>> good morning. it is sunday, february the 19th. welcome to our new home at 10 am eastern. our show is celebrating three years on the air this weekend and we thank you for watching us this and every weekend. i'm ali velshi live in kyiv. the capital of ukraine where it is 5 pm. this coming friday, we will mark one year since russia's unprovoked invasion. i was in ukraine last spring in lviv in the west of the country. back now to see what's changed. would say the same and what's next for this war, for this country and for the global fight for democracy. one thing that remains the same since last year is that russia

continues to rain terror from the skies in the form of missiles, rockets, airstrikes and drones. both near the battlefield in the east of the country and far from the front lines. in places like tel aviv and right here in the capital city of kyiv. when something that is evident. the aerate siren to become a part of everyday life here. there been multiple air raid sirens each day. one of them about two hours ago. well most ukrainians have come to live with them, hearing them, acknowledging them and a largely continuing on with their day. from my team and me, in a fury sarah does go off during the show, we will need to immediately leave this location and relocate to a more secure place. if that does happen, my friend and colleague jonathan capehart is standing by in new york to pick up our coverage until i'm safe and said to rejoin. tomorrow, president joe biden is heading to poland were on tuesday, he will deliver remarks commemorating the anniversary of the invasion. since february of last year, the united states is committed around 30 billion dollars in aid for ukraine. u.s. officials tell nbc news to

expect another large military aid package for ukraine to be announced around biden's trip. in addition to potentially ten billion dollars in aid, to help the ukrainian government function. while in poland, biden would also meet with the polish president, andrzej duda and other eastern european leaders. yesterday, president duda says that he fears the war will not be over this time next year. that putin hopes to exhaust the west adding that if that is allowed to happen, he is convinced that russia will attack another state. due to meet those remarks at an interview with sky news on the sidelines of the munich security conference. vice president kamala harris was also in attendance about conference that she was perfectly clear about how the united states views russia's actions in ukraine. >> from the starting days of this unprovoked war, we have witnessed russian forces engage in horrendous atrocities and

war crimes. gruesome acts of murder, torture, rape and deportation. execution style killings. beatings. and electrocution. russian authorities have forcibly deported hundreds of thousands of people from ukraine to russia. including children. there is no doubt these are crimes against humanity. and i say to all those who are perpetrated these crimes and to their superiors who are complicit in these crimes. you will be held to account.

>> you will be held to account. this is not the first time or the second time that the united states has used this type of language regarding russia's barbaric actions in ukraine. notably, last april as the world watched in horror as the first images of civilian slaughter emerge from the just liberated keep suburb of bucha. president biden said that what took place constituted war crimes. that would mean putin was a war criminal. he called for a war crimes trial and so the atrocities amounted to a genocide. just a moment, i'll be joined by someone who have talked many times over the course of the last year. going back to the first days of the invasion. last february. -- remember the ukrainian parliament and a leader of the -- has personified ukrainian resilience. doing what must be done to defend her country and democracy itself. >> tell me about learning to use a gun. you have not fired a gun in your life. you are holding a fairly large

gun. are you prepared to use that gun? >> yes, i'm prepared to use it. in my resistance crew, we have people who fought before and who are experienced soldiers. they are training us newbies and i can tell you right away that most of these training is how not to harm anyone while you are just having begun. how to assemble and it's a symbol and clean it out. maybe 10% of how to actually shoot it. then how not to get bruises, et cetera. this is an important point for us to make sure that we are able to do whatever is necessary for our country. >> -- we talked so many times. good to see you in person. thank you for being with. us >> pleasure being here. thank you so much for coming. >> we've come a long way since those days for people across this country we're doing what you did. they were learning how to fire weapons. they were learning what to do in a raid sirens. people were treated the civil defense forces. we didn't know where we'd be in

a year. what are your thoughts today as we look towards 20 year at this. >> first of all, we did not know if we will have this day. if we will be here, we will be around. we are incredibly grateful. and here, we are standing with you in the square. there are many signs about ukrainian people made at the very beginning of the full scale invasion one of it is saying there are people of the world, to help us. and people of the world helped us and this is one of the reasons why we are able to have this day. for that i'm so incredibly grateful. >> you and i talked many times with the things we're asking for. in a matter which political party in ukraine, politics have been united and asking for the same things. in many cases, getting them. you've got a lot of stuff in the last month or so. you still haven't got to think that -- you've got weapons to shoot missiles down. you intercept a lot of missiles that are shot. you are still looking for air support. you're looking for airplanes. >> absolutely. we need a fighter jets.

we need them not because we like fighter jets or we just want fighter jets. for us, it's a matter of life and death. you have been under the raid siren. you know how it scary it is that you don't know where the missile hits. you know it'll hit nearby. you don't have too many chances. this is why side of the air defense system that we have right now. we need another layer protection. the fighter jets. all people in ukraine who are not fighting in the front who are living their lives and helping the friend will know that they are much more protected. there are chances to have another year and another year are much higher. this is why we needed. this is where we definitely need to defend our skies. >> what happens next in this for. we've heard a talk about a russian invasion. we're not sure that they can mobilize the troops that they're looking for. they're going to try. if automations not wanna get to this coming friday and not have much more to show for it. >> it's critical for him because since october, he did

not have any battlefield winds. whatever they were doing since that time, we're basically committing more and more terrorist attacks on our territory, killing more and more people. it was not something that you could show up and wave as a victory. this is why everybody is so concerned of what is he going to do next. he gathered a really good army. but what they are doing, they're using people as battlefield meet. something that we cannot do and we will never do. this is why the struggle becomes more complicated. the strategy, david versus goliath, makes us to fight harder makes us to be more modernize, makes this to be smarter and of course, have more sophisticated weapons. this is one of the reasons why we are asking for them. this is one of the means that we have to show up against the horrid that is coming to destroy us and kill everything that we love. >> some people who described this as a war of attrition. where the russians will throw everything they got at it. lots and lots of people including prisoners. ukrainians continue to die.

some estimates 30,000 civilians in this country have died as a result of this war. this is not a war you wanted. does that change the spirit? that change the desire to keep these going without a negotiated settlement? >> elie, what is our other choice right now? if you would not be fighting. we have been to bucha, we have seen the atrocities on what happened there. we have seen what happened to people in -- mass murder graves were found and also the torture rooms. we know it's a -- matter of our existence. physical existence. we are fighting for it. for our motherland, for our ability to define our future. but also of our ability to have another year that we will be able to meet with you here. >> one of the points that you in others make when you are in europe or at munich or talking to the world is that this could become your faith. you heard president due to poland say if this is another year, than russia might feel strong enough to target another

country. >> absolutely. it is a war of attrition. putin's hope is that the democratic unity will not remain, that countries will start sliding apart in that he will be able to push forward. everybody is talking about what do we do so we can push russia back. nobody is talking about what would happen if we lose. we do not want to think about that. let's keep it always in mind that if we don't have another support right now, not in a year or two or five, right now. it is possible that putin may succeed and that he will go forward. he was very clear about that. he's rebuilding russian empire. this is why nobody safe right now. this is why what we are doing is being a shield for the whole democratic world. we are ready to do it. give us the weapons that we can do the effectively inside we can win. >> the concern for germany with those tanks that the russians will know that these are nato tanks and all know that russia is at war with nato. their concerns about the chance that you can play those jets

into russian target -- targets within russia that'll become a bigger war. what do you say to people who have that criticism? >> what is the other choice? this is the first question? nobody, again, is talking about what would happen if russians horrid will push forward. second question is we are fighting to defend ourselves. we are fighting literally for our own lives. this is why we are asking for something, it is to protect our people to be able to continue our normal lives as we go. if we have to push russia back and destroy their military stations inside russia, it is again for our protections they cannot push forward and march forward on us. everybody knows -- everyone know it would be nato -- what people are afraid of when everybody saying putin will escalate further. how further could de-escalate? he already committed every single word crime in the war

crimes list. his army already cannot beat ukrainian army. so what are you afraid of that he's marching towards poland? no, he will have to fight us. and we are saying he will not pass if we will have enough of the weapons and supplies. >> they will not pass ukraine if the world gives you what you need. kira rudyk, good to see you in person. may we meet next year but hopefully not under air raid siren. ms. >> in peaceful ukraine, in victorious ukraine. >> thank you for being with us. >> glory to ukraine. >> kira rudyk is a member of ukrainian parliament and leader of the holiest party. coming up, gonna talk to the former united states ambassador to ukraine. maria yovanovitch relevant americans not do in 2014 that could've prevented this war and how americas insurrectionists ex president made things much worse. and what's needed right now to end this brutal invasion. and we see news chief foreign correspondent richard engel will join me live from kramatorsk in eastern ukraine. even reporting from the friend.

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i'm or you show today live from kyiv, ukraine. i want to turn for a moment to u.s. news. the carter center has not said after a quote serious a short hospital states, former president jimmy carter has opted not to receive further medical treatment. and has intended to instead to spend his final days at his home with his family receiving hospice care. and 98 years old, carter is the oldest living former president. although we only served one term, his legacy extends far beyond his time in the white house. perhaps no other president has had such an effective post presidency is carter. the year since leaving office, as a diplomat and a humanitarian. in 2002. the nobel committee awarded him with that year's peace prize for quote his decades of entering effort to find peaceful solutions to

international conflicts, to advance democracy and human rights and promote economic and social development. back in 2013, after red boarded a flight to new york's kennedy airport henri to cover the funeral of nelson mandela i, looked out for my seat to see president carter standing in front of me. facing me. we proceeded to discuss nelson mandela until the flight staff and his security detail insisted that he take his seat. then we spoke more during the long flight and i asked him if we could continue the conversation on tape. after we landed in johannesburg. he said to give him a 30 minute head start and then meet him at his hotel. here are some of what he told me during the following hour long conversation we had about how his upbringing in a predominantly black community near planes, georgia, shaped his worldview. >> as i grew older and ran for the state senate and ran for governor, i saw the devastating impact of racial discrimination on not only black neighbor's lives but also the white peoples lives in my community. when i became governor in my

eight-minute inaugural speech, i said the time for russell's cohen's over. it was such remarkable statement, in two weeks i was on the front cover of time magazine just because i said that. by the time i got to be through my governorship and into the white house, i resolved that the civil rights commitment in home and the mistakes of america should be expanded on a global basis. i should be a champion of human rights. >> nbc's priscilla thompson joins me now from planes, georgia. the town where former president carter was born and currently lives. priscilla, good morning to you. what's the latest on the former presidents condition? >> good morning. ali, the former president is here at his home. just a short distance from where we are. as you mentioned, he is receiving about hospice care. of, course the family said that this is a decision that the former president made after a

series of short stays in the hospital. they did not go into detail about why he had been hospitalized during those times. they share that he decided he wanted to be home with his family during these remaining days. we also heard from the grandson of former president carter who share that he had just visited with his grandfather a few days ago and he said that the carters are quote at peace and as always, their home is full of love. we know that the current president, president biden, has also been in touch with the family here. we also saw the secret service tweeting about this, saying, quote, we will forever be by your side. we're seeing those tributes already. we spoke to some people here in this community who have a liken this to the experience that you have with a grandfather. we're at 98 years old, they knew that this time was coming and so there is a sense of peace about this.

that is something that the former president himself shared as we know in his 80s, he was diagnosed with melanoma. in his liver and its spread to his brain. he miraculously was able to defy the odds through treatment. he spoke about what that somewhat near death experience was like. i want to play some of what he shared about that. take a listen. >> i just thought i had a few weeks left. but i was surprisingly at ease. i had a wonderful life, thousands of friends. i've had an exciting in adventurous, gratifying existence. >> of course, he did do so much in his lifetime. he served as one term as president but he worked around the world on issues of peace and human rights. he also made time to volunteer here once a year with habitat

for humanity. he returned to planes, georgia, after he left the white house and he would teach sunday school at his church here. really, has had so much of an impact on this community and certainly people thinking of him and praying for him today with this news that he is now under hospice care. ali. >> priscilla, thank you for your reporting. we'll stay very close to you from the story. priscilla thompson is in planes, georgia. when we come back, millions of ukrainians have fled the country throughout the course of this war. they're still millions who are the did not or could not make the same choice. many of them live near the front lines. nbc's richard engel. chief foreign correspondent joins me next to talk about why some of this people remain at home despite the destruction that is unfolding around them.

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edition of velshi live from kyiv, ukraine. over the last year, we've shown you video and firsthand accounts of how devastating russia's invasion of ukraine has been. millions of ukrainians have had to uproot themselves in their families and leave their homes without looking back. children have been forced to grow up all too fast. innocent people have been living in constant fear of what's to come. here in kyiv, the capital, ram today, despite the aid sirens of sono several times each day, there is some semblance of normal -- if you travel eastward to the front lines of this war, it is anything but peaceful. nbc news is she foreign correspondent richard engel has been near the front line in the donbas region. speaking to people who did not or could not flee amid the war. now they're only objectives to try and stay alive. richard engel joins me now, in the eastern city of kramatorsk, ukraine, which is located in the donetsk oblast in the donetsk region. richard, good to see you. tell us about the people you federally and how they are learning to deal with this for the continues to unfold right around them. >> first of all, it is good to

see you back in ukraine. i'm so happy that you came back. that some people are highlighting this conflict that has been going on for a year now. i think it's important for our viewers to understand what is happening here. it is not over so. much is at stake. not just in ukraine but around the world. you started setting up a system of the geography. if i could just continue on that a little bit because you need to understand a little bit of how the battle works out to understand where people are going. fleeing from. where they're going to. a year ago, almost exactly a year ago, a year ago on friday. the russian troops try to take over this entire country. they were airstrikes on kyiv and columns of tanks were storming across the country. there was an attempt to topple the government quickly in one lightning blitz everywhere in across the crane, all at once. russian troops came down from

belarus in the north of that came from the east, from the mainland. they came up from occupied crimea. that offensive failed. over the last -- over the course of the year, we've been watching the russians, watching the ukrainian troops drive back russian forces. pushing them away from the capital. pushing them out of the -- parts of central ukraine and really pushing them back to a frontline area. out here in the east in the south. now, vladimir putin is almost three starting the war. he tried and failed in his first attempt to capture ukraine. now that his forces have been turned back to the frontline area, not far from the russian border, he's trying a second offensive. he's pouring in troops. he's pouring in mercenaries. he's pouring in weapons to try in a very destructive campaign advance this front line from the east to the west with his hope to eventually get all the way back to kyiv. it's a different kind of war.

that means out here in the east, some people have stayed. they have -- they stayed in their homes because they have nowhere else to go. they have personal reasons. they don't want to leave. now that this advance is slowly encroaching upon them. some of the local authorities are going house to house and telling people you gotta go. i know you want to stay. i know you're brave but the advances just coming and it's coming to your doorstep and it's time to move on. we want to one from a village and we've got people who couldn't bring themselves to leave. >> russia pounded ukraine again today. and its forces are advancing around the city of bakhmut. the main target of the kremlin's new offensive. parts of the nearby town are now being closed off. mostly, it's the elderly who stayed behind. some tell us they are resigned

to what faith will bring. >> the mayor is not. he's urging people to evacuate now. >> how are people here able to live with all of this fighting? >> stay outside as little as possible. stay in the basement, he said. there is no safe place in this town. olga selina is 50 and a cafeteria cook. she hears out the mayor's team. olga seems torn. she showed me why. her third year old son, the tally, is nonverbal with a neurological condition. >> hi, i'm richard. very nice to meet you. >> he seems terrified. and the bombings are triggering his seizure. is olga says he gets upset moving. they've already moved twice to escape russian shelling. >> she says she doesn't want to leave, just not yet. she wants to give it another day or two to think about it. not sure if that such a great idea. >> some say war stops time. but really, it speeds it up. with the decisions of life and death every day. >> people across eastern

ukraine are facing those life and death decisions. now that russia has launched a renewed offensive. a second chance to take over this country. people who have been here for a year or have to decide are they going to risk it. are they going to stay here or are they going to pull back to some areas that are closer to kyiv then for the moment are safer. >> i want to talk to you for most about the activity, the kinetic nature of the war in that story just did. something went off some artillery fire. we were, as you know, about 42 kilometers from you with the other day in a little town where they had said no rockets had ever hit. as we arrived, that night, there were three rocket landings right in the neighborhood. this war is getting more serious. it's getting more active as he said. russia feel against relaunching this for. what do you make of that? >> this is really the second war.

when people ask me how is the war going? i said we're now in a new war. the first war was a mulligan by vladimir putin. he thought perhaps with too much hubris at this and be a walk over. that his troops would go in and in a matter of days, capture kyiv. russian soldiers brought dress uniforms with him because a rip planning to have celebrations and victory parades. they brought policing kind of equipment because they thought they were gonna to deal with crowds and crowd control in kyiv. apparently, had not dawned on anyone that the ukrainians would fight and fight hard to preserve their country which russia has said, and putin has said, does not and should not exist and it's really just a breakaway region of russia which must be brought back into the fold. it must be brought here. now, after his first campaign failed, he's launching this new offensive and it seems to be an offensive that's moving from the east, slowly, very slowly, very destructively and trying

to gain ukrainian territory inch by inch. russia is losing a lot of personnel. both soldiers and mercenaries had been brought in for this fight. it is a destructive campaign. one that is depleting the ukrainians resources. they're running out of ammunition because the russians are firing so much at ukrainian cities in ukraine said to fire back. they only have so much anti aircraft weapons and they only have so many pieces of artillery. it is a tough fight. it is a different fight that the ukrainians are engaged and now then the war that they faced a year ago. >> here is that a very common sound. you have an air raid siren above you now. >> this is common. this is common in kyiv, it is common in the east. it is something that is obviously served on purpose. to alert people that there

could be incoming rounds coming. coming their way. many people here or spend the night in basements, beneath their homes. a lot of people have already left these areas. i'm not right on the front line right now. that story, you played a few minutes ago, it was more or less right on the front line. right on the edge of bakhmut where there is active combat all day long, incoming rounds, all day long. here, we're about an hours drive from that city. occasionally, there will be a chilly coming in. occasionally, there will be artillery rounds going out. it's not the same kind of constant exchange of fire that you see along the front line. even here, not much is open. not many people are here. it is a highly militarized area. people who are here, some of them will sleep in their homes. others choose to sleep beneath their homes in basements. when you get right in the front line. there are thousands of villages that are along the front line because the entire frontline runs for about 800 miles.

we're talking about thousands of little villages that are right on the front line. people there have either gone or they're trying to stay inside as much as possible. because every day there, it's a question of life and death. >> richard, you are burn what needs to an important moment in history. we thank you for that. nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel in kramatorsk, ukraine. richard, stay safe, my friend. veteran putin has made his goal to weaken or destroy the nato military alliance. his actions and we continue to actually make nato stronger. some important lessons from history next on velshi. we're coming to you live from kyiv, ukraine. before we go, i want to talk about when ukraine who story of and following closely for the past year. as you know, i spent lot of time in ukraine in poland and hungary last year. speaking with ukrainians of all stripes from govern officials like ages 4 to 2 ordinary people who are fleeing russian aggression. one of the most memorable interviews i did was of the remarkable young girl named nastasiya -- who after fleeing the violent and landing in poland spent her

time they're hoping hundreds of other refugees find safety. from there, she and her mother and her older sister went to the uk's of the girls continue their schooling. nasty is now back in ukraine and reunited with her family and i just returned from visiting hometown where richard is right now. interviewing now center father. we're near that conversation in for next weekend. here are some of what she told me about life as a teenager during this war. >> are you gonna get your childhood back? are you gonna be a kid again? >> i think no. i don't have time to be a kid. my mom doesn't speak english at all. i'm the only one who speaks english. even visa. it was me. (screaming) defeat allergy headaches fast with new flonase headache and allergy relief! two pills relieve allergy headache pain? and the congestion that causes it! flonase headache and allergy relief.

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expressed a knew he had old complained. that nato is getting too involved in the conflict with ukraine. the kremlin spokesperson called nato hostile and said the military alliances quote trying its best to make its involvement in the conflict around ukraine as clear as possible, and quote. russia's fuming over the increased military aid that's coming to ukraine from either countries. specifically advanced battle tanks that have been sent by the united states and germany. none of this should come as any surprise to russia. nato has consistently supported

ukraine over the last year of unprovoked warfare. not to mention with the possibility of ukraine joining nato which triggered russia's invasion in the first place. to truly understand the geopolitics of this current conflict is to understand the long and brutal history of the soviet union, the creation of nato and the warsaw pact. goes back a century to the 1920s after the russian monarchy was abolished as a result of the russian revolution. a socialist government was formed. there was essentially a civil war. the pro communist red army prevailed. in 1922, the union of socialist soviet socialist republics. the ussr was formed out of russia, ukraine, by yellow russia, armenia, azerbaijan and georgia. vladimir lenin was as leader. it became most powerful nations in the world and the biggest in the literal sense, occupying nearly won six of the earth's land mass. over the years and especially through the merely after world war ii, the ussr crew. it added even more countries and territories.

joseph solitude the helm in 1924. he would lead the ussr for three decades. world war ii began with an agreement between hitler and stalin to carve up much of eastern europe between german and soviet spheres of influence. less than two years into that deal, hitler broke the packs and invaded the soviet union. stolen worked with the u.s. to liberate not see held country sun eastern europe. as the soviets deliberated nation after nation, it began to install their own communist governments. claiming the land as her own unsettling ethnic russians in a non-russian speaking countries. at the war stand, the u.s. and the uk had feared the global spread of communism so in 1949, the united states, canada and ten european allies formed the north atlantic treaty organization, nato. nato was formed in 1949 with the solo intention of providing collective security against an expansion of soviet union. the foundations of the alliance were laid down with the signing of the north atlantic treaty.

more popularly known as the washington treaty. the treaty reaffirmed the inherent right of independent states to individual war collective defense. collective defense is really at the heart of the treaty. it's an trying to an article five which permits members to protect each other. if one data members attacked, the other nato members must respond as if they were attacked. after westshire me with some it'd into the nato in may of 1955, the soviet union scrambled to set up a counter weight to the giant western military alliance. the soviet union along with delegates from hungary, romania, east germany, czechoslovakia, bulgaria, albania and poland which of the time we're all communist countries under the sway and sponsorship of the soviet union signed the warsaw pact in warsaw. it was the anti nato. the warsaw pact even had a clause that mirrored nato's article five. saying that an attack on any of its nations would be considered an attack on all. the warsaw pact endured for over 30 years for the 1989 as

the berlin wall came down and communist governments across eastern europe began to fall with it. one by one, countries love the warsaw pact until it was formally dissolved in 1991. nato, the greatest military alliance in the history of the world picked up the slack. every single worst affect country ultimately joined nato. nato started with 12 members of 1949. today, the alliances 30 member nations strong. ukraine is notably not a member. russia's been trying to prevent nato from accepting ukraine because russia sees ukraine as its own land border protecting it from nato expansion from the west. over the past year, nato has united behind ukraine, almost as if ukraine is an honorary member of the alliance. this may just be the strongest nato has been in its nearly 80 years of existence. putin's plan to occupy ukraine and we can nato seems to have backfired. when >> >

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ukraine, kyiv. it is a stunningly beautiful city. it does not always look like this at night. for many weeks, we've novelists off in the city because of first of all the danger of airstrikes. also because of cuts to atrocity. a lot of airstrikes of hit infrastructure in this country. to see the skyline of kyivhing a lot of people are celebrating. in a country that it's hard to find things to celebrate a year into thiswar. as you walk around the city, you can see the ongoing war is taking a toll on people. villages and historic locations have been reduced to rubble by constant shelling. ever since the russians started their full scale assault on the country, i've been speaking to lawmakers and civilians at their experiences here on the ground. really hard to put all of this

into words. here are some direction i had with a member of ukrainian parliament. you have -- in poland back in march. >> it's hard for you. i can see that is hard for you. you're watching the images of what's going on in your country and it's hard to process. >> i'm not watching images. maybe part of the world's watch is like a movie but. if you watch it like a movie, than this movie has to be a happy and. what we teach to our children that the basic rule that the good has to defeat evil. has to win. the structure of the whole, our system, our democratic world. we need help to defeat this evil. >> that is what yevheniya kravchuk told me nearly a year ago. in the early days of this war. she joins me now in front of this city that looks quite beautiful for the moment peaceful tonight.

it's not. >> yes, because you have on our back -- more than 1000 years old. on our front, we have a whole bunch of junk russian tanks that were destroyed by ukrainian army. we have this exhibition on the square. just to remind us that russians will be kicked out. all of their tanks and whatever they bring will look like that. >> you and i, when we met in poland, i was coming east into ukraine. you are going west. you are going to the united states to try to rally for more help. your daughter was still here in ukraine. >> she is still here. >> she was waiting for you to come back with news that america will help. what's changed? >> probably just what we ask about this held. we already got -- probably the most popular type of weapon in ukraine. everyone, a child knows what is a himars.

now, we got this tanks. now, every child would tell you that we need to have an f 16. >> you have, it's been such a constant effort to try and get the west to do this. it has happened. in each time it's happened, there seems to be aligned with these of 16. do you think that that line will crumble and that'll get them? >> i really do believe we will get them eventually. it's very important start training before the -- decision will be taken. the training will take some time. until the time we get the jets our pilots will know how to fly them. that's, i think, very important. we also have this political decisions being taken on artillery and system such as himars and then on tanks. every time, you know, the decision was taken so we believe there is very high possibility of it. f-16 will be flying in ukraine by ukrainian pilots. to get liberate our land.

that's. it >> a year ago, there was concern that ukrainian military may not be up to facing the russian military. we'll be able to use all this equipment anyway. where are we now? now you're talking about ukrainians haven't flown f-16s. two guys flew mig jets. you're going to train ukrainian pilots to fly a completely new technology. but the last year has demonstrated that ukrainians seem to be able to learn any weaponry they're given. >> your life depends on that. you have to learn really fast. our pilots are making incredible planes. incredible things on this old soviet era jets. imagine what they do on a new jet. >> what is your sense of where we are right now. this is coming up to one year on this for. you, as members of parliament, spent a lot of time in your trying to make sure that your european partners are staying committed to this fight. what happens next? what's the next step in this thing after we mark a year of this for? >> of course, we believe that

2022 will be victorious for ukraine. when we have enough of equipment to do this big counterattack. to get the rest of the south. we already do that with kherson, one kharkiv region. you can see those pictures and videos. people crying when they saw ukrainian soldiers coming into kherson kharkiv region. the same thing. -- other places that are waiting until occupied. also, we have to understand that it's not just -- doesn't stop with military victory. also has to go further with tribunal for political and military leadership of russia. and also for ukrainian reconstruction. using also frozen russian assets to rebuild our country. we've shown these videos how many city's look like. they look like after world war ii. literally. not just this final help to

push russians away. but also they have to pay for what they did. both in tribunal but also with the reconstruction. >> everybody in this country is, civil defense. you still are people when you got this little daughter. >> i've heard this segment when you talk about the teenager, how teenager is live. no longer we had saint valentine's day. she went to school but there was an error siren again. when the air siren, they had to go to a bunker to a basement. and she brought together from home this little heart. and they decorated bunker. because eventually the war, you have to live your life. >> maybe not have to decorate bunkers for next valentine's day. >> i really hope not. that she will have a normal next year, childhood.

>> let's hope so. good to see you again. i'll see you next in new york. yevheniya kravchuk it's a member of parliament and the deputy leader of the liberal centrist servant of the people party. -- talk to the former -- ambassador to ukraine, marie yovanovitch. she had a front row seat to america's former presidents fraud in ukraine. we are gonna ask for the role that may have played in this for. another hour of velshi live in kyiv, ukraine begins after this quick break. quick break. age is just a number, and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health

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