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good morning. 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. right now we're still waiting for key portions of the fulton county grand jury report set to be released to the public today,
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which will give us a new look at the investigation into former president trump's efforts to intervene in the 2020 election in georgia. in ohio, a frustrated community demands answers during a heated town hall about the train derailment that released toxic chemicals nearly two weeks ago. a live report ahead on what we can expect as the epa administrator heads there today. plus we have an nbc news exclusive report. president biden plans to deliver his most extensive public remarks yet about the unidentified object shot down over north american airspace as soon as today. we'll talk to senator bob menendez, chair of the foreign relations committee. what he wants to hear from the president. and as house speaker kevin mccarthy leads a republican delegation to the u.s. southern border in arizona, we'll talk to congressman raul grijalva about what needs to be done to address the humanitarian crisis there.
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we begin with the latest on the investigations into former president donald trump. today a judge in fulton county, georgia, will release parts of a report submitted by a special grand jury that investigated efforts by trump and his allies to overturn his 2020 election loss. the report's introduction and conclusion and a section in which grand jurors expressed concerns that some witnesses may have lied under oath will be made public. however, the names of the witnesses will not be included, along with the grand jury's recommendations on who should be prosecuted. the fulton county district attorney wanted the report to stay sealed until prosecutors decide who should be charged, but she didn't challenge the judge's decision. >> we think four future defendants to be treated fairly is not appropriate at this time to have this report released. at this time in the interest of justice and the rights of not
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the state but others, we are asking that the report not be released because you having seen that report, decisions are imminent. >> with us now to talk more about this, nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake, in west palm beach, florida. tia mitchell washington correspondent for "the atlantic journal constitution" and chuck rosenberg, former u.s. attorney and senior fbi official who is now an msnbc contributor. garrett, what are we hoping to learn from the sections of the report that will be released today? >> reporter: jose, i'm thinking about the sections as a movie trailer for a blockbuster that's going to come out later. i think we're going to get some of the big themes here. we're going to understand some of the way the grand jury approached their work. we might even learn who some of the 75 witnesses that they spoke to as part of this investigation were. but as you pointed out, we won't get their conclusion, at least not in the terms of who they recommended would be indicted in
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the future. you heard there from fani willis, the fulton county d.a., the decisions here are imminent. everything in her language in that court appearance suggested that those decisions could include indictments. she talked about protecting the rights of future defendants. so i think what we're going to see again from this section-by-section release today, intro, conclusion, one portion about the possibility of witnesses lying is the overarching structure of the investigation and perhaps the direction in which the grand jury wanted to go. now, for his part, donald trump has argued that there's nothing here. his attorneys have said they were never contacted about getting his testimony. he was never subpoenaed to come in to testify. mr. trump has been very active on social media arguing that the phone call we're all so familiar with from during that period after the election was a perfect phone call and not the kind of thing that should be the focus of a prosecutor. he says should be focusing on crime there in fulton county. we could learn whether that theory of the case has any merit from the sections of this
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report. but, jose, we're all just anxiously awaiting what we do get from the fulton county d.a.'s office, which could drop at any moment. >> chuck, what are you looking for from these sections of the report? >> well, i think garrett laid it out perfectly. i think the real interesting stuff won't be in what's being released today. we're going to get some direction. we may understand what it was that the special grand jury examined. but properly, jose, we don't get the details and we don't get the names. why is it improper to release that sort of information now? because final prosecutive decisions haven't been made. when they are made, they'll be made public and contained in an indictment. the prosecutors will speak in court. then people who are charged will have the opportunity to defend themselves. you don't want to spill into the public domain now at this point simply the allegations of the special grand jury because there
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are no final prosecutive decisions. so on one hand i think the judge is trying to balance interests, providing some transparency to the media and the public. on the other hand as the district attorney articulated, this is not the appropriate time for the details to come out. there will be a time and place for that. this ain't it yet. >> so, tia, the d.a. did say that decisions are imminent when it comes to charging people. is there any concept of a timeline for these decisions to be coming forward? >> yeah. when the d.a. first said imminent, a lot of us reporters thought any time now, and she later recently clarified to one of my ajc colleagues, she means in the legal sense of the term "imminent" that it's something they're working on and will happen at some point, which means it could be days or even weeks before d.a. fani willis is ready to announce who she would like to indict and under what
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charges. so we're kind of waiting right now. we know that willis wants to make sure that when she goes to the grand jury that she's thorough. she wants the cases to be tight because, of course, she doesn't plan to bring charges against anyone that she doesn't think she can ultimately convict. so we'll be waiting for a little bit of time. it looks like there's no clear timeline, but it doesn't seem like these indictments are coming any time soon to coincide with the release of this report today, for example. >> yeah, and, chuck, in this world and time and place of everything being unusual, how unusual is it that we're seeing these pieces come out at different times? >> well, it's unusual in the sense, jose, that georgia under state law has a procedure that we don't really have in the federal system. georgia prosecutors can request a special grand jury, which fani willis did, and the judge convened one, which was his
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right to do so under the law. that special grand jury writes a report, which we will see parts of soon, but can't indict anyone. in order to do that under georgia law, fani willis would need to go to a regular grand jury. she can use the report of the special grand jury to inform her prosecutive decisions. so the whole thing is unusual. this is not standard practice, as i mentioned, in federal court and it is not standard practice in many states in the union. this is how it works in georgia. and because they have some quirky special grand jury, which can write its report and inform the decision of the prosecutor, well, you know, the whole thing is unusual. >> and, chuck, there was that issue that just kind of -- that garrett was talking about at the beginning, that there's a possibility that witnesses who the grand jury said were not necessarily truthful in their testimony. what would happen to that
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aspect? >> well, first, it happens. i've spent many, many, many hours in front of federal grand juries with witnesses who weren't always truthful. so you would think logically, jose, that those people would be charged with perjury or some like crime and prosecuted. but, frankly, perjury charges are rare in federal court and in state court because proving that somebody intentionally lied is not as easy as you might think. so what will happen to those people? it's possible some will be charged with perjury. we saw some cases like that out of the mueller investigation where some individuals were charged with lying to the fbi, a charge akin to perjury, but it doesn't necessarily follow that because people lied in the grand jury that all of them will be prosecuted. some of them may still be witnesses. although the fact that they lied in the grand jury makes them less valuable as witnesses. >> tia, what are you looking
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forward to learning from the parts of the report that are not expected to be released today? >> well, you know, eventually we'll get the full report and it will be interesting to compare the recommendations that the special grand jury had as far as, again, who to charge, what to charge them with, with what district attorney fani willis ultimately decides to move forward with. there, for example, could be people or charges that she decides not to present to the regular grand jury and there's a chance that there are people or charges that she presents that were not in the report. also just being able to see what the special grand jury gleaned from some of these interviews and witnesses they subpoenaed that, again, may or may not come up in in whatever trials or legal proceedings that come as a result of what d.a. willis decides to do. so it will be just another data point. we've got a lot of data between
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the special grand jury but also, of course, there's the federal investigation, the house january 6th committee, and a lot of it has centered around trump and his allies' attempts to overturn the election result in georgia. so this will be more for us to comb through to see who did what and when in relation to that. >> garrett, how do we expect donald trump and his allies to respond to this release, which is coming out any second now? >> reporter: well, i suspect since today's release won't include any information about who may or may not be indicted, they'll probably try to use today as a victory speech. i mean their argument all along, trump's attorneys in particular but also donald trump himself have been that he did nothing wrong here and they haven't -- the grand jury hasn't expressed any interest in talking to him so, therefore, things must be fine. he's argued that the call itself with brad raffensperger
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suggested things must be fine. so i suspect what we will probably hear given there won't be a charging decision in this report is if he's not charged today, things must be fine. as chuck so ably laid out, we know that's not the case and the charging decisions could still come and still we targeted at mr. trump. but i think their posture has been nothing wrong here until something is at least alleged, but probably nothing wrong until anything is more credibly proven. >> garrett haake, tia mitchell and chuck rosenberg, i thank you for being with us this morning. still live, we are on the ground in michigan. we'll bring you the details of what we learned about the shooting this morning. and later, shes is the first woman to enter the 2024 presidential race. where does nikki haley stand on the issue of abortion rights? we'll play for you what she told our very own craig melvin this morning. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports."
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now to breaking news from georgia. moments ago a judge in fulton county, georgia, released parts of a report submitted by a special grand jury investigating trump and his allies to overturn his 2020 loss. a section in which grand jurors expressed concerns that some witnesses may have lied under oath are now made public. with us now to talk more about this, nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent, garrett haake in west palm beach. chuck rosenberg, a former u.s. attorney and senior fbi official who is now an msnbc contributor. so, garrett, it's just coming out. i've been looking at the copy that we're getting. what do we know about the sections that have been released just seconds ago? >> jose, the truth of the matter is there is not much here. i was able to read through the entire release in that commercial break.
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what we have here is largely the grand jury defining their purpose. describing a little bit of how they conducted the work in which they conducted. they said at any given time they always had a quorum of 16 jurors. they interviewed some 75 witnesses, most of them in person and under oath during the course of their work from june to december. and at the conclusion of their work, they voted yea, nay or abstain for indictments on individuals who were within the purview of what they were assigned to do, which is to look into whether there was any tampering in the election results in georgia in 2020. the report does not include their decisions, as we knew it wouldn't, on whether there would be indictments of specific individuals, although it does come to one conclusion that i found notable. the grand jurors say on page 4 of what is a nine-page release in total that in the course of their investigation, they found no evidence of fraud on any significant scale in georgia. that's the kind of thing that could provoke a reaction from
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the former president who lives in the building behind me, but there's not much else in this report that might. the section on witnesses possibly perjuring themself, they encourage the d.a. to seek appropriate remedy there, presumably in the form of an indictment. in their conclusion they essentially wrap up saying that they have made their votes, that they have acquiesced to their report being made public and their work is basically done. we're left with not much more information than we started the day with, jose, beyond the grand jury's conclusion that in the course of their investigation they found no fraud and they have voted on indictments, potentially plural. how they voted we'll be left to discover on another day. >> indeed. chuck, just looking through this, and garrett, you
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summarized it very, very well. there's not much in it. but chuck, we talked about this just a little while ago. this paragraph, a majority of grand jury believes that perjury may have been committed by one or more witnesses testifying before it. it recommends to the d.a. that it seek appropriate indications for such crimes where the evidence is compelling. what do you read there? >> well, they were concerned, i think, jose, that people came before the grand jury and under oath didn't tell the truth. that happens with some alarming frequency. like garrett, i read the report during the commercial break. unlike garrett, i couldn't possibly have summarized it as well as he did. i think it will be a little disappointing to some people who wanted more detail. i don't think it undermining the district attorney's investigation or puts at risk witnesses who appeared before the grand jury. no names are mentioned, no details of the investigation are
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mentioned, and from a prosecutor's standpoint that's very good news. it's not surprising to me that the judge would protect those details in the way he obviously did, but it's very good news. now, for those as you point out, jose, who may have perjured themselves, there's a chance, some chance, that they'll suffer the consequences of that. perjury charges aren't often brought. certainly not as often as people lie in the grand jury. but if you're somebody who went in front of the grand jury and under oath intentionally didn't tell you the truth, it may give you something to worry about. >> chuck, it's so interesting to hear from you with your experience. this lying in front of a grand jury is not that unusual. this is such an unusual case. it seems as though, you know, is there traditionally any teeth to recommendations from the grand jury that someone or some people
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may have lied to it? is there any normal traditional repercussions to that? >> theoretically, sure. so let me be a little bit more clear, jose, and i apologize. most people tell most of the truth most of the time. but if you're a prosecutor, like i was, who for many ideas put scores, hundreds of witnesses before the grand jury, you find a lot who lie. i don't mean to suggest it's everyone and i don't mean to suggest it's all the time, but it happens with some alarming frequency. that said, proving perjury is not as easy as you might imagine because you would have to show not that somebody was wrong on forgetful, but that they intentionally lied. you and i have spoken before about the difficulty of proving intentionality. so are there consequences? quite possibly. but, you know, if you're a prosecutor focusing on the most important part of your case, it's election fraud in georgia.
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there are ancillary cases perhaps to be made. there are cases at the periphery. i remember once my united states attorney telling me when i was briefing her on perjury charges that i thought ought to be filed not to worry about that and to focus on the main part of my case. i took her point. because she was my boss, i did what she told me to do. i have tremendous respect for her. she had been a prosecutor for a very long time and had also seen lots of perjury. if you're a prosecutor, that's what you see. so it's not surprising, there may be consequences, but i think the prosecutors in this case ought to focus in the main on the central portion of their investigation, election fraud. >> i want to bring in nbc's blayne alexander and back with us as well is tia mitchell, washington correspondent for "the atlanta journal constitution." blayne, we were just having this conversation about what exactlies is in this very pretty
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small report. one of the things -- and chuck was talking about this -- the grand jury says that it received evidence involving 75 witnesses during the course of its investigation and the overwhelming majority of which were done in person and under oath. so this aspect of it is the most detailed aspect of what's in this report as far as what the grand jury has decided. >> reporter: yeah, that's right. so we're talking about a very small portion of the report that was released today. we're talking about nine pages in all that just came out from the judge. you know, i think a couple of things that come out or stand out in these excerpts, one, of course that section where they believe that perjury may have been committed. one or more witnesses testifying before the special grand jury, they believe that perjury could have been committed. the grand jury recommended that the d.a. seek appropriate
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indictments for such crimes where the evidence is compelling. we are also, and i'm still going through this report very much myself here, but we're also understanding just kind of the basis for why this was set forward in the first place. remember, they are an investigative body. this was their entire purpose. the d.a. came forward and said you know what, there are a number of people she wanted to hear from that she didn't and were not going to comply without a subpoena. so that's why this special grand jury was impanelled in the first place. they kind of gave a summary of who they heard from. extensive testimony on the subject of alleged election fraud from poll workers, investigators, technical experts, state of georgia employees and officials still claiming that such fraud took place. we took a unanimous vote that no widespread fraud took place in the 2020 presidential election that could result in overturning the election. so again, this is certainly not anything that is tremendously earth shattering, but it does give a bit of a glimpse into the mindset of the special grand
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jurors, the sorts of conversations and deliberations that took place as they were meeting over the past many months. >> tia, where does the d.a. go next? what are the next steps? >> we have to remember the d.a. has this information. she's had this information for weeks. we are just now getting just a peek of what the special grand jury has reported to the district attorney. so the district attorney is going to keep doing what she's been doing for the last several weeks, which is deciding -- using the information in the report, again in the full report, deciding who she thinks should be indicted and what charges to bring against them. she's going to go before the regular grand jury at some point to see if that grand jury decides to move forward with charges against any of those individuals. that's what we are waiting on. that will be the big news. but again, this is just a peek inside what district attorney fani willis has been working
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with for a few weeks now. >> chuck, what are you thoughts on this? >> yeah, i just wanted to remind viewers, jose, of one important thing that's missing from the report, and that's the record of all of the witnesses who went in front of that special grand jury and under oath testified. so there's no mention of what they said in the report. there's no compendium of the evidence that they gave. but all of that evidence, to tia's point, is in the possession of the district attorney. she knows what everyone said. she knows what they said under oath. she can use that evidence to build her case. so i don't want people to think that the special grand jury simply met and wrote a nine-page heavily redacted report. rather, they met for months, they heard from scores of witnesses, and everything those people said in the grand jury under oath is evidence of the underlying case and can be used
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by the district attorney. so the report is somewhat interesting. it's not all that revelatory. but all that work that the special grand jury did is all available to the district attorney and will inform her prosecutive decision and inform if there are trials down the road what evidence jurors at those trials hear. >> blayne alexander, garrett haake, tia mitchell and chuck rosenberg, i thank you all for being with us. law enforcement released new details about monday's deadly shooting at michigan state university. here's some of what we learned about the weapons, plural, found with the shooter. >> we can confirm that the shooter had two handguns he was. those handguns are both 9 millimeter. he also had additional magazines and ammunition on his person. we have learned that they were
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purchased legally by the shooter, but they were not registered. >> and last night hundreds gathered on the msu campus to honor the three students killed in the attack and five other students that were injured. joining us now with more is nbc news correspondent jesse kirsch from east lansing. jesse, what more did we learn? >> reporter: jose, good morning. i want to add a note about what authorities say they found on the suspect in terms of weaponry. they say that he had dozens of rounds of ammunition. and we also now have confirmed from investigators that this suspect apparently had a note on him that contained a list of other locations he was threatening, among them businesses including a warehouse where he used to work, a church, and we already knew of a school district in new jersey. authorities don't know exactly what, if any, connection there
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is between the shooter and all these locations, but we know at least he was a part of the community at one point in new jersey that he threatened, according to police out there, and we know from police here in michigan that he apparently worked at the warehouse that he threatened. police also described a little bit more of their interaction with the suspect when they located him before he shot and killed himself, according to investigators. they say he did not say anything to them before pulling the trigger. all of this unfolding as we also learned that note that the suspect had on him apparently claimed that he was part of a group, including 20 others, that were going to be carrying out attacks. we mentioned there were multiple locations that he listed. we asked authorities how they went about disproving that and looking to make sure he was acting alone. here's part of what state police told us. >> through our interviews with the shooter's father, we brought that up to him and he had
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mentioned that his son does not have any friends. he pretty much sat in his room most of the time. he ate, went to the bathroom in there, so he pretty much never left his room and his father didn't believe that he had any friends, let alone 20 of them that would help him put this out. so we kind of determined that he was the lone shooter in this. >> reporter: at the end of this press conference, we also got an update on the people who remain hospitalized, the five students who remain hospitalized. earlier we had been told they were all in critical condition, though some were making improvement. we just learned that one student has been moved to stable condition so that is some hopeful news. but of course this community continues to grieve and we are told by university officials that berkey hall, where students are returning to pick up their belongings today, that will remain closed at least through the end of the semester. classes are set to resume here on monday, jose. >> jesse kirsch, i thank you so much. this morning nbc news has
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exclusively learned president biden plans to deliver his most extensive remarks yet on the aerial objects shot down by the u.s. military and new rules the u.s. is exploring to deal with other objects in the future. right now the president is undergoing a physical exam at walter reed, his second one since taking office. joining us now is nbc news senior white house correspondent kelly o'donnell. kelly, good morning to you. what can we expect from the president's remarks on these unidentified objects? >> reporter: well, part of what we are waiting for is really to hear the president in his own voice sort of taking us through the whole process. up until this point, jose, we've had a chance to ask the question a couple of questions of the president about his decision-making process early on when the chinese spy balloon was taken down, but we have not heard him really opine about what the policies should be about this kind of an incursion
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into u.s. airspace and what should happen going forward. there's been a lot of political pressure largely from republicans, but democrats too wanting the white house to be more transparent about the thinking behind this, the threats that may exist to the u.s. in terms of intelligence gathering and so forth and of course officials have been saying that there was some risk to civilian aircraft as one of the reasons why not only the chinese spy balloon was taken down but the three subsequent objects that now officials say may not have been owned by any other government but may have been part of a corporate or research program of some kind. but those details are yet to be fleshed out. hearing from the president would give us a sense of as commander in chief how he used military assets to fire missiles to bring these objects down and what should we expect going forward. so there are a lot of different questions on this. what does it mean with u.s./china relations, what threats, if any, continue to be
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in the skies above the united states, and what more does he know about this. clearly nations spy on each other, that is a known thing. we do understand that the u.s. has been aware of a chinese balloon program since at least many months ago. they had briefed congress last august about this. but what happened here and how does this change the game? we don't know the exact timing of when the president is expected to speak, but it's been building toward an opportunity for him to put things in place. part of that was they were expecting an interagency report where information from the faa, the department of defense, and the department of state and all of the different players who have been involved in this project could give the president information about what did they glean from what's been pulled from the ocean floor, what has been going on in terms of the recovery efforts, and what they're learning about these spy capabilities and what they may know going forward.
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so we've already heard the secretary of defense in an interview with our colleague, courtney kube, talking about this and some of the tension with china and now we wait to hear from the president. jose. >> kelly, what do we know about the president's physical today? >> well, that is ongoing. this is something that happens on a yearly basis. and then we expect we will get a report from his physician, dr. kevin o'conner. obviously at age 80, the oldest sitting president, there are always questions about his fitness and wellness. we would expect to get a report about all the kind of basic elements of a physical to give us a sense of how the president is doing. since the last physical he had covid and a rebound case. we know that the white house physician has talked about a hoarseness in the president's voice at times. so we'll be looking to see if there have been any changes since the last official physical. jose. >> kelly o'donnell in washington, i thank you so much. joining us now is democratic senator bob menendez of new
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jersey. he is the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. senator, it is great to see you, i thank you for your time. i know that you've taken part in two classified briefings on china in recent days. what were your takeaways, senator? >> well, my takeaways in the first instance, i have no concern in terms of these objects, physical threat to the united states. and as we deduce more information and recover the parts of the other downed entities, we'll have a better, clearer picture. but it does speak volumes about that assuming they're all either research or corporate devices that were put into the atmosphere, there needs to be a way to both have them be identified. they have to have an ability to have an emitting device for which we can identify them, and
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also we have to control the airspace domain where there are civilian aircraft that might ultimately collide with these entities. so i think it's a little bit of a wild west and that has to be tamed. i think that's an opportunity for u.s. leadership not just over our airspace but internationally. as it relates to china, you know, it's our biggest geo strategic challenge and continues to be. it is clear despite what china wants to say that that balloon was clearly a surveillance balloon. whether they intended or didn't intend to have it cross over the united states, they're responsible for their actions. it's incredibly irresponsible not to answer the hotline phone when our head of the department of defense, secretary austin, is calling to make sure that we don't have any unintended consequences. >> what is going on there, senator? what do you attribute that to? >> the unwillingness of china to pick up the phone? >> yeah, yeah. >> listen, i think they very
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often play to a domestic audience as well and a global audience of, you know, this projection of power, so to speak, but ike at the end of the day, they understand that having a process for deconfliction is important, but they are looking -- they care very much about their image and right now with all of the consequences they have had not only with the balloon that crossed the united states but we've been able to identify others that are crossing over other countries and interfering with their sovereignty, that they have a global challenge right now. and so they're trying to look tough. but at the end of the day we need to be smart because we don't need a conflict that is unintended as a result of not picking up the phone and misinterpreting any actions of the united states or for that fact any other country. >> senator, turning to some
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other news, senator biden is looking to confirm his pick to lead the irs. you have the opportunity to question him during the hearing on wednesday. what were your takeaways? >> well, he seems to be a well qualified candidate. seems to understand the nature. one of the things that i drive, i led eight letters with colleagues is to get the irs to do the basics, to answer the phone, answer the mail, send out a refund in a timely manner. this is what the american people expect at a minimum. for too long if you're a taxpayer and calling the irs hotline to figure out an answer to a question, you wouldn't get an answer. so we are now up as a result of my efforts and others to where the irs is answering 90% of all of the calls. we want to continue that performance and make it even better. and we also want to make sure that we have an irs that can be responsive to the american taxpayer. and so that was the focus of the questions and i think the nominee answered them pretty well all in all.
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>> senator, before i let you go, i know there's going to be an open position at the federal reserve shortly. you've been so outspoken about the need for diversity at the fed. what are your thoughts on that? >> well, in the 109 plus years history of the federal reserve, we have never had a hispanic on the federal reserve. and why is it important? because this is the largest minority in the country. $2 trillion domestic marketplace impact. younger by a decade than the overall population. having the knowledge of the impacts of the federal reserve, whether it's rate hikes, monetary policy or their dual obligation for full employment, having that voice be there is incredibly important. we have other voices there, but we haven't had our voice. as a growing part of the marketplace and as a growing part of the american population, i think it's essential.
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there is no reason why the administration cannot put forward somebody who is qualified. i know several people who have, you know, the economist background, who have the financial service backgrounds, the requisite backgrounds. we're sending some of those names to the white house. i'm sure they could deduce others. they have to have the will to ultimately nominate somebody of hispanic descent to the federal reserve who is qualified to help us lead on monetary policy and employment policy. >> voices are so important everywhere, senator, including in the u.s. senate. a latino member of the senate representing new jersey, i thank you, senator, for being with us this morning. >> thank you, jose. it's also important on tv. >> thank you. appreciate that. more than a week after a deadly earthquake struck northern syria, the people feel as though they have been left behind. why search and rescue teams have barely been able to enter the
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region, ismail abdullah, a volunteer with the white helmets. ismail, i thank you so much for being with us today. we've heard that rescue operations are winding down, rescue ones. what's the situation right now on the ground? >> the situation right now, there are 40,000 people homeless after the deadly earthquake. more than 12,000 people injured. as you mentioned, most of the injured people die in the hospital because of the lack of medical supply. we are working to retrieve bodies after ten days. after ten days, it's almost impossible to dig out -- to get survivor from beneath the rubble. it has been a long time. it has been a long time since the earthquake hit. we said from the very beginning, we need urgent help to enable us to help those who are trapped.
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now after ten days, it's almost impossible and we are at the end of the operations, almost finished. we're still looking for a few people missing. we are seeing reports from communities and families about missing people. i'm talking the team is still searching for a little boy missing from under the rubble. >> i'm just wondering, it seems as though -- i can sense your frustration and it's a very real one of maybe if you had been getting more aid you could have gotten more people out alive. and then what help do you need going forward? you're talking about 12,000 injured. the majority are dying because there is no help. what help can you receive and
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what help do you need? >> first thing, we ask for help and they give us -- they gave us many excuses. what we care about, this is the responsibility of the u.n. to provide urgent help to those who suffered, and now they are injured. they just gave us promises. yesterday they said there was additional 2.2. but up to now we receive two convoys, what we need exactly, shelter for those who are homeless right now. we need medical care. we need medical supplies to enable the hospital, which were a target for the assad forces
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and russia, most of the hospitals devastated by the bombing. they suffered from pandemics and then doctors left, medics were killed. owe the infrastructure, the hospitals are not ready now to receive people. before the earthquake, the hospitals in northwest syria are not enough to receive the enormous situation. not now after the thousands of people who were injured and now we have thousands homeless people. so we need shelter, we need food kits for them, hygiene kits, medical supplies for the hospital to help with the impacts of the earthquake. >> ismail, i thank you so much for being with us. i hear about these promises of help and promises don't save
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visit was preplanned. this was organized, a new part of our district and we're very proud to be representing douglas. we're here to meet with the mayor, other officials, take a tour of the port of entry and discuss the plans. the inflation reduction act provided expansion, renovation of a port that's needed it for decades. it's a great investment. it's an economic investment. that's part of the reality of what's going on at the border. they are struggling to come up with a plan to deal with the challenges, the urgency and the humanitarian crisis at the border hasn't been presented yet. i really worry that we're going to end up with a narrow, nonsolution based, ideological beating the same drum about the situation at the border over and over again. these communities like douglas
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that are a rich part of the history of our region, and i hope that there's substance but i don't expect it. >> so, congressman, let's talk about substance because as we know and you're so well versed in this, but so title 42, which has essentially been utilized as an immigration policy is essentially coming to an end in may. you have haitians, venezuelans, cubans being sent back to mexico, told to use an app to apply for asylum. some people are even flying to canada and crossing the northern border into the u.s. >> yes. >> talk to me about how you think the humanitarian crisis at the border for those thousands of people that are trying to get to the united states, trying to ask for asylum, what's the solution to that? >> i think the solution is investment. you cannot deal with this issue without sitting down and defining what you mean by solutions. the only solutions that we're receiving right now is the same rhetoric about -- divisive
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rhetoric. the same bigotry that we hear over and over again about replacement theories but no real solutions. what this region needs is economic development investment and that means a newport of entry, an up-to-date port of entry with 70% of all the apprehensions of drug smuggling occur by the way, so it's a security issue as well. and we need to fully resource the asylum core, the professional staff and the communities. make sure that fema provides the resources so that they are made whole and are able to pass case management and provide humanitarian assistance to families. it is a regional issue, but it's also an international issue. partnerships with latin america, understanding the push and the pull of immigration, looking at seasonal workers, those are all
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solutions that need to be at the table if we're going to realistically deal with this, we need to get serious about it. and we're not. we're going to continue to beat a political drum, set up for 20 24, and ignore the reality of what's happening at the border. and what kevin mccarthy and jim jordan will do when they come to the border will not solve it. >> a pleasure to see you. i thank you for being with us this morning. today the environmental protection agency and its leader is going to be visiting the area there in ohio where the train derailment has caused so much concern and so many fears for so many people there. that's something that has been, of course, occurring now more than ten days. the administrator is going to be visiting palestine as head of health and safety concerns from
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the derailment. there was a heated town hall where residents pressed officials for answers. but representatives from the train company were not in attendance. joining us now from east palestine, ohio, is george solis. george, good morning. what's the latest there? >> reporter: a number of questions that residents have both the long term and the short term. the short term being the cleanup at the site where the train derailed. the long term, things like water and air quality. people want to know when will it be safe, if ever, to return back to their homes. you have people that have returned to town but you also have people staying away because they are concerned for their health. you mentioned the epa administrator who is in town today. he plans on taking questions directly from the residents who have the most concern. he also wants to give some demonstrations of some of the air and water quality monitoring that's been going on. for reference here, i want to give you some context. ohio emergency management says they have been doing consistent
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water testing out here and keep finding no evidence of any contaminants in the water. as of yesterday, the epa issued an update saying they have screened more than 459 homes and found no detections of vinyl chloride or hydrogen chloride, the chemicals raising the most concerns. they're not the only people in town, i should say. moments ago i spoke with senator j.d. vance who is also here. i asked if he plans on meeting with the epa administrator while he's in town and he says at this point it doesn't seem like he wants to do that. i also asked him what is he telling the people of this town, specifically those who are concerned about coming back to their homes? take a listen to what he told me. >> i would not point my finger at somebody and say, look, this is safe, you need to come back. it's up to us to give people the confidence to come back to their homes. it's a frightening situation. my guidance was continue to drink the bottled water. we don't know. people say that the air is clean. i would like to believe that's true. i also have been here for all of three hours and it doesn't smell
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great to me, especially when you first arrive. this morning i was immediately struck by the smell of the air. >> george solis, thank you very much. indeed, george, sorry, i didn't mean to interrupt. i thank you for being with us. that wraps up the hour for me. you can always reach me on twitter and instagram and watch the highlights of today's show. i thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news now. with itszable options chain, easy-to-use tools, and paper trading to help sharpen your skills, you can stay on top of the market from wherever you are. think he's posting about all that ancient roman coinage? no. he's making real-time money moves with merrill. so no matter what the market's doing, he's ready. and that's... how you collect coins. your money never stops working for you with merrill, a bank of america company.
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