that he always wanted to be. and i think that, i think he inherited that from his father, i think his father impressed upon him you're nothing unless you come back here a major success. we have a lot of that our country. it's that thing of my number's about to come in. >> my number is about to commit. and even hoping for that number, it does make your day a little brighter. but when it comes in, it's not always what it seems. >> that was billy crudup on the show earlier this week. hello tomorrow! is now streaming on apple tv+, and that does it for morning joe weekend on this saturday morning joe is back on monday at 6 am eastern. have a wonderful rest of the weekend. t of the weekend. >> this is the katie phang show live from new york city. we've got lots of news to cover and lots of questions to answer, , so let's get started.

our vice president on that world stage. kamala harris in munich as the war in ukraine approaches but one year mark. will the u.s. continue to support ukraine? but the vice president is saying about russia's aggression. plus, more than two weeks since that fiery trains realm in ohio. officials are claiming the town is safe, but residents are telling a very different story. we'll have the latest from east palestine. and later, the mental and emotional strain on teenage girls. nearly one and three highschoolers reported seriously considering suicide. i want to know what can be done to help. all of that and more is coming up. ♪ ♪ ♪ a good saturday morning to you, i'm katie phang, coming to you live at a new hour. thank you for starting your day with us. we are beginning today's show with some breaking news

overnight. north korea launching a single ballistic missile towards the sea of japan. the provocation coming just as vice president kamala harris is speaking in germany, with leaders of france, united kingdom, and dozens of other countries at the annual munich security conference. for the first time in two decades, russian leaders were not invited. the reason why is obvious. it's been nearly one year since president putin began his brutal invasion of ukraine. vice president harris affirmed the united states commitment to ukraine and have this to say to russia. >> the united states has formally determined that russia has committed crimes against humanity. and i say to all those who have perpetrated these crimes, and to their superiors, who are complicit in these crimes, you

will be held to account. >> joining me now from munich's democratic representative, jim hines. he is the ranking member of the house intelligence committee. representative hines, it's always a pleasure to have you here on the show. look, we mentioned in the intro, for the first time since the 1990s, russia was not invited to the conference. considering russia's exclusion, based on what you just heard, and frankly, but we all just heard, from vice president harris, that was very strong language. do you think putin is finally hearing the message loud and clear? >> well, there's no question he's hearing the message loud and clear. the question is, does he care about it? that is been the question for the last year or so, as he's conducted this brutal attack on ukraine. it was galvanizing in the room to hear the vice president say we are now formally considering russia, as the vice president said, from -- in the field right up into the

people in the kremlin responsible for crimes against humanity. you know, there was a thirst for that sort of justice here in munich. of course, we hope that that might cause some of the people of some of the russians involved in the war on ukraine to think twice about their actions. >> i think another thing that might make them think twice, representative, the fact that president biden will be traveling to poland next week to commemorate the one year mark of the war. there has been a bipartisan call for the united states to send more military aid in the form of f-16s to ukraine. do you think the administration is going to continue to do as much as it can, in terms of the military support is providing? >> i do. i do, and that began the day, i'm pretty convinced that putin thinking twice is going to be him understanding the losses he is bearing, both in terms of men and his military, are no longer sustainable. of course, that is going to be a function of the speed with which we can get those munitions. that training done.

you can just send a tank. you can't just send an aircraft. you need to actually train the ukrainians in the use of that material. pamela, i will tell you, i was in breakfast this morning with ministers of defense for probably ten of our nato allies. everybody is now completely on the same page, that russia must lose, ukraine must win, and we need to provide the tools necessary to bring that about sooner rather than later. >> when you say everybody is on the same page, representative, does include countries like turkey being okay with countries like finland actually getting nato status? >> that is a different issue. turkey has their own issues with but two candidates for nato, having to do with the kurds. the feeling here is, and i'm not in on those discussions, but the feeling here is that the turks have an election coming up. a lot of what we're hearing out of turkey, maybe as it might be in the united states during election time, about the upcoming elections. the feeling here is one of optimism ultimately, both

finland and sweden will be nato allies. >> representative, we know secretary of state anthony blinken and his chinese counterpart are actually present in munich for this conference. i would like to ask you about china and the aftermath of that downs spy balloon. let me quickly play a little bit of sound for you. is john kirby, and what he said yesterday at the white house briefing. >> we're going to exploit this material as best we can. we learned a lot already through the balloon by surveilling it while it was flying over the country. we're going to learn even more, we believe, by getting a look at the guts inside it and seeing how it worked and what it was capable of. >> you know, representative himes, assuming our innuendo, the u.s. military, its intelligence agencies, looks at the guts of what was going on with this chinese spy balloon. it confirms suspicions that it was improperly surveilling our country, should president biden be taking a more aggressive approach to our relationship with china at this point? >> well, look.

we can't have the balloon episode color the deeper strategic relationship with china. it was a brazen act that the chinese did, and either ordering or allowing, we are not entirely clear what exactly happened, that balloon into u.s. airspace. look, this is, i'm in germany right now. the chinese are the number two trader with germany. they are massively important to the u.s. economy. so, we can't let this balloon episode interfere with our largest strategic objectives, which is, of course, to get the chinese to be part of our team, eventually, observing the rule of law, contorting themselves are according to values, with respect to their minorities, and all of that stuff. so, by the way, we also need the secretary of state to be able to look at his chinese counterpart and say it is not in your long-term interest to be part of this losing effort that putin is running in ukraine. we have very, very big fish to fry with the chinese. i would suggest that is brazen

as the balloon episode was, it can't be allowed to interfere with a deeper strategic interest that we have with the chinese. >> i know you're very busy, but i quickly want to ask you one question before i let you go. this year, a record number of u.s. officials are attending that munich security conference. about one third of the united states senate is present. how does that square representative, with the continued complaint by some republicans that we need to stop providing aid to ukraine? >> first of all, i think you made the point there. we have the largest delegation ever to the munich security conference. i would tell you that yes, there are some people, the republicans tend to be a little more vocal about it, there are some democrats, i, think a little skeptical of our effort. here's the thing. it's a tiny percentage of the overall u.s. congress. i almost want to say that again. a tiny percentage. it's really important that the russians understand, and our allies understand, hey, we are a big, messy democracy. people have different opinions. but look at the biggest

allocation ever to the munich security conference a, in regardless of democratic or republican registration, we are behind nato. we are behind the ukrainians in making sure that the ukrainians to fight the russians. >> my thanks to you, congressman jim himes, for joining us live from munich. i appreciate you. and we're going to turn now to the apocalyptic scenes out of ohio. it's been over two weeks since a norfolk southern train derailed near east palestine. the stench of dangerous chemicals have not left the small village. residents are still complaining of headaches, irritated eyes, bloody noses, and even finding dying pets. it's been especially painful for the tight-knit community, who felt they had overcome recent problems like the pandemic and a stagnating economy before the trains are derailment. as one woman told the washington post, we were starting to make a comeback. the senate environment of public works committee is planning a hearing soon, quote unquote, for the health and

safety concerns in east palestine. nbc news correspondent george soliz has more. liz has more >> the residents here of east palestine still skeptical over some of the mixed messaging from local, state, and federal officials, as far as the quality of their air and water is concerned. mind you, the governor speaking, telling residents here in the city that their water is now safe to drink after repeated testing. only advising those on well watered to stick to bottled water until their wells are tested. the governor announcing that fema will now provide assistance to the region after repeated claims the agency would not be here in east palestine, because he said they did not qualify for that federal aid. to that, there will be more federal assistance coming to the region outside of fema, saying health and human services, along with the ohio department of health, will be opening a health clinic to further addressed residents health concerns. of course, many residents here still worried about any rain and runoff that may further contaminate waterways. the governor addressing these

concerns by saying they have hazardous material teams here on the ground to try to keep any contamination from spreading as well as building some dams along the waterways, officials here continuously stressed out about some of the conditions that they have seen at the relevant sites. they hope the train operator will continue to take accountability. we do know they have been paying out residents. the company saying we have so far paid out more than 2 million to those impacted in the region. many wondering if norfolk southern will actually come to town to answer more questions from the residence. back to you. >> nbc's george solis, thank you for that report. coming up, the special grand jury in georgia investigating trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election dropped a bombshell this week. what it means for the case moving forward. later this hour, a new cdc reports as teen girls are experiencing record levels of hopelessness and sadness. we will explain. much more on the katie phang

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the fulton county grand jury, the special grand jury looking into whether president trump antis allies tried to interfere with the 2020 election believe some of it witnesses interviewed may have lied under oath. now, we've only seen part of the full report and we don't know who or how many people may have committed perjury. but the list of people who did testify includes some -- names like senator lindsey graham, georgia governor brian kemp, and former counsel to donald trump, rudy giuliani. joining me now is hugo lowell, investigations reporter for the guardian, and joyce vance, a -- in -- and an msnbc legal analyst. good morning to both of you, my friends. joyce, i'm going to start with you. how unusual is it to have

members of a special grand jury like this one in fulton county make it a point to not only note that witnesses may have committed a perjury, but to recommend that the da pursue indictments for it? >> so, it's very interesting, katie. you know like i do that grand juries typically don't lay out their reasoning in writing, like this grant to re-chose to do. part of that is the work of almost a year as an investigative grand jury. but the interesting thing about this perjury section and the proposal they make that the grand jury should have its recommendation taken up by the da, that she should engage in indictments here, is that it comes at the end of the section we didn't see. the substance recommendations for prosecutions, which it looks like that could be five or six pages long. they are obviously incensed by what they perceived as being lied to by one or more of the witnesses. >> he, this is special grand

jury in fulton county unanimously, everybody agreed, that there was no evidence of irregularity or voter fraud. so, let's back it out a little bit and consider how does that play into an investigation like the one that special counsel jack smith is doing? >> it sets the baseline, right? if you set the baseline as, well -- you look at the rest of the investigation and how trump was trying to overturn the election, in a different light. because what trump is going to claim, if this ever goes to trial or if this ever ends up in indictment, is, well, i was just trying to do the american people a solid. i was trying to fight voter fraud. but if there was no voter fraud, and the special counsel's office or the district attorney's office can show that even the trump campaign knew that was not true, and the entire basis of that defense for defense -- is a really important part of the support. >> joyce vance, i'm going to switch gears. cnn's reporting this week the former white house chief of staff, mark meadows, is subpoenaed by special counsel jack smith. i have been thinking this all-time, meadows might be cooperating with the doj,

because he has been so darn quiet. but choice, should the existence of a subpoena change my view? >> i don't think it does, katie. one way or the other, meadows has been very quiet, and that is something i typically associate with a witness who has decided to cooperate when they go dark. but it is important to remember that meadows cooperated with the january six committee until suddenly, he didn't. that said, he gave them a larger volume of information. some of it is highly incriminating, and it may be that federal prosecutors have now confronted him with the incriminating parts and convinced him that his future lies in cooperation. i think it is very difficult to read the tea leaves about mark meadows, given his past history. >> you know, hugo, it's not just mark meadows that's in crosshairs as well. we know special counsel jack smith is looking at mike pence, subpoenaing mike pence for testimony and documents. unknowingly, mike pence is

going to fight that, claiming speech and debate clause protection. then, some indication, i'm sure, by donald trump of executive privilege. how concerned should americans be that this type of delay tactic that's going to be deployed by mike pence is going to slow down jack smith significantly so, so the 2024 election ends up roiling plans to maybe indict donald trump? >> there's two issues here. the first thing is, i'm sure the special counsel's office has anticipated extended litigation with pence in particular, because they know he is going to be more likely not running for president. they know he is not going to want to be seen by his base to be reaching out to trump. so, i have anticipated him they can sue their investigative timeline, kind of extended the time before chief judge and the district of columbia. now, that being said, i think there's a separate -- issue of whether the doj will get pence's testimony. the case on this is very small, but when we have had previous assertions of speech and debate

and an underlying criminal process, we have seen speech and the big to be a pretty much abstract privilege, and just by showing need, has not been sufficient to overcome that privilege. i think ultimately, pence may well prevail. you may not end up testifying to the special counsel's office, and jack smith will have to go alternative hours to get testimony about what pence was talking about through donald trump. >> joyce, i want to end with you. my question is, i predict the fulton county da, fani willis, in thanks donald trump. whether you end up getting a conviction, that's left to be seen,? right is there an issue vis-à-vis jurisdiction? if you get an indictment by donald trump by fulton county da, and then, jack smith tees up an indictment, which is first, and hugo, mar-a-lago. we think mar-a-lago doc's case is going to be the one that is going to be the first up by jack smith. it's the real concern that they can't coexist? these two commitments can't travel at the same time, in any way? >> there is no concern they

can't coexist at the same time. there are cases where you see defendants indicted by multiple jurisdictions. there's some procedural issues, where judges have to consult with each other on the timing, there are questions about when a defendant goes into custody pretrial, which jurisdiction will take that defended it's a trial, but those are situations that the legal system is well accustomed to dealing with. i don't see that as a problem. there's an interesting twist though, katie, there's a little known statue that permits a federal official indicted in state court to remove that indictment into the federal court. that here would be the northern district of georgia. that would be a strategic consideration for the former president. which jury would you rather have? fulton county or the northern district of georgia, which is a large jurisdiction that leans a little bit more conservative, maybe a lot more conservative than the county does, if you think political beliefs

influenced jury outcomes, so it's possible we could end up seeing federal involvement in some of those cases. this is the kind of strategy trump likes to pursue. he likes anything that injects on certainty and delay into the proceedings, and the removal of the federal court will certainly accomplish that goal here. >> one word answer from you here, hugo, and then to joyce. do you agree fulton county da comes up first for an indictment on donald trump? >> yes. >> joyce? >> maybe. >> spoken like a true lawyer. joyce vance, hugo lowell, my friends, thank you so much for joining us this morning. i appreciate both of you. and coming up, the latest on the tragic shooting yesterday in a small mississippi town. plus, today, family and friends will say a final goodbye to two of the three victims lost in the michigan state university shooting, i'll talk to one of the parents of the survivors, next, stay with us. xt, stay with us an architecture firm...

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familiar news to share with you this morning. six people were killed by gunfire friday afternoon at cape county, mississippi, and it is a small community about five miles south of memphis, tennessee. police say the suspect killed his ex wife and stepfather, among others. he is currently being held without bond. late last night, president biden released a statement calling the shooting horrendous and urging congress to act on gun violence. this was the 73rd mass shooting of the year, and we are only 39 days into 2023. in michigan, the funerals are being held today for two of the three victims killed in a michigan state university shooting. brian fraser and alexandria verner are both being remembered at separate services. the funeral services for arielle anderson will take place on tuesday. according to campus police, four of the five students wounded in the shooting remain

hospitalized in critical condition. now, classes are set to resume monday at michigan state. exactly one week after the shooting. one of the students who survived this attack also lived through another school shooting, just 15 months ago,, at her michigan high school. emma riddell spoke out this week. >> i have watched in anger and in tears as our elected government officials disregard our voices as we keep dying. two nights ago, i was taken back to the 30th, experiencing something i thought i would never have to go through again. today, i am exhausted. i'm exhausted i know what's coming. i'm exhausted i am once again asking our legislators to put our lives first. we are dying. we, the children of the united states of america, are dying every day. how many people died before it's enough? >> joining me now is a must father, matt riddell. matt, thank you so much for taking the time to join us today.

i am the mother of an eight year old, and i find it to be unbelievable and yet sadly, a tragically believable thing that your daughter has been through two mass shootings in 15 months. both of which occurred when she was at school. at a place where she should feel safest. most importantly, i want to start off asking you, how is emma doing? >> yeah, it's been a lot. it's been a week of just talking through what happens, and coming to terms with it as best as you can. like you mentioned, there was one monday. so, the turnaround time it's pretty short. i think they had about six weeks after the shooting, six days after this one. i understand, but she is doing okay. i mean, it has been a lot to process and a lot to understand. this happens again. kind of having that conversation about why and how, but most important for us is just being with her and giving her space and any care, supporting needs to just make sure she is processing and

moving through this the best she can. >> you know, matt, when emmett was hiding in fear during the shooting at michigan state, you had a text exchange with your daughter. it was so painful to have to read. how did it feel as a parents to have to go through that moment in time with your daughter? >> it was a lot to process for us, because you want to be there protecting them. your entire goal as a parent is to keep them safe and to protect them, do the best you can to give him the opportunity, to enjoy themselves and be happy, but also be safe, and then you realize in that moment you can't. you know that. they go to college, they've got to live their lives and have experiences, but it still takes a piece of you to realize you aren't able to protect them when you need to and wants to. so, the michigan state -- that was. long i think i spent around 8:30, notifying us of the warning or the notification they've been given to go into lockdown. it was almost three hours

before it was resolved. it was a really, really long night of not knowing what was happening and being with her a lot over text and whisper phone calls, make sure that if she was safe, just letting her know hey, you are as safe as you can be. you're in a dorm room. you are locked down, barricaded. it is scary, but you are as safe as you can be in this moment, in this situation. again, just supporting and letting her know, love her, she is great, trying to keep her as positive as you can be in a situation like that. >> in the aftermath of the hostage shooting that emmett went through, and, now this michigan state shooting. do you think that your personal position on common sense gun legislation has evolved or changed, because it has been a direct impact on you, your daughter, and your family? >> it has. i think she is much more reasonable than i am, which is shocking. she has been through this twice, and i just sit and watch or go through it. and, she didn't want to talk about common sense gun laws,

and safe storing logs, and i think those make sense and i wish i thought that we could accomplish that. i do, sometimes, get angry. i do think to myself, why is this happening again? why is this something? the first time, you think, this can never happen again. this is a once in a lifetime, you made it through, it is awful, but now you are done. and you know that's not true. you hope is true, right? you think logically, it can't happen again. i sometimes feel angry, or than to myself well, maybe we are fed up. maybe we're trying to negotiate in good faith and they're not. if we are not able to get to the table and have a conversation, let's go all the way the other way. let's take the guns away. and that's what happens then, maybe then we'll talk. i'm not someone who thinks he can't haunt, and there are things that makes sense to me, but otherwise, why are we doing this? why are we pretend think there is a common ground, or no one seems to be willing to at least meet at the common ground? i want to take stronger stance. >> do you share a concern, matt,

because it's not just emma. you have a daughter, lily, in high school at oxford. do you have a concern that if nothing is done, if action isn't taken, if governments don't get it together too and that this type of legislation that is supposed to protect our children and all of us, do you have a concern that something can actually happen to lilly as well? >> i do. she is someone you hope, again, i -- couldn't happen at oxford again, it could happen to him again. i worry, every day, she goes to school next year, when she goes to college, what is going to happen then? how is this going to impact her? i think even further forward, is only getting worse. it obviously is. i hope they have grandkids one day, and how are they going to deal with this? this generation has dealt with -- training and lockdown trainings their whole lives. this has been in their consciousness since the day they were entering the school districts, right? they've had to learn this could happen to you. that's a whole fact. even if it never happens, having to acknowledge that it

might happen is so terrible, and yet, that in of itself is not enough, apparently, to have those conversations with legislature about what that needs to happen. i need to see any evidence that folks are willing to talk. i don't think they are right now, because i see parts of the internet, just -- she made that wonderful speech, and her tweet was very very role. but then i see comments and other things, you know the comments, we understand. that it's not always. real. people don't seem to care or even want to have a reasonable conversation, and i don't see our legislators do, either. if we are going to have no change, and if you talk to parents from columbine, when i was in college, or sandy hook, they are more frustrated than i am! they have been waiting 2010, five, seven, how many years it has been, to see actual change, and nothing is happening! it's been a year and 15 months for me. they must be ten times more frustrated than i am, to see nothing happening and the consequence.

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school board meeting in bayville, new jersey this week, as parents and students spoke out about the suicide of a 14 year old student. adriana kuch took her own life last month, just days after video of her being attacked in a school hallway was posted on social media. many at the school board meeting complains of a culture of bullying. >> i tried so hard [crying] i tried so hard to just talk! to just try [crying] to try for everybody here, to get them to listen to us! we are crying, we are mourning

the loss of a student, a peer, of a best friend, of a daughter! >> she was bullied and harassed and mocked after her death! >> god, that is so hard to listen to. the new jersey case underscores the devastating findings of a new cdc study. teen girls are engulfed in violence and trauma, and experiencing record levels of hopelessness and sadness. nearly one in the three high school girls, one in three, reported in 2021 that they seriously considered suicide. up nearly 60% from a decade ago. federal researchers say pandemic lockdowns, academic strain, sexual violence, and online bullying are some of the key factors in this national state of emergency for mental health. joining me now is doctor kimberly schoen or rankle, scientific adviser for mind up, a mental fitness program, and the nova foundation and that air in social and emotional learning. the department of psychology at the university of illinois at chicago.

dr. kim, that was so hard to listen to. you consider that alarming cdc report we were just talking about, noting teen girls are twice as likely than boys to consider suicide. why? why are teenage girls suffering at such stalking numbers? >> katie, thank you so much for having me on today. this is very concerning. the crisis is clearly there for these young females. i think there are several reasons. i was really thinking about the ideas of the social media. the constant flow of social media and also what research finds is that girls and women are actually, they have higher levels of empathy. you can imagine constantly being bombarded with seeing other peoples pain and feeling like there is nothing to do about it. that sense of hopelessness. so, it's so critical that we really pay attention, to figure out what is happening, and how we can actually mitigate these problems. we do know these problems can be prevented. >> girls are also almost twice

as likely as boys to be bullied online through texting and social media. how does social media affect teens social and mental development? >> certainly, it's something that helps them develop their identity. so, social media now is so much an extension of their identity. now that they're so infused with social media every day, they are constantly watching it and that have an aspect called social aggression, so, they experience that much more than boys do, when boys spread -- girls spread rumors and talk behind people's backs, and so all of that really affects them, because they start incorporating it into their identity. the other important thing to keep in mind, even now, of course, we know about the social media, it's also something we call stress contagion. we know that stress is contagious. so, even like other kinds of emotions, emotions are contagious, but stressed is contagious. so, if you think about young girls around others who are

stressed, they are also taking that on and experiencing increased stress as well. >> there is another survey by education week. it found that 44% of gen z has felt down and depressed, just in a last two weeks. breaking the highest in comparison to other generations. i mean, doctor kim, you heard matt riddle in that last segment having his daughter go through two mass shootings in 15 months. what are some of the signs that parents can be on the lookout for, and how can parents help navigate the mental health struggles of 13 children? >> i think for sure, the parents have to keep a line of communication open with their teens. sometimes, we characterize adolescents as a time where they don't want to talk to their parents, or they don't want their parents involved. certainly, we see the increased focus on the peer relationships. parents should realize that when research really shows that he needs to care about their parents and what their parents think, really keeping those lines of communication open, to

notice if your young teen is actually becoming more irritable, not sleeping well, being able to remove themselves from their peer relationships, those are warning signs for parents to pay attention. really, what teens no, and what i love so much about emma's father in that previous segment, is talking about how he just put the communication open and really constantly saying, we support you. we are here for you. we love you. those things are so critical for parents, even if the teens don't seem to take those messages and, you still have to say them. >> you know, dr. kim, this is just the tip of the iceberg, sadly. i want to thank you, dr. kimberly schonert-reichl, for taking the time to join us. i want to have you come back, because we need to break down more of this cdc reports. thank you for being here this morning. >> thank you so much, katie. >> and if you or someone you know is struggling with suicidal thoughts or mental health matters, please call the

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leaders and activists took to the streets of tallahassee this week to protest florida's recent projection of a proposed ap african american studies course. the states department of education argued that the course quote, lacked educational value. after a month of silence, the college board finally hits back, calling departments criticism slander. but in his latest salvo, governor on desantis threatens to cut ties with the college

board and to eliminate all advanced placement classes. >> the question is is, ap is kind of what the college board, who elected them? are there other people that provide service? it turns out, there are. it's not clear to me that this particular operator is the one that is going to be used in the future. >> well, this goes far beyond a peak horses. desantis is already using taxpayers dollars to advance his anti woke agenda, allocating $50 million to overhaul and restructure the new college of florida. desantis just maybe getting started. as he tries to boost his national profile by flirting with the possible run for the oval office. joining me now is florida state senator, shevrin jones. shevrin jones, my friend, is so good to see you. you were there in tallahassee. you spoke at those protests this week. the crowd marched from that full missionary baptist church to the state capital.

explain to the viewer the significance of these protests. >> first of all, thank you for having me on, katie. for those who did not know the definition of intersectionality, it was defined for them on wednesday at the march. people from all over the state of florida joined in unity and solidarity to make it clear that if you come for one of us, you come for all of us. from students and parents, black, white, gay, straight, transgender, and all types of religions, they all were there, on wednesday. it's also a resistance to what we are seeing happen across this country. people realize that if it's happening in florida, texas is next, arizona is next, tennessee is next. so, that message had to be amplified. i am so happy that representative alan sharpie came to give us this moment. >> chevron, in the updated ap course, students are going to miss out on pivotal black authors,, including kimberly crenshaw, bell hooks. i want you to explain how damaging it is to exclude these

voices from history and lived experiences that they shared with millions of african americans. >> well, that's the truth. that is what intersectionality is. especially the, doing away with these books and individuals who wrote from their experiences of their time, students deserve to understand. as a matter of fact, advanced placement students are going to learn about that. they are going to find this information, because the students have that type of information right at their fingertips. but i think we should not be confused in this moment and what we are seeing right now. we have seen this before. we've seen these moments before in history, with the band in the books, and the -- of teachers, and what you can and cannot say. unfortunate, the college board is now the latest bookie man for governor desantis, and of course, this is what the government does who -- does to people who don't agree with him in this dangerous rhetoric and his policies. he's coming after you, and he's willing to sink the entire ship off for the sake of getting his way. >> you know, we lift this

misery that the red state florida has become. as i mentioned earlier, ron desantis is now threatening to ban all ap classes. he has also started a hostile takeover of florida colleges, by spending millions of dollars on institutional restructuring. that's what he is calling it. he's also announced his intentions to got diversity, equity, and inclusion programs. how concerning is it that the santas could take that platform of hatred and launch it on a national level for his bid to be 2024 winner of the presidential election? >> i think it is dangerous. i think we should be playing close attention to what the policies and the rhetoric that the governor is doing. if he can go after disney world, what makes you think you don't go after the college board, or what makes you think he won't go after the colleges and universities? he just did a full takeover of new college, a very small, quaint college right here within the state of florida. here is the problem. in florida, students from over 800 schools across the state

are enrolled in some kind of advanced placement course. most are taken by that students to take into college with them. the governor really wants to use education to get into the minds of students, to get to the minds of teachers, and to really put this fearmongering across the state and across the country. >> i want to thank you, florida state senator, shevrin jones, for being out there in the street, making sure your voices heard, and making sure that our viewers understand how critical things are in florida. i appreciate you. >> thanks for having me here. >> i want to thank all of you for joining me this morning. i'll be back here tomorrow at this new hour, 8 am. i welcome mary trump, author of neath of former president donald trump, to talk about the latest legal trappings her uncle is facing. that's tomorrow at 8 am, eastern, right on msnbc. stay tuned. the saturday show with my friends, jonathan capehart. it's coming up next. business.

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kamala harris reaffirms united states commitment to ukraine and formally it closes russia of crimes against humanity as the war nears the one year mark. a live report from the munich security conference, a big setback for the big lie, donald trump and his allies suffer a week of legal losses, and, family affair, martin luther king the third and his wife on the fight for social justice and passing the torch to their 14-year-old daughter. i am jonathan capehart and this is the debut of the saturday show. good morning, we are following the latest news of the munich security conference where russia's war on ukraine's at the top