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rocket attacks in 24 hours as the military steps up its assault in ukraine. our reporters are here to cover all of the latest developments and we start there. nbc's richard engel is in dnipro, ukraine, this latest barrage of missiles, give us the latest we know about what's happening on the ground there. >> reporter: so ukrainians are shrugging it off. they so far say that the russian offensive, which was launched about two weeks ago, is not shaping up to be as devastating as province, the head of ukrainian intelligence earlier today said the russian offensive appears to be of such low quality that some field commanders don't even know that it has begun, that there has been intense activity from the russian side around bakhmut where we have been reporting over the last couple of weeks, but that in other areas, the russians are running so low on

ammunition on artillery shells they are now in an ammunition conservation mode. so, yes, they are still able to launch rockets at undefended ukrainian cities, but where the fighting is on the front line where the russians are trying to advance, so far the ukrainians are not overwhelmingly surprised or overwhelmingly, i'm not sure if impressed is the right word, but they believe -- they were expecting more, i should say. >> and once again, their resilience is extraordinary. richard engel, thank you for that report. be sure to catch richard's reporting on the ground, speaking with ordinary civilians who have bravely joined resistance who have helped liberate the city from russian occupation. watch unassignment, ukraine's secret resistance, friday at 10:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. you can also catch it streaming on peacock. and as president biden heads back to washington, support for ukraine is holding in spite of a

vocal minority of republican critics. nbc's peter alexander is at the white house for us. peter, this trip has been largely lauded as a success for the president, but what's the perspective of folks there. are they worried about this vocal minority, and what are the other challenges he's facing as the white house looks at the strategy going forward? >> chris, i think the white house feels good that the president was able in effect to take the bully pulpit with him overseas traveling not just to poland but of course into kyiv there. a message sent around the world that this is about something bigger than just what we're witnessing on the ground. it's about this fight that the president has really focused on from the very start, the idea of autocracy, and democracy, saying it is democracy itself in many ways that's on the line here. but white house aids, they do recognize the unique challenges they're facing with 41% of americans according to our latest poll, americans are split in terms of whether there should

be the continuation of aid being sent to ukraine in the months ahead. the white house recognizes that the next time they need congress's support for more aid to ukraine, it is going to be tougher. there has been that loud, that vocal minority of far right republicans, marjorie taylor greene, matt gaetz among them who have been critical. kevin mccarthy himself has said there will not be blank checks going forward. mitch mcconnell, the senate minority leader has said what's happening in ukraine, the effort to defeat russia is the most important event in the world at this time, and just after president biden left ukraine. mike mccall, who is the head of the house foreign affairs committee, a republican joined by several other lawmakers there in ukraine, and they said, he said that the majority of republicans and democrats do support this effort. he did have criticism for the administration saying that the biden administration needs to do a better job laying out a long-term strategy that's focused not so much on

prolonging the war but on winning this war. nonetheless, there is a lot of support among republicans as well. the white house knows it's going to be challenging going forward. that's why the president wanted to use his capital, his bully pulpit to put attention on his effort. he'll be hosting the german chancellor olaf scholz at the white house where this will be topic number one before the world again. >> peter alexander at the white house, thank you. peter. now to the monstrous storm continuing to be on the move this hour leaving millions under winter weather advisories. niala charles is in minneapolis where people have been bracing for a record setting storm. you and i talked last hour, and i just noted that the minnesota department of transportation quoted this. this could be a doozy. i think it's an under used word, but that tells you everything you need to know. i think i'm seeing a little more

wind than just an hour ago when we talked before. tell me what it feels like there, and what we're expecting. >> reporter: a little more wind, because the break in the snow has lasted longer than expected, the estimated snow totals have gone from 2 feet to 1 foot instead. officials still stressing to the minnesota residents that they have to keep off the roads because this is what the roads are looking like here. they're icy, most of the roads still covered with snow. we have seen from the department of transportation, multiple spinouts on the highways because people continue to drive. officials, again, telling people, stressing the urgency of this. if this doesn't end up as bad, a foot of snow is still a lot of snow, and officials here had that task of convincing the people who live here to take this seriously.

although they may consider themselves used to this, they don't know this storm, and if they find themselves stranded in negative windchill temperatures, that could be potentially deadly. chris. >> niala charles, get in from the cold, thank you so much for that. i want to go now and maybe niala shouldn't watch this to nbc's sam brock. oh, my gosh. south in miami beach, florida, to say it's a different story does not begin to describe it. but you're looking at some record high temperatures for february, the split screen, i can't even talk about it. sam, what's the forecast? >> reporter: it's a portrait in extremes. and whatever i tell you in the next couple of minutes, you are not allowed to be mad at me because this is not my fault. i just happen to live in miami beach. you look over my shoulder, and see all of the folks on the sand. this is what you would say is a wednesday in miami beach. it's about 85 degrees right now, a slight breeze coming off of

turquoise water here. i will say, one thing that's a little bit different than normal is the water temperature right now is about 77 degrees. chris, this is like stepping into bath water right now. that's all well and good. however, there's also a situation where northern parts of florida, and really huge sections of the south, chris, we are seeing elevated temperatures that may actually match or break records. one example of that is orlando, which is projected to hit 90 degrees today. the last time that happened in february, 1962, and this is not just florida, texas, louisiana, there's temperatures in the 80s during mardi gras. it stretches across the ohio valley, and mid atlantic. washington, d.c., d.c. projects for 80 degrees today, there have been three examples in modern recorded history where they have reached 80 degrees in february, two of them were in the 1930s and the 1940s. we are living in rare times right now, and as you look at this gorgeous beach, chris, and you see people laying out and just enjoying it.

yes, maybe this is a great experience for them, but just know summers in florida are just absolutely intolerable. so there is a silver lining to everything and i'm sorry for niala and the folks in the midwest are experiencing. it's warmer than normal in the south, and it projects that way for at least the rest of the week. >> nice try, nobody likes you. we're all jealous. thank you, sam brock. oh, my gosh, what a beautiful shot. we appreciate your reporting today. later this hour as we track the potentially historic winter storm, our meteorologist bill karins will join us with the full forecast, the path and what you need to know besides get on a plane and go to miami beach. to charge or not to charge, inside the decision facing the fulton county d.a. in the 2020 election probe. plus, any moment now, a man who pled guilty to storming the capital and later threatening a congresswoman is set to be sentenced. the consequences he could face.

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no comment, that's the word we just got from the fulton county district attorney's office about new interviews about the forewoman involved in election interference into donald trump and his allies. the special grand jury recommended indictments for more than a dozen people and those people include some recognizable names. i'm joined now by harry litman, he's a professor of constitutional law at ucla, good to have you on. >> good to be here, chris. >> i want to play more of what emily kohrs said to blayne

alexander. beyond the big revelations that speak to the legal case, she had some interesting general impressions, take a listen. >> senator lindsey graham, what was his demeanor like? >> fantastic. he was personable, forthcoming, i really liked him. i really liked talking to him. >> what about rudy giuliani? >> he seems like an honest guy, he's a very interesting guy. >> reporter: what about mark meadows, what was his demeanor when he came in? mr. meadows didn't share much. >> didn't share much. interesting, right? so look, we mentioned this the last hour. it's been 29 days since fani willis said the indictments were imminent. does this put anymore pressure on her, does it have any impact on the case at all? >> i think it does. she said i meant legally

imminent. i'm a lawyer. i went to law school. there's scrambling. you heard the no comment, i'm sure behind the scenes, those weren't the words. i'm sure exasperated that emily kohrs went on and said these things. still, she is not breaking the law. she's not following the judge's orders. she's not breaking the law, but the headlines, i think, are what she revealed. she's not much of a poker player and let us know what's coming at least in the special report. >> was there anything in the numbers that surprised you? i mean, maybe more than a dozen indictments. i suppose we could have guessed that there would be some recognizable faces, there are so many recognizable faces, but i wonder just in general what you make of that? >> so i had surmised, based on not much, we were talking about something like that because remember, we have on the one hand, all the trump stuff, including the witnesses she just talked about, and they're the big headline items. meadows, giuliani, but there's

also the separate georgia state phony elector, you know, conspiracy, and something like 17 members of that were told they were told they were targets, so it didn't surprise me there would be that number. as always, giving away more than i think she thought, when she said recognizable names, that indicated to me that maybe half of them are the big folks in washington, the people in the trump circle, but since there are those two discreet cases and since the second one involves a lot of local actors, the overall number didn't surprise me. >> did it help the defense at all, this kind of information becoming public? is there something when you say there's scrambling inside the d.a.'s office, is there something they can do to protect their case? >> short answer, no, it helps the defense some, and you're hearing a lot of, you know, criticism of her. i don't think it's that big a deal, and as i said, i don't think she broke the law, but definitely this is going to be a

very hard jury to choose, finding someone who says they are impartial and 12 and even 14 people. this is going to make it harder. people will ask did you hear what she had to say. if in any way what she hints at departs from what eventually happens, that's going to be fertile ground for testing a prospective juror. >> even i liked this person, he was funny. >> yeah, like what does that have to do with anything, right? and of course you're mark meadows' lawyer, they didn't like me. all irrelevant. i think it could give rise to a little bit more trouble picking a jury, but that was always going to be a really really crazy prolonged process. so i think it's a marginal addition of trouble for the d.a. >> this is just one of many different probes that are looking into potentially donald trump so not a big shock that his legal bills are piling up, but "the new york times" is reporting he spent about $10 million from his pac, his

political action committee on his own legal fees, his personal legal fees. that was just last year. he's a declared candidate now. does that raise any legal questions? >> definitely, and remember this pac, by the way, this is what he said after. i want you all to contribute to help me reverse the election. and he shook loose all of those new donations, usually in small amounts. a candidate, if he gets that amount of money from a pac or any individual, you or me, it's probably a campaign contribution. there are limits on campaign contributions. $3,300 in this case, be a pac or an individual. so that's going to lead to trouble, and of course he notoriously doesn't like to pay his bills himself. sometimes he doesn't pay them even if he owes them. that's going to raise an issue now that he's a declared candidate. from what you said and you mentioned the other probes, his legal bills are going north and

fast. >> harry, i love having you in the studio. whenever you're in new york, please come in. >> thank you so much. as we speak a texas man who tweeted assassinate aoc is being sentenced for threatening the new york representative and for participating in the january 6th capitol riot. nbc's ryan nobles is on capitol hill. what can you tell us about this rioter and what are we expecting today? >> reporter: well, this individual, garrett miller, actually pled guilty to a number of different counts in december. this after reaching an agreement with prosecutors here. he was originally facing as many as 12 different counts. he ended up pleading guilty to three felony counts of civil disorder, and demeanor accounts in his role in the january 6th attack. when the fbi came to knock on his door to ask him about his activity on january 6th, he was actually wearing a shirt that said he was there on january 6th. a demonstration of how proud he was to be a part of the capitol

insurrection on that day. one of the things we're hoping to learn here as this sentencing hearing plays itself out is just how much longer miller could potentially serve in jail. he has a significant amount of time already served as he was waiting the outcome of these deliberations, and the sentencing guidelines for the crimes that he's been accused of and that he's pled guilty to are around two years, and he has already served close to two years as he awaited for these legal issues to hammer themselves out. so his attorneys have asked for time served and for him to be released. the deliberations are ongoing as we said, we'll have to wait and see, chris, just how long or how much longer he ends up serving in jail as a result of pleading guilty to these crimes. chris. and we're live at the supreme court, after the break, where the justices are hearing another major case involving big tech, what it could mean for you. and will the justices conclude whether or not they should even be making these decisions?

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roadway. that sound you hear is senate democrats breathing a sigh of relief after jon tester announced today that he will in fact run for reelection in 2024. he had told nbc news earlier this month he was undecided. this decision is huge for democrats. montana is solidly red, and it's critical to holding the senate majority for dems in 2024. for a second day in a row, the supreme court is faced with a case that's key to the future of the internet. yesterday it was you tube at the center of it. today it's twitter. and a similar question of whether the social media app can be sued. this time, accused of aiding and abetting a terrorist attack through the spread of militant islamic ideology. nbc news senior legal correspondent laura jarrett is outside the supreme court. also with me, senior editor at "axios," sam baker. laura, give us the laymen's version of what this case is about and what the implications of the court's ruling could be?

>> the justices just wrapped up two and a half hours of arguments and they seem largely unpersuaded that twitter should be held liable for aiding and abetting an active terrorist. the act stretches back to 2017 when a man was killed in a nightclub in turkey by a man inspired by isis. the family sued twitter saying that essentially twitter facilitated the growth of isis, and they should have done more to clean up the site, and something twitter of course disputes, but the justices seemed largely confused about how to try to find a limiting principle here when twitter accounts is a business used for legitimate purposes by and large. just because someone happens to misuse is it, is that enough to hold them liable. there's no clear link between the acts because the person who actually committed the crime, there's no evidence that he used

twitter or planned the attack on twitter, so they really peppered both sides with a number of questions, but at the end of the day, the justices seemed unpersuaded, chris. >> so sam, you wrote this piece for "axios" titled "big tech's future" is up to a supreme court that doesn't understand it. and we got confirmation of your headline from justice elena kagan who said these are not the nine best experts on the internet. >> it's factoring in more than a lot of people in the tech vi thought it would. the court historically is not all that great at sort of anticipating technological advances, and to some extent, that's not really its job, right. like it tries to sort of solve problems by finding one principle that it could point to forever and ever and that's not really how technology works.

that's something a lot of tech companies were concerned about going into this case. everybody that goes before the supreme court could lose but that they would lose in such a way that five, ten, 15 years from now, we could be dealing with a new problem or new question that can't be anticipated right now, and everybody's hands would be tied by a supreme court ruling from 2023, just because the court is not that skilled with that, and we saw some of the justices, justice kagan most of all, and others saying is this up to us or congress? >> i guess that's the question, isn't it, laura, and i'm curious what you heard both yesterday and today. was that sort of it, like this really isn't in our wheel house here? just in terms of we don't get it, we don't understand it, maybe it should be regulated but we don't regulate. >> reporter: if there are changes to the shield law that's been on the books since the

'90s, congress is the one to take that up with, not for nine justices to decide, but i have to say, i was surprised at how well versed these justices are with social media, and how it works, and in fact, seem more well versed than some of the lawyers in this case, and perhaps their clerks have been doing a good job prepping them but they seem to understand algorithms, they seem to understand how the technology operates in practice, and we'll see how that plays out in the ultimate decisions we see in june, chris. >> sam, i thought it was interesting, you talked to a stanford law professor who told you and i'm quoting, the court might think it's doing one thing, and it's actually doing something very different. tell us about that. >> yeah, so in yesterday's case in particular, the you tube case, you know, the question here is, all right, so the law says you can't sue a social media platform for the content of what people post on it. but can you sue them if they

design an algorithm that feeds you content that you find objectionable, and the issue here, and what that professor was referring to was that's just sort of drawing a line, where does liability start, where does liability stop, and this is technology that even the people who, you know, write these algorithms for a living can't really tell you with a lot of certainty what they're going to look like in the future, and so if you draw two bright of a line right now, it's just sort of impossible to anticipate what's going to fall on one side, what's going to fall on another side, lower courts would have to be working that out for years if not decades, and there could just be any number of unintended consequences there. >> so much more to come, sam baker, laura jarrett, thank you so much. to wisconsin where an election denying ally of former president trump is one step closer to joining the wisconsin supreme court. after advancing in tuesday's primary, former state supreme court justice daniel kelly will

face off against liberal candidate in april. that general election will determine the political control of the course. nbc news correspondent shaquille brewster is in chicago with the latest. i mean, just saying sort of the politics of the court is something that decades ago people would have said that's not okay. that this is a liberal justice. this is a conservative justice. but this is going to be one heck of a fight, isn't it? >> yeah, and it's really clear how much times have changed. the fact that the democratic party in wisconsin and republican party in wisconsin, both quickly and immediately endorsed both the liberal and conservative candidates, just gives you a sense of how high the stakes are in this race here. you know, last night we learned the names of the candidates, but it's been clear, the battle lines have been set for some time. this is a court that has been conservatively held since 2008, conservatives have had a

majority in this court for decades now. democrats see this as an opportunity to flip a court that has provided hurdle after hurdle for them that has struck down covid restrictions in the beginning of the pandemic, that made drop boxes illegal, that chose republicans advantaged legislative maps. those are the issues that will likely come before the court again in the future, and when you listen to these candidates, they cannot be more different. i want you to listen to what you heard from the liberal candidate last night during her election victory party and a little bit of what we heard from the conservative candidate in my interview with him before the election. >> i'll be running against someone who doesn't think women get to make their own reproductive rights. i will guarantee you, i will guarantee you, that my opponent if elected will uphold the 1849 near total abortion ban.

>> i made sure to tell everybody the same thing about what i would do on the court, and it's the same thing i would do on every single issue, putting aside my personal values and politics and deciding according to the law. >> expect to hear a lot of talk about abortion in this race. wisconsin is a state operating under an 1800 abortion ban that has effectively outlawed and closed some of the abortion clinics in the state. that is something expected to come back before the court. daniel kelly who you heard there, the conservative candidate, while he says that he is going to approach this impartially, his campaign sent out a press release a couple of days ago, touting support from quote pro life groups in the state. he's also someone who says he is not inclined to rehear cases on redistricting because he doesn't believe that's a legal matter. it's more of a political matter. so no matter where you fall on these issues, it's going to be a major fight, and you can expect

a record setting amount of money being spent on this race. >> and i have a feeling shaq brewster is going to be spending time in wisconsin in the coming weeks. thanks, shaq, i appreciate it. it's been decades since the largest resettlement in history, now a bill is aimed at stopping deportations back to southeast asia. but first, alec murdaugh's trial happening in south carolina. we've got the latest from the courtroom next. we've got the latest from the courtroom next wayfair has deals so big that you might get a big head. because with savings so real... you can get your dream sofa for half the price. wayfair. it's always a big deal. ♪ wayfair, you've got just what i need ♪ (woman 1) i just switched to verizon business unlimited. it's just right for my little business. unlimited premium data. unlimited hotspot data. (woman 2) you know it's from the most reliable 5g network in america? (vo) when it comes to your business, not all bars are created equal. so switch to verizon business unlimited today.

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as well. in the meantime, we have breaking news coming to us out of the alec murdaugh double murder trial. i want to go straight to catie beck in walterboro, south carolina. i was just having a conversation with members of my team and saying it is extremely rare in a murder case for a defendant to take the stand but alec murdaugh may do it? >> reporter: that's what we're hearing that it is their plan to call alec murdaugh to the stand, as you say, legal experts say less than 5% of the time do defense attorneys call the defendant to the stand. it opens a whole range of issues, opens the door to lots of questions for the prosecution. in this case, there is a mountain of evidence that has been presented over four weeks against alec murdaugh, so there is a lot to cover. if they do put him on the stand. the one thing that i would say is there's a critical piece of evidence that the prosecution has presented, a video of that

kennel that night at 8:49, very close to the time of death when alec murdaugh has said repeatedly he wasn't at the kennel with his voice in the background of the video. it's been confirmed by everybody who knew him and was close to him. the only person who can answer for the video is alec murdaugh and it is a damming piece of evidence if you believe he's in background. it places him at the scene very close to the time of the murders. the best guess we can think of as to why they would take that risk, why they would be vulnerable is to try and answer that question for the jury because so far they have not answered that, and as i said, perhaps the only person that can is alex murdaugh himself. >> can you stay with us. i want to bring back former federal prosecutor, harry litman. conventional wisdom, what i was told is you only put the defendant on the stand if you think you absolutely need them, that your case is in trouble, is that an exaggeration? >> not at all. and that's notwithstanding, the

jury is very eager to hear from the defendant but typically in a murder trial there's so much to be cross examined and i'm surprised here because he tells multiple different stories. that's exactly the kind of fodder cross-examination that can leave a defendant's credibility in tatters. if they don't believe him, he's toast. but i guess they have decided, you know, it's a risk that we just have to take, given how the evidence to date has come in, and it's gone strong. >> i'm going to be honest. i've been following this case mostly through your reporting and reporting of our folks on the ground. stop me if i'm not getting this right. a key piece of evidence was video at the kennel that night in the background it suggests he was there, when he says he wasn't. is that right? so they need him to come and say that wasn't me? >> no, i don't think that's the play.

i think he rewrites the time line to explain that perhaps he went to the kennels at a different point in time. he had forgotten that he was there. something like that. i don't necessarily think it's possible for him to try and argue that isn't his voice. maybe i'm wrong on that, but every person that has worked with him, i mean, short of buster murdaugh, which we were surprised they didn't ask on the stand yesterday has said definitively without question that is 100% his voice. it was a video that paul murdaugh, his son was taking in the kennel of a dog he was housing for his friend, and you can clearly hear maggie's voice off to the side and a third distinct person, alec murdaugh has a very distinct voice that several people have identified in the background. the time stamp was 8:49. the time of these murders, the time of death was between 8:50 and 9:10. it was all right there in that period of time. it places him there very close to when the murders occurred, when he said multiples times in

interviews that he never went down to the kennels after dinner that night. so the time line is sort of thrown up in the air by that video, and i think, you know, they have not provided an answer to it yet. the jury has not heard an answer. to be clear, this is a plan to call him. a potential. i don't necessarily think it's 100% ironclad. can they watch today and reassess tomorrow and think this is too much of a risk, absolutely. but is it their plan at this point? are they preparing in that direction? i think the answer is yes. >> i'm going to ask you about the decision and what goes into it in a minute, i'm going to ask you about the time line. they have car gps, so the technology, and also as she said, the time stamp, seems to me it would make it very difficult for him to dispute that? >> i mean, it seems like he's walking into an absolute, you know, complete razor blades of trouble. i've also followed it through kate's reporting, and you know,

i can't imagine he hopes to actually say that wasn't his voice or whatever. and, again, the big point here is that the multiple interviews she referred to, he says different things. each of those is admissible, well, mr. murdaugh, you said you would tell the truth then, yes, and you said this. now you're saying that. how do you square them, that's devastating evidence in front of a jury. i don't know what it's about. i want to pick up on the one thing she said, it's also common in these trials to sort of flirt a little with the notion that he's going to take the stand and then not. among other things, it's a huge diversion of resources for the prosecution, so if it hasn't been, until he raises his right hand, i don't think you can say it's for certain. >> it's always a risk obviously, but what goes into a decision like that? >> one, what can they impeach him with? often defendants have strong criminal records which you don't hear about unless they take the

stand, and then you do. two, prior inconsistent statements, that's the strongest thing in front of a jury. you were there, they said this, there's not just one, there's several. they don't have to vary in huge material ways. if you see somebody bobbing and weaving and saying different things that's going to be very strong in front of a jury. what will the jury hear? a lot of that you don't hear unless they take the stand. because it goes to quote unquote credibility. so the decision normally comes down to what will cross-examination look like, and can we just try to argue there's some reasonable doubt there, because jurors do always want to hear from the defendant. based on that metric, which is the standard metric, i'm perplexed. >> i mean, i'm out there persony and demeanor. we had a conversation yesterday about his son, and you can always, if you're in the courtroom, sort of read the jury a little bit, right?

there's an expectation that somebody who lost a sibling and a mother might be very emotional. he wasn't very emotional. he was pretty stoic. i don't know what alex murdaugh's personality is, but they have to put that into their equation. how will the jury respond to him? is he sympathetic, is he believable? >> they're going to decide is he genuine, and 12 people sitting there, they really do develop, all of us do, but especially a kind of sense of whether somebody is being straight up, if they're sincere in their sense of loss, et cetera. if you suggest, if he's stoic, if they put him on, they're going to have to pose those questions to him. the jury is going to have to see his sincere, you know, emotional desolation. hard thing to fake. sometimes hard to fake even if it's true. >> we pulled you one at the last second on this for the breaking news. thank you, harry litman, catie

beck, thank you so much. there's a new bill in congress that aims to protect southeast asian refugees in the u.s. from being deported back to their home countries. at issue, the refugees that have finished serving prison sentences and who advocates say are being unfairly punished twice. nbc news investigative correspondent, vicky nguyen has their story. >> reporter: a rally in oakland, california, to pardon pun yu a former refugee who fled the genocide in cambodia with his family when he was just a year old. >> we need him hear to help us heal the streets. >> he watches from i.c.e. custody where he faces imminent deportation to cambodia, a country he doesn't remember. >> i'm feeling overwhelming love and support. >> reporter: when he was 21, yu killed a man in a drive-by shooting. he was sentenced to 35 years in prison. while serving his time, yu received news that would change him forever. >> i got news from home that my

sister was murdered. i started thinking about, man, this is probably the kind of pain i caused the victim's family. and just thinking about that pain really was the first time i think a seed of empathy was planted within me. >> in san quentin, yu earned his associate's degree and mentored many others. >> what are you doing, man. value yourself. value your life. >> reporter: last year, a parole board deemed him no longer a threat to society. he was released after serving 26 years in prison. a joyous moment that proved fleeting. >> i went from really high to really low thinking freedom is right there. i can taste it, i can smell it, then no. >> reporter: because he committed a serious crime and was not an american citizen. yu was marked for deportation immediately upon his release. he's far from alone. according to immigrant groups, an estimated 15,000 southeast

asian refugees face deportation despite 80% of them completing their prison sentences. >> you took someone's life, and you went to prison, and these are the consequences, deportation. what would you say to somebody who has that viewpoint? >> i'm definitely going to honor their views. one thing i know that i can do is change other lives as well for that person to be given a chance to heal other lives, to make up for the lives that was lost, you know, and i'm asking for that chance. >> congresswoman judy chu is working to make that happen. she's the lead awe authority of the southeast asian deportation relief act which would place limitations on the department of homeland security's authority to deport refugees from cambodia, vietnam, and laos. >> i think it's a cruel form of double punishment for these men and women who have deep roots in their communities and who have done their time, the more that we can get the american public to know what's going on, the

better. >> reporter: but even if the law passes, it will be too late for yu. days after the oakland rally, he was deported. >> what was it like when you touched down in cambodia? >> definitely traumatizing. i felt lonely. >> he is a free man but living a life without the friends and family who know him best. >> i didn't get a chance to say good-bye to my parents. i didn't get a chance to hug my friends. so that kind of haunts me a little bit. >> that was vicky nguyen, we thank her for that report. we've got a live look right now at freezing northern iowa. 16 degrees, but the windchill, minus 2. along with heavy snow and winds. manslaughter of people are in the -- millions of people are in the path of that winter storm, and we have the details next. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. only onc

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