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airline gate agents who don't have to try to play musical chairs. >> tom, thank you for that report. and we've got a lot to cover in our second hour of chris jansing reports. let's get right to it. tough talk. president biden in poland says ukraine will never be a victory for russia ahead of the first anniversary of the war. watching wall street and your wallet. stocks are tumbling this hour on new worries about inflation that won't seem to go away. and at the supreme court, arguments in a case that could change the internet and social media as we know it. we're also in jimmy carter's georgia hometown where there's an overwhelming show of support for our 39th president and his family after his decision to start receiving home hospice care. our reporters are here to cover all of the latest developments. let's start with keir simmons in
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moscow where putin spent this morning trying to justify his war in ukraine to the russian people. you know, keir, for his part, president biden seemed to speak directly to the russian people, saying putin chose this war. the west was never planning to attack russia, but my understanding is russian tv didn't air biden's speech. so what did the russian people hear from their president? >> reporter: for president putin, it was an uncompromising and at times, hard to comprehend speech, chris. he used the word, war, a number of times and folks who pay close attention will know that's usual for putin. he calls the invasion of ukraine his special military operation and described this as a war with the west. a war for russia's survival. suppose you could say in that one respect, one word, there was agreement between president biden and putin.
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the word war. and i suppose you could also say some agreement that this is more now than a conflict over territory. it's a conflict over ideas. but as you rightly suggest, one of the differences in president biden's speech, he spoke about putin directly. about what putin has said, pushing back on the idea that the west started this war as putin alleged. in putin's speech, he never once mentioned president biden or president biden's trip to ukraine yesterday or any of the ideas that president biden has been putting forward, except that he attacked what he calls the collective west. we were told putin wouldn't watch biden's speech, but be briefed on it later and the russian people, well, they can see it if they want to online if they have that capability, but president putin's speech was shown on television screens across moscow and russia. i'll tell you one thing, chris. we just went out tonight in
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moscow to ask their opinion of president putin's speech. again and again, they said we don't want to talk about politics. opinions here are the front line and many are keeping their heads down. >> thank you for that. later this hour, we're going to talk to someone who helped negotiate the nuclear arms treaty putin suspended today. michael mcfaul. now to the selloff on wall street gaining steam today with the dow down more than 600. 642 points right now. cnbc's bob pisani is with us from the new york stock exchange. what the heck is going on? >> well, chris, there's two problems. we're down 2%. this is the lows for the day. today we had earnings from some big retailers. home depot was a disappointment. this is a big bellwether for the u.s. economy. particularly people fixing up their homes. earnings were dispointing and the guidance, the indications of future profits were disappointing as well, indicating the consumer might be slowing down and the consumer
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has been strong recently. that's the one worry. the bigger worry is about inflation. there are concerns here that inflation is going to remain higher for longer and because of is that, the federal reserve is going to keep interest rates higher for longer and the issue is how high is it going to go? we don't want to go back to 7% mortgage rates like we had at the end of last year and we've been down into the 6% range going down. we don't want it going back up. and how long is it going to be higher? we don't want interest rates too high. we want them down in the lower end range and we want inflation down towards 2 or 3%. right now though, it's tracking around 6%. it had been going down. it still is trending down. just not going down fast enough to suit the stock market and that's got some people worried here at this point that the economy might slow down more later in the year as the fed just doesn't take its foot off the brakes to stop inflation. >> we'll keep our eye on those
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numbers. thank you for that. also today, the supreme court is hearing oral arguments in a case that as "the washington post" puts it, could transform the internet. yamiche is outside the supreme court. what could this case mean for us who all use the internet, but also for big tech? >> well, chris, gonzalez v. google really could reshape the internet as we know it. it's seen as one of the most consequential cases to come before the supreme court in terms of internet government nance. at the center is a federal law, section 230 of the communications decency act. passed in 1996, the early day os f the internet. seen as the bedrock of the internet in some ways. it says websites can't be held liable for content others put on it. it's about google and youtube and their algorithms. there's a father suing google and is focusing on youtube because his daughter was killed in a terrorist attack in paris
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while studying abroad. he's saying they should not create an algorithm to recommend terrorist videos. this is a really interesting oral argument. take a listen to one moment here with elena kagan. you hear the laughter, but also the confusion. >> i can imagine a world where you write that none of this stuff gets protection and you know, every other industry has to internalize the costs of misconduct. why is it that the tech industry gets a pass? a little bit unclear. on the other hand, i mean, we're a court. we really don't know about these things. you know, these are not like the nine greatest experts on the internet. >> reporter: so there you have it. she underscores that moment saying we're not experts on the internet. underscores what you heard over and over where you heard both
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justices seen as liberal and conservatives saying this is really complicated stuff. if you're someone using the internet, back in the 1990s, there was a lot of topics that platforms shouldn't be held accountable for the content on their websites. you you think of twitter and facebook and people attacking them for spreading election interference, misinformation. so a big decision here for the supreme court and it could impact the way the internet, if they rule against google here. it's going to be interesting. section 230 is expansive. it could be a narrow decision based on the algorithms or it could be something bigger. >> we will wait, but i think that's right. nine non-experts on all of this. including most people in the world on that. let's go to priscilla thompson in plains, georgia. the tiny town, about 500 people. gained fame as the home of former president carter, who has
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now gone into hospice care. this is a very somber watch, but also in some ways from what i've been hearing from plains, joyful. because so many people there know him and love him and have great stories about him, right? >> reporter: absolutely. and it's been an interesting time here with the decision by the carter center to announce that the former president would be entering home hospice care because it has allowed this window of time and this opportunity for people who are not from plains to come here and seek connection with the former president during this time. i met a family that had driven in from atlanta. they were on their way here when this news was announced and the 11-year-old son in the family had done a project on president carter and they were so excited to be coming here. they had hoped to meet the president and instead, i found them at the president's childhood home today. i asked them about what it was like to be here in this moment
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and why, what president carter means to them. i want to play a bit of that conversation. >> very sad. i wanted him to live, like forever. >> he's been our greatest ex-president. because of everything that he's done since he was in office. >> reporter: and that grandfather, henry bryant, that you heard from there, he went on to talk about all of those things that president carter has done. saying that he could have left office in shame after not winning that second term but he didn't do that. he returned here to plains. he founded the carter center. he continued to work on fighting for peace and human rights around the globe. he worked with habitat for humanity, volunteering and working on more than 4,000 homes. and he still made time to be here in plains and to teach sunday school throughout the years. that grandfather there, henry,
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he also mentioned the nobel peace prize that president carter won. then they said to me that perhaps president carter's greatest prize is right around the corner. that is also a sentiment i've heard from so many people here. president carter is a man of deep faith and many in this community feel that there is an even greater prize waiting for him as he spends his remaining days here surrounded by his family. >> what a beautiful and thoughtful family you spoke with. appreciate it. coming up, could another cold war be on the horizon after putin pulled back from the last remaining nuclear arms treaty with the u.s.? we'll ask someone who helped negotiate it. plus, alex murdaugh's only surviving son takes the stand. will it help his father's defense? plus, the epa going after norfolk southern today after that toxic train derailment in ohio. what exactly the rail company has to pay for. you're watching chris jansing reports only on msnbc. s only on. .
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fears of a new cold war are growing after putin announced that russia is suspending the last remaining nuclear treaty with the united states. this coming hours after the kremlin warned a u.s. ambassador that america's current course is only serving to quote, deepen confrontation with russia in all directions. i want to bring in former u.s. ambassador to russia, michael mcfaul, who was part of the negotiations that led to the new start treaty. also an msnbc international affairs analyst. couldn't have a more perfect guest, ambassador. so let me start with your reaction to putin's decision to suspend the new start treaty. >> well, i think it's very disappointing and i don't think it's in russia's own national interest. remember, the russians didn't sign that treaty as a gift to the united states of america. i was at the signing ceremony with president obama in prague with president medvedev. president medvedev signed that
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treaty and his parliament ratified it because they believed it was in russia's national interest to reduce by 30% the nuclear weapons in the world. he thought it was in russia's national interest to have inspections regimes so that we could reduce uncertainty about what we are doing with our nuclear arsonal and what they are doing and these treaties have served us well deep into the cold war in terms of stabilizing our relationship and our perceptions about our nuclear arsonals. so i think this was made in spite. it was made because he's angry. i don't think it's in russia's long-term national interest and i hope over years to come, russian leaders will reconsider what i think to be a very bad decision today. >> yes, spite's an interesting word. putin said today that the west is trying to turn this into a global conflict. that the west started all of this. but when he makes a move like this, do you see this as an actual growing threat that this fight could extend beyond
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ukraine's borders? is it bluster? is it tough talk? how do you view it? what's putin thinking? >> first, to underscore what you just pointed out in this speech, i think a lot of americans don't listen to putin as much i do so they don't hear this. putin is not in his view, he's not fighting ukrainians in ukraine. he's fighting us. he's fighting nato. that's the way he explains why his army is doing so poorly. they were just fighting against the ukrainians, that would be one thing, but he constantly frames this as a war to defend russia against alleged, you know, threatening forces from nato and the united states of america. that's the bad news. the good news is that i am deeply impressed with what president biden has done to lead the nato alliance to deter putin from attacking a nato nation. i think it's very, very unlikely that this war in ukraine leads to world war iii precisely
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because the president has built up nato. he had said as he did in warsaw today, not one inch, we'll defend all that territory. so far, we see no signs putin is ready to attack estonia, poland or any other member of the alliance. that's a gre achievement for president biden so far. >> can we talk about messaging? because at least in the translation i heard in his speech, notable for his absence was extensive setbacks on the battlefield, the loss of life for russian soldiers. hundreds of thousands of russians leaving the country. well over a million or more. so when it comes to the russian people when they listen to him, i don't know if you heard keir earlier, one of the folks he talked to on the streets of moscow didn't want to say anything about what they thought of the speech, but are they buying what he's selling? >> that's a hard question because it's really hard to do public opinion polling in
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russia. nonresponding rates for polls there are sometimes as high as 80% so that means the only people that support putin are responding. the way i understand it, there's a hard core 20, 25% that supports putin no matter what. there's another hard core that's against this war, 15, 20%. but the vast majority of the people, the people keir was trying to talk to, they don't want to be involved. they want to keep their head down. they want the war to end as soon as possible, but publicly, they're not going to say as much. therefore, yes, they support their president this a time of war, but if putin said tomorrow, declared victory, declared victory over donbas, we want to end this war, the vast majority of russians would rally to his support. >> always great to hear your perspective. thank you so much. we can't forget that as this war drags on, soldiers are fighting
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and dying on both sides in the kind of grinding trench warfare we actually haven't seen in decades. nbc's chief foreign correspondent, richard engel, with more on that now. >> reporter: this is what the front line looks like out here in eastern ukraine. the conditions are very tough because now, the snow is just starting to melt. filling these trenches with mud and the soldiers are here day in, day out, and of course, they're under attack. russian troops are attacking a village about five miles from here right now and soldiers in this position just spotted a russian drone in the air a few minutes ago. and the russians have been using drones mostly to carry out surveillance so they can better direct their artillery fire and find ukrainian troops hidden in trenches like these. this has a world away from kyiv. kyiv was once a major battle zone, but now kyiv is relatively safe because russian troops have been pushed back from kyiv.
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so much so that president biden was able to visit kyiv and was able to walk around the center of the city even though there were air raid sirens, but he was still able to do it with relative safety. and even out here in this remote part of ukraine, word of president biden's visit has arrived and soldiers here say that they were encouraged by that visit. it gave them confidence that the united states and the biden administration is sticking with them and will continue to provide them weapons and ammunition and that is something we hear all the time. not just hear, but that ukrainians need more weapons and ammo because they're able to defend themselves. it's not that the ukrainians feel they're about to get overrun. in fact, ukrainian troops i've been speaking so are not overwhelmingly impressed with what they've seen by the russian offensive so far. the russians launched this new offensive about two weeks ago. but it is very slow going and the russians think, and the ukrainians think they are able
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to hold the line for now. but in order to get out of these trenches, in order to get out of these bunkers and take the fight to the russians and push back the russian positions, they say they need more ammo and weapons and they need them quickly. >> extraordinary reporting. thank you. from a russian prison camp to the top of the sports world. that's the transition brittney griner is attempting to pull off. nbc news has now learned that greiner will resign with her old team. the phoenix mercury. after missing of course the entirety of last season. games will tip off in may. we don't yet know exactly when greiner will be ready to return to the court, but we look forward to seeing her play. and at this hour, rescue and relief workers at the turkish syrian border are overwhelmed after being struck by yet another massive earthquake yesterday. the 6.3 magnitude quake leaving at least eight dead and hundreds more injured, spreading panic,
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collapsing buildings and sending even more terrified residents out into the cold of winter. an estimated 6,000 aftershocks have been reported over the past two weeks in that region. we want to bring in an expert on the science of earthquakes. jonathan stewart, professor of civil and environmental engineering at ucla. it is hard for most people to wrap their heads around that number. you've been involved in coordinating the u.s. response including mobilizing teams that are on the ground in turkey gathering evidence. what are you learning? what can you tell us about these quakes? >> well, the aftershock pattern that we're seeing in turkey is within the normal range. you know, we're about two weeks out from the first 7.8 main shock and during this time frame, it's normal to get a series of large aftershocks. you know, the size of aftershocks can be up to just a bit below the original main
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shock. that's basically what we've seen with the 7.5 we had a few hours later and now we have this additional 6.3 just yesterday. the earthquake yesterday was actually near the southern terminus of the rupture. >> so how long could these aftershocks go on because it's cold, as we've mentioned. a lot of folks are being told don't go back into where you live because it's been damaged. it's not safe. or people are concerned that'ven if their building wasn't danielled this time, it might be again if there's another big aftershock. how long is the threat there? >> typically, the aftershock rate you know, declines gradually with time and as we get several weeks out, you know, it's usually quite a bit reduced, but it can go on for still multiple weeks or even months. but what we'll generally see is that the size and the frequency
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of the aftershocks will decrease with time. >> so those folks what you know that have gone over to help coordinate the u.s. response, do they include folks like yourself who are experts in earthquakes? are folks like you advising about whether or not it's safe to return? >> we do have a team there. it's a team that is comprised of structural engineers, geologists and they're working closely with turkish colleagues. they stay far away from the earthquake zone so they're safe as they meet at night and sleep. so i think their safety is fine, but they are finding remarkable effects of this earthquake in terms of surface fall rupture, massive amounts of ground failure like liquefaction, different areas. and also examples of structures that collapsed as we've seen, but other structures that have done just fine. it's important for us to be able
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to document both types of performance. >> jonathan stewart, you have a lot of work ahead of you as do those folks o the grnd. thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us. we've got new details in the death of a catholic bishop in los angeles. what we've learned about the suspect who is now under arrest. t first, alex murdaugh's only surviving son just took theand s the south carolina double murder trial prepares to wind down. you're watching chris jansing reports only on msnbc. s jansing reports only on msnbc. get a private 5g network. so you can do more than connect your business, you can make it even smarter. now ports can know where every piece of cargo is. and where it's going. (dock worker) right on time. (vo) robots can predict breakdowns and order their own replacement parts. (foreman) nice work. (vo) and retailers can get ahead of the fashion trend of the day with a new line tomorrow. with a verizon private 5g network, you can get more agility and security. giving you more control of your business. we call this enterprise intelligence. from the network america relies on.
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this was a huge moment today in the south carolina murder trial of alex murdaugh. his only surviving son, buster, took the stand for the defense and talked about the moment he saw his dad just hours after the murders of his mother and brother. >> when you got there, did you see your dad? >> yes, sir. >> what kind of condition was he in? what was his demeanor? >> destroyed. heartbreaking. i walked in the door and saw him. gave him a hug and just, just broken down.
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>> could he speak? >> not really. >> crying? >> yes, sir. >> catie beck is outside the courthouse in south carolina. we're also joined by msnbc legal analyst, charles coleman. so catie, i understand the defense says it plans to rest by friday, but this is dramatic stuff. tell us a little bit more about what we heard from alex murdaugh's son. >> reporter: well, yeah, i think as far as defense witnesses go, chris, this was sort of the top of the mountain. everyone was waiting to see what buster was going to say. frankly, i thought his testimony would have been a bit more emotional. i expected them to ask about the possibility that his father could have done this and the loving relationships that perhaps he had with his dad and maybe with paul. the defense didn't go there. i think that was because they were walking carefully to keep those legal doors closed to any other possible information that could come out. what they really got from buster on the stand was some
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confirmation, reasonable doubt they could poke into the prosecution's point about washing clothes. bringing up the fact it was june, hot. it was normal his dad would take a shower when he came off of the property before dinner. things about gun storage. leaving guns about the property. how they were loaded. sort of making things normalized that perhaps the defense or the prosecution held out its questionable. so that was really what mostly buster accomplished on the stand. he also talked about a video that was brought up and there was some verbiage in that video, alex murdaugh in an interview at one point might have said i did him so bad, referring to paul. buster correcting that saying he heard they did him so bad. >>. >> so bad, so bad. >> what did your dad say? >> he said they did them so bad.
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>> was that the first time you heard him say they did him so bad? >> no, sir. >> when was the first time? >> first time i heard him say that was the night i went down, the night of june 7th. >> reporter: again, the defense sort of normalizing the defense sort of normalizing things there saying this was a phrase he had said multiple times, that it shouldn't be held out by the prosecution as perhaps a confession or anything else. this is his son who says he can recognize his voice and he heard a different version of that statement. >> you know, charles, it's interesting. you've been a lot more courtrooms than i have and i've covered a few murder trials. facts are one thing. demeanor is another. there's been a lot of come men tating that buster seemed very stoic. there should -- among jurors
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that he should be more emotional. in the end, do you think they look at things that way or look at the facts? >> they absolutely do judge body language and any attorney who's heard a case will tell you when you're talking and preparing your witness to be on the stand, you want to discuss with them how they come across. like catie said and you just talked about, i didn't see when i watched buster's testimony, any sort of emotion that you would expect when someone is talking about the loss of their brother, their mother, and their father being on trial. it was very stoic. it was almost void of any real feeling or emotion and i don't think that for as much as buster's testimony may have given his father just an iota of something to stand on, i think his absence of emotion may have hurt him in a lot of ways. >> the defense also called a forensics engineer. he testified the shooter had to be what, someone much shorter than murdaugh, who's i think
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6'4"? >> reporter: yeah, that's the theory they're going with. that the trajectory of the bullet was going. that someone has tall as murdaugh couldn't have fired it. but we're going to hear a series of experts that do just this. bling out a counterpart to all the evidence the prosecution has put forth. poking holes in those theories. already, this expert on the stand for a few hours, but making clear distinctions in theory from what the prosecution put forth. that low angle shot was agreed upon by the prosecution, but not to the extent that we've heard this morning. >> enough to raise reasonable doubt potentially? >> i think so, chris. you have to understand the job of a prosecutor is very different than the job of a defense attorney. if you were to use it, reasonable doubt is like a cloak and it shows over anything in the trial so nothing can get through. for a defense attorney, all you have to do is poke a hole in that cloak so one ray of light
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shines through. now that's reasonable doubt. it's not the job as a prosecutor who has to eliminate reasonable doubt. not all doubt. so what they're going to do in a number of different cases is try to find where there's an opportunity to poke a hole and the more holes they can poke, even if they're small, that's what reasonable doubt looks like. it is possible he may not be convicted here, but he's got a world of legal problems aside from this case to consider. even beyond what made the outcome be here. >> catie, thank you. charles, don't go away. in los angeles, a community remains in shock and mourning after their beloved bishop, david o'connell, was shot and killed in his home on saturday. at a highly emotional press conference, officials, community leaders, all talked about what he meant to the community. this is los angeles archbishop gomez on his long time colleague and friend.
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>> his love for god. he served this city for more than 40 years. from ireland. every day, he worked to show compassion to the poor, to the homeless, to the immigrant. he was a good priest and a good bishop. and a man of peace. and we are very sad to lose him. >> we're also learning more about the suspect in custody. 65-year-old carlos medina. officials say he is the husband of the bishop's housekeeper, adding that a tipster told medina he was acting strange and making comments about the bishop owing him money. you heard some of that.
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evidence that police say led them to the suspect. but i want to play more of what the l.a. sheriff had to say. listen. >> detectives discovered surveillance footage that showed a vehicle that had pulled into the bishop's driveway, stayed for a short time and left the location. the vehicle was described as dark colored compact suv. detectives recovered two firearms and other evidence possibly linking medina to the crime. the firearms will need to be examined and tested by our crime lab to determine if either of those firearms were used in the murder. >> you and i have listened to a lot of these press conferences. it seemed like they really quickly wound things up. the housekeeper is cooperating. they've got surveillance video. they know the car. they've got someone suggesting that the suspect owed him money. >> we've got the suspect,
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potential murder weapons, potential motive and a deceased person. all the elements for a murder case. as they begin to tie together the forensic elements between each piece, the circumstantial notion becomes lower and lower and lower. if you can match the gun to the bullet or firearm used in the murder and connect that car to the suspect, again, that notion of reasonable doubt, that cloak, it becomes darker and darker and covers this trial even more. this potential case even more. >> no matter how back the labs are where they seemed to be backed up in every jurisdiction. but you get a high profile case like this, will they get it back in days, weeks? >> i've seen these things turn around in a day or two, but the more reasonable expectation is going to be weeks because of the high profile nature of the trial, of this case. i would expect looking between
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lay off workers. says these things are happening because the railroads are simply not investing in care safety and the rail lines themselves. >> as i noted, we invest over a billion dollars a year in our safety program. in the form of maintenance, equipment, and technology. there's more to be done as you can imagine. since this occurred, every single day, i've asked myself what could we have done better? what could we have done to prevent this? and you know, morgan, it's pretty clear that our safety culture and our investments in safety didn't prevent this accident. so we need to take a look at this and see what we can do differently and what we can do better. that's my commitment. >> for more on that epa order, let's bring in nbc news white house correspondent, monica alba. the epa isn't pulling punches.
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they say, quote, let me be clear, norfolk southern will pay for cleaning up the mess they created and for the trauma they've inflicted on this community. my understanding is that this is a legally binding order. do we know anything more about it and how the government plans to measure compliance success here. >> we have a rough idea and this is really a federal response that is moving into a new phase. so it's going from the emergency portion to what they call the remediation phase and this is something where the epa and the administrator has said they had already gotten the commitment of norfolk southern to do the clean up, but now that's right. it goes into this more intense portion where there's a legally binding order and where the epa is going to say we will approve a plan of how you intend to clean up the soil and water and essentially if we don't like what you're doing, if we don't think you're doing it the right way or if you don't do it enough to meet the needs of the residents right now, then we will have to do it.
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you will have to come in and reimburse the epa and yes, we understand through the environmental protection agency that they can compel them to really triple the cost of whatever that endeavor takes in the next coming weeks and months. this is really a long-term process. the way they're going to identify this is they're going to really look at whether norfolk southern also meets its commitment to now participate in public meetings. really being face-to-face with residents. something that in those initial days we didn't see take place. so that's something the epa would like to see happen now. again, moving this into a legally binding order, which is significant. it comes after there were a lot of questions about the federal response in those initial hours. the epa noting they were on the ground soon after the derailment, but then there were a lot of questns about why fema wasn'there and now there are thesearger political implications for the white house with some wondering if president
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biden will ultimately travel there even though his administration says there are many working, devoted to this full-time, trying to respond in a way that can reall mt the needs of these residents who say they want more assurances and that's why you see the administrator on the ground today. we have asked the white house if there are any plans for the president to do is same and so far, of course he's in poland right now. so it's unclear when he gets back if that's something that will be taking place. >> monica, thank you for that. nbc news has learned that some rights groups are threatening to sue the biden administration. at issue, a new immigration rule now being finalized that would block migrants from central america from trying to claim asylum at the border. critics of the new plan are calling it a trump era tactic. something that the homeland security secretary has denied. the new rule is expected to be announced in the coming weeks. that's according to four senior
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dhs officials. new today, a rare resignation from congress this early in a session. rhode island democrat, david cicilline, this is his seventh term, announced he will be leaving congress early at the end of may. he's going to head up the rhode island foundation, which he describes as one of the largest and oldest community foundations in the nation. the decision will mean a special election to find a replacement for that heavily democratic seat. and california congresswoman barbara lee has made her long anticipated senate bid official. she's joining capitol hill colleagues adam schiff and katie porter in a race experts say could cost hundreds of millions of dollars to succeed diane feinstein. you won't believe where a
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mardi gras is here. you don't have to take my word for it. the place seems to be pked as locals and visitors alike take over the streets of the city to celebrate fat tuesday. there we go. that's a float in the rex parade. along with more than a million visitors, the big easy is seeing the typical epic costumes, parades and yes, lots and lots of beads. and king cake. well, here's something that wouldn't be weird in new orleans, but i doubt visitors to this new york city park had spotting an alligator on their bingo cards. just a few miles from what i'm standing is brooklyn's prospect park and that's where a maintenance worker noticed a four foot long alligator looking out of place. nbc's stephanie gosk has more. >> reporter: legend has it,
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alligators roam the suers of new york city. turns out, they're swimming in brooklyn's prospect park, at least one was on sunday. >> park enforcement sergeant responded quickly to the scene and she was actually the one who snared it in the water. she thought it wasn't alive and it quickly opened its eyes. >> was she alarmed at all during this process? >> yeah, it was four feet, 11 inches long. a big animal. didn't quite know what it was going to go. how it would react. >> it was not in good condition. emaciated and moving slowly. likely because of the cold temperatures. >> will this poor little guy survive? >> i hope so. it's in the good hands of the wildlife conservation society. >> reporter: park officials are asking the public for information. it's illegal to own one in new york state. one of 20 states that has a comprehensive ban on dangerous animals as pets, but enforcing
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