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investigator plus a year on with the war in ukraine, how much american support remains? especially when republicans are on the host too -- and new republican presidential candidate nikki haley is to try and of indian immigrants. exactly where does she stand on the issue of immigration? you might or might not -- good evening. i am mehdi hasan, on saturday, on saturday, the michigan republican party still licking their wounds from an embarrassing midterm defeat, selected a new state share. having seen the democrats back in november with a trifecta of power back in the state -- of the full legislature for the first time in four decades, we might think the michigan gop -- and go for a more moderate leader. but, don't be silly, they just doubled down on crazy and instead they picked

christina crimea as the party chair. -- trump secretary of state who despite a 14 point loss refused to concede, or maybe remember her as claiming demonic procession was real and could somehow be sexually transmitted. yes, you heard,, that right. the woman who warmed about demon sperm is now leading a major political party in a crucial battleground state. i know it is easy to laugh at people like karamo. i do. or people like kari lake, the -- arizona governor, you remember lake right, or maybe you don't recognize or without her weird soft zoom filters. just this week, after state repeals court rejected lake's challenge she vowed to take the fight all the way but as much as we want to pretend these clowns are just out of some traveling circus, modern-day republican party is no laughing matter. behind the party,

behind them is a dangerous violent and evolving fascist movement. yeah. let's go back to michigan. back in april of 2020, hundreds of rioters, some who were armed, storm the states capitol building demanding an end to coronavirus stay-at-home orders. later, -- members of a militia group conspire to kidnap the -- states democratic governor direction whiton there. so in many ways, what we saw play out in michigan in 2020 was a dry run for the attack on our nation's capital, less than a year later. because, despite what you may have heard january the 6th did not come out of nowhere, that is the point made in a stunning new piece from former january 6th committee counsel jacob glick. like what describes the months of extremist activity that preceded the attack on the capital is closed, slow burn insurrection rather than a sudden call to arms. glick was part of a small team of

investigative counsel tasked with interviewing him as a proud boy. -- far-right extremist groups. it was during those interviews that glick discovered extremist mobilization in this country did not simply begin with world's words like this from president trump. >> why proud boys, stand back and stand by. fight like hell. if you don't fight like hell, you won't have a country anymore. >> instead, glick and his colleagues uncovered a months long trend towards political violence in this country. their evidence showed that the energy that culminated on the 6th of january had been cultivated months prior, spurred on by pandemic related health restrictions, like black lives matter protests. some might see that line of argument which somehow absolves the trump of any culpability, but glick refutes this, writing that finding organs for political violence with -- doesn't dilute the for trump's call to the

capital, actually making him look worse. quote, instead of an american king lear raging against the end of his reign, trump is actually revealing himself as a durable coalition of the authoritarian far-right. whose years of anti democratic rhetoric help to normalize political violence and extremism during the chaos of 2020. by the time he rallied his supporters to stop the steal, he had already successfully transformed himself from a traditional head of state to a far-right, fascist cult leader whose promises to tear down multi racial democracy were untrue stir stood by supporters not as posturing, but as long awaited gospel. we all know there was debate over this very well -- even within january six committee. liz cheney, former republican congresswoman, wanted to focus the panels final report primarily on the ex president -- and all the evidence clearly establishes

donald trump as the centrifugal force that but about january 6th, and we must be clear this threat goes far beyond him. since democrats surprising success in the midterms, will -- fight for our democracy is over and it has been won. it is a trap that even president biden seemed to fall into in the state of the union. >> and two years ago, democracy faced its greatest threats as in the civil war today. bruised, our democracy remains on about an unbroken. >> but, as glick rights, and i quote, grappling with this truth, that democracy is still in danger, especially from political violence, is of course more difficult than isolating in dismissing trump as a villainous rogue actor. the truth is that the threat to our democracy in our country is still very much alive, he says. because those same groups have now moved on to new targets, i will leave you with this stark warning from jacob glick. quote, we cannot afford to look the other way while trump warns the

country that his supporters are locked and loaded to physically fight for him in 2024. former investigative counsel -- jacob glick joins me now -- now a policy council at georgetown laws institute for constitutional advocacy and protection. also with us, -- counterintelligence division of the fbi. she is now seen as assistant dean as yale, jackson school of global affairs. thank you both for joining me. jacob, not let me start with you. as you outlined in your piece, this far-right threat to our democracy existed long before january the 6th and it still remains. a lot of liberals might argue with you on that point. they might say you know, president biden said our democracy is bruised but it is still standing and we are healing, how would you respond to what i would call that complacency? how serious is the current threat to our democracy from domestic extremism? >> well, thank you so much for having me. and for talking about the piece. i think i would respond in two ways. and

i think a lot of -- political spectrum are willing to look at this difficult truth so we should look for first, the evidence that was compiled by the select committee that showed there was witness after witness that told us about a real slow burn to extremism, to insurrection, that focused on, as you mentioned covid safety measures and really -- the most critical point seemed to be the black lives matter protests and the way that president trump and his allies were really to demonize them as a front for antifa. to show that first of all this was not a one-off bad day. it should not be swept under the rug. secondly, i say that we need to look at how the -- how they've moved on since january 6th to look at school boards and focusing on issues like critical race theory and masks in schools and more recently a disturbingly, or as disparate, looking at drag events in the queer community. that has been a target of the proud boys. in the same way that anti lockdown protests and

by racial justice protests became the focus of their activity in 2020. i would argue, to anyone saying that the threat to our democracy is over lessened is that we did not see an immediate mass casualty event or assault on our democracy and -- we should read the warning signs now. just as we should have read the warning signs in the middle of 2020. we >> asha, as a former fbi agent can you explain to our viewers how dangerous this rise in far-right domestic extremism is and how indeed it is dangerously on the rise, someone on the right is pretending it isn't. >> yes. it is obviously a threat. it is something that has been recognized by the national security council strategy to -- combat domestic extremism. i think, i love jacob speeds because it brings together a number of important points. one is that these groups that i think for a long time have been largely treated

as disparate it and kind of, in these discreet events which we characterizes lone wolves actually have an alignment of interests. through social media they have been able to really organized and galvanize around common causes that make them even more dangerous. and also, i think, you know, what he is saying in this piece is that it goes beyond trump. meaning that these other politicians who are learning from trump's tactics can also get these people riled up. this is a shadow army that is essentially looking for a greenlight from anyone who's in a position of power. so it is not just trump that could be the person who likes the fire for them. >> so given that, jake, up was a mistake for members of the january six committee, like liz cheney, the vice chair, to focus so much on the actions of donald trump, to the exclusion of other actors and agents. did it minimize the broader extremism which, as our points out, can be incited and

galvanized and recruited by other politician on the right? >> well, i do not want to speak to the work of the committee in terms of those interim, the inside baseball questions. i was honored to serve as an investigating counsel on select committee, i think what is important is that the committee accomplish more urgent task, which was exposing the danger of donald trump and his coup is easiest allies in trying to overthrow our democracy in late 2020 and early 2021. what's important now is that all the members agreed to make the transcripts of our depositions public and how it is up to us, people like you and me and asha, to look at these transcripts and explain them to the american public to show the sustained threat of authoritarianism that is really exposed in their pages. obviously there is a lot of stories of the select committee detail, and the most important was to reveal that the multi layered threat to our democracy that donald trump launched as an attack in late 2020 and now

we have got to go into the next step. as asha said, this is a pattern that can be replicated by other politicians and on other causes, and i think that that most concerning one that we are seeing right now is the demonization of the lgbtq community. >> yes indeed. quick last question to you, asha, former vice president mike pence says that he plans to fight a subpoena from the justice department regarding its investigation into trump's overturn of the 2020 election. it is an aggressive move, some might say, for the special counsel jack smith. your lawyer, tell us about the significance of smith's move and pence's claim of privilege. >> my sense is that jack smith would not have taken this move if he had not had into spotted all of the possible legal arguments that could be made against it. you know, pence has made, he is now claiming legislative privilege before he claimed executive privilege. i think what matters here is that he is trying to get out of having to tell the truth about

that day. but i think in this case, the interests of the criminal justice system will prevail and on this particular claim mike pence legal argument is colorable, but thin and in the end we will see testimony from mike pence. >> first u.s. president of the senate, and then he wanted legislative exam to -- get your argument straight, mister pence. jacob clips, thank you. asha stick around labor going talking about nikki haley. coming up, one year later. i will speak to ukrainian mp about the upcoming anniversary of russia's brutally illegal invasion of ukraine and whether her country can now just declare victory. e victory. kn ow how i feel.♪ ♪breeze driftin' on by...♪ ♪...you know how i feel.♪ you don't have to take... [coughing] ...copd sitting down. ♪it's a new dawn,...♪ ♪...it's a new day,♪

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13,000 troops have been killed in action while the uk's ministry of defence estimates as many as 60,000 russians could've died. western countries stepped up their support to ukraine over the past year. and the early days of the way, americans, ordinary americans, desire to help was unending. blue in yellow ukrainian flags were at the windows of cars and homes across the country. so far, the u.s. has pledged more than 29 billion dollars in military aid. but we are a country well with the -- fatigued by forever words of our own. so that support for ukraine seems to -- as republicans recently cosign to ukraine -- resolution calling for the u.s. to end military and financial aid to ukraine. a new ap poll finds that 48% of all americans support the -- down from 60% in may of last year. earlier, i spoke with karen riddick, a ukrainian member of parliament about where the war effort in the international coalition against vladimir putin stance today, and where she sees it going.

>> kara, thanks much for coming back on the show. it's almost exactly a year now since russia's brutal and illegal invasion of your country. almost exactly a year since you've posted this viral photo of yourself in your home, holding a kalashnikov. did you think back then that a year on, you would still be, thankfully, safe, that your country would be undefeated on the battlefield, and, can i ask, what is life like in ukraine today for you? for most people, on this one year anniversary of the war? >> i, thanks so much for having me. i am indeed so grateful that i am still here. we know that a year ago, it was not given. and we did not know what was going to happen. it was so, so unpredictable. pretty much as right now, but at that time, the threat was very physical.

we knew that russians surrounded kyiv, and we had to trained defend ourselves. my team training with me that it stays -- many went to the front. and they went saying, we will go and fight russians layer so you would not have to use a gun at all. and i'm so thankful to our armed forces, but they are keeping this promise, that no matter how terrifying in complicated that is to live under the constant threat, and arid sirens, we are still here. there is still a curfew, every day since -- 11 pm to 5 am. we still are experiencing electricity outages, and having energy just a couple hours a day. and streets are not being lit during the night. we still start our days when

the arid sirens are on, and go to the nearest bomb shelter. i still hide under the stairs with my family. we are still trying not to plan for more than a couple days, because the situation changes rapidly. but the most important -- >> so -- >> we still have our resolve to fight forward. >> yes. so, kyra, the chairman of the u.s. -- marc miller, said earlier this month, in short, russia has lost. they lost strategically, operationally, and possibly, and they're paying an enormous price on the battlefield. do you agree with that assessment? if so, is it time, therefore, for the ukrainian government to also declare victory and head to the negotiating table with the defeated russian government? >> russia has not been defeated yet. strategically, we do believe

that they are losing. however, they are still getting their forces and using all their goliath strength to still take back some of the territories that they want. we cannot say anything about victory until russian soldiers are not on ukrainian land. it is critical for us to physically claim our victory. and then, think about what should be the security guarantees so russia will not attack again. right now, we should not underestimate our enemy, and should still push forward. putin is playing the game of attrition, and he still hopes that a year from now, the work of the west will not be as strong as it is right now. this is why we need to gather the voices and unite all the support today, and --

>> on the subject of support, joe biden is heading to europe, to poland, on monday. at a time when the american public isn't as supportive of ukraine as it was before. some of the polling showing that support for ukraine is down from 60% last year to 48% now, to provided aid. it's not just the american public. the american government, for example, i want to read you this recent quote from the washington post. we will continue to try to impress upon them that we can't do anything and everything forever, said one senior administration official, adding that it was the administration's very strong view that it would be hard to keep getting the same level of security and economics assistance from congress. how concerned are you to hear such advice from the u.s. government? what's your response to that? >> well, this is exactly what putin is hoping for. that the support will not last long, and then, you will be able to do whatever he wants. but, the question is, what is

the alternative? if ukraine loses, and i don't want to think about that, it would mean that the whole western world cannot unify against russia and they can do whatever they want. i'm not saying this is the world we all want to live in. we want to live in the world where the sovereign country can not be afraid for its freedom. and the sovereign country can hope that the international laws would work. if the united states is claiming to be a leader of the democratic world, there are responsibilities. and responsibilities are to make sure that the rules are abate. and we are fighting with our own lives. we are not asking to do everything for us. but we are asking for is the things that we cannot provide for ourselves. the weapons, and the supplies. >> american public are watching tonight.

we will see if that message gets very. kara riddick, thank you for joining us ahead of this one year anniversary. please do say -- stay safe. >> thank, you and glory to ukraine. >> coming up, joe rogan thinks elon musk is not a right winger. i think he has, and i've got receipts. stay tuned for my 62nd right. but first, richard louis is here with the headlines. hello, richard. >> a, lot muddy. stories we're watching for you this hour. former president jimmy carter continuing to kick receive hospice care at home following a series of hospital stays. his foundation, the carters under, did not specify the reason for his recent hospitalization. the former president is 98 years old. that is the longest lived u.s. president. one person was killed and ten were injured after two early morning shootings in memphis. police say that they believe the two shootings are connected, and that the shooter remains at large. and north korea fired two more ballistic missiles towards the sea of japan on sunday, according to japanese

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give me just 60 seconds, start the clock. elon musk has been the past four months since he bought trader -- anti-vaxxer -- he spent the past four months since he bought twitter restoring the accounts of actual neo-nazis and hala customers, including kanye west, who he may have to suspend again. he gave trump his conch -- twitter account back -- he told democratic senator -- he willed against awoke mind virus, he says his pronouns or prosecute fauci, he spotted homophobic conspiracy theories about paul's pelosi in the vicious attack on polpis ocee. he doesn't like regulations, labor unions, he hunted with jared kushner at the world cup final, he hung up with rupert murdoch at the super bowl, he advocated for kevin mccarthy to be how speaker, he -- capitol hill to wish him a happy birthday in person. it was kim mccarthy's vip guests at a republican fund-raiser -- he's leaning toward ron desantis for president in 2024, but bring republican ron desantis, and he told more than 120 million followers to vote republican last november. yes, for gop. he literally said.

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it's this phenomenon whereby new immigrants arrive in an area, a nice area, they're allowed in. but then, they themselves campaign to keep it that way and not allow any more immigrants into that area, hence, the drawbridge mentality. you're pulling up the drawbridge and not allowing others to follow the path that you yourself pursued. because you, you were a good immigrant. not like these new immigrants. the bad ones. as the child of indian immigrants to the uk, and, now as a british indian immigrant myself to the u.s., i happen to be depressingly familiar with this concept. i've seen people in my own brown community act in shockingly anti immigrant ways. and i've been thinking a lot about the drawbridge mentality in recent weeks because of brown politicians on both sides of the atlantic. here in the u.s., former south carolina governor and ex trump ambassador to the u. n., nikki haley declared herself the proud child of indian immigrant

when announcing her candidacy -- denouncing illegals. >> in the america i see, we stop the surge of drugs and illegal immigration. that means having a real border and mandatory-y verify like we got done in south carolina. businesses must hire americans, not illegals. >> in her memoir, haley even talks about her indian mother actually supporting trump for president in 2016, very early on. yes, the same trump who wanted to build a wall and made racist remarks about brown people. that's the drawbridge right there. in many ways, nikki haley herself is following in the steps of bobby jindal, another ex republican governor who had fantasies about being the gop presidential nominee.

jindal, who changed his name to bobby, condemned immigration as assimilation -- new champion of the tough on immigrants crowd. this isn't just an american phenomenon either. the current conservative prime minister in the uk and his home secretary, the minister in charge of security and immigration, are rishi sunak, and suella -- children of immigrants of indian origin. they've made fearmongering about border control central to their politics and their government's mission, even to the point where they continue to push a plan to send asylum seekers in the uk to rwanda in east africa. something criticized by the united nations high commission for refugees. in fact, braverman said own father was effectively kicked out of kenya before coming to the uk, but now says it's her

dream and obsession to send asylum seekers to rwanda, where there was a genocide in living memory. that's her dream and obsession. sick stuff. now, conservative pundits and apologists will say there's nothing wrong with right immigrants or the right-wing children of immigrants wanting to get tough on illegal immigration. their parents came legally. that's a load of bs. number one, the idea this is all about illegal immigration is just false. there are thousands of people trying, but unable to claim asylum at our southern border, and claiming asylum is a legal right under the u.s. an international law. number two, both conservatives in the uk in republicans in u. s. are doing their level best to shut down any legal ways for people to enter and claim asylum, whether sending them to rwanda, or in the gop's case, to mexico. number three, but the republican party in the u.s. in the conservative party in the uk claim that they want to reduce all immigration, not just illegal immigration. as donald trump, a president who nikki haley worked for, the plan was to cut legal

immigration in half. which he did. so yeah, the hypocrisy, the cynicism, the selfish drawbridge mentality of my fellow indian americans and indian brits -- nikki haley over here, or suella braverman over there, it really bothers me. the right talks a lot about how immigrants, or the kids of immigrants, should be grateful to the country who took them in. the best way to be grateful is to fight to ensure that the country continues to offer the same opportunities for refuge, for safe haven, for a new life, to others. that they once offered to you and to your parents. my fellow immigrants, my fellow indian americans, let's just build bridges, not drawbridges. after the break, i'll be joined to discuss all this by my fellow children of indian immigrants, asha, senior electorate of -- the global affairs, and wajahat ali, msnbc columnist and co-host of the democracy-ish podcast.

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carolina governor and ex trump ambassador nikki haley kicked off her 2024 gop presidential campaign by declaring that she would -- before the break, denouncing illegals and calling for more border patrol officers. what is it with the conservative children of indian immigrants? back with me is asha, senior electorate assistant at the yale jackson school of student affairs, a daughter of indian immigrants, and also joining me, wajahat ali, co-host of the democracy-ish podcast, author of go back to where you came from, he is the son of pakistani immigrants -- i got that wrong before the break. i should apologize. i don't start some kind of war with india and pakistan on the show tonight. so, let me start with asha tonight. you are a brown south asian woman born and raised in america. how proud were you when you saw

a fellow brown asian woman declare her candidacy on wednesday? >> let's rewind. i need to say that when nikki haley became governor in 2011, i was really proud of her. i was incredibly exciting to see someone of south asian descent become governor. at that point, there weren't that many people representing us. i have to say, fast forwarding, i just found her to be an incredible disappointment. her position on immigration, i think, as you pointed out maybe before the break, is one of the reasons why. and i think one of the things that's important to highlight, is that indians in particular have a very dark history in terms of our laws here in the united states. in 1923, an indian named -- tried to apply for citizenship. he claimed that he was white,

because that was the only way to become a naturalized citizen, and the supreme court denied that claim, and so he could not only not become a naturalized citizen, but many other indians were deported. and indians were banned from becoming citizens in the united states until the passage of the immigration and nationality act of 1965. nikki haley's family came here in 1966. mine came in 1970. we all our beneficiaries of people who fought to make that happen. and for her -- >> woke activists! she's a beneficiary of woke activism. >> exactly. >> you mentioned that the guy in the 1920s who declared himself white, i mean, there's reporting from a local paper that nikki haley once declared herself white on our voter registration form. waj, your thoughts on this? you wrote a book about growing up around in america. will you be cheering on fellow brown american and child of

south asian immigrants, nikki haley, and what she stands for? >> not all skin folk are kin folk. nikki haley instead is the dinesh desouza of candace owens. she's the alpha karen with brown skin. for white supremacists and racists, she is a perfect manchurian candidate. instead of applauding her, i'm just disgusted by people like nikki haley who know better. whose parents were the beneficiaries, as asha said, of the 1965 nationality act, which passed due to those original blm protesters in the civil rights act. her father came here because he was a professor at a black college in south carolina. that's how she became the proud american that she is. yeah, what does she do, like all these model minorities, which by the way, is the strategy of white supremacy, to use asians in particular as a cudgel against black folks. instead of pulling ourselves up from the boot straps, we're told to take our boot and put it on the neck of poor immigrants and black folks.

that's what she did in her ad. i see her, and i feel sad, mehdi, because she uses her brown skin as a weapon against poor black folks and brown folks, and uses her brown skin to launder white supremacist talking points. the reason i feel sad, because no matter what she does, mehdi, it will never be enough. they will never let her. if you don't believe me, what did ann coulter tell proud american nikki haley two days ago? go back to your country. nikki, they'll never love you. it ain't worth it. >> go back to where you came from, which is the ultimate racist insult, and of course, the title of your book. asha, we know that haley was in support of taking down the confederate flag in north carolina after the racist massacre of black folks in a church. she got a lot of plaudits for that. in fact, she had this to say about the flag back in 2010, when she was first running for governor. she was interviewed by basically a far-right, pro confederate group. >> the groups that come in and

say they have issues with the confederate flag, i will work to talk to them about it. i will talk to them about the heritage and how this is not something that is racist. this is something that is a tradition that people feel proud of. and let them know that we want their business in the state, and that the flag, where it is, was a compromise of all people, that everybody should accept in south carolina. >> she's never, asha, addressed or apologized for her previously pro confederate flag stance. she went on to work for donald trump. just because your brown, or a child of emigrants, doesn't mean you're not able to coddle and enable white supremacy. skin color, your ethnic background, isn't a jail at a free card on this issue, is it? >> no. i think of nikki haley as an amoeba. she shape-shifts to whatever is convenient for her in that moment. and i think we need to really take stock of that, because there's a lot of dismissal of her candidacy that, oh, she's just looking for a vp slot. make no mistake, mehdi, if she

had been vice president on january 6th, i 100% believe she would've gone along with this kooky plot that was going on. she didn't even say a bad thing about trump now, and that's really nothing, you know, that is holding her back. i think she would've absolutely gone along with it, and i think that's something that people need to think about, even if what she's gunning for is the second position on the ballot. >> that's a good point about january six. of course, don trump won't make her his running mate, because according to peter baker, he thinks she has a complexion problem. i keep getting trolled by conservative pundits on this haley issue, saying she's against illegal immigration, not legal immigration. do you buy that argument? are republicans really making that distinction when it comes to the right to asylum? and i mean, i'm pretty sure great replacement theory is about legal as well as illegal immigration.

>> let's ask ann coulter. he knows nikki culture is a proud daughter of indian immigrants who came here legally thanks to the 1965, and what did she say? go back to where you came from. let's listen to donald trump. what did he say to the squad? the women that nikki haley used to terrify her base in the three minute ad. go back to a country, clean it up. those were all u.s. citizens. they don't care. this is what i want to tell folks who actually have believed this myth of the model minority stereotype. have allowed themselves to pretend i think that their white, and be used as a cudgel against poor folks, black folks, brown folks, immigrants. they'll never love you. they're not nuanced. they don't care. if you put us on the lineup, they're not gonna be like, oh, you're a legal one, you're good. and you i'm scared of. you're gonna replace me. what's disappointing here, and again, in addition to being sad, nikki haley had an opportunity, asha said, for south asian woman to become governor. women who took down the confederate flag in 2015. she could've pivoted. she could use this moment to lead the republican party and,

what did she say? ron desantis -- >> the problem is, waj, they don't want to be led by her. let's see what she ends up polling up. asha, wajahat ali, think you for your time. coming up at the top of the hour with a man, -- discussing the upcoming state supreme court election that could flip controlled to liberals and protect abortion rights, voting rights, and more. that's tonight at nine eastern, and ayman joins me next to discuss the republican party's growing and hypocritical embrace of christian nationalism. it? (einstein) i got what i paid for. not so smart. (cecily) well, there is a smarter way to save. (einstein) oh?! (cecily) switch to verizon. you'll get a new 5g phone, on them. (vo) yup, get the new samsung galaxy s23+, a watch and a tablet, on us. that's a value of up to $1900 (einstein) oh, i love that math! i'm switching! (vo) switch to verizon and get the new samsung galaxy s23+, watch and tablet all on us

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we'll be right back here next sunday at 8 pm eastern. you can now find the show on the msnbc hub on peacock. a new episode of the mehdi hasan show during the week. now, it's time to handed off to my friend, ayman. ayman, good evening, before i go, what do you think the reaction on the right would be if ilhan omar began a political speech by shouting, allahu akbar, god's greatest, or glory be to god? people would lose their minds, right? and yet, christian republican politicians have no problem saying the stuff like this. >> let me first of all say, to god be the glory.

>> the double standards are everywhere, amen. a new poll from the -- more than half of republicans believe the country should be a christian nation, that our laws should be rooted in christian values. again, ayman, if a majority of muslim americans wanted sharia to be the law of the land, which we don't, by the way, that would be a huge story. it would be seen as a huge that. but growing christian nationalism in america, it kind of gets a pass. >> mehdi, not only does it get a pass, but christian nationalism has also become a badge of honor among republicans. i mean, if we watched any official in a foreign country speak out about a major foreign policy issue by saying his or her worldview on a national security issue is shaped by religion, or religious texts, we would probably call that official a religious zealot, or an extremist. and yet, this is exactly what mike pompeo seems to suggest about his views on israel's occupation of palestinian territories. watch this.

>> it is not an occupying nation. this land, as an evangelical christian, i am convinced by my reading of the bible that 3000 years on now, in spite of the denial of so many, is the rightful homeland of the jewish people. >> that was mike pompeo in a podcast earlier this week. imagine this guy, probably wants to be president of the united states and conduct foreign policy, not based on international law or conventions or human rights or even justice, but his own twisted interpretation of the bible. and of course, not to be outflanked, who did nikki haley invite to give the invocation out a first campaign event? none other than pastor john heggie, the one who called hitler a halfbreed jew sent by god to get the jews to the promised land by committing the holocaust. he was so extreme, by the republican standards of john mccain, that he rejected his endorsement back in 2008. now, you've got people like nikki haley, maybe even mike pence, basically clamoring for his endorsement.

>> it would be the equivalent, ayman, of barack obama launching his presidential campaigned by having louis farrakhan give the invocation. in some ways, worse. what he said about al or, what he said about the antichrist being gay, what he said about is land been internally violent, the republican party got a pass on it, because unfortunately, -- >> of all the people to choose from on the right nikki haley shows. him remember that. mehdi, great show as always, enjoy the rest of your evening off. coming up on ayman, election the nihilism, fox didn't believe the lies trump was peddling, but still, they broadcast them to millions of viewers. now, those lies live on a new generation of gop stars. plus, the most important election you've never heard of. wisconsin attorney general josh -- joins me to discuss the critical state supreme court race, and why it will affect all of us. and, abortion on the line yet again. a new ruling this week could