated his life to helping kids. he was a camp counselor as well. she set up a memorial fund to

send kids to camp who are at risk. that's one way parents trying to help others. listen to the pain in her voice. and tony who lost his daughter, gina. listen to the agony. >> i can't even pull up the ability of denial right now that it has been five years. >> sadly, my family knows the pain, the constant pain and tragedy of losing our beautiful daughter, gina. the other families from parkland that had their families taken from them know that pain. so we've tried to find a way to bring people together as we've passed over six laws in florida. we're continuing on with that process. >> reporter: of course, they also were stakeholders in the federal legislation that passed in the aftermath of uvalde. so there has been some movement here. and in terms of where he was just standing, it's on a natural

preserve of 150 acres that one day is going to be a memorial to celebrate their lives. that should be in place in the next several years. in the meantime, ceremony expected later today. you see the beautiful portraits over my shoulder. people are just coming and dropping off flowers. at 5:30 today, we're going to hear from faith leaders. not politicians, not policy leaders. it's not about that. it's about the victims today, chris. >> as it should be. thank you so much for that, sam. now to south carolina because we're waiting to see if a critical witness in the double murder trial of alex murdaugh is going to take the stand today and we have catie beck there in south carolina for us. tell us why this witness is considered to be so important. >> reporter: hey, chris. yeah, this is a complicated witness. he's referred to as fast eddie or cousin eddie. he actually is a second cousin to alex murdaugh who murdaugh said he hired to actually commit

an assisted suicide on the side of a road. this would have been a few months after his wife, maggie, and son, paul, were found murdered. the suicide obviously did not work out. murdaugh's still alive, but he, the facts around this exchange on the side of road, what exactly happened? what was eddie paid to do? what did murdaugh say to him in those moments? that is what the prosecution wants the jury to hear. there's some distinction between the two versions of events. the fact he would hire someone to assist him in suicide, which murdaugh says because his son, buster, could get a $10 million insurance policy, those facts nay paint a picture of someone who was in desperate circumstances and making rash decisions. the one thing that's critical and weighs on both sides here though is that eddie took a

polygraph test about his alibi on the night of the murders of maggie and paul murdaugh and he failed that test. so if prosecutors do put him on the stand, that evidence comes in, which plants another seed with the jury. so at this point, it is up in the air whether he will in fact testify. we know that he is being strongly considered. the prosecution has said they plan to wrap up their case midweek, which would be tomorrow. it looks like it's probably going to extend beyond that. the defense is very eager to begin their side of this story and start presenting their witnesses, but whether or note this alleged sort of assisted hit man, if you will, will take the stand, is yet to be seen. >> catie beck, thank you so much. i know you'll keep us posted on that. not obl only did this morning's inflation report show every day essentials are more expensive for american, but stocks are now sliding. the dow jones industrial average in the red by 159 points at this

second. after new data from the labor department showed that inflation was up 6.4% from a year ago. but how much you're feeling inflation depends on your zip code. "the wall street journal" reporting prices are up most in the mountain west region. also around tampa st. pete, interestingly. inflation is cooler in new england. up next, the man accused of assaulting officer fanone during the january 6th insurrection in court. how he could play into any potential case against donald trump. plus, he may be out of public service, but that's not stopping house republicans from making dr. fauci the latest investigative center piece of their house majority. and former south carolina governor nikki hailey officially jumping into the 2024 presidential race, which spurred this question for another republican with some buzz. >> nikki hailey announced her presidential run today. do you plan on following suit?

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this race? >> that's right. this is a big announcement and widely anticipated one. feinstein says she will not run in 2024. she will serve out the rest of this term then step down. this opens a seat in california, which is a business prize for democrats. it's been a widely anticipated announcement because of her age. she is 89 years old now. if she were hypothetically to have served another term, she would be 97 by the end of that and looking at that fact, several of her colleagues have already jumped in this race. that includes katie porter, adam schiff who represents a district in the los angeles area around pasadena. congresswoman barbara lee, who represents the oakland and berkeley up north in the san francisco bay area. is expected to jump in the race as well. this could be a very competitive primary and remember in california, there's a unique top two system where you don't have

to be necessarily one person from each other. the top two vote getters in this primary advance to the general election. unclear who those two will be, but it is a safe democratic seat. biggest question here is which democrat is going to win that. now back to feinstein. she was first elected in 1992, which was dubbed at the time, the year of the woman. being a woman senator at the time was seen as a novelty. in her statement, she touted the fact she helped pass the 1994 assault weapons ban. that issue is uniquely personal to her. helped california through droughts and wildfires and she says she will continue to use her seniority on the appropriations committee to deliver funds to california for the rest of her term. >> and you have nancy pelosi who knows a little by about california politics and who knows a few people, coming out to endorse schiff. this is going to be a wild one. thank you so much. house republicans meantime, are now officially making dr. fauci the latest face of the

opposition, demanding he provide documents and appear for testimony. fauci has endured three years of attacks from republicans. had the makes of a manipulated virus but may have chosen to cover it up. fauci says he will show up and as we've seen, he doesn't shy away from a fight. >> did you talk with any of those -- >> you keep the -- >> did you? >> the truth, it is stunning how you do -- >> did you talk to any of the scientists privately? >> not only are you distorting it, you're completely turning it around. you keep coming back to personal attacks on me that have absolutely no relevance to reality. >> nbc's ryan nobles is on capitol hill for us. so ryan, what specifically are house republicans seeking from dr. fauci and do we have any

idea when they might hold this hearing? >> so, first of all, this is an interview that was likely to be scheduled behind closed doors. a transcribed interview that the select committee on the pandemic is asking fauci to appear before. the overall goal from house republicans is to try and determine the origins of the coronavirus pandemic. as you alluded to there, they believe that members of the biden administration and even the trump administration before that, that were tasked with reigning in the coronavirus pandemic, went to great lengths to cover up the fact that the chinese government may have been responsible for the coronavirus pandemic. there's no specific evidence yet that can definitively make a statement as bold as that, but what they want is to press fauci on what he knew and when he knew it and if he played any role in a potential cover up. again, no direct evidence of that, but that's part of why

they want to get him in a room and answer those questions. as you point out, chris, in the past, fauci has been willing to battle with members of congress in an open setting and defend his record, the decisions he made as the director. the lead member of the federal government tasked with rainging in the coronavirus. this may be a different situation if they've got him behind closed doors. they could videotape the deposition to be used later, but it may be a lot different than what we've experienced so far with his testimony up to this point. >> thank you so much for that. reeducation camps for young ukrainians in russia. the new report finding that thousands of children who are already there right now. plus, the message from our military leaders overseas in brussels as we approach one year of war in ukraine and a new phase of combat. you're watching chris jansing reports only on msnbc. ombat. you're watching chris jansing reports only on msnbc. rinkled m?

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just moments ago, president biden making his first public remarks on the deadly mass shooting attack at michigan state university. >> last night, i spoke with governor whitmer and the fbi and

additional federal law enforcement are on the ground assisting the state and local folks. three lives have been lost. five seriously injured. it's a family's worst nightmare. it's happening far too often in this country. far too often. while we gather more information, there's one thing we know to be true. we have to do something to stop gun violence ripping apart our communities. ripping apart -- >> that nightmare did come true for michigan's attorney general whose two sons attend msu. they are safe, but she vented her frustration on our show last hour. >> the top law enforcement official in the state and i can't even prevent a tranl di like this from happening. we have to start loving our kids more than we love our guns. >> she acknowledges the near term change to gun laws to

protect against these shootings is likely to come at the state level, but since it's so easy to cross state lines, she says change will also require federal legislation so we don't have to see more pictures like this. also, a harrowing new report that the kremlin is attempting to reeducation thousands of ukrainian children inside of russia. researchers in a new report identify a complex network of reeducation camps. finding at least 6,000 kids living in 43 camps across the russian federation part of an effort to make the children more pro russian, the report says. right now in brussels, the defense secretary and mark milley are rallying aid. courtney joins us from brussels, but we want to start with michael mcfaul.

this new report is deeply disturbing. they're calling it a quote large scale systemic network of reeducation camps. what should the international response be here and what do you make of this? >> well, first, it's an incredible report. lots of reporting there that must have been very difficult to obtain. so i applaud them. i hope we'll see more of this kind of reporting. but second, in the conclusion, they talk about the war crimes. they talk very clearly about violations of geneva conventions and the international community needs to take this more seriously. there are many things going on. military assistance, sanctions, but we need to prepare for life after this war and part of that is making putin be held accountable for the crimes he's committing now. >> these kids ripped apart from their families and now they're sent to reeducation camps. we mentioned the push from the biden administration. we're showing a map of all the

places where folks are from austin to harris to blinken and it had president himself going to poland. what's the message to allies? what does the administration want to hear from them in terms of commitment to ukraine? >> so, they want to, an assurance na allies will continue to support ukraine with weapons and equipment. what we saw here today when more than 50 allies came together to talk about what ukraine needs in the near and long-term, and how to get that to them. especially for this coming offensive the russians are preparing for. in addition to that, every time these meetings come, they have these meetings, it's about making sure that there is a long-term commitment to ukraine and that the motivation to continue to support ukraine in the fight against russia has not diminished. i've spoken with a number of officials here today in preparing for this and there's a sense that the u.s. will continue this, as we've heard from president biden, as long as

ukraine needs them to. but there's a real recognition that the international community needs to come together, needs to bring more for ukraine at a time when it's difficult to keep stockpiles how. so what they're calling for here today are the four as. air defenses for ukraine. more ammunition. more artillery, including ammunition for artillery. and armor. that's tanks. what's what the officials say ukraine needs right now. some are on their way like these leopard tanks. some could be in ukraine in a matter of week, but they'll need a constant supply of these assets if they're going to take on this russian offensive. >> let's talk about what is happening on the ground, ambassador. there's new reporting from "the washington post" detailing an historic exodus from russia. at least 500,000 russians have left the country since the invasion a year ago according to the post. maybe as high as a million. that's a wave of immigration not seen since the collapse of the

soviet union and it's coming as a lot of them are men who don't want to go fight. they're seeing the extraordinary numbers of russians dying on the battlefield. what does this combination mean for putin? >> i think this latest reporting underscoring the fact that we don't know the facts about this war. how can we read in one breath that 80%, 70% of the country support putin and yet this is the largest exodus out of the country since the boll revolution? it's important for us to understand there's no incentive for russians to express their actual views. no rational reason to do that. but i think it underscores that putin has real problems here. he wants to launch a major new offensive. he needs hundreds of thousands

of more soldiers to do that. he hasn't won a single victory in months. he's got a lot of problems and that's why we should be pushing more weapons, better weapon, longer range weapons now to try to help the ukrainians achieve victory now and now let this drag on for years and years. >> thank you both very much. next, she's former president trump's first official 2024 opponent. >> it's time for a new generation of leadership. >> are folks in her home state of south carolina willing to back her over her old boss? who she is and what she brings to the table. e brings to the table (woman 1) i just switched to verizon business unlimited. it's just right for my little business. unlimited premium data. unlimited hotspot data. (woman 2) you know it's from the most reliable 5g network in america? (vo) when it comes to your business, not all bars are created equal. so switch to verizon business unlimited today. ♪♪

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felony counts including inflicting bodily injury on an officer while using the dangerous weapon. while acknowledging his role in the attack, daniel rodriguez has pinned the blame squarely on donald trump, telling fbi agents quote, trump called us to d.c. if he's the commander in chief and the leader of our country and he is calling for help, i thought he was calling for help. i thought i was doing the right thing. but he later sobbed while admitting his mistake. >> i'm so sorry. i didn't know that we were doing the wrong thing. i thought we were doing [ bleep ] thing. i thought we were doing a thing -- i'm so stupid. i thought i was going to be awesome. i thought i was a good guy. >> joining me here onset, charles coleman, former brooklyn prosecutor and nbc legal analyst. his story is a vivid reminder of what the police faced that day. the injuries they sustained. some lost their lives. but is it also potential

evidence in a criminal case? >> it is. i think that when you're talking about how we got here, particularly in his case. he was part of a text group that basically talked about how they were going to arm themselves. how they were going to prepare themselves to go to d.c. with tasers, with ammunition, with body armor. they knew what they were going there for. and so while trump is not a sympathetic scapegoat, in this case when you hear him talk and sob and talk about how he thought it was going to be awesome and he thought he was goeng to be a good guy, that's hard to believe when it will be used against him because he knew what he was going there to do. whether he can try to pin this on i did it because donald trump told me to remains to be seen, but what we heard during that interview would absolutely confirm he knew who he was going to d.c. to do and he was intentional to do it. >> let's talk about what we learned today with mike pence because he plans to resist a

subpoena in the january 6th investigation. what could that mean for the special counsel's investigation if he tries to invoke executive privilege? >> not very much, chris. i think what we're talking about is delay and not deny. what i mean is that ultimately, this is going to find himself in front of a federal judge in district court in the district of columbia and as far as executive privilege is concerned, he's no longer the vice president. president trump is no longer the president. also remember, he wrote a lot of the details that are being asked about at least some of them that are related to, in his book. you don't get to write about these things in a book then claim they're privileged and you can't talk about them. it will be a delay tactic which will affect the january 6th committee, but won't have the same effect with respect to congress. if i'm jack smith, a special prosecutor in this case, i'm not particularly concerned about ultimately getting the information i want, although it may be messing with my desired

timeline about how to affect a prosecution. >> thank you. good to see you. now that donald trump has officially does have his first republican challenger in the 2024 race for president, the question is who is she? nikki haley. a former member of his administration, has been a force in south carolina politics. she's also a woman of firsts. serving six years in the state's legislature, the first female governor of south carolina, the second indian american governor of any state. she spent two years at u.n. ambassador and now hopes to be the first female president of the united states. i'm joined now by nbc's ali vitali in charleston, south carolina. you literally wrote the book on women and the presidency. looking at nikki haley's background, what are kind of her generally acknowledged strengths and weaknesses in a fight against donald trump? >> yeah, this really does feel like a moment where the book has legs going forward because we

are once again now seeing a field of candidates where women will at least one of them, be running in this field. and the fact that nikki haley is trump's first official challenger gives her the benefit of being able to define herself at an early point, but certainly trump is already out there trying to define her for the base that he has such command over saying that she's someone, and this is true, who said initially that she wouldn't run in this primary if trump himself were running but now putting out a video today, chris, that not only touts her south carolina roots, the fact she's a first generation american, born to indian parents, but also the fact she's not someone who weather's bullies. in one part of her speech, she talks about the work she's tone on the world stage and that when you kick back in heels, it hurts even more. so a little bit of a nod to her

gender. if she were to win this nomination and ultimately the presidency, she would be historic as america's first female president. we are so far from that at this point for official announcement in person is expected to come tomorrow, but certainly this video kicking things off at least digitally today. >> former president trump's response today is, we knew he would respond, right? even though she said i would never run against my president, he was a great president, my best president in my lifetime, i fold her she should follow her hertrich and do what she wants to do. i wish her good luck. how does she succeed when it comes to the challenge that really many republican candidates will face, not alienated trump loyalists, right? the very most loyal base. but convincing them as she said in her video, the time for change has come. >> i think every campaign has their own strategy with how they're going to deal with trump. for someone like desantis, the calculus is a little different

than someone like nikki haley who you see in in video, the idea of generational change. turning to new leadership that hasn't been in washington. most of the senators, although there's one from south carolina who's thinking about it, but most of the challengers to trump are going to come from outside of washington. so i imagine this is a line we're going to hear from many of them. the idea that this is not just generational change, but a way to get leadership that is executive, but not from the d.c. establishment. that's something that should work well, but it also helps that nikki haley has deep political roots in south carolina. she was popular dourg her time in office. although it is just one of those early states, it is such an important one, chris. i remember being here in 2016 when donald trump was able to just sweep through south carolina. it was the complete and total end of jeb bush at that point in the primary.

haley wasn't endorsing trump at the time, but south carolina was a lynch pin for trump. a place he still has a lot of endorsers in, but clearly, she's going to try to chip away at that as a daughter of south carolina. >> always great to have you on the program. thanks, ali. today, two incredible women in music are showing how to get it done. forbes naming taylor swift the highest paid female entertainer in 2022. earned a cool $92 million. the only woman on the top ten list for forbes and while the super bowl was the third most watched program of all time, according to fox sports, rihanna's halftime show had even more viewers than the game itself. more than 118 million people tuned in to her big return to the stage according to early data from nielsen. next, 200 hours in turkey. even after all that time, people are still being pulled from the

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a new warning. millions of children in syria and turkey are in need of support as rescue and recovery operations enter the second week. right now, the death toll from the earthquake stands at over 39,000, but somehow, miracle rescues are still happening. this was just a short while ago. two more survivors pulled from the ruins in turkey after being buried live for eight days. in syria, more aid may arrive soon. syrian president al assad approving plans to open two new border crossings. and makeshift tent cities like this one are popping up in both turkey and syria, often housing thousands of displaced children. joining us now from turkey is matt bradley. matt, what is the focus of international aid and attention in turkey right now? >> reporter: yeah, the new focus

is going to be the survivors. rather than rescuing those who are thought to possibly be surviving and this is as we have sort of a light decision. one that hasn't been announced moving away from trying necessarily to find people who are still surviving under rubble as that becomes almost impossibly unlikely. you mentioned some of those miracles. still, eight days after that earthquake. that's something that really is a miracle in the sense that it is becoming increasingly rare to see these examples of endurance and fortitude. really, rescue workers no longer have the same kind of hope they did just a couple of days ago. if you look behind me, this used to be a huge pile of debris. there used to be rescue workers as of day or two ago combing it, telling everybody around here to quiet down as they tried to listen to voices underneath the rubble. now this is really just a demolition site. they've cleared it.

you can see that everywhere in southern turkey. you mentioned those children in some of the camps, chris. i was just at one of those camps and spoke to a bunch of parents and a bunch of their kids and they described how difficult it was to live there. the cold at night, which i think you can see in the breath coming out of my mouth. we spoke with medical workers, how difficult it is to provide medicine. a real problem as unsavory as it is to talk about, is bathrooms. they don't have enough bathrooms. this is something the medical community here and in syria, is real worry is disen tear and infection. some of the longer term effects are psychological. we've seen that with children who have experienced this kind of trauma. this is something that will last far longer than an infection and can't be rebuilt like a home or

a building. >> thank you so much, matt bradley, who has been tireless in his reporting. among the tireless aid workers, americans are on the ground in turkey and syria. our next guest says the local population has been inspiring with their resiliency, offering food and water to the rescuers. joining me now, john morrison, a search and rescue team member from virginia. it's good of you to be with us. what are your biggest challenges? >> we're eight and a half days from when the earthquake initially struck. our timeline, the survivability of victims is certainly more difficult at this point. we're still in rescue operations until the turkish government decides. we're still going to proceed as if we are in rescue mode and we have rescuers out in rubble piles looking for live victims. >> i mean, it has to be in terms of emotion, i know it's

physically trying, but emotionally. you know that after 72 hours, the chance of survival goes down. now we're at what, 200 hours. then you see what we just showed, two more people being pulled alive from the rubble. how do you deal with the emotional toll this takes on you? >> we focus on the task at hand right now. we are trained to do this. so we will continue with the emotional aspects. we have programs for the behavioral and mental health part, providers and first responders. but for right now, we're doing what we were trained to do and focusing on that task. >> you talk about training. you've been to other scenes of disasters. as you look around, as you've seen what you've seen, experienced what you've experienced, help us to have a sense because it's one thing to look at these pictures on television. it's another thing to be there. >> yeah, it's very widespread

and disasters i've responded to has been one big city whether it be port-au-prince in haiti or ni nepal. it really is breathtaking and stunning to see this level of destruction over such a wide area. it's certainly something that humbles you to the power of earthquakes. >> it is powerful and it's also a reality that again, you're waiting for the turkish government, but in the next days or several days or next week, they're going to say that there's no more hope of rescuing anyone. we know again as i said, the best possibility is in the first 72 hours, but is there a window as you see it as well for international aid getting into that impacted region for the people who are suffering, having survived, getting the help they need? >> yeah, that's something usaid

will focus on and have been focusing on. while our team from virginia and another from los angeles county california is focusing on urban search and rescue, usaid has a rescue program for turkey and syria to provide that aid and to make sure this is a long-term recovery. when they get to that stage. >> is there a moment so far that you will remember? a person that you saw? an event that you experienced that you'll remember? >> yeah. on one rescue site i was at, it's very humbling. we bring all the equipment we need because we don't want to be a burden on the community we're coming to help. so all of our shelter, food, water, fuel, logistic, it all comes with us. but when local residents were coming up to us on the scene we're working and offering us food and water, it's really humbling. it sort of shows the human spirit and resiliency of the population here and it's heartwarming to know we're

helping bring a little hope to the turkish people from the americans. >> john morrison, thank you and your colleagues for the work you do. remarkable work, day after day. location after location. you take care out there. >> thank you very much. >> that's going to do it for us this hour. make sure to join us every weekday 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. here on msnbc. katy tur will pick up our report right after this. l peick up ourr right after this hey, man. nice pace! clearly, you're a safe driver. you could save hundreds for safe driving with liberty mutual. they customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need! [sfx: limu squawks] whoo! we gotta go again. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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