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what the voters want? at the same time, it's a legal challenge, not a political one, that may pose the biggest danger to the only other declared candidate, donald trump. what's the special counsel's latest request from a judge say about the possibility that trump faces criminal charges? and we're watching the white house where the president could face questions from reporters just a few minutes from now. under pressure to talk publicly about the shootdowns in the sky. new nbc reporting about the internal debate over whether he should answer those questions. so a lot going on on this wednesday, but we start with

republicans facing critical questions about the future of their party as newly announced presidential candidate nikki haley hits the campaign trail for the first time, officially giving the gop something they haven't had in nearly seven years. an alternative to donald trump. >> we're ready, ready to move past the stale ideas and faded names of the past, and we are more than ready for a new generation to lead us into the future. >> but look at the mountain she's got to climb to win the nomination. according to a new reuter's poll she places a distant fourth among potential candidates, barely ahead of people like liz cheney and mike pompeo. i want to bring in nbc capitol hill correspondent ali vitali who is in charleston where nikki haley just spoke. nick canard is national politics reporter for "associated press," he's on the phone with us, and charlie sykes is editor at large

of the bulwark and an msnbc contributor. charlie, immaterial to read part of an article in the bulwark, here's what it says. quote, on paper nikki haley should be a top tier contender in the 2024 republican primary. she's a successful former governor from an important early primary state. she has an impressive personal back story, solid foreign policy chops and great candidate skills too. this used to be an extremely attractive package for gop primary voters. used to be. but not anymore. why not, charlie? >> well, that's my colleague sarah longlaw, she's absolutely right. if you go back to 2013 when the republican party was trying to figure out how it was going to change its image, she would have been the answer. the problem is that the republican party has changed. the base has changed. you can't just erase seven years of the trump legacy and the way in which this party has been

transformed. so the appeal she's making does look very, very good in paper, but she's appealing to a party that just no longer exists. and i'm a little bit puzzled to understand exactly what lane she thinks that she's going to be in. she is -- she's alienated the hardcore trump supporters by running, and yet, she has flip-flopped so many times on donald trump that she's certainly not an anti-trump candidate. i'm just not sure what her lane is right now, and so as of today, this is still a party that is waiting on ron desantis and sort of, you know, the rest of the field. >> well, during her speech today, nikki haley repeatedly went back to the idea obviously of trump, of moving on from the past. i want to play a little more of what she said. >> today our enemies think that the american era has passed. they're wrong.

america is not past our prime, it's just that our politicians are past theirs. we won't win the fight for the 21st century if we keep trusting politicians from the 20th century. >> look, we know anecdotally lot thes of republicans say they want to move on from trump, and the ap did a poll a couple of weeks ago asking people who they wanted to lead the party. the majority didn't pick trump or desantis. having said that, nikki haley ended up ties with people like ben shapiro. when you look at the poll, do you see a real desire for generational change, that change that nikki haley and some of the others we see in these pictures say is needed in the republican party? >> reporter: i think that you can have an appetite for generational or just alternative leadership among republican voters. i've heard that anecdotally myself as i have been traveling

the country talking with republicans who either still like trump but are concerned about the indictments that could come down on him or just his age, other aspects of that, but then there's also people who say that it's time to just turn the page from trumpism. the open question, though, is -- and i think that charlie is right, we don't really know what the lanes are going to be here if and beyond anti-trump and in the trump vein. i watched the way that she's making this generational change argument, and it's likely one we're going to hear from other presidential contenders as well because one of the things that you can do is go at donald trump in veiled terms, just like haley did here. she did call out people like joe biden and kamala harris. she clearly made age a central focus talking about stale policies and stale politicians in the past. but in going after biden in that way, she is also without having to name trump talking about

trump. just because he's not as old as biden, he is still into his 70s, and that is an argument that you can make against trump without actually being against trump. so that's clearly where she's starting. but i think that, again, it's right to point out she has been on both sides of donald trump several times, even just as a baseline of saying she wouldn't run for president in 2024 if he were running for president. now we see them head to head, although that field's going to grow. >> so meg, the same time the ap shows 34% of republicans frankly don't know who they want leading the party, i'm curious what you heard in her speech today, maybe in the video yesterday with some of the folks you know from her circle. how does she plan to break through? >> reporter: i think of that generational change argument that ali was just talking about is a big message which governor haley, ambassador haley, whichever title you use for her is really making something at the forefront of this campaign. it's something we also heard

when she was governor of south carolina. let's remember, when she was first elected in 2010 she was the youngest governor in the country at the time at 38. so she's used to being kind of an argument of a new fresh face, a new generation of leadership. she said it when she was governor, and that's certainly something that she's going for in this presidential campaign. but i talked to a lot of people here. i know that all the reporters did some within south carolina, but also as far as michigan, north carolina, people who drove far distances to come here to see nikki haley, so it wasn't just a south carolina audience for this launch. >> you know, charlie, you've been around polling for a very long time, and sometimes what people say and that translates could be very different things. "politico" and morning consult did a poll asking republicans what their priorities were, conservative was number one, followed by someone under the age of 70, and then decades of political experience.

they say that, and when you look at that field, there are plenty of people who kind of fit into that mold, but it's translating it, right, where things start to get tricky. >> well, that's right, and it's also, you know, a big transition to go from, you know, thinking about being a candidate to being a candidate, and look, these lines sound very good, and there's definitely going to be an appetite for turning the page, but remember how that played out in 2020. that was the line from eric swalwell who tried that on joe biden, and it only goes so far, particularly when you get into the real kind of hand to hand combat that you're going to have in this primary. what we don't know is how is nikki haley going to handle donald trump? donald trump is already coming at her. how will she maneuver all of that? it is one thing to issue these veiled criticisms, and by the way, down in mar-a-lago he heard all of them. can you really take on donald

trump with a veiled campaign? are you going to be able to unseat him without making a case why he should not be renominated, why he should not return to the oval office? it's not clear at this point that nikki haley is prepared to take that second step, that third step, that fourth step, and whether or not she's going to be able to handle this particular campaign. is it not clear that any of the republican potential candidates are prepared to go after donald trump and make the case why donald trump needs to be retired. >> yeah, how do you respond to donald trump, ali, who you know is going to go after anybody who he perceives as a real threat? you wrote a whole book about women trying to get to the white house. here you have the first person to challenge trump being a woman. at the same time, "politico" wrote something very interesting. trump built his base on attacking women, particularly women of color. researchers found that in the 2016 election hostile sexism was a primary predictor of support for trump second only to party

affiliation. i mean, i guess if he goes scorched earth against nikki haley, who wins that battle? >> reporter: i mean, i guess we'll have to see, but the rule of thumb in 2016, the last time we saw a massive primary field against donald trump and you and i were on the campaign trail covering it, every time someone tried to go toe to toe with him, down in the dirt with him, they would end up with mud on their face as well, and no one does that better than donald trump, partly because there is no floor. there is nothing he's not willing to say. we've seen him take people on on policies sort of, but we've mostly seen them be taken on through the lens of race and gender. the first thing that i think of is the way he talked about carly fiorina and that face, making sexist comments there. that is one of the things that the haley campaign is probably prepared for. it's no secret what kind of candidate they're going up against. if i think about this through the lens of gender and you know, of course i was doing that

today, because she's the first and only republican woman to get into this field, the way that she dealt with gender was fascinating today because she had nods to it, but within her video yesterday talking about kicking back, but it hurts more in heels, she talked also today about how she does have a hard road ahead, but it will require people to do things they've never done before including elect a woman to the white house. nevertheless, she said she's not about identity politics and doesn't believe in glass ceilings. that's a characteristically conservative way of dealing with gender politics. >> one of the things we've talked about a lot is there's a very different audience in the primaries than there is in the general. maybe the key question is going to be these kinds of issues we're talking about, for example, will it turn women off, suburban women off in the primaries if he goes scorched earth on nikki haley. you know, we know that it didn't work, obviously, for 2020. we know it didn't work with these moderate women or

independent women voters. is there any change that you're sensing when you talk to people on the ground that the change could go beyond that, the exhaustion with donald trump. meg. >> sorry, that's for me. yes, you know, i think there are a lot of folks who are interested in watching haley's campaign, potentially as the only woman in this race. certainly the first woman to get into this race on the republican side of things. and being a woman and embracing that is part of her persona, certainly who she is, has long been something that nikki haley has done. when she was governor, one of the big things she did when she came into the office is talk about the old boy system, the old boy network that she said has been at play at south carolina's state level of politics for quite some time and has been very unabashed in the way that she's talked about ways that she tried to knock that down, to breakthrough it. so for a candidate like nikki haley to not only be upfront and

embrace, obviously, her femininity for lack of a better word and also the fact that she is a woman in a largely male dominated field of politics, and perhaps the only one in this race, that is something that i think may resonate with voters who in addition to her generational argument are looking for something different in the white house. sure, there are a lot of quips and you kick back and it hurts worse in heels and that kind of thing. those are cute and make for nice campaign slogans and in videos, but in all honesty, i think it is something that nikki haley takes very seriously as a candidate, and we will see the more voters we talk to if it's something that pings with them on the level of maybe voting for her in this primary and elections beyond. >> thanks to all of you. we'll be talking more about this. haley's in. also tim scott could be close to announcing, but trump has long had a firm grip on south carolina republicans. so what is the strategy to beat him there? we've got that coming up in our next hour. meantime, investigators say they still have absolutely no idea why 43-year-old anthony

mcrae killed three students and critically injured five more on the campus of michigan state university. the disturbing fact we do know, several students on that campus had been through a mass shooting before including em ra riddle, who was a senior at oxford high when four classmates were killed there, and also two students who spoke with our maggie vespa, the first was in lockdown at a nearby school during the sandy hook murders. >> it's irreversible grief, and until this day newtown, sandy hook has an incredibly strong community, and i'll forever be thankful for that, but i just wish that another community would never have to feel that again. >> yeah, it happened before. i was part of the boston bombing. i was there right when the bomb went off. i can't tell you where to go from now. i can't tell you what to do. i have no answers, and i think that's how everyone's feeling right now. just no words. >> and in an emotionally charged

moment, a man lunged at the buffalo shooting gunman during his sentencing for the murder of ten people during a shooting rampage at a grocery store back in may. the man who rushed toward him shouted, quote, you don't know what we're going through as he was led away by court officers. that's according to reporting from "associated press." soon after he was sentenced to life in prison without parole for the hate-motivated killings of family members. here with me now is nbc's rehema ellis. you've been in buffalo. you've covered this for a very long time. obviously intense feelings inside that courtroom today. what's your big takeaway from today? >> pain, sadness, and anger to the point that it spilled over and you saw the man in the video, he's lunging at this now convicted and sentenced murderer, sentenced to life in prison without parole. people are trying to get a grip of what has happened to them, and we are nine months away from

when it happened, but it's as fresh as if it happened just moments ago, and you heard it in that courtroom as one woman's -- one person said in their impact statement, they were talking about this, and expressing anger towards this man who carried out these acts, and she said, we were targeted. you came all this way to buffalo, and you targeted us, and you targeted my loved one because of something that he could not change, and that is the color of his skin. listen to one more of what some other people said. >> i don't think of her like this, i have this picture to remind me. she was a beautiful girl. i think of her alone laying on the pavement for hours. >> my family and i are here this morning, and we wear red and black, red for the blood that he shed, for his family, and for

his community, and black because we are still grieving. >> we are here to tell you that you failed. we will continue to elevate and be everything that you are not, everything that you hate, and everything that you intended to destroy. >> it should be mentioned that payton gendron did apologize for people when he made a statement today, but it was -- it was little, it meant very little to the families who were there who were shouting in anger at him as he was making that statement. >> rehema ellis, thank you so much for coming here today but also for the coverage throughout this. we thank you. and i'll have reaction to the sentencing from a victim's family member. that's coming up in the next hour. but first, aggressive tacticings, the new legal strategy prosecutors are eyeing in the trump document probe. and mounting bipartisan pressure, will president biden address those unidentified objects shot down over north

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we're learning about an aggressive new legal strategy being used by the special counsel investigating donald trump's handling of classified documents. nbc news has learned that jack smith is asking a judge to compel former trump lawyer ere evan corcoran to answer more questions before a grand jury. he's invoking what's called the crime fraud exception. that allows prosecutors to get around attorney/client privilege when they believe legal advice has been used to further a crime. i'm joined now by nbc ease julia ainsley and by former deputy assistant attorney harry litman, professor of constitutional law at ucla. so julia, talk to us about what we're learning in this sealed filing and what you're hearing from our sources. >> well, chris, it's aggressive but it's not a surprising tactic are from jack smith, someone who has tried war criminals in the hague. we now know from sources and my colleague ken dilanian that zack smith is going to try to compel the testimony of evan corcoran. that was trump's lawyer right around the time that he believes he told a person on trump's legal team to go ahead and sign documents saying they had handed over all of those classified documents to the national

archives. as we later learned after that fbi search of mar-a-lago that was not the case, and they should not have signed those documents saying they handed every over. this is really at the center of what jack smith is looking for in the clatsds fied document piece of his probe. he's also looking at january 6th. this is at the center of the classified documents because it gets to whether or not someone could have committed a crime or a fraud based on the legal advice they were getting from lawyers. this is what allowed jack smith to get around attorney/client privilege protections and compel this testimony to understand if these people knowingly lied to the national archives about what information was still in mar-a-lago. >> harry, what's your take on this? how significant could it be that the special counsel is taking this step to get around attorney/client privilege? >> yeah, you know, so i think it's spot on to say this happens, but it's aggressive. it's just another indication, he's not cowed by who he's dealing with. and just to be clear, it's not

someone, he is seeking trump's testimony. what happened is corcoran drafted the statement and said to the junior attorney christina bobb sign right here. she added little caveat based on what i've been told. they had him there for an interview already, chris, and they said, so, did you talk to trump about that, attorney/client privilege. and they've now come to the court and said we have some evidence, it's not a huge finding they have to make, but some evidence that shows this was done as part of a fraud. in other words, it was a lie and part of a crime, what crime? obstruction of justice because this is what they used to say they complied with the subpoena under penalty of perjury and they hadn't. so the fact that she's seeking trump's testimony matters and just -- it just shows like, you know, he's taking no and is really responding as he would with any other defendant.

>> so help us understand where this goes now. who does it go to? how quickly might we get a decision, and then what recourse might team trump have? >> it goes to the chief judge of the d.c. district, beryl howell who's been great on this, and she kind of matters that her tenure's stopping soon. i think it will be brief. she'll just say is there some showing here. i think we'll hear from her pretty quickly, will trump team try to appeal? perhaps, but this is the sort of basic bread and butter kind of issue judges hear a lot. i think we'll know soon. if they approve it, what that will mean is corcoran has to come back and answer questions. we won't know what he says unless the defendants tell us, the government won't. that will be the upshot. we'll know if the ruling is he's got to come back and talk some more.

>> on an entirely different topic, i've just been handed a sheet with breaking news on it. you're on the byline, representative matt gaetz has been informed by officials at doj that they've concluded their investigation into possible sex trafficking crimes. what did they discover? >> yeah, that's right. as you know, chris, the justice department won't comment on anything they don't charge, but we've been told, my hill colleagues have talked to officials in gaetz' office that the republican congressman from florida has been told he will not be charged in that justice department investigation into possible sex trafficking. if you remember, this has been a months' long investigation by the justice department to figure out if gaetz was involved in what led to a 17-year-old girl being sex trafficked. there was a tax collector in florida who alleged that gaetz was part of that, but now we've been told the justice department has informed gaetz he is basically off the hook in terms of these charges and that he will not be charged. >> julia ainsley with that breaking news, and harry litman, thank you both very much. the agent who interviewed

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right now we are closely following the aleck murdaugh case, the witness on the stand right before they went into a break is the investigator who interviewed him shortly after his wife and son were killed. the prosecution is getting closer to resting its case against the once powerful attorney who was accused of killing both of them in 2021. nbc's catie beck is outside the courthouse for us, catie, what are we are learning from this testimony of the state law enforcement officer? >> reporter: yeah, good afternoon, chris, the importance of this witness is huge for prosecutors because it speaks directly to alex murdaugh's alibi and sort of pokes some holes in it. this is an interview that was done in august, and this interview is on tape, the jury watching that tape in the courtroom. this witness was part of the team that did the interview with alex murdaugh in august. they asked murdaugh to come in

and give him an update on the case. while he was there, they took the opportunity to ask him some questions. it certainly seems like from this video this might have been a turning point when investigators started to really narrow their focus in on him as a suspect. one of their lines of questioning that was very clear right at the beginning of the interview was to ask murdaugh for his time line. when did you eat dinner? did you go back down to the kennels after dinner? that is a pivotal question because there is a cell phone video that puts alex murdaugh in that kennel right near 9:00, which is very close to the tame time of death. we know from the autopsy report, we have a cell phone video with alex's voice in the background according to many witnesses who have taken stand. investigators say to alex in that interview, hey, we've talked to some folks that say your voice is in the background of this video. were you at the kennels, and his answer, again, was that he did not go down to the kennels after

dinner. he wasn't sure whose voice that could be. this is the investigator on the stand getting that evidence in, answering questions about the conversation. >> was the defendant clear about whether or not he had gone back down to the kennels after he went to the house? >> no, sir. >> was he clear that he had not gone back down there? >> yes, sir. >> that was clear, he hadn't gone down there? >> that was clear. >> reporter: now, on cross examination we expect the defense to try and score points with this video as well. there are multiple times during this interview where alex is helpful to investigators, offers to sign over evidence, give them access to cell phone records. was it a long and painful period between when they were shot and when they died. there is a lot of crying that goes on in this interview, and as i said, he seems willing to work with investigators and turn over evidence pretty freely as well. so we expect that on cross

examination the defense will be pointing some of those things out too. >> catie beck, thank you so much. we appreciate that update. british politics in tumult after the surprise resignation of the leader of scotland's governor. she said she is exhausted and it had become too polarizing. she is the country's first female leader and has been a fierce fighter in the movement to declare scottish independence from the uk. most recently, she faced growing criticism over attempts to make it easier for people to legally change genders. under strong bipartisan pressure, will president biden publicly address those mysterious objects in the sky. we'll find out very soon. we'll got it next. t it next. if you have a date, a day off, or a double shift. make your move and get out in front of eczema with steroid-free cibinqo. not an injection, cibinqo is a once-daily pill for adults

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about the economy, but the real question this hour, will he bow to bipartisan pressure and speak publicly about the story a lot of americans also want him to address, those unidentified objects shot down over north america. nbc news has new reporting that there is a debate among advisers about whether to have the president address the issue head on. we may know that answer when the president takes to a podium within the next hour. nbc's carol lee is at the white house, ryan nobles is on capitol hill, what's the latest noon debate within the white house? >> reporter: what we know is that white house officials are having discussions about when and whether the president should give some sort of remarks that look at more full heartedly what has happened here in the past couple of weeks, particularly those three objects that were shot down over last weekend, and we've heard from the president where he's made comments here and there where he's asked

questions, but he hasn't stepped in front of the american people and said here's what we know. here's why you don't need to be concerned or you do need to be concerned and really given an explanation for what's been going on. we know he's under pressure from members of congress including some democrats who say the american people deserve more of an explanation. the president ordered this review by various agenies across the government to look at how these objects that are in u.s. air space coexist with civilian aircraft, for instance. one of the things that we've heard from white house officials in the last 24 hours is that the intelligence community believes the leading hypothesis is these bloons that were shot down over last weekend, that those were benign and used for commercial purposes. one of the things that this review is supposed to do and the agenies are supposed to get back to the national security council by the end of the day, they're looking for what protocols to put into place so that we don't have these

instances where things being shot out of the sky and the government is not really providing explanations about exactly what's going on. so that could potentially, the white house has said that review could be finished by the end of this week. that's the goal that could provide an opportunity for the president to then come out and talk about this. one of the things that we're told, chris, is they don't want him to come out and speak on this if he doesn't have enough information. >> so ryan, senators, i understand are scheduled to get a classified briefing on u.s./china relations this afternoon. this is the second closed door briefing in a week. i recall that senator marco rubio came out last time and said, look, 95% of this could be said publicly. it's not classified. are you sensing any tamping down of the frustration with the white house? what are we looking for from this meeting? >> the answer to that is no, chris. many of these members are very frustrated about the lack of information and then the way that speculation is just filling that void, and they believe that

the american people would not be all that concerned if they heard what they heard behind these closed door briefings that the threat from these objects is really not all that serious but the administration just isn't being forthcoming enough. listen to what senator kevin cramer said about what he heard in those briefings. >> somebody should talk to the american people, even if it's to tell them we don't know very much, you know, and assure them that we're safe. that these objects don't seem to be threatening. >> and so perhaps they're going to be pressed on that a little bit more not only in this classified briefing at 3:00, but there's also a briefing with the faa administrator. that's a public hearing where this topic is expected to come up. simply put, members of congress, particularly on the senate side who have been inundated with information about this over the past couple of days still feel like they aren't getting a clear picture as to exactly what is going on here.

if they're going to continue to ask questions in part because they want to know what they can do to help to help create policies that will prevent this from being a problem in the future. >> my guess is their phones may be ringing as well. the office workers kept busy on capitol hill, ryan nobles, carol lee, thank you both very much. millions of dollars pouring in already in what's expected to be a fierce race to replace dianne feinstein in the senate. just how nasty could that race get? we've got an expert on california politics coming in to answer that question next. business unlimited. it's just right for my little business. unlimited premium data. unlimited hotspot data. (woman 2) you know it's from the most reliable 5g network in america? (vo) when it comes to your business, not all bars are created equal. so switch to verizon business unlimited today. if you still have symptoms of moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis or active psoriatic arthritis after a tnf blocker like humira or enbrel, rinvoq is different and may help. stand up to your symptoms with rinvoq. rinvoq is a once-daily pill

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out. >> okay. so it is what it is. i think the time has come. i have a whole other year. i have things that are underway. i expect to achieve them. i hope. and so we'll see. >> her retirement makes way for a generational shift with adam schiff, katie porter already in the race, barbara lee expected to announce soon, all of them members of congress. i want to bring in san francisco chronicle senior political writer joe garifoli, you've got your hands full the next year. >> i can't wait, this is gold. >> this is good stuff. i was reading an article about this in "vanity fair" have democratic strategists say it's going to be a bruising primary. each candidate expected to spend -- and this blew my mind -- 40 to $50 million, how bruising is this going to be? >> it's going to be bruising because each of these candidates are very -- they hold similar

positions on a lot of the issues. so it's going to come down to things like race and gender and age. that's what they're going to be talking about in a lot of cases, and in terms of the cost, in california, it costs $4 million a week to run a week of tv ads, and 2 million bucks in los angeles alone, so they are raising money constantly. >> all right, so you talked about race, so let me go there. california is an incredibly unique state, it's got a higher gdp than most countries. you've got a very diverse los angeles compared to a pretty rich, white san francisco. a growing population that i think now is 39% hispanic, by far the largest percentage in the country. how might color representation play into this race? >> yes, and san francisco is a little more diverse than that, but it is. this is california. it's the most diverse state in the country.

and adam schiff, you know, he's very well known nationally, but he might have an only in california challenge and that is he's a straight white guy. barbara lee is going to be challenged to raise money. she has $54,000 in the bank right now because she never really had to raise money. she wins by 80% of the vote in her district all the time, but she's going to make race a center piece of her campaign. there have only been two black women elected to the senate ever, and so one of the other concerns is age. barbara lee is 76 years old. she'll be 78 by the time she would be elected and she says, hey, look at this as a one-term race only. and we need -- and it's going to be centered on representation, and there have been very few black women elected to the senate. it's time to do that again, she'll say. >> yeah, there are a lot of folks who weren't happy when nancy pelosi came out very

early, a week and a half ago with her endorsement of schiff. what do you think the impact of that is and does it in some ways close the door at least a little bit on some of these other candidates? what about the criticism that here she is, a woman and she's trying to close the door, essentially, on two other women, including a black woman. >> pelosi hasn't answered that question yet. one of my colleagues that tried to ask her that yesterday in san francisco, and she said, well, now is not the time to talk about it. i would be very curious to hear what the speaker amer tus answers on that. it does help shift when you have one of the most powerful women in politics in the nation's history endorsing you, but yet that's one of the things it's going to come down to in this race. schiff is also seen as, and this may be strange to hear, as more of the centrist in this race. the other two have been members

of the progressive caucus. schiff has not. that's already being pointed at him, and also he has taken -- he's a prolific fundraiser and he's also raised money for other candidates and he's taken a lot of money from various corporations, big pharma and such that in california, you know, especially the democratic circles, you're going to get hit on that. so schiff may have a national profile, but his national profile may be at odds in california certainly in terms of the progress community. >> you've come early, i hope you come often. we're going to have a lot to talk about in this race. come back soon. thank you so much, we appreciate you taking the time. >> thank you. well, right now, build the stage, take a look, live pictures of the victory parade for super bowl champion kansas city chiefs in downtown kansas city. police say about half a million people are cheering on their team today. at least that's what they expected. look at the size of that crowd,

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chilling new video shared with nbc news shows the moment an american medic was killed in ukraine. people reed was a former u.s. marine, volunteering on the front line. he died in what appeared to be a guided russian missile strike as he and his team were tending to an injured woman. reed's wife believes her husband was intentionally targeted. >> huddled at the side of the a road, a group of medics tend to an injured ukrainian woman. if you look closely at the right side of the screen, you can see a missile appear, and then frame by chilling frame, it streaks towards its target, this white van. the impact exploding the van into a fire ball. the attack killing american

medic, pete reed, his final moments spend trying to save the injured woman's life. the 33-year-old was part of a group trying to evacuate civilians as russian forces closed in. nbc news has verified the footage, and experts tell us the missile appears to be a russian made coronet, a guided weapon designed to destroy tanks. the volunteer who took the video says he has no doubt who pulled the trigger. do you believe that your team was deliberately targeted by the russian? >> of course. all the evidence that we hold at the moment, it was targeted. they waited us until we get to complete stop. >> he says the russians attacked with a second missile less than a minute later and none of the medics were armed, making the attack a potential war crime. russia denies targeting civilians. reed, a former u.s. marine from

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