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watching symone. we are getting some breaking news on how the former president, jimmy carter, is doing. we will have an update on just a moment. finally on the way -- fema is headed to the states more than two weeks after the train derailment and toxic spill in east palestine. where many are worried that the air and water are just not safe. we are asking the ap aid ministries or who has been to the derailment site about his promise to the committee. plus vice president harris condemns russia for committing crimes against humanity in ukraine. vows to hold them accountable. we will have more details on the vice presidents hard-line speech in munich from earlier today. also, former president donald trump has multiple investigations hanging over his head from 2020. now a partial grand jury report released in -- interference case out of georgia. latest development, we are digging into it could signal for trump and for his allies. i am symone sanders-townsend, and i have something to say.

♪ ♪ ♪ we begin with breaking news this hour about former president jimmy carter. we have learned that the 98 year old has made the decision to receive hospice care at home in georgia. let's go straight to the white house. that is where msnbc's monica alba has the latest for us. monika, what can you tell us? >> simone, we are just getting more information in from the carter center, of course, that nonprofit that the carters had built and dedicated their lives to, really for decades after leaving the white house. and we understand that former president jimmy carter has been in and out of the hospital in recent days. a couple of visits. we don't know yet what prompted those. but after discussions with his family, he today has decided to spend his remaining timeouts home, surrounded by loved ones

and to receive hospice care instead of additional medical intervention. the statement says he has the full support of his family and his medical team by deciding this. and the carter family now is asking for privacy during this time. and says they are grateful for the concern shown by his many admirers. so, of course, to just talk about the former president in the context of his place in history, he served as a democratic president in the late 1970s. one-term. and after that he went to really go on and dedicate his life to service. working so closely with the mission of habitat for humanity. again, alongside his wife of many many decades. ross lynn carter who is now 95 years old. the former president has had multiple health scares. he was diagnosed with melanoma, some years ago. back in 2015. that ultimately did spread to his long and his brain. and around then he spoke about the possibility of losing his life, saying he thought he only

had a few weeks to live. and back then he was reflecting and saying that he was so grateful for the life that he had been able to have up until this point. now these many years later we understand he is surrounded by his entire family at his home in georgia. and we are just getting news of a message that his grandson sent out. who says, i saw both of my grandparents yesterday. they are at. peace and as, always their home is full of love. symone? >> and as nbc's monica alba. thank you. we are praying for the carter family. the people of georgia and this nation. we will continue to bring you any updates about president carter as they come. i want to turn now to that train derailment that ice led to an environmental disaster in east palestine, ohio. the senate commerce committee is going to investigate and committee chair senator maria cantwell has asked the rail company, norfolk southern, for

its safety records. now, let me make sure you are all aware of what happened. so yesterday, ohio governor mike dewine announced that the federal emergency management agency, or fema. they will send federal resources to the area. as he laid all the blame for the disaster of norfolk southern. >> we believe that the railroad should continue to pay. we are going to insist that they pay. whatever damages have been caused. the railroad is responsible for those damages. >> now, this comes right after a second nor folks othering train came off the rails near detroit on thursday. raising even more concerns about what is going on with america's real race. it has now been two weeks since the first derailment. when 38 cars went off the tracks in east palestine, sparking a lot massive fire. 11 of those cars were carrying the carcinogen final chloride.

among other carcinogens. now, norfolk southern released the poisonous gas into the air and burned it. this was in an effort to prevent any more explosions. but people from east palestine were even more concerned about the toxic cloud they saw a rising above their homes. now, government officials are telling folks to go back home. and that the water is safe. really? >> many people and east palestine aren't buying that. >> they said, oh, it is kind of like paint. there is a residual smell after you paint your house. but, okay, if that is the case then why are people still getting a sore throats and, you know, their eyes burning. >> now that we are home, you don't know what you think. >> all i know is our town needs help. >> don't tell me it is safe, something is going on official floating the creek. >> look, folks, the original blame for the disaster may lie squarely on the shoulders of the rail company.

of norfolk southern. but how government entities handled this disaster now is the issue at hand. i am joined now by the administrator of the environmental protection agency, michael regan. mister administrator, thank you so much for joining us, you have had a busy week. you visited the train derailment site in east palestine. you promised to hold norfolk southern accountable. my question is how will you do that? >> thank you for having us, simon, listen, we will use the full authority that we have to hold in or focus other unaccountable. for the cleanup and the damage, the environmental damage that they have caused. i have to think the emergency responders that have been there, since day one. including my team. because we have not seen any loss of life or serious injury. but that doesn't take away the anxiety and the pain and the confusion that nor folks otherness caused this community.

so what i have promised, and we will carry through, nor focus southern will be held fully accountable. and we will use our oversight and our enforcement authority to do so. >> administrator reagan, i think that your words could be comforting to folks. but the reality is that we don't know the true environmental impact of these events right now. we may not even know them for years to come. local authorities are saying it is safe. you have said that it is safe. but residents are scared. is there a possibility that local authorities, epa more broadly moved too quickly in advising people to go back into their homes? >> well -- there is a lack of trust with all governmental entities. you know, during this current time that we face. but let me tell you what the facts are. the epa on day one was there. we deployed, you know, high

tech assets. we have a mobile airplane, an aerial monitoring that we deployed. we have a mobile monitoring that we have deployed in the community. we have stationary air monitors. and we have been inside of nearly 500 homes, monitoring indoor air quality. none of those results have come back at levels of concern. we are also supporting -- >> mr. administrator, i'm sorry to interrupt you, but i think the air quality point is an important one. and i'm glad that you point that out. but residents and east palestine would say, what about the hundreds of thousands of dead fish on the road? 3500 dead fish? spilling out of the lake, that is out of the ordinary? >> it is, and clean up in the lakes, rivers, and creeks are ongoing. i think you have seen some of the pictures. multiple demonstrations by people that there is product in those bodies of water. what the state has said is that

the drinking water has been tested. and that private wells are being tested. so what we said is the drinking water in the homes that have been tested by the state have met the satisfactory, you know, green light to have access to that drinking water. if your home has not been tested, i think governor dewine has said it best, stick with the state. if you're tom's not been tested, remain on bottled water. there is absolutely clear evidence that that product is still increasing in rivers and waterways. and we are working to clean that up. but i think what you are hearing from the government is that drinking water is safe. >> well the drinking water is safe. and private wells, you all, are you working with fema to help test the well water? to ensure that the water is safe? how are east palestine residents who rely on well water getting their water tested? >> the water testing is being

led by the state of ohio. what the epa provide's support to that testing. and so if you have a private well that has not been tested, i am urging everybody to have their water tested by the state. with support from the federal government. >> before i let you, go mister administrator i have to note that my team did reach out to norfolk southern. because it seems to me that they need to answer some questions. they declined an interview, but they did point us to a statement that they released, and i want to put it up on the screen. saying this, we are here and will stay here for as long as it takes to ensure your safety and to help east palestine recover and thrive. mister administrator, who do you believe is to blame for the development and the aftermath? and if you name nor folks other, and if you believe it is norfolk southern, do you think their response has been adequate? >> well listen,, simone i don't want to get out in front of the investigation that the ntsb in the department of transportation is handling.

so i will let that stand on its own. what i can tell you is that i am holding norfolk southern accountable for the disaster that has occurred on their watch. and that we are going to use all of our enforcement authority to ensure that they foot the bill for cleaning up this mess. >> administrator regan, you have been a climate crisis champion, you have ringing the alarm throughout your career. and i for sure feel a little bit better that you are head of the va right now, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you for having us. >> absolutely, coming up, the major new declaration from vice harris as we approach the one year mark of russia's war in ukraine. >> the united states has formally determined that russia has committed crimes against humanity. >> those are serious words from

the vice president, we will get into limited to that means for american support for ukraine, next. but first, our bestie is, here my colleague richard lui with today's top news -- stories >> greetings to you, my, friend to the midwest, there thank you, simone. north korea firing an intercontinental ballistic missile today. it flew for 66 minutes as japan's government, secretary of state, -- stronger sanctions enforcement against north korea after this test. north korea had threatened strong action in response to south korea's announcement of upcoming joint military exercises with the united states. the u.s. military ended its search for two aerial objects shot down over alaska and michigan's lake huron last weekend. the u.s. northern command said the decision came after systematic searches that did not locate debris. officials also said debris collection from the chinese spy balloon off the coast of south carolina, that has ended to. and in mississippi, the suspect in the killing of six people fridays in custody. investigators are working on a motive here. the associate press saying the

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determined that russia has committed crimes against humanity. and i say, to all of those who

have perpetrated these crimes, and to their superiors, who are complicit in these crimes. you will be held to account. >> crimes against humanity. this is not a phrase that the united states utters lightly. but as you can see, vice president kamala harris did not mince words when she said that at the minute -- so pretty conscious more -- russia's war on ukraine. and amid fears that house republicans might waver in their support for continuing aid to ukraine. now, the vice president told nbc's andrea mitchell in an exclusive interview that the american people wouldn't let these atrocities stand. >> i know the american people, they feel a sense of moral outrage. and a sense of responsibility for our nation to stand with

the ukrainian people. >> my political panel joins me now to discuss. alexei mccammon is a political reporter for axios, and an msnbc contributor. rishi coalburg is a host of a rishi colebrook show on sirius xm. and rick wilson is a former republican strategist and cofounder of the lincoln project. welcome to you all >> okay, so in all of this conversation about ukraine and aid i thought it would be important to look at some of the recent polling. and there is a recent associated press in oh or seeds. interval it found that 37% of americans favor sending funds to ukraine. but 48% support sending them weapons. alexei, how do you think unsolved domestic issues are affecting american support for sending billions of dollars to ukraine. >> well, thanks for having, me simon. we just did a focus group with swing voters in michigan. so people who voted for trump

and then biden. and to your point exactly, a lot of their concerns were saying, you know, at the state of the union president biden was touting needs different economic successes. talking about jobs. and these folks from all over the state of michigan were saying, it is difficult for me to get a job so if i find a job it is not giving me a living wage. you, know the things that biden is saying, i'm not feeling them personally. so i think they are wanting, congress in washington, the president, to more directly address these issues that they are feeling and that are more tangible for them. whereas something like ukraine is a bit more abstract than when they are going into grocery stores and looking at their paychecks that re-two weeks. driving past gas stations. so i think it is really about wanting to see more. and the last thing i will say is that a lot of them are just unaware of what the biden administration has cut compost on those fronts. there is an information gap there too. >> it is why the president and vice president and cabinet going out across the country. repeatedly, it is critical. i think in the american people understanding it what exactly

has happened. when we talk about republicans on the issue of aid for ukraine, , i think there is a different of teen senate republicans and house republicans. senate republicans who are in attendance at the munich security conference. and they reiterated their full support for ukraine. including senator lindsey graham who has been staunchly for this aid from the beginning. he is also a member of the budget and appropriations committees. and here is what he said about additional aid for the country, take a listen. >> i am here to tell you that the weapons will continue to flow from the united states, the economic assistance that ukraine needs to stay in this fight will be there. i'm a republican, i promise you there will be bipartisan resolved to keep this assistance going. and there is bipartisan resolve to hold putin accountable. strong words from senator graham. rick, i would note, speaker mccarthy's absence was allowed

at the munich security conference. how concerned are you that support could waver amongst republicans even in the senate? >> it is not that i believe support could waver in the house, i believe that there is an active pro russia fifth column in the house right now. people like andy biggs and matt gates and paul gosar, marjorie taylor greene. these folks would like us to switch sides. they are not for ukraine. it should be made very clear that they have an agenda that is to see putin when. they don't want biden to have a foreign policy success. they don't want freedom to be on the march in the world. they are very culturally different than the republicans in the senate. many of whom still hold to the fundamental attempts that republicans used to believe in. about a strong international order. about the international rule of law. about the u.s. as a leadership in a series of global alliances that make us safer. so the house is a different cultural taken into these days. and there are an awful lot of people inside that maga caucus

who will eagerly burn these down if they can. i think they are going to run into a very difficult opposition, which mitch mcconnell and the rest of the senate republicans. but we should be really clear that the culture in the house has changed dramatically when it comes to foreign policy. >> i think that is absolutely correct, and rick i thought being for another country's sovereignty was something we could all agree on. i guess not. that not in this 118th congress. we played some clips from the vice presidents remarks this morning in munich. where she had that very strong assertion of the united states position here. and i think this is yet another high-profile moment on the world stage for the vice president. what did you make of her appearance at the security conference? >> all part of it was a little bit of, i told you so. because last year at this time i think at the munich security cam since she was warning about the plans that russia was having in terms of invading

ukraine. and now she is back giving the evidence and laying out the case that not only are they a threat, but they have committed unspeakable acts. so i thought it was incredibly strong of her, she pulled on the fact that she has that prosecutorial background. and so this isn't necessarily a political thing that she is trying to game out, it is laying out the case, laying out the evidence to try to get some more continued support and get some of the folks off the sidelines because as they point out during the conference, there is a good portion of the world that has not picked a side yet. >> ain't that the truth. >> i want to move on to some domestic issues. particularly the 2024 campaign is really ramping up when it comes to the republican primary. and obviously former president trump is in the race. former governor nikki haley is in the race. donald trump announcing that he is going to be taking a trip to east palestine to meet community members following the train development. alexei. donald trump's deregulated some of the railroads, like, how is

this is going to actually unfold? >> well, we have seen in the past that his bedside manner after things like natural disasters has not been the most comforting for folks feeling dealing with these different. things >> you mean the throwing paper towels and puerto rico? >> that is definitely one example that i am thinking of. and, you, know i think it is interesting because you know well, it seems like it could be a media play. i, mean his campaign has not been getting nearly as much attention as he wants. and as he has in the past. he knows that we all are covering this and focusing on this. and he thinks it gives him an opportunity to show leadership and get back into the conversation. but to your point, the visit could go any number of ways. and whether or not the people there want him is another question. >> well another question indeed, as i, noted the field is growing, former south carolina governor and former u.s. ambassador under trump nikki haley, she did announce her

candidacy for president this week. she has been making a claim that i think it goes directly against her old boss. but she doesn't name him. rick, i'm not even going to play this for. you she is talking about she doesn't get sideways, she kicks forward. rick, what do you think about that assertion? and then re-, see will have the last, weird because she did, kept mike pompeo this week. >> look, nikki haley is gonna come in third in her own home state when the primary starts. let's be realistic here. there is no hometown advantage anymore. ask jeb bush or marco rubio or ted cruz. they are all going to get swamped at the end of the day. this is essentially going to be a two person republican primary. as it shapes of right now. it really only one person as a strategic set of advantages that trump has, and that is trump. nikki haley can pretend all she wants to try to not say the tea word, but it haunts sir, and it is going to be around for this entire campaign. she is never going to get off of it. all of her media interest this week were uncomfortable disasters, i thought, because

-- >> i'm sorry, rick, i had to laugh. because as you are saying, this we have got photos up of nikki ailey with donald trump. she cannot escape the man. she cannot escape the man. we have to go, but rishi, i want you to write way in before we go. she doesn't kick sideways, she kicks forward, but she kept my pompeo who is expected to jump into the race as well? in the republican primary. >> well, you know, i think what we are going to see is nikki haley who is not willing to lose gracefully. because she is going to lose. so instead of losing with some dignity and integrity and trying to run as a moderate republican. as a person who values diversity. she is running right down the trump lane. and that is losing, gonna lose badly. and embarrassing. >> harsh words for nikki haley from this panel today, alexei mckibben, rishi coalburg and rick wilson, thank you very much. still ahead, folks, the tragic toll of this week's deadly mass shooting in michigan state university. we are going to have a survivor join me to share her story and

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resume classes on monday, some are wondering if it is too soon? if the school community needs more time to heal. so i am joined now by nadine beydoun, she is a junior at michigan state university, and nadine was in her dorm room when the shooting happened. nadine, first, let me just say that i am just grateful that you are willing to come and share your story. because this, this was traumatizing. so can you maybe start with you telling us how you were first alerted that a gunman was loose on campus? >> i was getting ready to study in my dorm. and i got phone calls from friends telling me to barricade, because there is a shooter that is moving from building to building. so that is what i did. >> and when you learned that shots were actually being fired what did you do? >> i called my mom immediately. and i told her there was a shooter, and that he is moving

around. >> what did your mother say when she received that phone call? i can only imagine having to call my mom with that call, what did she say? >> she, like, was horrified, she was more scared than i was. it seemed like she was screaming and crying. especially because she is an hour drive, she didn't know she could get to me on time. >> we actually have some pictures that you took from under your bed. you pushed your dresser up against a door. you barricaded yourself in the room. what else did you do? and how long were you barricaded in your room? >> i was barricaded in my room for four hours, technically. but for three and a half hours i was under the bed.

yeah, i stayed there up until we were given the okay to leave the dorm. >> so, on monday classes are set to resume. thousands of students on your campus have already signed a petition calling for on line or hybrid classes. so that folks don't have to go to campus. do you feel safe returning to campus? >> i feel like my community and my school and the students are being very, my professors are being very supportive. i feel like i just want things to,, is going to be hard but i think want things to go back to, you know the way that maybe halfway the way used to be. and it is never going to be the same. because it is hard to find safety or, you know, like, it

is hard to find, i don't know how to explain it. >> it's hard to find the words. but you do feel safe? >> yeah, and i feel like the community, everybody is being so supportive, especially, like, my professors are being super supportive. they gave most of them gave an online option as well, if we don't sealed safe leaving our dorms or if we don't feel safe leaving our houses. >> you know, nadine i am glad you feel safe. because there are a number of students and parents that say they don't know how they feel. to your, point they cannot find the words. there are some students who are protesting. who have protested at the state capital. they have been calling for changes to gun laws in michigan. . do you have thoughts about what needs to happen? what how do we make these mass shootings stop? >> i, there is definitely a

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our democracy, it isn't over, folks. in fact, it an important milestone this week with the partial release of a special grand jury report, investigating efforts to interfere with the 2020 presidential election in georgia. fulton county district attorney fani willis spent months making your, case even though the special grand jury did not have the power to issue indictments, it did weigh on how she might proceed. these recommendations will remain under wraps for now. but there were some revelations. jurors unanimously found, no widespread voting fraud took place in president biden's 2020 victory in georgia. i don't think we needed a grand jury to know that they told us. but this is the key right here. the report says a majority of the jurors will leave that one or more of the 75 witnesses may have lied under oath. again, it is unclear who the jury suspects, but the investigation obtained testimony from georgia election officials, trump lawyers and even united states senator lindsey graham who had this to say about his testimony and the

grand jury's suspicions. >> yes i'm very confident, i have no idea what they are going to. do i just -- >> you are confident he didn't perjure yourself? >> i am confident. >> members of the grand jury recommended he district attorney explore indictments on anyone who may have lied under oath. let's bring in our legal experts to discuss. shannon mccaffrey is the editor of grand jury coverage at the atlanta general constitution. and charles coleman is an msnbc legal analyst. and host of the charles coleman podcast. welcome to you both. okay, people are eager to see accountability here. shannon, based on the conversations that you are having, what is the -- do you have a sense of the timeline that we are looking at for potential indictments or other findings specifically from the georgia case? >> well that is the million dollar question, isn't it? as was said at a recent hearing -- she thought decisions on indictments would be imminent. later on one of our reporters

qatar in a hallway and asked her what imminent meant and she said legally eminent. not a reporter imminent. whatever that means. so we are hoping to see those soon. i think anyone who saw the brief release of information, you know, five pages, not even all of them filled. you, know left tantalizing clues for what is to come. but it really didn't give us a ton of information. so i would think in the coming weeks, but the person who knows that for sure is fani willis. >> and she is holding her cards close. there are not a lot of leaks out of that office. charles, a long these lines, we talk about accountability on the new york times recently published an op-ed saying that it is time for folks to prepare for a trump indictment, given what everyone has seen. charles, our presidents not supposed to be above the law? right? so is this the framing that we should have here. are they correct? >> i think they are correct, i

mean, like you said, simone -- >> why? >> well, it is because we are talking about not just to the indictment, but we -- saw very challenging logistics about what it is to find an impartial judge jury to try a former president of the united states. that cannot be overstated -- complexities what that, is to put together an impartial jury, to figure out a way to balance all of the media and outside issues that will come with unprecedented prosecution of a former president. all that goes into the line of a prosecutor when you are thinking about inviting him because, again, as i have said on this program in a number of different others, you cannot prosecute this president or former president and lose. it is political suicide. you absolutely have to be sure that you are going to win. and so when you are thinking about that, you absolutely are considering trodden exceed how that will play out. so it is not necessarily poor framing to consider in that way.

>> you know, charles, you changed my mind with that answer, because i did not think of it like that. and maybe you changed some other minds out there. well we will wait to see from fani willis. we are eagerly awaiting, shannon if you get new information you just call us up and let us know. i want to move to a different case. another filing and this is from elections software company dominion. this is about a defamation lawsuit against fox news. now dominion's filing includes transcripts of text messages. and emails that they say show on air personalities and executives at fox's highest levels or privately mocking claims that dominion interfered in the 2020 election. this is even though these were the same claims being pushed by fox news on the air. fox has denied the claims. folks can see the legal filings for themselves. fox has accused dominion's legal team of cherry-picking conversations and leaving it out of context. shannon, look, there is a high standard for proving defamation

in court. especially against media companies. but to me this filing seems damning. so what is your take? >> yeah, it seems to show that they knew what they were saying was false. and that is one of the cornerstones of defamation or libel. knowingly being fault. often that is hard to prove because it, you, know requires a state of mind. and it is hard to know somebody else's state of mind. in this case you have got actual tax which appear to show their state of mind. and you can see the difference between what they were saying to each other and what they were saying to the general public. there is a vast difference between those two things. >> charles, why didn't fox settle? why are we even here? >> i think that, you, know when you are in fox disposition, it is really about, let's see how long they can drag this out. i don't know how much money dominion, has but i know that fox news likely has a lot more than they do. so we are going to try to bleed them out for as long as we can. but with some of these new

revelations, simone, it wouldn't surprise me if they were more eagle eager to go back to the settlement table and have more different conversations. these aren't potential things that you want to put in front of a jury. china has already commented, it is something that would open and steal this case shot. so i think that we may see that conversation sometime in the future. >> all, right we will have to leave it there, shannon mccaffrey, thank, you charles coleman, thank you. when we come back, folks, my culture critics are joining me for the regroup, we haven't seen them in a while. so we are going to get into rihanna's future plans after her pregnancy reveal at the super bowl. and a lot more, stay with us. we should pay more than men for the same thing. or pay taxes for period products. here, we can ask tough questions, day or night. and here, we're actually heard. and because of that, we can focus on getting healthier together. together. here, healthier happens together. cvs health.

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creator of lee's lemonade, leah -- msnbc entertainment contributor chris witherspoon is also. here welcome to you both, chris, i hope you brought your teacup. look we have, let me just be very clear, i am not necessarily a member every honest navy, okay. but i would like to know if she has got a new bob coming. and we have been waiting for the music. rihanna told british vogue why she hasn't released a new project since her 2016 album called anti. and -- she said this. i have my ideas in my head, but i can't say the malatya. chris, what do you think? our -- >> rihanna said she has plans to put out an album this year at some. point but what she said was anti, and he was such a huge all bowman it came in 2016. you said it is her favorite work thus far. she and her mind still can't figure out how can she talk anti? how can she make music that sounds that good? that resonates not just with her but with her loyal fans --

out of the halftime show. -- >> effendi compact was there, yes. >> went up 800%. she sold five point $6 million in sales in just 12 hours. rihanna is not really here for the music the way she used to be. because she doesn't have to. be she is a billionaire. the richest female singer right now. and she is making them coins and she did so at the halftime show. no other artist has done this. >> she, again, you got me view views on the halftime show that the folks that watch the super bowl. so when it comes to this halftime show she gave a new -- she came out, gave a little bit. europe but it was at least 60 feet up in the air, might i add. and then she gave the girls, i am a little here to sing. i enjoyed the singing. but i will tell you that my mind was changed when it was officially confirmed that ariana was pregnant. because to me, that, and the performance made sense. what did you think? >> yeah, i, mean honestly a lot of people on the other night were arguing whether rihanna,

like, is this the standard rihanna performance. but i don't know, maybe girl reads from the islands. i was expecting a little, wine a little twist, a little something. it was a little plain for me, and i think she try to build around herself. >> but she was pregnant! leah, we don't know how many months she is, but the woman was pregnant. understanding that she is pregnant, now, i'm like, okay. i understand why we were just getting a little whatever. >> literally, that is all we got. there is been a lot of conversation, maybe i saw it on the fact that she could have sent sat to this one. oh maybe she could've done next year. after she did the other -- how the other baby. >> you know, what leah, the cordial corner is a place where all opinions are welcomed, even the unpopular ones on the internet. our ap or mentions. i want to move to one of my new least favorite. topics and i'm not talking about donald. trump i'm talking about these ugly big red boots. look at these on the screen. okay? several celebrities were posting photos on instagram with these mischief red boots. i am talking about low wayne,

seth rollins, even sierra, they have all hopped on the bandwagon. gentlemen, she had the boots in another color. i just think these boots are horrible! and not just because they look like publisher shoes. okay? but it just doesn't make sense. chris, i am not convinced that these celebrities are buying these shoes and showing them off without some incentive. what say you? >> i have to steve mighty right now because i am holding my feelings right now because when i saw those boots, simone, i said what any pop is nervous going? on who's halloween costume leftovers are we now turning into runway fashion. i think this always happens sometimes around fashion week. right now it is fashion week, right now in new york city. these came out sort of this week during fashion week. the news sold out hundreds if you dollars, 15 inches, 3.5 pounds. you are carrying them around with you on your angle. as i am not here for it. it feels like a fashion crime, not true. fashion where are the fashion stall? >> where are the fashions, honey? the boots in my eyes are absurd. and as one of my senior producers would say, this is the perfect example of how social media is coming down the

globe. ample okay, what is going on he, leah? first of all, would you buy the boots? >> oh, no. absolutely not. i feel, like honestly, i could make. them so that is a no for me. but i feel like celebrities when something insanely expensive comes out, they go, everybody says it is ridiculous but now that i am rachel i have the money to pay for it let me just where it's just because. because now we are about to see everyone wearing. these >> along those, lines i will just say these shoes are $350 and they are being re-sold on stop acts for thousands and thousands of dollars. i was googling them to show my team yesterday. and i was, like why are these big ugly red boots thousands of dollars? i guess there is something to be said about using your brand and your platform to sell the people things. something that i cannot say on the news. so we are just going to leave it there. liu henry, chris witherspoon, thank you both very much. and thank you both at home for watching symone on this saturday. i am simone sanders sounds and. you can catch me right here on

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>> good evening, and welcome to politicsnation. tonight's lead -- trials and tribulations. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> right now, it's been another busy week for me and the country, including the mass shooting that claimed the lives of three young people at