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today's headline from the national review. president biden in kyiv, walking in a war zone amidair raid sirens and no real guarantee of security. the white house took all the steps it could, slipping out of d.c. in secret early sunday morning, swearing the reporters on board to silence, even taking their phones. air force one got him as far as poland, but after that, no marine 1. potentially no beast either. the president's legendary bombproof limo. the white house is being tight lipped about every detail so far. president biden relied on the ukrainian rail service, a ten-hour train journey from the border to kyiv. a source familiar tells nbc news the president could have gone to other easier to access locations inside of ukraine, but that he chose kyiv to highlight the capital is still standing. and he did, making a point of

declaring it such, and promising that the u.s. will help as long as it takes. we have details on what went into this extraordinary trip along with what russia knew about it. that's interesting. keir simmons is with us from moscow coming up. he'll have russia's reaction and word on what a top official is doing at the kremlin today, and also why the u.s. is worried about that. let us start with our reporters fanned out from europe to eastern washington, d.c., joining me now is white house continue, kristen welker, in poland, mike memoli in washington, and chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell, and kristen welker, chief white house correspondent, i should say. the president was in poland a year ago, and he was warning that putin cannot remain in power. i know we're sending more aid to

ukraine today. what is his message going to be when he gets to where you are? >> reporter: i think you're going to see him build on the message he laid out today in kyiv standing shoulder to shoulder with president zelenskyy which is that the united states stand with ukraine and will be with ukraine for as long as it takes. he announced the military aid you talked about, half a billion dollars, and he really tried to make the point both in terms of the optics and the words that he used, powerful words to say that ukraine still stands, democracy still stands. of course the challenge moving forward, how to keep the global community unified in this fight. republicans have said they're not going to write a blank check to ukraine. that's part of the message when he speaks in warsaw tomorrow, and he's going to build on the

message we heard from the vice president over the weekend, accusing vladimir putin of crimes against humanity. andrea asked the vice president about that, and he is going to argue that putin should be held responsible, so more powerful when we hear from president biden tomorrow in warsaw. >> we have seen aid go to ukraine. any word on sanctions? i know there's limited ability of what we can do when vladimir putin is still in power. you can say he has been committing war crimes, but actually convicting him or prosecuting him for those war crimes is a tall task. >> reporter: it certainly is. the president announcing more sanctions on this trip, a series of sanctions that the united states and other global and european allies have announced against russia. and it hasn't deterred vladimir putin. yes, it has impacted the russian economy significantly. but the u.s. and ukraine bracing for russia to ramp up and a new

offensive in the east. and so the challenge becomes, is this a pivotal moment and what if anything can be done, and that's where the military support comes in. now, of course, president zelenskyy has asked for f-16 fighter jets, even though the u.s. has ramped up military support and other european allies. they're not sending the f 16 fighter jets, expect that to be a key focus. >> erin mclaughlin joins us from kyiv. there's heavy fighting in the east, and there are concerns about a new russian offensive and worries that ukrainian forces won't be able to withstand just the sheer number of soldiers that russia is able to throw at this war. talk to me about what it meant for ukrainians and what it meant for the mood in that country to have the president visit? >> reporter: well, this is being seen by ukrainians as a huge

confidence boost, the show of american support and solidarity. the timing of today's visit was very significant to ukrainians. today is the anniversary of the death of the heavenly hundred, the more than 100 men and women who died in the midon square, in the uprising against the russian-backed regime in kyiv nine years ago. today was the 9th anniversary of their deaths, and in the eyes of many ukrainians, sort of the opening salvo to what then evolved into a nine-year war, a war that they are still fighting to this very day. at the same time, while this is being seen as significant, there has been quite a bit of attention paid to the security package that the president announced today on his visit to the capital, the half billion dollars, mainly comprised of ammunition, badly needed ammunition. there are reports they are running out of ammunition there

on the front lines, and the face of what may be the start of that russian offensive. however, there is some disappointment that the president did not take this opportunity to take things a step further in terms of that support, namely the fighter jets, the long range missiles that kyiv has been asking for, katy. >> mike memoli, let's talk about what went into this trip. i laid out some of it at the top of the show. it was an early morning sunday flight. nobody was able to talk about it. the phones were taken away from reporters. what i find the most striking, mike, is we're used to seeing the president travel only in american vehicles, only travel by air force one or marine one or the beast, and in this, he had to get on a train, a ukrainian train because that's really the only way to get safely and safely in quotes, all the way to kyiv. >> yeah, that's right, katy. in the years since russia's invasion of ukraine, we have

seen, for instance, secretary of state tony blinken travel twice. one of those times with the defense secretary, lloyd austin. we've seen nancy pelosi lead delegations, and leader mcconnell into kyiv. i was with the first lady when she went into western ukraine, travel big car, all prominent americans to be sure but not the president of the united states, and it is that train travel, which has long been seen as a hurdle towards the president ever going there. there was doubt president biden would be able to go. i'm told by senior administration officials that the calculus around this did change two months ago when another clandestine visit happened. it was when president zelenskyy made that surprise trip here to washington and addressed a session of congress after meeting here at the white house and it was at that point officials were pleasantly surprised, i should say, at just how positive, how strong the reaction was. they wanted to keep the momentum

going, and eyeing the anniversary of russia's invasion as a time to make a similarly bold gesture. that's when the discussions of how to get the president traveling into ukraine safely intensified and it was a risky move. one that paid off and led to a powerful moment like the one we heard earlier today. let's take a listen. >> one year later, kyiv stands and ukraine stands. the american stands with you, and the world stands with you. >> reporter: it's another thing, of course, katy, to have the president deliver the message on ukrainian soil, and just as an indication of how close hold this was, only a very small number of administration officials were aware of it. just two weeks ago, for instance, the vice president's staff was told they needed to cut short her planned visit to the munich security conference where andrea traveled with her

just over the weekend. they needed to cut it short a day because she needed to be back in washington on saturday night. they weren't given a reason why they had to do that. they were just told this was nonnegotiable. president biden as we know left washington in the very early hours sunday morning. >> she had to be back because the president was leaving. that's clear now. andrea mitchell, it was extraordinary to see him in kyiv today, an active war zone, one where there is no u.s. military presence. people have made some comparisons to former presidents traveling to iraq or afghanistan. i was struck that even the national review has said this was not at all the same. this was a different scenario, and they were praising the visit. can you root it for us in living history, what it means to have the president go there? >> it's such a big deal. it's not only symbolic, it's important to show that he thought it was safe enough to go to kyiv and to be one on one, face to face, on television, relying on their security, really, writ large as mike was

just pointing out, and i think another part of the decoy, mike can bear this out for me, i don't think the president and first lady go out for dinner in public on a friday night, as of saturday night, they were in d.c. having dinner in a restaurant. that was unusual. he wasn't at camp david or delaware. they did everything they could to keep secrecy. it was really important, and i talked to keir simmons about this earlier, so important that they did tell russia, they told us that they told russia a couple of hours in advance, and it's so clear that russia would not want to be taking out an american president, that would be an escalation beyond belief. that train was manageably safe. we're told on a call from white house officials that the president decided this on friday, that the risk was manageable, and it was very well done, coordinating effect from

the intelligence as well as the security, the secret service, obviously, but closely held as kristen was reporting. and another reason why it's so important that they were face-to-face is not only the public display, there are some really big issues that cannot be decided easily or communicated easily to zelenskyy, what are his bottom lines, our bottom lines, what could be negotiable, what is he intending to do about crimea. there's a lot of nervousness among the allies about what he might do with certain other weapons in crimea, if things don't go well in the ground war as they want to be offensive against this russian offensive which has already started on the ground. richard engel has said looks like world war i, we know how devastating that is. they're in a tough spot. they have all kinds of advantages, they have more manpower, cannon fodder, prisoners in the wagner groups and others that he can throw at it, and doesn't care how many people die. he doesn't have to worry about public opinion.

in long-term in a war of attrition, he's had an advantage. doesn't have the moral weight. doesn't have the passion that they have for their own freedom. so there had to be that kind of communication. there has to be a negotiation somewhere. at some point there has to be an end game, and that's the kind of thing that man to man, if you will, they probably had one on one, and this was the moment for that. >> president to president. again, we are four days from marking the year, a year since russia invaded. it was february 24th of last year. thank you for starting us off. joining me from kyiv, joining me is adviser to president zelenskyy, igor nogof. disappointment for not getting an announcement for longer range missiles and fighter jets, which i know president zelenskyy has been asking for for quite some time. how is it playing, this visit, this image of the president of

the united states walking side by side with the president of ukraine out in the open as air-raid sirens are blaring? >> well, first of all, let me give you some context. the last president of the u.s. to visit kyiv was george w. bush in, i believe, 2008. so a presidential visit is a big deal for kyiv. especially kyiv fighting a war. the second point to give you the convection is, you know, the stark contrast with what was happening a year ago, so roughly a year ago the american embassy in kyiv was packing its bags and leaving. everyone was leaving. kyiv was meant to fall in three day, everyone believed that, and now we have the president of the united states standing on the ground in kyiv with the air-raid sirens, and not afraid, and that's important, and it's important, why, because, you know, he's disarmed putin of his

most effective weapon, fear, by simply coming here. it's the most welcome visit of the year. >> expand on that. that's interesting you say that, it's disarmed putin of the weapon of fear. what does that mean? >> well, let me give you my personal experience, probably the most frightening attack was the first one, the explosions aren't that scary, you know, the security situation can be managed, but it's the fear of uncertainty that gets you, and once we learned the patterns of the missile attacks, nobody pays attention to them anymore. we go on about our daily lives. that has been up lifted to the presidential level. the first leaders of western countries started coming here, and then we have, you know, the leader of the free world standing here, although we have

no protection from hyper sonic missiles, and the only thing that's kind of preventing a major escalation or attack on the u.s. president is that, you know, matter of fact warning to russia, the president is coming, don't you do anything stupid. that's bravery, and president biden, by the way, got his plaque on the walk of the brave outside of ukraine's parliament today. >> and the reason the air-raid sirens went off is a fighter jet took off, i think, from belarus, and the hyper sonic missiles that you're talking about that kyiv does not have the ability to shoot down. this war could go on for a lot longer. are you envisioning an end to it and what that end might look like? >> well, i definitely don't want to think about an end. it definitely ends in a victory, but it's just the question of what that victory is, and that's highly dependent on many things. you know, the number of soldiers we have on the front line, our

economy is doing, volunteers are doing. all of that is secondary. the most important thing is weapons. you know, fighting hundreds of thousands of convicts, you know, with bare hands is way more difficult than having advanced weapons and defending. >> igor, thank you very much for joining us as always, but especially on this day. joining me now is "new york times" chief white house correspondent, and political analyst, peter baker. always good to have you as well. i want to start with what i started with, the national review saying this trip took guts, and again, they're distinguishing it from other trips presidents have made to afghanistan and iraq, likening it more to american presidents visiting europe during other times of war. what does it say to russia that biden was willing to make this trip? >> yeah, i think it says a couple of things. first of all, it says i'm here and you're not, right. if vladimir putin were asked a year ago this time which

president was going to be in kyiv, he wouldn't have thought president biden. would have been under russian control at that point. he was obviously mistaken. president biden is sending a message to vladimir putin saying you have lost so far, we are going to stay here. we are going to continue to help the ukrainians to defeat your invaders, and don't think that we're getting to tired of it. the second audience, i think, for his message was back here on the united states, same message but explaining why. it was interesting during the state of the union address last week, he didn't spend a lot of time explaining to americans, why ukraine matters to them, why he has invested so measure treasure of their taxpayer dollars in this war. so much resources of the american economy in more than $100 billion under his and congress's plans so far, and here he does that. he does explain why. he explains this is about democracy. he explains this is about american interests, not just ukrainian interests, that if we don't stop russia here, there's obviously a consequence later on. he's going to make that point in warsaw. both audiences were listening

today. >> we have reaction from a number of republicans, and we can put up on the screen, the collage of their tweets today. this is everyone from marjorie taylor greene to andy biggs, the u.s. war in ukraine is a like a proxy war, but now more like a u.s./china war through ukraine, russian war, end it now. talking about continuing to fund it, what's the outlook for getting house republicans on his side to continue to send aid to ukraine? i know mitch mcconnell, republicans in the senate are on board, so are democrats, what about the house republicans? >> i think most house republicans are still on board with the bipartisan consensus behind the aid to ukraine. before republicans took over, the last house passed another 50 billion dollars to aid in ukraine. there's plenty of money to fund

more weaponry and aid to the ukrainians for a while. so they won't come up with, you know, a confrontation over this. kevin mccarthy said at one point during last year's campaign there should be a blank check for ukraine. as soon as mitch mcconnell pushed back on him, mccarthy quieted off. he's not been repeating that. the ones you just showed right now, sort of the pro russia caucus, probably not the right way to put it, but the caucus skeptical of the war against russia, matt gaetz, et cetera, represent a large group in the caucus, and they can have an influence when you have narrow majority. fatigue as to why we're spending money over there when we have priority over here. it's not surprising they might think that. a recent poll shows 48% of americans at this point support sending more money over there, like 30 some oppose it. that's down from 60% last may. there is some drainage of that, some softening of that support, and that's one of the reasons i

think president biden went. >> let me ask you this, this is what i have been so curious about today. what does a call between the u.s. and russia sound like when they say, hey, by the way, the president's coming, we want to warn you, hold your fire? >> yeah, we have a little bit of experience with this in the middle east. remember, american troops, american proxy troops and russian troops were in syria. we tried to deconflict, that's the word the pentagon uses, to let them know our troops would be in a certain area, planes in a certain airspace and to warn them, a, don't misunderstand who the people are, and don't get in conflict with them. it will end well. the warning here is a military to military thing. you have to understand the president of the united states is coming and actually, it's not in russia's interest to do anything about that. it would be a catastrophically bad idea to let the russians happen to the president of the united states.

it would rally the world against them more than they are. there's always the danger that of course, the trick of a trip like this, that there are rogue elements you can't control that aren't on order from moscow. >> what do you make of the big taking off from belarus and triggering the air-raid siren? >> probably a little bit of saber rallying, we're here, we're in charge in this part of the world no matter what you think. obviously it didn't stop president biden, and what was striking was watching him walk down that path unflustered, clearly by the air-raid sirens going on around him. that sent a strong message to moscow. >> it was amazing. peter baker, thank you very much. and we have more breaking news out of turkey, another earthquake, 6.3 magnitude after shock hit the south of the country along the syrian border, shaking some of the same places that traumatized survivors are living in tents. it is not clear the amount of additional damage this quake caused or if there was anymore loss of life.

the death toll from the first two earthquakes the other week now stands at more than 44,000 people. and still ahead, what the kremlin is saying about president biden's surprise trip to kooech. -- kyiv. we're live in moscow. and what ron desantis is doing that is increasing speculation for a 2024 bid. residents are experiencing unusual symptoms. what they're sending to the residents of east palestine. se residents of east palestine. to find options within your budget. good luck young man. realtor.com to each their home. think he's posting about all that ancient roman coinage? no. he's making real-time money moves with merrill. so no matter what the market's doing, he's ready. and that's... how you collect coins. your money never stops working for you with merrill, a bank of america company.

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joining me from chicago is shaq brewster, what's he saying to these police unions? >> that schedule that you mentioned, it certainly resembles or mirrors what you would see out of a presidential candidate. his team is saying that's not what this trip is about. this is essentially about recruiting and setting a clear pro law enforcement message. i'm told that his speech in chicago, as you mentioned coming up in about an hour or so will mirror what we heard this morning where we heard him talk to new york law enforcement and also philadelphia law enforcement saying essentially your cities aren't protecting you. they're not valuing your service. so come to florida where we do it right. he talks about things like the signing bonus for officers who are newly employed in florida. i want you to listen to the message he has been touting in the democratically run cities. >> why is crime is a big issue in new york or chicago or all of these other places? the reason why you have what you have in some of these other jurisdictions is because they're

putting woke ideology ahead of your safety. so what have we done in florida? when they were talking about defunding police and slashing budgets, we said not on my watch. >> reporter: these visits have not only been getting a lot of attention, but receiving significant pushback. we saw mayor eric adams tweet that desantis should learn from new york values. governor pritzker said that desantis was dangerous and had no place to be in illinois. one thing that's clear it is doing is garnering that attention, and this is also creating that speculation about 2024, which he was asked about this morning, katy, and he said that he wants to let the book sale, he has a book coming out next week, he wants to go on the book tour, and then he wants the start of that legislative session, which is slated to start mid march, he wants to complete his legislative session before making announcements or getting to that part of the conversation, katy.

it's clear here's starting the conversation by having the trips and visits in these cities. >> he's not giving any definitive answer that says, no, i'm not running. have we seen him travel to iowa? >> we have not. he has an iowa trip scheduled. i shouldn't say scheduled. he was invited for a cattle call, one of the first cattle calls in iowa. we don't know if he'll show up there yet. we're going to see him appear across the country with the book tour. we know california and texas are on the agenda. you're going to see a lot more ron desantis in the months to come. >> shaq brewster, thank you very much. congress is out for the holiday and so is a batch of their mail. house oversight has sent multiple letters to biden family members and associates demanding documents and communications. so what exactly are they looking for? joining me now is capitol hill correspondent garrett haake, no subpoenas yet but letters

demanding more information. what do they want? >> reporter: the golden age of letter writing continues, and as our viewers became familiar with during the january 6th investigation, a letter without a subpoena attached to it is often more of a suggestion. the first batch of letters have due dates for information this week, all focusing on president biden and his family members. the first one on the 20th is to kathy chung, thought to be a pivotal figure in the biden classified documents story line. i'm told the oversight committee is in some contact with her, although it's not clear when they might get what they asked for in terms of a transcribed interview with her. on the 22nd, a series of biden family members and business associates, part of the oversight committee's look into hunter biden and his business dealings, with the center piece of how they operate, and then as we get into next month, we start to see some of these subpoenas with a focus on the fbi, and how they have been handling issues around schools and education.

if i were a betting person, i would say those are the ones more likely to be responded to in some capacity. there you have the judiciary committee which has oversight, and controls the financial future of the fbi in their hands. they've got a little bit more cards to play, and i think you're more likely to see some senior officials be forced to cooperate, whether it's chris wray that gets hauled before the committee or not, remains to be seen. >> i'm hearing a lot about investigations, not hearing as much about legislation planning to come to the floor. any word on any legislation? >> reporter: this is the reality of the republican majority as it stands right now. it is much easier to get your xi organized, to go after the president, to conduct oversight over an agency than it is to come up with 218 votes to pass anything. this majority that has struggled with signature bills, a border bill, getting the votes they need to pass it. no immediate prospects of seeing any of that kind of signature legislation come to the floor, and at least immediately when

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president biden has officially made it out of ukraine. he got back to poland the same way he went into kyiv, by train. something of a ten-hour journey. the pool says the trip was uneventful. again, president biden got to poland in just the last few minutes. also, there are increasing concerns today that two of the most powerful countries in the world may be weighing a dangerous collaboration that would undermine u.s. efforts and potentially threaten the global conflict. after a meeting with china's top diplomat, antony blinken says there's a reason beijing may offer military aid to russia. such an alliance would spark quote serious consequences. as nbc news correspondent janis mackey frayer reports, beijing is pushing back. >> reporter: china is hitting back at accusations that beijing

is considering providing military assistance to russia in its war with ukraine. at the foreign ministry here today, a spokesperson said quote it is the u.s. that has been continuously providing weapons to the war. the u.s. is not qualified to give orders to china. now, the timing of this warning from the u.s. is no coincidence. it comes as china's top diplomat is paying a visit to moscow. there are no details on any underlying intelligence the u.s. has that would prompt this sort of warning or explanation as to why the u.s. is being so public in its thoughts on beijing. but this is not a new concern for the u.s. given the close personal ties between the leaders of china and russia. >> joining me with the view from russia is nbc news chief international correspondent keir simmons who's in moscow for us. let's start with president biden visiting kyiv today. what has been the reaction from the kremlin?

>> reporter: well, they don't like it. there are noises from the kremlin of fury, rather than diplomacy, not necessarily specifically about that trip but certainly about the vice president's description of russia as committing crimes against humanity. certainly they're very unhappy with a u.s. official suggesting that that should put pressure on president putin. we're waiting for president putin to give a keynote speech tomorrow, his version o. state of the union to the russian parliament, and i suspect there will be no compromise in that speech. i suspect that he will double down and continue to put the blame on the u.s., and, you know, i think that trip, katy, to ukraine by president biden, i suspect that you'll see the russians begin to say that, look, here we go. here's another example that, in fact, kyiv and president zelenskyy are really just

america. our big problem is america, we are here in this battle facing down america. that is the message that president putin is giving to the russian people, and i think you'll see more about that. >> what about the visit from the top chinese diplomat to the kremlin, did he meet with vladimir putin? and any word on coordination? >> reporter: we don't know whether he has been here. he has been scheduled to be here. he was in hungary, which of course is the european country that is more smiles more on russia and on china. i think what you're probably seeing is china trying to bring a coalition towards negotiations and peace, and a coalition of countries that kind of support its view. you know, i suspect in beijing there is more concern than they necessarily are showing those statements that janis mackey frayer was reading. they will be very worried about the fact that china's economy

has those massive ties, not just to the u.s. but to europe, and how important parts of europe like germany, for example, will be viewing china's position, and how can china walk this line? it definitely wants to support russia but doesn't want to alienate particularly europe, and this news from the u.s. that it thinks that china is considering sending lethal weapons to russia won't be helpful there either, and frankly, i think that's why the u.s. has allowed that to be known. so very difficult diplomacy for china perhaps not feeling as bullish as they are trying to appear on the world stage. >> keir simmons in moscow, thank you. and coming up, he left the white house, not for corporate boards or cushy consulting gigs, he didn't even get a new house. what has made president jimmy carter stand apart all of these years and what is his warning? what's he worried about for the

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