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politicsnation. tonight's lead profiles in courage. on this presidents day weekend, two of our commanders in chief one current and one former are facing perhaps their greatest challenges in politics and in life. tomorrow, president biden will travel to poland where he will mark the one year anniversary of mush russia's invasion and war in ukraine. calls for ukraine's allies to stay the course. as the u.s. accuses russia of crimes against humanity in ukraine and the republican majority in the u.s. house threatens to curtail the billions of dollars in aid that
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has gone to ukraine. now going into a second here in here at home the earliest electoral challenge in our materializing. on the republican side, former republican south carolina governor nikki haley has joined donald trump in pursuit of the gop nomination in 2024. and 2020 democratic contender marianne williamson is expected to make her own announcement that she is running for the white house again. she would be the first democrat to challenge president biden thus far. the country is wrestling with the news that our 39th president jimmy carter has decided to receive hospice care at home this weekend at the age of 98. president biden has been briefed on carter's hat. biden hasn't been one of the senate's earlier supporters of carter's campaign for
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president. i was just a young activist when president carter took office. i've always appreciated his grace and our actions over the years. my thoughts and prayers are with his family. we start this evening with senator ben cardin, democrat of maryland. senator, first of all, thank you for joining us this evening. it's perfect time to have a member of the senate foreign relations committee with us. so, this is right ahead of president biden's trip to poland tomorrow. he will speak to the world and ukraine's nato allies from the same location he did last year when he told the world that russian president vladimir putin could not remain in power. as the war enters the second tier, he must now contend with the republican majority in the house that has threatened to end unequivocal aid to ukraine as this war drags on.
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your thoughts on that and the upcoming anniversary of this war, senator. >> reverend sharpton, it's good to be with you. president biden has shown tremendous leadership globally and helping the ukrainians defend themselves. i don't think anyone thought that we would have this type of unity that is continuing now as we enter the second tier of this unprovoked attack by russia on ukraine. we saw president biden provide the necessary help to the ukrainians to defend itself. i must tell you, at the munich security conference this week, we saw unity among both the and republicans that were there saying that we do need to continue to support ukraine in these efforts. i would acknowledge we have challenges in the house of representatives on the republican side. this is not a time for us to weekend in our defense of ukraine. there are frontline of democratic states. >> let me ask you another
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foreign relations question, senator. last week the u.s. has called off its search for several aerial objects shot down earlier this month. these unidentified objects dominated the news for a few days when they were first -- president biden play down any link between these objects and the chinese surveillance balloon shot down off the south carolina coast earlier this month. still, the incident added to tensions between the u.s. and china. what can you tell us about the conversations you had in the senate on the foreign relations committee regarding the spy balloon or any of these unidentified objects. should people be concerned about the security of our airspace? >> i think the fact that we were able to discover the balloon and take down this by balloon indicates that we are ahead of the curve in defending our national security. there is no question that china
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violated our airspace. they were using it for spying purposes. we were able to track it and shoot it down. make sure it could not compromise our national security. i think this demonstrated that the united states can defend its borders. i think the -- the other flying objects, we don't know enough about it. it might have been just innocent use of space where they shouldn't have been. it could have jeopardize the safety of commercial flights. so, the president did the right thing to make sure that public safety was prevailed. >> you announced this weekend that maryland has received five point $1 million from the safer communities act. the bipartisan gun control package that passed in a senate over the summer. that money will go toward gun violence prevention in your state. senate democrats this week reintroduced the bill that would expand federal background
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checks for all gun purchases in the aftermath of the shooting at michigan state university last week. can we expect to see this senate where democrats have a very narrow majority passed more gun control legislation in this next two years? this next tw>> first, let's applied the passage of the safer communities act. the first time in over a decade you're able to pass gun safety legislation. it will have an impact, you can see right now, money coming to baltimore and maryland to help in regards to violent crime. we also are providing help to our schools to deal with behavioral health issues. so, that was an important first step. it is a first step. we need to do a lot more. i agree with senator murphy's. bill in regards to background checks. i also support abolishing these assault weapons. there's a lot of things that we can do to make it safer for our community. we have too many guns on the
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street. we need to continue to pursue sensible gun safety legislation. i know we are going to try to do that. i will be perfectly frank about it. i don't have a lot of confidence that the house of representatives will advance gun safety legislation. >> senator, we thank you for being with us. before i let you go, i want to bring in my next guest. the governor of maryland, wes moore. i know you both want to tell us why you think it's very important that the new fbi headquarters be built in your state of maryland. you and the state of virginia have just over a couple of months to make your final pitches to the general services administration. so, very quickly, maybe 30 seconds each. tell us why it should go to maryland. senator, you first, and then governor more. >> first, i am excited to be on with governor more. he's providing great leadership and maryland. prince george's counties the right place. it's the best value for the
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taxpayers, it's the right location so the fbi can carry out -- it's also about basic fairness. prince george's county has been denied the types of a federal facilities that the other areas around their have had. this is the right decision for the fbi. it's the right decision for the taxpayers. it's the right decision in regards to social justice. >> governor, -- >> the senator is absolutely right. i think him for his leadership on this. this is a legacy defining decision for this white house. for a white house that's been so focused on ensuring that there is fairness and equity in the way these decisions are made. the clear answer really is prince george's county. also, when you think about the fbi, their current mission and increasingly their future mission is going to be around cyber threats. if you think about the state of maryland, the state of maryland is a home of the nsa, the state of maryland as a home of sign or command.
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the university of maryland, it is home of four of the best hbcus in this country. so, there is a workforce pipeline. when you include that with the transportation that prince george county has, when you included for the fact that we will beat any other jurisdiction on cost and you include it and you include that with the administration's commitment to equity, the true decision is going to be prince george's county. we feel very good that the decision for the fbi to be in the state of maryland aligns deeply with this legacy defining decision that the federal government is about to make. >> all right, we thank you both on that. thank, you senator cardin. let's stay with governor more. governor, on wednesday president biden was in your state touting how his economic friends have helped create 12 million new jobs. more than any other president has created in four years. marilyn's unemployment rate decreased to 4% in december.
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how are the biden administration's policies impacting your state specifically? >> well, the fact that the pro president biden in the past two weeks has been to the state of maryland twice has been huge. the first time was when he came in baltimore and announced the joint investments that we're making. it's going to be responsible for 30,000 jobs. 30,000 jobs in the state of maryland and then being down here in prince george's county where we are talking with our union with a union hall talking about the importance of making sure these are strong union jobs. if you look at maryland's economy, the truth is over the past eight years, the u.s. economy has grown by 23%, gdp has grown by 23%. during the same period of time, maryland has grown by 11. our economy is not keeping pace with where the national economy is moving. that's why these partnerships
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that we have with the federal government, that's why the strong relationships that we have with the white house is so important to maryland and for this to beat marlins decade, it means we are and we will continue to move in partnership with the biden administration in order to make that happen. >> let's turn now to a former governor who has entered the 2024 presidential race. nikki haley has become the first major challenger to her former boss donald trump on the republican side. what qualities do governors present that would make them a good president? i know you are focused on being governor now. you and i have talked for a long time. running for president in the cards, is that for you some time, governor lewis? >> i love being the governor of maryland. governors have an ability to get real things done very quickly. i think about in this first, in the first three and a half weeks that i've been the
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governor of maryland, we have been able to on a day one release $69 million that's focus exclusively on things i was making sure there's an equitable rollout for the cannabis industry. making sure we had three and a half million dollars of previously on released funds that went toward supporting abortion providers. when i say that marilyn will be a safe haven for abortion rights, reporting an actual budget behind the to show what it looks like. in our first executive order, we are able to create an apartment of service and civic innovation where we are now creating a pathway for every maryland high school senior to be able to have a year of service after they finish high school. by putting together an executive order that's actually ordering all of our agencies and departments to be able to report on their minority business enterprise, women branches enterprise, veteran bridges enterprise schools. when we have a 29% goal the state of maryland, we plan on hitting those goals. our ability to be able to create economic pathways for work, wages and wealth. we are able to show in the
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first weeks what that looks like and actually have a balanced budget to reinforce it. that's what people are looking for. from their governors. i think here in the state of maryland, we are able to deliver on that and deliver on that quickly. >> you answered why governors may have a distinct way of running for president. you totally avoiding me whether it was in the cards for you. i just want to stipulate that. i want to switch gears to the executive order you signed this week were crying state is used to report data concerning maryland's minority business enterprise program in an effort to increase participation for -- state government contracts. in 2013, the states set a 29% goal. it has never reached that level. how do you plan to attack this goal differently than what has been tried and passed? >> i actually being intentional.
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the challenge we had, we had a 29% goal in the state of maryland. if you have a goal that you come nowhere near hitting with out forms of accountability, it's not a goal anymore. it is a suggestion. the state of maryland has had a 29% suggestion when it comes to emmy e. participation. what we are doing by laying this out and by extracting the cabinet secretaries and saying this is the goal. tell us where you are. tell us the challenges you had in getting their. what you plan on doing in order to fix it. they now know that we have a chief executive who is going to take it seriously. our ability to be able to create pathways for work wages and wealth. our ability will adjust the fact that maryland right now has an 8 to 1 ratio wealth gap that is hindering and harming all of us. the racial wealth gap has cost the country 16 trillion dollars in gdp, gross domestic product
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over the past two decades. and that's not a group, that's up in the entire country. so, by making sure that we are deliberate and intentional about being able to have participatory economics so all of these groups that have been historically been left out can now be included in this larger maryland story is something that they know that the governor take seriously. we will have all of our agency heads in cabinet secretaries who are moving towards accomplishing the. >> it's not just good for those communities and the company is, as you say, it's good for the country. it brings revenue back into it. thank you, governor wes moore for being with us. coming up, fighting for some turf. 2024 presidential hopeful rhonda santas is coming to new york to rally in one of donald trump's most loyal strongholds. first, my colleague richard lui with today's top news stories. d lu>> rob, good sunday to you.
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the white house says president biden is in touch with former president jimmy carter. carter is receiving hospice care. the president tweeted this afternoon, quote, jill and i are with you in prayer and sending our love. carter, 98, announced yesterday that after a series of hospital stays he want to spend his remaining days at home with his family. michigan state university resumes classes tomorrow. that's one week after a gunman killed three people and injured five others on campus. hundreds celebrated the lives of victims brian frazier, alexandria verner at two separate for mineral services yesterday morning. the motive still being investigated. the 43-year-old suspect was found dead hours after by suicide. low search and rescue efforts in turkey were halted today after that 7.8 magnitude her the talk that struck february 6th. the death toll in turkey and syria now standing at more 44,000. it is expected to still climate
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politicsnation. let's turn to my political panel for their insights on today's big stories. joining me now is former republican representative joe walsh of ellen oil and democratic strategist kurt bardella. tomorrow, florida governor ron desantis will be spending presidents'day by meeting with police unions in large blue cities such as new york city and in chicago ahead of the race. joe, what do you make of desantis is aligning himself with these police unions? >> game on, rather, came on. let's be clear, the republican
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party my former political party is clearly still the party of trump slash trumpism. i know we are a week into nikki haley, now seen her run for the republican nomination. she has no chance. republican voters want a son of a -- they want a jerk. they want an authoritarian. desantis is trying to steal that role from trump who has done very well with it. so, this is desantis going right at trump trying to see if he can come across as every bit the culture warrior that donald trump is. that's what republican voters want. >> kurt, florida's governor has definitely gotten into the head of former president donald trump. trump has been trying -- with a nickname for his potential rival. it won't be meatball run, trump said yesterday it would be inappropriate to use that nickname.
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imagine trump talking about what's appropriate. it feels as if trump is struggling to steal the spotlight back from desantis in recent months. what's your take on this? >> well, i can't imagine donald trump wanting to use a nickname like that given the fact that this is the same person who has a penchant for eating waters and big max all the time. so, that would boomerang back on him. that tells you how desperate donald is to try to even get attention this way. think about it, we are talking about the highest office in the land here. the conversation on republican side is, who can come up with the best nickname for something like that? i mean, if they really get that desperate, i think they can tune in monday night two w w monday night raw. this is about the dumbest conversation you could possibly have when it comes to politics, the presidency. we should expect nothing less from a republican khamenei nomination, the republican contest. it's a race to the bottom.
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if it comes down to who has the best or worst nickname, i don't think that's going to vote 12 republicans in 2024, rub. >> tomorrow, president biden will be heading to poland as he prepares to mark the one year anniversary of russia invading ukraine. the u.s. has formally determined that russia is guilty of crimes against humanity. a recent poll shows that support for sending weapons to ukraine is waning in the u.s.. down from 60% in may to 48% to date. joe, what challenge will biden have on the world stage and here at home to motivate people to continue the efforts in ukraine's fight against russia. >> rev, it needs to be said right at the outset that the president has done a masterful job up to this point of rallying the world and rallying this country in defense of
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ukraine. this makes sense, right? americans rightly don't like prolonged wars. this is going to be a challenge to the president to continue to make this case why this is so important to keep defending ukraine, especially now in the face of what could be just an awesome and terrible russian onslaught. ukraine needs help more now than they did even seven or eight months ago. president biden, who has done really well up to this point, rev., he's got to kick it into overdrive and make the case to the american people as to why this is so important to keep continuing. >> craig, the united states is concerned that china could soon provide russia with lethal aid in its war against ukraine. earlier today, secretary of state anthony blinken stressed to nbc news how important it is to maintain a good relationship with china. this comes as frustrations
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remain 15 days after the u.s. military shot down a chinese spy balloon that flew over the country. how well is the biden administration handling these mounting tensions with china? >> well, i think they're doing a very good job, rev, they're making very clear the unequivocal position of the united states. they've taken appropriate action, like shooting down the chinese spy balloon. i can't think of anything more harmful to the political world order than if china tries to supply russia with dangerous weapons they'll use against people of ukraine. if you want to talk about something that would immediately immobilized the american people behind this war to increase support, to increase the call for supporting with weapons and financial resources, china getting involved that way we do. that you would see those poll numbers you just reference that the former congressman is talking, about you would see those numbers skyrocket in favor for ukraine if china decides to get involved. away >> all right, thank you
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joe walsh and kurt bardella. coming up, does nikki haley have a trump problem? i'll explain in a moment. and later, will the city of st. louis award reparations to its black residents? much more politics nation in a moment. n in a moment care. but shingrix protects. proven over 90% effective, shingrix is a vaccine used to prevent shingles in adults 50 years and older. shingrix does not protect everyone and is not for those with severe allergic reactions to its ingredients or to a previous dose. an increased risk of guillain-barré syndrome was observed after getting shingrix. fainting can also happen. the most common side effects are pain, redness and swelling at the injection site, muscle pain, tiredness, headache, shivering, fever, and upset stomach. ask your doctor or pharmacist about shingrix today.
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>> i don't to wait for someone else to fix this. i want to make sure we get in there and fix this. i'm not a lawyer, i'm an accountant. i've never worked in d.c.. i think it's time for putting a fire under what's happening in congress. i think the mental competency tests for people over the age of 75. i think we need far more transparency than we are seeing today. >> joining me now is cofounder and ceo of all in together. none, president non -- focused on engaging women to participate in american politics. thank you for joining me today. you recently wrote an op-ed for politico highlighting that nikki haley has a quote, woman problem. saying that she may not have a fair shot at running a campaign as a female candidate among the
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gop. why do you think should be at a disadvantage running for president for the republican party? >> i think whoever runs for the office of the presidency is at an automatic disadvantage. no female has ever won before. everyone that runs is breaking down in their own way. in 2016 obviously, there's just a tremendous amount of documented sexism that hillary clinton had to contend with every step of the way. in 2020, we saw it again when they were running on the democratic side. it's bracing that diversity, embracing gender equality. on the other side the record is less good. when they ran in 2016, they dealt with just a barrage. the primarily from donald trump. they went from today, the other
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bans from republican politics. and other extremists that have gotten a larger, and larger share. frankly just mind sharing the last few years. and then you have the media to that. we already saw this week, my colleague on cnn don lemon who just hit a nerve in terms of blatant, every day that women in the public sphere have to contend with. so, it's not just the environment which is already very difficult. it's also the politics of the republican party today. >> now, abortion became a major issue in the midterms after the supreme court overturned roe v. wade. it became a concern for voters that female voters. nikki haley has supported abortion through her career. although she would not say this
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week whether she supports a federal band. do you think that position will hurt haley with the female voters to appeal to? >> yeah i think it's a real question i think she staying clear but for a reason. i mean she has been staunchly anti abortion or entire career. not just on the left with the right. 69% of americans polled including republicans so they do not agree with the restrictions. how far jurisdiction gone? even one of her own protegees has come on to say the republican party is gone too far. so, i think it's problematic for every republican running. voters showed us in 2020 to just how angry they are.
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so, the question is gonna be for a woman republican today how did she walk that line? someone has always been antiabortion at a time when women voters. she's saying she wants to win over are really uncomfortable with how far abortionist returns have gone. >> women of color in politics like natalie who is the daughter of indian immigrants, twice as likely than other candidates to be targeted with misinformation and disinformation. they are most likely to be targeted with sexist and racist abuse. according to research from the center of democracy. and of course haley is challenging former president trump who has a long history of making bigoted attacks against the rivals. how do you see this playing out on the campaign trail? >> there's an avalanche of
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reporting over the last few years has shown exactly what that report showed it's an avalanche of disinformation, smears online. i'm bracing myself what's gonna be a ugly republican primary. you know, i give her a lot of credit for running and not being intimidated by that. so far she has a tendency to hit back. all the research so this is the right answer. the only way to combat disinformation is to take it on. it's just like what do you do when there is a barrage of disinformation coming at you. whether you're republican or democrat everyone should be running with a fair playing field. women of color regardless -- should not be smeared for the race to the.
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gender i think we need to keep talking about this for the next year and a half. i think we have to pull the media. hold each other accountable. hold the world accountable. at the very least, we need to ensure that people are protected from the worst of what the internet can throw them. >> i'm out of time, but i follow up on that because it is sadly not surprising that nikki haley has faced racist backlash. some democrats have also made some questionable attacks. and particular some critics have accused her of american sounding -- should they be more thoughtful in the way that they criticize haley? briefly please. >> 100%. it is not okay. regardless of political party, if democrats want to create a world where diversity in
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politics is the norm. we are absolutely responsible. the standard needs to be high. we need to hold everyone to it. >> laura later, thank you for being with us. coming up, across the country there exploring of missions for reparations in their city. one of them is joining me next. we will be right there. l be right there they're gonna need more space... gotta sell the house. oh...open houses. or, skip the hassles and sell with confidence to opendoor. wow. request a cash offer at opendoor.com postmenopausal women with hr+ her2- metastatic breast cancer are living longer with kisqali. so, long live family time. long live dreams. and long live you. kisqali is a pill proven to help women live longer when taken with an aromatase inhibitor. and kisqali helps preserve quality of life.
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joining me now st. louis mayor. to share jones our democrat. donald, thank you for being with us tonight. and december, you signed an executive order establishing the nine member volunteer commission. all st. louis residents of diverse backgrounds to recommend opportunities for reparations in the city of st. louis. my understanding that you've been working with other mayors in exploring options for a period of justice. yes it's part of a coalition looking at the issue. as a number of cities in the state of california, i've explored more positions and implementing them? what is it about st. louis specifically in its history that prompted him to take the step? >> well, thank you for having me. it's an honor to be with you
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this evening. st. louis is no different than any other urban city. it has experienced deep restrictions and other intentional policies that have widened the racial wealth gap. we are overdue to at least start the conversation about reparations and what that would look like. it's more than just a payment. it's also looking at the policies that create it. it's an environment where black families are worth ten times less than a white family. >> now, st. louis only has local control of its police force 11 years ago through a statewide referendum. i understand that republican legislator and missouri has introduced legislation that would return control of the st. louis metropolitan police department. with the governor pointing for commissioners to serve with the
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st. louis board, that barbara take control of st. louis at the end of august. what in your view is behind this to return control of the police department to the state. >> this is a slap in the face to missouri voters they voted to return the police department to local control. and every police department across the country except kansas city missouri has local control of its police department. in kansas city, they are actually suing the state of missouri for the police department. it's also happening -- i think this is a concerted attack to take away from black leaders in this country. >> before we run out of time, i
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want to get your reaction to the overturned conviction of omar johnson who sees nearly 30 years for the murder that he always maintained he did not commit. and 1990, for a conviction was built for former testimony that has since been called into question. our circuit court judge exonerated johnson for that murder. after some three decades of incarceration. what is your take away mary jones? >> well, i couldn't be happier for the family. he served 20 years for a crime he didn't commit. i also want to commend the circuit attorney and other lawyers for not giving up, the one good thing at the missouri legislation didn't 2021 was passed a law to allow for soaked attorneys another da's to start processes like this. to free people have been unjustly detained and
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