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every single day what the meaning of the word courage is. freedom is priceless. it's worth fighting for. for as long as it takes and that's how long we're going to be with you, mr. president. >> the white house did tell russia hours earlier that president biden would be there. officials said mr. biden wanted to deliver a powerful message of u.s. support for ukraine just days before the first anniversary of the war. the president deciding on friday that traveling there was a manageable level of security risk. the visit coming after vice president harris accused russia in munich this weekend of crimes against humanity. later speaking with me exclusively about it. >> the legal significance of that as a former prosecutor, well, the significance is that we have made a formal declaration. it's very important that the
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united states speaks truth, difficult though it may be for some to hear. >> and former president carter surrounded by family after the 98-year-old's decision to begin home hospice care. we'll have a live report from his hometown of plains, georgia. good day, everyone. happy presidents' day. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. president biden surprising the world with an overnight visit to meet with ukraine's president zelenskyy in kyiv. the first president and the first american president to go to a war zone with no u.s. military presence for security on the ground. a message the world that despite divided congress at home, the u.s. will supply ukraine with what it needs to fight putin's forces. >> russia's aim was to wipe ukraine off the map. putin's war of conquest is
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failing. russia's military's lost half its territory it once occupied. young, talented russians are fleeing by the tens of thousands, not wanting to come back to russia. not just fleeing from the military, but from russia itself because they see no future in their country. putin thought ukraine was weak and the west was divided. as you know, mr. president, i said to you in the beginning, he's counting on us not sticking together. he was counting on the inability to keep nato united. he was counting on us not to bring in others on the side of ukraine. he thought he could outlast us. i don't think he's thinking that right now. god knows what he's thinking. i don't think he's thinking
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that. >> joining me now is nbc white house correspondent and weekend today co-host, kristen welker in poland. nbc chief foreign correspondent, richard engel in ukraine and keir simmons in moscow. today is one of the most critical days of the biden presidency. take us through the secrecy. your trip overnight to be in poland when he arrives next. >> reporter: this was incredibly dramatic, andrea. historic as well. president biden aiming to show unity and defiance against putin and his aggression in ukraine and this trip was so dangerous that it needed to happen with only a few of his closest advisers that the president was going to make this daring trip. we're learning new details about that. president biden made the final determination we're told after months of deliberations on
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friday. to give this order that he did in fact want to make this visit. he left in a cloak of darkness, in a cloak of secrecy at 4:15 a.m. on sunday and again, even some of his closest advisers not aware he was making this trip. the media not aware largely, andrea, because of the dangers that this trip poses. so we're not learning a whole lot of details about the exact choreography of how he got from the white house to kyiv, again, this was done with the utmost secrecy to send the message we're not leaving. his goal is to keep the global community unified and also a divided congress as you talked about that fact, andrea. the fact that you have some republicans saying that they're not going to write a blank check to ukraine. so his challenge is to make sure
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that the aide continues today. of course, he did pledge another $500 billion in military aid to ukraine. that is going to be significant. president zelenskyy calling this trip historic, brave, but also saying he needs more military support including f-16 fighter jets. no indication the white house is going to send that. what are we watching for tomorrow? president biden will be meeting with the president here in poland and then he's going to be delivering his capstone address tomorrow night, andrea. >> and richard, i was in munich at the security conference. president zelenskyy addressed them virtually this year. and pleading for more help from the allies saying it's got to come soon. he needs it now. the russian offensive has started according to u.s. officials who are talking to us. this is the time. you know it better than anyone on the ground there, that he needs these weapons. i want to hear, everyone to hear what he said earlier today.
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>> they would cost president biden that is so important signal for us. i really appreciate president biden, american society, being from the very beginning of this tragedy, from the beginning of this full scale war, has been together with us. thank you for your relationship. thanks for bipartisan support, congress. that is historical moment for our country. >> so, richard, i'm told, we're told by the brits and the u.s. and others, those fighter jets, f-16s, are not coming. they think fighter jets are just too complicated and the training would take too long and that's not what they need for this offensive and to push back against what russia's doing. tell us what you think.
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>> reporter: so, there is a very obvious front line right now. and two sides, ukraine and russia, are in an artillery fight. this is a traditional ground war and it looks and feels from what i've read and seen in historic documents, like world war i. you see a long line. it's a curving line that goes from the north and stretches to the south around kherson. about 800 miles long. one one side, you have russian troops and mercenaries from the wagner group. they are heavily armed with artillery and on the other side, you have ukrainian troops in trenches also armed with artillery and the two sides are lobbing them back and forth. and the russians are trying to advance. they have a military advantage. more men and artillery. and they, for the last two weeks or so, ten days, have intensified their assault. the assault has in fact begun. and the ukrainians are trying to
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defend against it. what the ukrainians want to do is launch their own assault. so if you imagine this long front line, very, very violent place where there's tremendous amount of destruction on the ukrainian side, hundreds of villages that have been made uninhabitable and there are few people still staying in many of these villages that we've seen oftentimes the elderly or people who have personal reasons for staying there. what the ukrainians want is more advanced weapons so they can start breaking up that front line. they want to use those high mobility tanks so they can punch holes in the front line. so they can start surrounded russian forces and change the dynamic. could aircraft be useful for that? certainly the ukrainians think so, but it is not entirely up to them. >> not up to them at all in terms of the supply. of course, what zelenskyy was saying that the supply chain has to be quicker because the need is know and it's urgent.
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keir in moscow a day after the u.s. raised the stakes accusing russia of crimes against humanity. the white house is now notifying them, you know, yesterday, that president biden is making this secret trip and the fact that they could communicate i'm going to just metaphorically call a hot line, but it's military to military assume bly. is that encouraging during this time of war? >> reporter: well, it's a glimmer of diplomacy, isn't it, despite the fact there's frankly more fury than diplomacy here. russians are furious about the crimes against humanity declaration by the vice president. you were with him in munich. they're furious about another u.s. official suggesting ukraine should support to target crimea. the fact there was this notification to deescalate does i guess tell you something. perhaps it tells us that the kremlin would not want to target a u.s. president.
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that clearly would escalate things to an extraordinary degree and that's not what the kremlin wants. i think also, amid all of this, what we're seeing and now with this anniversary coming and looking ahead, what we're seeing is ukraine turning into a symbol for the world. just think about the diplomacy that is happening. you know, you have national security adviser with the president there and ukraine for that historic visit. at the same time, you have blinken in turkey with the foreign minister doing diplomacy there then you have china's top diplomat in hungary on his way here to russia. chinese trying to present themselves as negotiating for peace even though amid those talks that there's clearly little trust with the u.s. accusing china of looking at potentially sending lethal weapons. so the tech tonic plates of
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diplomacy are shifting. as we look ahead, you're going to look at ukraine like east and west berlin or north and south korea where countries are positions themselves based on what they believe about ukraine. >> blinken being in turkey and turkey still pushing back against sweden's entry into nato and sweden being clear they'll need an entire security umbrella from nato if they're left alone and if finland were to get in first, which is what erdogan who has an uneven relationship with the u.s. is now demanding, but is now in such incredible need because of the earthquake. the world is on fire. no question of it. all at your posts, thank you so much. joining us now is former u.s. ambassador to russia, michael mcfaul.
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michael, you're the ambassador in kyiv. it's a scaled back embassy and all of a sudden, you're getting a presidential visit with no military on the ground. not only no military, but none of the usual component of any kind of security on the ground. amazing. right? >> it is amazing. and by the way, we have a fantastic ambassador in kyiv who knows how to handle this so we're lucky she's in place. and they do have a scaled back team, but they have a first rate team. second, i just want to say i applaud president biden for making this trip. this is a symbolic trip. it's a historic trip. it's a strong signal to ukrainians that they are with him. some of those people he was shaking hands with there, they were just in munich with us two days ago and i was hearing from them about how they needed to feel this support. so i think it was a very important visit. by the way, it also weds
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together president biden's future and his legacy with ukraine's future. and i personally think that's good for ukraine and good for the united states of america. >> steph, as a military person, talk to me about this offensive because the russians are attacking. richard laid it out how it looks more like world war i. you're i think an infantry man. you know what was going on there. you were a deputy in europe and helped train ukrainians. a strong military that could go against the russians in the invasion. what now and you know, do they need the fighter jets or is that, is the real issue here crimea and the nato and u.s. concern that has not spread to crimea and that zelenskyy knows what the red lines are?
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>> a couple of points here. on the russian offensive, i do not see a large scale synchronized attack by russia. russia is incapable. they've demonstrated that they're incapable and incompetent of having a large scale. think back to when they tried to take kyiv. when they tried to assemble down in the east and sweep from the east to kherson. they could not execute a large scale, coordinated attack. what i do see in those 800 miles richard talked about is small scale combat operations y the russians. so for the ukrainians to be able to counter that, they're going to need to have additional artillery. yes, i would love to get fighter jets in there, attack helicopters so they can attack long range to go after the
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communications and logistics of the russians. so yes, it is needed to be able to tip the scale. right now, i'm hearing this back and forth, this world war 1 type battle. something's got to happen to tip the scale. if you want this war to end, it's got to be negotiations that would end it or it's got to be a winner in this fight. and in order nor the ukrainians to win, they've got to have the necessary military equipment to tip the scale in this fight. >> can they get up to speed on f-16s? the u.s. says they're too complicated. the training takes too long. they wouldn't be useful for this offensive. >> i will tell you it's a very complicated aircraft. it will take a while for them to train on it. but if you think about it, we're sitting here today after one year and my guesstimation we're going to be sitting here another year in this fight. so let's get them started now training on it.
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that way we can get them prepared and get them into the fight at some point in time once they finish training on them. it may take months. it may take a year, but at least we've got them prepared. >> ambassador, thank you very much. thanks to both of you. and more of my exclusive interview with vice president harris. we talk about what might happen if china starts sending weapons to russia. using ukraine as the u.s. said they are considering. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. suffering from sinus congestion, especially at night? try vicks sinex for instant relief that lasts up to 12 hours. vicks sinex targets congestion at the source, relieving nasal congestion and sinus pressure by reducing swelling in the sinuses. try vicks sinex. woo! hey you. i am loving this silversneakers® boxing class. thank you aetna. yeah? well, i'm loving that zero dollar monthly plan premium.
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security conference on saturday, i talked to her about the deepening relationship with beijing and moscow, which is concerning the white house. you also warned china against providing any lethal weapons to russia for ukraine. >> so, i've said and what concerns us is that we are seeing and are concerned about a deepening relationship between beijing and moscow. that speaks for itself. we want to be clear that that is what we are concerned about and that is why i talked about that. we have talked about it with our allies and with our partners. >> is that a red line? >> no, it's not a red line. >> joining me now is former deputy national security adviser, ben rhodes and james devitis. she told me this is not a red line. another cabinet official said it is a red line over the weekend. what would the u.s. do if china
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starts rearming or arming russia to back up its shortfall on weapons? >> well, it would certainly be a dramatic escalation by china. in a european conflict where their only interest would be damaging the west. it would make a difference if the resupply of iran that are providing them with drones. in response, what it would do is trigger actions by the united states. those could come across several different areas. one, the u.s. has moved to its use of sanctions more aggressively against certain chinese entities and may target any aspect of the chinese system that are supplying the russians. you may see more robust sanctions from the u.s. also, the u.s. shows restraint in the kind of military hardware we provide.
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in the obama years, the chinese did not like deploying a missile defense system to south korea. you recently saw an increase to the philippines. the u.s. may say if you start to get involved in europe, you may see more of a security posture from our allies in asia that is willing to challenge the chinese as well. across the board economically, militarily, it would ratchet up the escalation that's ongoing. >> it might be so high, ben and admiral top friedman on "meet the press" said this would make it a world war. not a shooting war. but a world war in that we are all engaged. james? >> i think tom is right to sound the alarm. i don't think it's going to get to that point. the relationship between the u.s. and china is continuing to have ups and downs and you can some other potential pressure points coming here. a couple of other things the
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united states could do in response to arming ukraine, which i think really is crossing the rubicon quite literally, would be to up our aid to taiwan. that would be extremely unpopular in beijing. we also have significant options in cyber, in intelligence, in working with nations around the periphery of china like india and vietnam that have disagreements with china. all of this, i suspect, has gone through the minds of president xi and lee, the foreign minister who just met with tony blinken. another spark we're all kind of watching for is whether newly appointed speaker mccarthy decided to follow through on a trip to taiwan. that would create a real spike in the relationship. let's hope both sides can kind on step back from this.
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it's in neither side's interest for china to take this on, supporting this rotten regime in moscow. >> i asked the administration official last week whether they had even reached out and tried to ask mccarthy not to go to china, to taiwan, and the answer was if we couldn't stop nancy pelosi from going, what makes you think we could even bother to ask mccarthy not to go at this delicate time? but then the situation with china right now is so fraught and we're in this you know, terrible situation with russia. the president in the middle of this going without any kind of military support into a war zone is pretty amazing so i did want to ask you about that, also. just what that means. my own sense is he really wanted to go face-to-face, eye to eye, with zelenskyy and talk to him about his needs.
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praise him. send the important signal to the world of support. i think they are very concerned about crimea and about how far zelenskyy would go if he had fighter jets. if he had better weapons. whether that would trigger a putin reaction. are you picking up anything like that? >> yeah, i think the symbolism is really importance and so is is substance. semblance, it's a message to the american people in our pleks that we're in this fight and we have to come back for more assistance to the ukrainians and to allies who may be getting wobbly with the degree of assistance to ukraine. i had to help plan president obama's trips and it's really hard to pull this off. mainly because you can't really read in the other government because you have some operational security concerns, but it's worth doing because of the symbolism and substance.
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on some of these fundamental issues like how far is the u.s. willing to go in providing the kind of weapons systems that zelenskyy wants and how much is the u.s. concerned about the ukrainians pushing this into crimea in a way that could escalate. right now, zelenskyy's posture is give us everything we could possibly get to win this war. i think the u.s. is still in the position of we want to give you enough to go on the offensive, take back some territory, but we're not all the way with you in the idea that this should be the spigot's totally open and you guys are going of crimea. so i think they need to level set on what their expectations are and what ours are because we're kind of co-dependent in the sense that the ukrainians are the ones doing all the sacrificing but they need that support from the u.s. to shape their ambitions on the battlefield. so i think this is an important
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opportunity for them so sit down face-to-face to talk about the sensitive issues. >> general milley said last week in brussels we're having our own supply chain issues with ammo and military resources with all of this rain. we've got the money also from that supplemental to september, but there's going to come a time next year when there's going to have to be a big ask by the pentagon. >> indeed. if you really look at the economics of this situation, 55%, maybe 60% of the world's gross domestic product is lined up behind ukraine. the united states, european union, japan. probably 65%. over here is russia with 2%. less than 2% of the world's gdp. if china were to come in full
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force behind them, that's only another 15%. so the scales, andrea, are still highly weighted in our direction. are we going to have some challenges? are there going to be some precision guided points? yes. don't bet against us. we can win this foot race. >> i'm glad that you have this great confidence and so do all the u.s. officials i speak to, but then it's an election year next year. so brace yourself. ben, admiral, thanks to you both for all your expertise and coming up next, prayers for a president. the latest on jimmy carter's decision to start hospice care. you're watching msnbc. t hospicee you're watching msnbc. to you, it may just be an elevator. here goes nothing. but for a young homeowner becoming their parents, it's a learning opportunity. come on in. [ chuckles ] the more, the merrier. paris, huh? bonjour!
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many american history, has made the decision to forgo further medical treatment and receive hospice care at his home in plains, georgia. joining me now are kelly o'donnell in plains and jonathan, who authored the only full length biography of jimmy carter, his very best life. so, kelly, joe biden was especially close to carter. i know from my experience decades ago, i think he was the first senator to endorse carter's long shot candidacy in 1976 despite the fact that many of biden's senior senate colleagues were ready to jump into the race. so this is close and personal. this is not a pro forma message to them. >> reporter: very much so. and joe biden's history of friendship with the carters is real, enduring and certainly something that would play out in a time like this.
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certainly, the current president understands the enormity of this from all his own personal experiences with these kind of painful family times. it is really something to be back in plains, georgia. i've been here before as you have. this is the community that so embraces the carters. it has been their home for so many years. the home where the former president is resting right now is not far from here. it's been their home for more than 60 years. their roots are very deep here. and the community here knows the carters very personally. they aren't historical figures here. they're neighbors. fellow churchgoers. they're part of the community. there's a real sense here of how important the carters are and have been to plains, georgia, and to georgia and to the nation. so this is a time when there are lots of thoughts of prayers and good wishes and concern. all of those things when you
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really get the sense of a family coming together. certainly for president carter, who has gone through many health challenges in the past and has been more formidable than could have been imagined. this was difficult news that he made this decision, choosing to forgo medical treatment. we don't know what comes next, but we do know there are good wishes coming from the current president, other former presidents like president clinton, who on this presidents' day, tweeted a photo of himself wishing carter well. the habitant for humanity organization where the carters are so closely aligned, they also send good wishes. it's a time of giving thanks and prayers and thinking about the carters. >> and jonathan, you got to know president carter well over the decades and writing your book, spent so much time there. it's so typical of his grit, determination.
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his deep religious convictions. i'm recalling my last interview with him i think on this program was in 2019 when he had just had a fall. had a horrible black eye and yet he was out doing a habitat for humanity construction project and doing an interview with me in the middle of that. >> it was worse than that, andrea. at that time in that fall, he suffered a subdural hematoma and that has impaired him in the three years since. affected his vision. not his mind. but other parts of his functionality. yet he was back out there with all those bruises on his face for one last habitat for humanity build. but to get a sense of what he's thinking right now, i think it's useful to go back to 2015 when he was diagnosed with metastatic
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melanoma that has spread to his brain and turned out a drug calls keytruda saved his life, but he was prepared to die at that point and talked to me and others about how he was at peace with the idea of meeting his maker and that he felt he had led a full life and was ready. so i think that would reflect his views now. senne years later. >> i first met him in 1972 on the floor of the convention. he was the governor of georgia. i was a local reporter covering the pennsylvania delegation and the governor then of pennsylvania said you've got to meet my friend, the governor of georgia. he's going to be the next nominee in 1976 and that was, this was in miami. in 1972. so nobody was taking it seriously. and then i mean, i think about all of the interviews i've done
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and the trips to haiti and cuba. the places around the world when he was reporting in from pyongyang and jimmy carter was there and going public with his impressions of north korea at the time before he told the white house and president clinton was not happy. >> not at all. >> you know the history there. but i keep thinking about rosalynn and they're such a team and here in these however long they have together, at least on this earth, i keep thinking of how is she and how she will do. >> first of all, it's i think greatly appreciated that you would be saying this now. they have great respect and admiration for you. both professionally and personally. so my understanding is that this decision to go into hospice was precipitated be a recent illness. but president carter decided he didn't want to spend any of his
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remaining time away from rosalynn. when he was in the hospital, of course she couldn't spend the night there with him. so he just decided that all of his remaining time would be with her. they've been married for almost 77 years. they have known each other since shortly after her birth. she was delivered by jimmy carter's mother. so they had known each other for more than 95 years and they have a bond that is simply extraordinary and will endure into eternity. >> well, it's so touching and your understanding of him, your book is just magnificent. thank you. thanks to kelly, my friend, thanks for being there and our live is with them, and prayers. and the sky is the limit.
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you live with your parents, but you own a house in the metaverse? mhm. cool...i don't get it. here's to getting financially ready for anything! and here's to being single and ready to mingle. who's ready to cha-cha?! ♪ yeah, yeah ♪ as the war is reaching its one-year mark this week. in a letter obtained by nbc news, they urged ukraine -- including the f-16 fighting falcon aircraft as soon as possible. but national security officials are saying the fighter jets would not fit ukraine's current war needs and would require too much training for ukrainian pilots to use. one of those lawmakers is colorado democrat, jason crow. he joins me from brussels. congressman, thank you very
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much. the u.s. is against this. they say the fear of escalating this war. they don't think they could be used in time for the current offensive, which is already starting. so make your best case argument. >> hi, andrea. i'm here in brussels as part of the nato parliamentary assembly, which is basically nato's parliament. countries appoint members of their own congress to the larger bodies. we've been having discussions with nato members and i was in the munich security conference a couple of days before that. so i've been talking about this with international and nato defense leaders and a couple of things are clear. number one, the ukrainians have an advantage right now, but it will not last. number two, if they have to go on the offensive and before season ends, otherwise, the russians will rebuild their military power and continue to try to press this fight. for all that to happen,
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ukrainians need to fight differently. they need to have a deep fight and have combined arms fight. fire and maneuver, which means they have to establish air sue per yorty, which they haven't been able to do since the first days of the war which means they need fourth generation fighters. that might mean an f-16, 18, but they need more advanced aircrafts. that's why we've been pressing the administration on a bipartisan basis to help them advance their air force to give them what they need to fight and win. >> now, also in munich when i was there, vice president harris said as you know that russia has committed crimes against humanity. i was talking to the deputy attorney general, lisa monaco, about that, and what the justice department can do to hold putin accountable. here's what she said. >> we've been working with our ukrainian partners to collect evidence, analyze it to bring cases. we're bringing cases of our own
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and last year, the congress gave us new authority to prosecute war criminals if they are found in the united states. so that there's no safe haven and the united states isn't a safe haven for war criminals. >> when we talk about accountability, congressman, i was told one of the big issues here under constitutional law and international law is that this establishing crimes against humanity could establish a basis for reparations, that russia would eventually when this is over, help, be required to help rebuild ukraine. is that in the cards? >> i personally think it should be. there's a couple of things going on here. number one, we need to help the ukrainians train their prosecutors, investigators, to document these war crimes. number two is the international community led by the united states should use its intelligence tools to help collect evidence of these war crimes and crimes against humanity. in fact, i led an effort on the
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intelligence community to put into our annual intelligence funding bill, an authorization for our intelligence community to use our tools, surveillance tools and technology, to actually collect this evidence and then forward it to prosecutors for use. number three, there needs to be a worldwide effort to find the perpetrators of these crimes at all levels from lowest ranking soldiers to commanders in the russian army ordering these atrocities and bring them to justice. that will be in various forums. there's multiple things that need to happen, but i will say it is shocking to the conscious what russia is doing. from raping young young girls t bombing water and food infrastructure, trying to starve and freeze the ukrainian people to now kidnapping literally thousands of ukrainian children from ukrainian-seized territory, sending them to camps and trying
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toctrinate these children. it has to stop. >> some house republicans from the freedom caucus or the maga republicans, whatever you want to call him, they're attacking president biden for going to ukraine on twitter saying he should be at our southern border here or in east palestine, ohio, not supporting this foreign war. you want to react to that? >> i don't even know how to react to it because it's not really worth my brain space to spend time responding to fools. these people know nothing about national security and foreign policy. they don't understand that it's no our strategic interest and our security interests and the american people's interests to have a stable, free and prosperous and free europe and free world. that's what this fight is about. it's not mutually exclusive eitherment we can have a secure border and be engaged in the world.
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in fact, the united states of america has done that for a very long time and done it successfully. we can continue to do that. i'm here, by the way, on a bipartisan delegation. the leader of our delegation is a republican. more republicans. there's a very small number of people who make a lot of noise, but not a lot of people pay attention to them because it's frankly just not worth it. >> thank you so up many, congressman jason crow. thank you for your service on all fronts. really appreciate it. >> thank you. we have breaking news, terrible news from turkey. more than 41,000 people are dead after that massive earthquake two weeks ago. today another 6.4 magnitude quake has hit the same province that has suffered so much death and destruction back on february 6th. these are initial reports of damaged buildings collapsing. there are no reported casualties from this latest quake. members of the white helmets, the wonderful relief group in
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syria say there have been moderate aftershocks in that country's northeast region. no word on any additional damages at this hour. secretary blinken was there just this weekend after being in munich and has now arrived in greece for the rest of his trip. russia's brutal assault on ukraine, which we've been reporting on, has caused millions of ukrainians to flee their country, millions more to be displaced internally. thousands have come to the u.s. in the years since the war began. many are finding their way to chicago where a large community has welcomed them with housing and food and clothing and jobs. i visited them last week. i found people torn between their gratitude for this safe haven and a longing to return to their homeland. >> reporter: in the heart of chicago, a refuge for families fleeing the war. >> what was that like? >> it was awful when we need to wake up at 3:00 a.m. at night
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and to go to bomb shelter. >> reporter: oksana and her 3-year-old son sasha escaped in the early days of fighting. >> did sasha get scared? >> maybe he didn't understand what happened. i said sasha, everything okay. >> reporter: she made the difficult decision to leave her homeland and head to poland, leaving behind a husband fighting in the ukrainian army. >> when we buy a ticket to bus from lviv to poland, when we sit in the chair on the bus, we hug each other, and now he fear that he'll never see us again. >> but he will. >> hopefully he will, yeah. it's very difficult. sasha is crying, i'm crying. and when bus was away, i put my
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hand on the window and he put his hand on the window and say goodbye. >> reporter: since the start of the war the u.s. has accepted thousands of ukrainians. in chicago the century-old neighborhood known as ukrainian village has become a safe haven for many refugees. at st. nicolas cathedral they're bidding a new community. >> originally when people were asking how many refugees can you take, i was like, 50? we didn't think 75. the doorbell continues to ring almost every day. >> reporter: the school is creating a home far from their embattled homeland. many teachers speak their language, teach ukrainian culture and music, helping the children cope with the haunting memories of war. these ukrainian children share the pain of a common journey, leaving home and family behind and carrying with them the fear
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of never seeing their loved ones again: in these few city blocks, oksana and sasha have found a refuge until they know what the future holds. anna and the school have found their mission. >> we go into education because we're passionate about children and passionate about the future of our country and the future of our society, and so to be able to do this for these 75 children is an honor. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: as more and more families look to st. nick's for refuge, the school is worried their funds will run out. however, the st. nicolas principal assured me that they, like the rest of the world, don't know how long this war is going to last. the ukrainian village community and st. nicolas will be there for those seeking refuge for as long as it takes. they're going to commemorate this anniversary with prayer and
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