good to be with you. we have breaking news from the associated press and "new york times." the special grand jury investigating donald trump's potential interference in 2020 has given an on the record interview to both news organization, telling the times the jury recommended multiple indictments. it's not a short list, she's quoted as saying. asked whether donald trump was one of them, she responded, you're not going to be shocked.

it's not rocket science. and adding you won't be too surprised. joining me now is nbc legal analyst, lisa ruben. not to guess at what she's talking about there, but it's not so veiled. >> it's not, katy. and she told the associated press this morning that she had been instructed as had the other grand jurors about what they could and could not say by the fulton county superior court judge. i wonder now and reading "the new york times" report, the judge believes they overstepped. she was careful with the associated press talking about sketches she made of various witnesses. who was funny, who was unhappy to be there. who might have invoked privilege, but telling the times the grand jury did invoke indictments and it wouldn't be rocket science who they were against. i wonder if she overstepped that line today.

>> she also tells the times they started in the grand jury with that call that donald trump made to secretary of state brad raffensperger where he asked raffensperger to find the votes he needed to win that state. 11,780 votes. here's what she told the times. we definitely started with the first phone call. the call to secretary of state raffensperger that was so publicized. i will tell you if the judge releases the recommendations, it's not going to be some giant plot twist. you probably have a fair idea of what may be on there. i'm trying very hard to say that delicately. that seems to only underscore what i asked you at the top, which is that it doesn't seem like it's so veiled. >> no, it doesn't. but also i think what she might be getting at is how far reaching this investigation was and what acts or conduct might be of issue and the grand jury's recommend days. we know when bonnie willis

started her investigation and asked for a special grand jury to be appointed, one of the things she was most interested in was that call. the investigation then expanded to include things like lindsey graham's call to raffensperger in mid november. and then expanded to include things like the fake electors scheme and georgia's involvement in that as well as accusations about the voting machines and whether or not they had been penetrated or involved in the plot. we know that the grand jury didn't buy those allegations, they say, and the now unredacted portions of the report, there was no widespread fraud that could have overturned the results of the election. i think she's saying the central points, that's where we focused our energies. >> they also said they believe some of the witnesses were lying to them. that was also in what was released by that judge. and it brings me to another thing she told the times. actually the associated press.

it was a little bit of color about how the lawyers in the room dealt with the witness' refusal to answer. she said when they refuse to answer almost every question, a show and tell. the lawyers would show video of the person appearing on television or testifying before the u.s. house committee that investigated the january 6th insurrection at the capitol. perily asking the witnesses to confirm ctain things. then the scratching of pens on paper could be heard as jurors tallied how many times the person invoked the fifth amendment. that's an interesting strategy to go at somebody who's refusing to answer. >> very interesting and telling. one of the ways you might be able to tell whether if someone is lying is obviously if you can contrast that with scenarios in which they told the truth. in order for a special grand jury to say we believe that people lied to us, it means they

were also confronted with other evidence, katy, that would allow them to deduce what the truth actually is. and that is as important as their finding that they believe that people lied to them is that the investigators and lawyers from the district attorney's office likely presented the with countervailing evidence to show where people told a very different version of the story. >> also, at least one person who resisted answering questions became more forthcoming and cooperative when prosecutors offered him immunity. it appears at least one person got immunity while in that room. she says it's a him. is there a risk with the forewoman coming out and speaking on the record like this? >> if this were an ordinary grand jury, i think there would be that risk, but remember this is a special grand jury and as a

special grand jury really deviates from some of the functions the grand jury would ordinarily serve in a criminal case. this grand jury does not have the power to indict. its power is solely to investigate then make recommend days to the district attorney. that doesn't mean that people who might find themselves the subject of indictments would complain bitterly about the fact that emily coors gave as much color as she did to the ap and "new york times." it's just to say as someone who didn't have the power to indict, she's a little bit removed from what is actually going to happen in willis' case and it remains to be seen whether that will be grounds for an actually legitimate complaint about this process. >> one of the questions i always have is how do you find people who can be impartial in these settings? how do you find jurors not aware of what is going on out there? she says she did not vote in 2020. didn't know the specifics of trump's widespread election fraud or his efforts to reverse the election. when prosecutors played the then

president's phone call with raffensperger, which we played so much, she says that was the first day she had ever heard it. the first time she had ever heard it was when it was played for the jurors on their first day to consider evidence. really remarkable stuff. not everybody is paying such close attention. lisa ruben, thank you so much for joining us and helping us really illuminating interview from the grand jury investigation in georgia. now we've got our other top story of the day and it has to do with ukraine and the question that is on our minds, which is what is reality because sometimes depending on where you are, it's not always so easy to figure out. sometimes reality is created for you. the false truth that is piped through your phone or tv. the forceful and angry words of your leader rallying you to his side. and that is what we saw today with putin trying to do in

moscow. telling the russian people that the war he started in ukraine is just a necessary not just to lib rat ukrainians, but to protect russians. protect their existence in the face of western aggression. he gave this speech in what could be considered his state of the union address. next door in poland, president biden tried to pierce that reality, telling russians to look beyond their borders. to consider an alternate reality, to see how much of the world sees the war in ukraine. >> 143 united nations condemned russia's illegal annexation. only four in the entire u.n. voted with russia. four. so tonight, i speak once more to

the people of russia. the united states and nations of europe do not seek to control or destroy russia. the west was not plotting to attack russia as putin said today. and millions of russian citizens only want to live in peace with their neighbors are not the enemy. the war is never a necessity. it's a tragedy. >> so what are the people of russia hearing tonight? keir simons is back with us from moscow. our nbc news chief international correspondent. did the people of russia even hear that speech from president biden? >> reporter: they may have some of them. certainly the kremlin says putin wasn't watching it, but will get a briefing on what president biden said. you kind of sketched that picture, kind of smoke and mirrors. we've been on the streets of moscow to talk to ordinary

russians about what putin said today. we played the part of his speech to them where he says that this is a war by the west on russia started by the west. that same sentiment that president biden was pushing against there. we couldn't get anyone to actually give us their opinion. just again and again, if you want to ask me about politics, i hate politics. i don't want to talk about politics. to the front line here in russia and most people or many people, certain people we spoke to tonight, not keen on raising their heads above. that question of war, the tone that president putin today used, when i was hear in russia a year ago, it was made illegal to use that term. and so we had a period of time where we had to be very careful and figure out what that meant. and but then today, you have putin talking about what's happening in ukraine is a war by the west and then on russian television now, i've been

watching today, commentators and anchors on russian television talking about the special military operation in ukraine and conflict there as a war. it's difficult to know when you're on firm ground in russia and that is kind of the nature of the world here as we are now approaching a year into this conflict in ukraine. >> russia, by the u.s. and western estimates, have sustained heavy losses in ukraine. a lot of casualties. around 200,000 what we heard from blinken the other day. do those numbers resonate there? >> reporter: the numbers aren't being reported. not in those terms anyway. there are reports that people are losing their lives. in fact, president putin today called for a moment of silence for those members of the russian military who have lost their lives in ukraine.

there was though no apology. no compromise. and you know, no sign frankly from president putin of when this will all end. you're right. the death toll is appalling. it's a terrible toll. on both sides, actually. and that is one of the challenges here i think for all of the leaders. the issue is that this, it doesn't look as if the russians believe or certainly the kremlin believes that it can't win this. it thinks it can. then on the other side in ukraine, there's a strong belief and you heard it from president biden today. that they will win this on behalf of democracy. and when two sides both think they're going to win, you don't come to an end of a conflict. that's why you're hearing many western leaders talk about this as being a potentially long conflict. another part of that, too, just to state the obvious, when a conflict lasts a long time, the danger that nato gets pulled in,

nuclear escalation gets to be more of a risk. this gets to be a dangerous time. >> thank you very much. again, putin did not address the number of soldiers killed or injured in ukraine. again, it's estimated that it could be as many as 200,000 soldiers and while russia does have the advantage of a much bigger population to pull from, ukraine has the advantage of being able to d in, literally. richard engel is in the trenches on the eastern front where word of president biden's visit to kyiv has renewed confidence that the west will continue to help. >> lieutenant bogdan is in charge of a front line position in eastern ukraine. his men are fighting in some of the harshest possible conditions, but the troops here show no signs of fatigue. ukrainians say they don't have that option. if they stop fighting, they lose the war and their country. bogdan was injured by a mortar,

recovered for two months and is now back. nearly all of his 150 soldiers have been injured or killed over the last year. and now there's a problem. a russian drone is overhead. soon, there's incoming. our position was shot out by russian forces, a soldier says. yes, yes, he says. russian troops are about 800 yards away. ukrainian troops fire a rocket propelled grenade to keep them back. the soldiers say it's like this every day. and is intensifying. why does this war matter to americans do you think? >> because it's a war for democracy. >> reporter: a fight ukrainians say they will take to the end. if the west could speed up sending what they want most. more weapons and ammunition. >> that's richard in the east. joining me now from kyiv is erin mcloughlin.

president biden was in kyiv yesterday. he's in poland today delivering that speech. how was it received over there in kyiv? >> hey, katy. unlike what keir was just describing over there in moscow, here in kyiv, ukrainians are not afraid to share their opinions very candidly and openly. ukrainians i've been talking to say they share president biden's optimism and conviction that ukraine will win this war. i was speaking to an adviser of president zelenskyy earlier today and he was sharing that optimism. he believes that with enough weapons, with enough ammunition, ukraine sees a path to victory and within the next six months, potentially. take a listen to what he had to say. >> necessary types and quantities of weapons, primarily

shells and missiles. because this is a very intense artillery war. i think in six months, we will be approaching the finalization of this war. >> reporter: and in the ukrainian viewpoint, the finalization of this war entails 1991 ukrainian borders which includes the retaking of crimea. he was very adamant about that. he was also optimistic about the possibility of more weapons including fighter jets being sent from the united states. he said that currently, the topic of fighter jets are on the negotiating table being actively discussed by d.c. and kyiv and he is confident that ultimately the united states will make the decision to send fighter jets to ukraine, which ukrainian leadership sees as necessary to win this war. >> erin, thank you very much. and joining me now is state

department spokesperson, ned price. ned, it is really good to have you. let's talk about where erin, what erin left off with. the f-16s and long range missiles. president zelenskyy is still asking for them. was there anything president biden saw yesterday in kyiv that would change his mind on providing that weaponry? >> these are always discussions we're having with our ukrainian partners and president biden did have a discussion with president zelenskyy yesterday, but they discussed the security assistance the united states has provided. every time we discuss this with our ukrainian partners, we want to hear what they're facing, where the battle is raging and where it will be in the coming days and weeks and if it goes on that long, we hope not, in the months to come. at the earlest stages, we provided them with what they needed to win the battle of kyiv. antiarmor, antiaircraft. it was the type of artillery.

that has evolved as the nature of this conflict has evolved. so these are iterative discussions. i think we've proven time and again that nothing is insurmountable and if it's something we're in a position to provide. >> so it's not off the table is what i'm hearing you say. what about what that adviser to president zelenskyy told erin, that he believes this war could end in six months? does the state department view it that way? >> we certainly hope this war could end much sooner than that. the fact is putin started this war almost exactly one year ago today. he could choose to end this war today. he could choose to end this war tomorrow, but this rayle boils down to a simple truth. that's the fact that if russia were to stop fighting today, the war would end. if ukraine were to stop fighting today, ukraine would end. tas why it's so important for

us, the international community as a collective, to continue to stand with ukraine, to continue to stand against this aggression. because katy, this is about ukraine in the first instance, yes, and that's important in its own right, but this is bigger than any one country. this is about russia's attempted assault on the same rules based order that has governed stability, security, and prosperity. not only in europe, but around the world. every time that rules based order comes under threat anywhere, it comes under challenge everywhere. and countries are watching very closely. what is happening in ukraine, but more precisely, what the rest of the world is doing to stand with ukraine and to stand against what russia is attempting to do. >> so the state department has and the administration has levelled a number of sanctions against russia and prominent russians. do you feel working quickly enough to strangle russia's ability to

fund this war? and if not, why not? >> well, theha been working and to your point, this has been iterative. i suspect within before too long, you'll see an additional round of sanctions because we are determined to continue to hold key russians accountable for this. those around president putin. those decision makers. those who have influence over him. but the fact of our sanctions is that they have been effective and their effect is compounding. that is to say with each passing day, week, their impact grows. it grows on russia's ability to project force. we systemically starved russia of the inputs it needs for its war machine. whether that's in ukraine or anywhere else. and we've seen russia as a result have to turn to let's say nontraditional partners. we see russia reaching out to iran. reaching out to north korea in part because the united states and our partners and allies around the world have prevented russia from importing what it is

they need for their ballistic missiles. the ships they need for their advanced weapon system. so that's going to continue. on the financial side, we've seen the russian economy take a hit and to the extent that the russian economy is still afloat, that's because the russian government, the kremlin, has been forced to take artificial measures to prop up its exchange rates, its markets. that is something that may work in the near term, but to limit russia's oil revenue, russia's gas revenue, to starve russia's economy, that is going to become tougher and tougher and those sanctions will have that compounding effect. >> the nontraditional routes that russia's going to help them fund the war, what about china? was the top diplomat from china at the kremlin yesterday? >> i've seen those reports. we're going to leave it to russia and china. we've been clear where we fall on this and where countries around the world fall on this. china wants to have it both

ways. china purports to have this veneer of neutrality. this patina of neutrality. but at every step of the way, whether it's economically, politically, diplomatically, whether it's through their propaganda, the prc has been anything but neutral and china has buttressed their ability to wage war in ukraine. we've been clear since the earliest days of this war at the highest level from president biden to president xi. my boss, secretary blinken, sat down with the top diplomat in china over the weekend to relay that message. if china decides to provide that lethal assistance, there will be severe costs. >> why do you believe that they might be deciding to do that? why have the secretary to go out and say publicly we don't want them to do that? do you have underlying evidence that suggests they're preparing to do so? >> we do.

we have very good intelligence pointing to this, katy. at every step of this conflict, you probably remember in the weeks proceeding this conflict, we've been pretty proactive and aggressive in using information that we have to try and stay two steps ahead of moscow. to try and stay two steps ahead of those countries who are involved in this or may be involved with this. you remember what we said you remember what blinken said a year ago about what we expected to see from russia in the days and weeks before, that played out to a tee. that's because we probably deterred russia. knocked it off its balance and they had to change course. we think by going on offense and putting this information out there, we can hopefully in the first instance, deter countries. whether it's russia or china, from taking actions they may contemplate, but if we're not able to do that, to make sure that the world is eyes wide

open. to make sure that the world is immune to the propaganda, misinformation, disinformation we may hear from russia or china about what it is they're doing or not doing as the case may be. >> thank you very much. got 100 more questions for you, but run out of time. thanks for joining us. still ahead, more than two weeks after a toxic train wreck, epa chief michael reegan was back in east palestine, ohio. what he did today. what he did to try and prove the water is safe. and she was killed in the terrorist attack in paris in 2015. now the supreme court is considering whether to hold google responsible for her death. and there by transform the internet as we know it. plus, what speaker mccarthy gave to tucker carlson of fox news. o tucker carlson of fox news er business unlimited. it's just right for my little business. unlimited premium data. unlimited hotspot data.

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and msnbc political contributor, eugene daniels. i want to get the political angle of this because republicans are now seizing on it and trying to use it as an example of the biden administration failing the american public. >> that's exactly right. we have heard over and over from national republicans and even the mayor of east palestine talking about and accusing the biden administration for doing the wrong thing here and not working fast enough. not concentrating on it more. specifically a lot of them talking about president biden's surprise trip to ukraine in some

way illustrating how the white house hasn't or has mishandled this in the right way. i will say these are the criticism that always come anytime anything happens. we're getting into silly season. 2024 presidential campaign. so a lot of that is going to happen but when you hear from the people on the ground, the actual citizens of the town, that tells you something else. the white house is clearly feeling this heat of all these criticisms. just four days ago, they sent out a fact sheet to us saying here are all of the things that we as an administration from done from the epa to the department of transportation, the cdc. >> what about regulation? secretary buttigieg brought it up to your colleague. he said this is a community who is going through enormous upheaval and a lot of folks who seem to find political

opportunity there are those who have sided with the rail industry again and again as they have fought safety regulations on railroads. if people are going to find religion about rail regulations, for the first time, i welcome that. are republicans going for more regulation of the rail industry? >> no one's calling for that nos explicitly. >> isn't that what prevents these things? you've got to have tighter safety and security around transporting materials like this? >> exactly. what they say and what buttigieg was talking about there to my colleague was donald trump, former president, heading there, but during the trump administration, lots of deregulation of things like this for transportation of these materials and so the department of transportation is going to kind of take up putting in and proposing some of these regulations back. things that include the trains

carrying flammable materials. the trains and also how old some of the cars are. anything that could have prevented or made some of what happened in east palestine a lot worse. >> eugene, thank you very much. and transportation secretary, pete buttigieg, is going to talk about those regulations and a lot about the derailment and more when he joins deadline white house at 4:00 p.m. coming up, what lawmakers on both sides of the aisle are saying about speaker mccarthy handing over a trove of january 6th evidence to tucker carlson. first, why a mother blames google for her daughter's death and what will happen to the internet itself, the internet itself, if she wins? the intern itself, if she wins?

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today in washington, the support heard arguments in a

case that could transform the internet as we know it. gonzalez v. google is a groubd breaking case challenging a law that has shielded tech companies for liability for what users post. the case is being brought by the family of an american student who died in the 2015 terrorist attack in paris. the family says youtube owned by google did not do enough to promote isis videos that promoted new members. i'll speak with her mother in a moment, but first, let's lay ut the law in this case. joining me now is yamiche. they're getting at section 230 which says that these internet companies like google and facebook et cetera are platforms and thereby not responsible for what users post. >> that's right. and what we saw today was really what could be the most

consequential case to come before the supreme court on the issue of internet governance. never before has it been a legal irk, but today we heard an oral argument that lasted more than two hours. a number of justices, conservative and liberal, sounding skeptical about the argument that google could be held liable for recommending videos that have terrorist content. listen to a bit of what the justices said today. >> i guess the question is how do you get yourself from a neutral algorithm to an aiding and abetting, an intent knowledge -- there has to be some intent to aid and abet. you have to have knowledge you're doing this. >> i don't understand how a neutral suggestion about something you've expressed

interest in is aiding and abetting. i'm trying to get you to explain to us how something that is standard on youtube for virtually anything you have an interest in suddenly amounts to aiding and abetting because you're in the isis category. >> the claim we're focusing on today is in fact they're affirmatively recommending things. you turn on your computer and the computer is at youtube send you stuff. you didn't ask them for. they just send you stuff. it's no different than if they were sending you e-mails. that's affirmative conduct. >> reporter: it sounds like this is going to be a battle for the gonzalez family, but of course this is a case that is not only focused on section 230, but also on heartbreak. this is family that lost their daughter in a terrorist attack in 2015. >> that's right. thank you very much. and let's go to that family. joining me now is beatrice gonzalez, the mother who is suing google over the death of her daughter and also with us is

her attorney. thank you for being with us. beatrice, i want to begin with you. why did you decide to take this case and did you think it would get this far? >> in the beginning when, in 2017 when the case was filed, i never thought that it was going to come this far to the superior court, but i'm glad that it go to the superior court and we are here hoping the best and seeking for justice for the families that have been, that we've blood pressure been losing our loved ones from this terrible attacks. >> it's been eight years since that attack and other couple of the paris caves.

i can only imagine your pain. you just heard what clarence thomas was saying, what sonia sotomayor was saying to people who are very divergent. what is your counter argument to them not seeing the leap from just pushing whatever to affirmative as they've called it, affirmative pushing. affirmative action, if you will. toward pushing this content on to users. >> what we do know, it is a complicated case and it's a complex situation. we feel that the court wants to do something. it just has -- i believe, and this is what we brought this case for and others, that the social media companies became an essential tool in the operations of the terror organizations that cannot do without. the terror organizations are

using the social media companies to recruit, to raise funds, to spread their ideology. they utilizing the services of the social media companies to carry out terror attacks. meaning that what the companies are doing are aiding and abetting terrorism. and the companies were doing it for a very long time because they were shield. they stay behind the section 230 that grants immunity. and we say no more. that was the purpose of the hearing today. this is the purpose of this litigation, to bring the social media companies to recognize that they have such a responsibility and they cannot let themselves to help the terror organizations with intent or without intent. what they are doing right now is

providing them with services and this must stop. >> so this rule, section 230, was developed in the late '90s before the internet became what it is today and there's been a lot of bipartisan frustration over it. but there's been no consensus on how to change it. internet companies like google and facebook et cetera will say that if you change this law, that the internet will no longer be able to function as it currently does. that they won't be able to put up user videos. that content will not disappear, but be extremely slowed down and be a giant burden on them. what's your argument against this being overburdensome? >> we have to take actions. we have to do anything they can in order to prevent terrorism on other platforms. we cannot pay with innocent life

for the companies who make more and more billions of dollars. this companies can have the algorithm, they have the tools to monitor any terror content on their platforms and take it down. and this case before the supreme court and other cases pending, would steer them to the right way to do so. we cannot let the blood spill on the streets of paris, brussels, jerusalem, when the companies are making billions of dollars and turning a blind eye to terrorism on their platform. >> beatriz, how are you doing? >> we're doing good. we have the words to be here. me and my family. and we just are estranged from

our daughter. i feel her energy and her presence is with me every day. >> as my colleague yamiche said, this is not just a legal argument that the support is hearing. they're also hearing about the heart ache of a family. that being you, beatriz. thank you very much for joining us, ladies. it is a fascinating case and we will be paying close attention. >> thank you very much for having us. >> thank you. what wisconsin voters are deciding today that could make this the most consequential election of the year. first up though, what lawmakers on both sides are saying about speaker mccarthy's decision to give fox news host tucker carlson exclusive access to capitol riot footage. o capitol riot footage subs. like #4 supreme meats. black forest ham and genoa salami. you can't stop that much meat.

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tucker carlson says kevin mccarthy gave him unfettered and exclusive access to about 44,000 hours of capitol hill surveillance footage from the day of the january 6th riot. lawmakers are reacting. marjorie taylor greene tweeted americans deserve to see the truth, not a one sided narrative and two tiered justice system. adam smith suggested the decision was less and

transparency and more about fuelling conspiracy theories and bennie thompson issued a lengthy statement and a warning about what could come. saying quote, it's hard to overstate the potential security risks if this material were to be used irresponsibly. joining me now is ali vitali. it's not like he just gave anybody this material. he gave it to tucker carlson who did that whole special that was misleading and the insurrection and misleading is putting it mildly. >> yeah. who has consistently down played what happened here even after we saw throughout the entire summer, fall, and part of the winter, the findings in granular detail of the january 6th select committee. so it makes sense that those members and former members are now speaking out about mccarthy's decision to give these tens of thousands of hours of footage to tucker carlson, but there's also a question of the security implications of this. the january 6th committee, for

example, and bennie thompson alludes to this, were very careful about the chain of custody. who was able to access this. they limited the number of people who had actual eyes that could be put on this footage and when they did actually show footage from the footage. when they did actually show footage from the capitol police during the january 6th hearings they gave the capitol police a heads up about it. it was done in concert so security concerns were assuaged and everyone was looped in. that's now what leader jeffries is referring to in a leader to his colleagues. he's furious about this as are multiple members of the democratic party. where he says that this is an egregious security breach on the part of mccarthy by giving over this footage and that it endangers the hardworking women and men for the capitol police. the head of that the chief

majors saying when the congressional leadership or congressional oversight committees ask for things like this, we have to give it to them. one source is telling my colleague in this instance they didn't give it directly to tucker carlson it was show, they were asked for it by congress and complied with that request. clearly then there has to be a middle person, which is speaker mccarthy's office to give them that footage. >> let's drill down on the security risks here. what exactly is it with capitol police? is it seeing individual people or showing emergency exit routes or for instance where vice president pence was hiding out during the riot, that sort of stuff? >> exactly. here's a pretty clear-cut example i was talking about with one of my sources earlier today. when you saw, for example, nancy pelosi leaving the house floor and then showing up in a secure room on the phone in those january 6th committee hearings,

there's a reason why people didn't show the exact path that she took through the capitol, and that's because those are paths that capitol police would like to keep private, not broadcast to the tire country on national television or during a hearing. so those are some of the considerations made just from a security around the capitol perspective. but then, yes, there are also peoples faces that could be shown. all of these are chief concerns for not just capitol police but also for people who have done this kind of investigating work before. again, the january 6th committee all had access to this kind of footage and they were very targeted in how they used it. >> quickly, kevin mccarthy concerned about any of that? >> not that we've heard. we've reached out to his office a few times and looking for more information on this. >> ally, thank you very much. and today voters in wisconsin are casting ballots in what might be the most consequential election in that state.

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hello, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york, 11:00 p.m. here in kyiv, ukraine. i'm ali velshi in for my friend nicolle wallace. president biden made a bid to bolster the coalition that came together a year ago in the wake of russia's full-scale invasion of ukraine, which has so far defied expectations, staying united after a year of brutal fighting with no end in sight. speaking in poland a former eastern bloc country that's no stranger to russian aggression, biden started off by saying that the war has so far defied two big expectations. one, that kyiv would fall within days, and two, that the western alliance would splinter as the war dragged on. watch. >> one year ago the world was bracing for the fall of kyiv. well,