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you burned me. >> with people in east palestine, ohio, angry and afraid after the toxic train derailment, donald trump offers them trump brand water and cultural grievance. pete buttigieg called on the former president to reverse the safety regulations put in place by his administration. secretary buttigieg will join me in a moment. also, new evidence the right knew it was all a lie. as arizona's former attorney general buried a record refuting election fraud claims. and garrison hayes is here. you know him from his tiblth series, forgotten black history. tonight, he is bringing us some kick ass black history. we begin "the reidout" tonight with east palestine, ohio, where we heard directly from federal officials today about what caused the toxic train derailment there three weeks ago. the chair of the national
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transportation safety board did not hold back. >> but i can tell you this much. this was 100% preventable. we call things accidents. there is no accident. >> the ntsb's report pointed to an overheating wheel bearing as a reason for the norfolk southern railway derailment, noting that the crew received an alert and tried to stop the train before it jumped off the tracks. the report was released as pete buttigieg was on the ground in east palestine today, getting a first-hand look at the damage. as residents from the community continue to demand answers. at a town hall last night, lifelong residents unloaded on mike dewine and the ceo of norfolk southern. >> i just want to feel safe in my town again. and i don't feel safe right now. >> until the cleanup is done, you'll stay with us within the one mile? >> yes. yes, i have been there three
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times. >> for a few hours. will you stay overnight for a period of time? >> yeah. >> the people of east palestine are just being treated like dummies. we're not dummies. we're smart people. i'm angry. i'm angry about this. i lived in east palestine for 65 years now. that's my home. >> that palpable anger is justifiable. and it followed a bizarre moment yesterday when former president donald trump visited east palestine along with the man whose election he supported, ohio republican senator jd vance. trump posted about the help he was bringing to the community and it was about as weird as you might expect. >> we're bringing thousands of bottles of water, trump water, actually, most of it. some of it we had to go to a much lesser quality water. you want to get those trump bottles, i think, more than anybody else. >> trump followed that bit of theater with a pit stop turned
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campaign photo op at a local mcdonald's, of course, where he handed out maga hats, bragged about his in depth knowledge of the menu, and denied his administration had anything to do with regulatory changes that contributed to the disaster. and many residents in a county that voted overwhelmingly for trump in the last two elections were elated. but it was him. it was donald trump and his administration who gave the rail industry and norfolk southern exactly what they wanted, fewer and looser rules around rail safety. trump conveniently forgot to tell his most loyal supporters how norfolk southern lobbied heavily for laxer safety rules and how receptive the trump administration was to their arguments on rolling back the rules. there's also the litany of obama era regulations to advance safety that trump's administration rescinded and that the biden administration has or is trying to reinstate. look, donald trump has clearly made a cynical calculation that the grift of giving residents of a poisoned town decade-old trump
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water and signing some hats would be enough for people who have endured three weeks of fear and illness and inability to drink the water coming out of their own taps or take a shower without worrying that it will make them sick, that that would be enough to make them vote for him again. and to ignore his role in their suffering. and you know what, maybe that cynical hope will be borne out by reality. maybe people in east palestine, ohio, would vote for him again. i mean, our politics are certainly that polarized, right? still today, secretary buttigieg was asked what the former president could do to actually help. >> one thing he could do is express support for reversing the deregulation that happened on his watch. i heard him say he had nothing to do with it, even though it was in his administration. so if he had nothing to do with it and they did it in his administration against his will, maybe he could come out and say that he supports us moving in a
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different direction. >> transportation secretary pete buttigieg joins me now. you know, the sort of theatrics of donald trump being in palestine were odd, but this is a community that voted overwhelmingly for him. the county that palestine is in voted 71/29 for donald trump. i want you to reflect on the irony. in 2016, it was 68/26. this is a trump county. what do you make of the fact he went there despite the fact the regulations he rolled back were partly responsible for this tragedy? >> it was definitely an ironic thing to do. you take down regulations, you water down regulations, you weaken the power of the administration to deal with freight railroad companies, and then you show up wanting to be a great friend of the people who have been impacted by a rail disaster. you know, this is somebody who as far as i know never went to a
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derailment site when one of those happens on his watch. and there were thousands. even ones with fatalities. never even sent his transportation secretary to go. now that it's campaign season, i guess things are different. we were there to work. we were there to get things done. and i'm really glad i had the opportunity to be there. i have to tell you, the people i spent time with in east palestine, we didn't talk politics. i'm sure most of them are on the other side politically, but that didn't come up. what came up was how concerned they are for their community. spent time with the mayor, spent time with folks in local government who were trying to do everything from make sure people have access to good information about health to making sure people have access to good information about water. keeping that water works and waste water operation going. and you know, you could sense a level of frustration with the political circus that has descended on their town, after they have already been through so much. so much fear, so much disruption, and none of it their
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fault. none of it because of anything that they did wrong. other than just the consequence of living where they live, and they deserve to be safe. and they deserve to know they're going to be taken care of. by the way, part of what is going to make sure they're taken care of is the work of the epa. the epa administrator has been there twice. the epa is the agency that's been able to make sure that norfolk southern is paying for the remediation. the epa came under a lot of attack, as you know, under the last administration. but it's another agency alongside our department of transportation and all of the other agencies that are on the ground. i met dozens of folks on the federal side. so many folks from the state, so many local officials doing everything in their power to help this community. and what i saw was public servants from all levels of government, including levels of government that have been vilified doing everything they can to make the residents better off and residents who deserve to
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make sure even when the circus goes that they're going to be taken care of. >> let me ask you. you mentioned political silly season. it's a campaign season. one of the people who have taken a lot of the blame and taken a lot of the bricks is you. senator marco rubio said you should resign. there's been a lot of criticism over the time it took to arrive, for you to personally go, for the president to go. and they're even using the president's trip to ukraine as a wedge. what do you have to say to senator rubio, who is blaming you and saying you should resign as a result of what happened in east palestine? >> well, the strange thing about hearing that from senator rubio is that the last time i had gotten a communication from him about railroad regulation was when he had signed a letter asking us to weaken our inspection practices. so but let me say this, i mean, if anybody regardless of what they have done in the past, is serious about the future, republican, democrat,
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independent, if anybody has found religion on the subject of making sure that we actually regulate these corporations and hold them accountable, then i am calling them in and inviting them to the table. we did a lot of work from day one, doing things like restoring and enhancing safety audits which were pulled back under the last administration. resuming work on a rule that will require you to have at least two people which is common sense on these long trains. at least two. that's a rule that was frozen under the last administration. we resumed. but we could do so much more. especially if congress were there to help. and i'll give you one example of something i would love for senator rubio and any other member of congress who cares about this issue to sign on to, which is to raise the legal cap on the fines that my department is allowed to assess when there is a violation. right now, even if there's a hazardous material violation that results in somebody getting killed, the most that we can assess against a company is about a quarter of a million dollars which you can imagine for a multi-billion dollar
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corporation like norfolk southern or the other freight railroads, that's a drop in the bucket for them. that's an easy natural common sense thing congress could do tomorrow, is raise that cap and give us more tools to work with to hold the railroads aeblthable. >> i will note that governor mike dewine did say that president biden called him immediately and he initially did not think they needed any additional assistance, which is what he literally said. i don't have time to play that, because i want to play another sound bite for you. there's a thing where this is happening in a very red, red community. but this is not uncommon. these kinds of manmade disasters have happened. we have seen it in flint, in jackson. and normally the thing that these communities have in common is they're not rich. that they're communities that are not wealthy so the train lines go through their communities. let me just play you what tucker carlson had to say, because the reason trump went there is he has this you're forgotten meme that he wants to keep going with. here's tucker carlson adding to that and throwing in the aspect
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of race. >> east palestine is overwhelmingly white and it's politically conservative, more than 70% of voters in the surrounding counties supported donald trump in the last election. that shouldn't be relevant, but as you're about to hear, it very much is. imagine if this had happened in, well, the favorite cities of philadelphia and detroit. this affected the rich or the favored poor, it would be the lead of every news channel in the world. but it happened to the poor town of east palestine, ohio, whose people are forgotten and in the view of the people who lead this country, forgettable. >> by the way, i will note it has been the lead on this show multiple times including tonight, which is why you're here in our a-block, and detroit is like right near flint. anyway, i'm going to allow you to respond because this is a meme that keeps people in places like palestine voting for people like donald trump who then deregulate the train lines that poison them. your thoughts. >> yeah, i don't know where
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tucker carlson was when they were trying to dismantle the epa, which is now maybe the main thing standing between the people of east palestine and ecological disaster. look, they're always ready to take it back to race. but the reality is that we're going to serve everybody. that's how this administration works. we're not out there to bring resentment. we're out there to bring results. and what our focus was today and our focus, by the way, from the first hours, when we had our department of transportation personnel on the ground, from those very first hours in this response all the way through today and well into the future, for as long as it takes, focus is to make sure that people get the information they need, the support that they need, and the accountability that is needed for corporations like norfolk southern to clean up this mess. there's a long pattern of voices like that in the idealogical
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media trying to pit people against each other only to turn around and support policies that are especially hard on working class and low income people of every race. because one thing, you know how a broken clock is right at least twice a day. one thing he's exactly right about is that environmental disasters tend to happen more frequently and more painfully to lower income communities. we call that environmental justice, and yet if i use those words, i'm sure he'll be the first one to say that we're too woke to be paying attention to the bread and butter of our jobs. part of the bread and butter of our job is to keep people safe from being harmed or killed, which is what regulation, sometimes an unpopular word, is all about. it's what enforcement is all about, what accountability is all about. we restored some of that regulation and enforcement and accountability that was stripped away when we got here. i know that's going on in the
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epa side, definitely going on in the department of transportation side, and we'll continue that as long as we have this honor of serving, because what we came here to do is protect every american. i mean every american. who comes into contact with our transportation system. >> i want to thank you. transportation secretary pete buttigieg, thank you. i should have mentioned tucker carlson, the person we now know lies to his audience when he's behind the scenes. thank you. up next on "the reidout," well, it was all a lie. we now know the former attorney general of arizona suppressed a report showing his office found no evidence of election fraud. well, surprise, surprise. that story and more when "the reidout" continues after this.
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last week, we learned fox news would rather lie to their viewers than tell them the truth and risk people turning the channel. that truth was that -- that truth was that the 2020 election according to trump's own administration was one of the most secure elections in american history. and that donald trump lost to joe biden by more than 7 million votes. yesterday, thanks to the newly elected democratic attorney general of arizona, chris mays, we learned that her predecessor, mark brnovich, knew months ago that there was virtually zero
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fraud. but he withheld that evidence from the public. nearly a year after the election, brnovich launched an investigation that lasted 10,000 hours with more than 400 claims investigated. separate investigations tasked with looking into those claims, produced a report in march of last year and stated in black and white that virtually all claims of error and malfeasance were unfounded. a month later, brnovich issued an interim report that ignored those findings and claimed serious vulnerabilities. he left out edits from his own investigators refuting his assertions. his decision to lie to the public was likely motivated by the fact that he was running in a maga filled primary for arizona's senate seat. his decision helped make arizona ground zero of election denialism to this day. this is just a taste of what republican voters in arizona told frank luntz during a focus group just last week. >> why are we using the same
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system that they used in vel zana? >> many of these systems are democrat owned. how can we trust the checks and balances of these votes? it doesn't matter where the vote comes from, whether it's a dominion voting machine or a mail-in ballot, how can we trust that if george soros owns over 40% of these machines. >> we just don't trust, and because of that trust, we don't believe the truth that's being told to us. >> nothing they just said is true, but this is the more dangerous, by the way, consequence of lying to people. take a look. >> you see, lies don't exist in a vacuum. they fuel suspicion that leads to death, destruction, and the most serious threat to american
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democracy in modern history. very few republican politicians or fox pundits are held accountable for those lies. those who assaulted the capitol are being held accountable, roughly 1,000 of thome who were convinced to believe the big lie, have been prosecuted including enrico tario, the leader of the proud boys. he's charged with having directed, mobilized, and led a crowd of 200 supporters onto the capitol grounds. on wednesday, jeremy burr teeno, the only member of that group to plead guilty to seditious conspiracy, testified that the members of the proud boys believed they had to take the reins and lead an all-out revolution to keep trump in office. in discussing how they would accomplish that, he explained that they needed to get pelosi because she was the talking head of the opposition and they needed to remove her from power. he added, quote, we were always talking about being the tip of the spear, and that was just
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another example of us leading the way and leading by example. i'm joined now by stuart stevens, senior adviser to the lincoln project and chief strategist for mitt romney's 2012 campaign. we have been down this road before, but the people in the republican base were receiving the same lie from so many different sources. it was their elected officials like this official in arizona, who was their top law enforcement guy. he was supposed to tell them the truth but he was lying to help himself win a primary, which he lost. and now let's look at what they were hearing likely from their favorite news channel, fox news. >> as we await today's electoral college decision, an intel source telling me president trump did in fact win the election. >> interesting stories about dead people voting. wow, amazing. what free and fair elections we all have confidence in. >> i saw that interview with sidney powell and mara on sunday.
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>> we need to find out exactly what happened in this election. >> and not giving any excuses to the people who stormed the capitol, but every source of information available to them was telling the same lie. it's not shocking at all that they believed that they needed to do something, i guess, to keep trump in office forever. >> you know, i don't think we talk enough about the blame that is within what passes for the establishment of the republican party. every united states senator who is republican knew within 48 hours, without a doubt, that donald trump had lost that election. all they had to do is put out a statement congratulating the president elected to the country they live in and serving as a united states senator in congress. on a level of sacrifice for democracy compared to say the greatest generation which is what they inherited, it's a pretty low bar, but they went along with it. i really think that was a check, our system, parties should be a
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circuit breaker to stop craziness. the greatest failure of the republican party in this whole trump era has been not to be that circuit breaker. and the reason they're not doing it is because they want power. they care more about power than they care about the country. and that continues. >> i think about arizona, which really became ground zero. they hired these strange organizations to come and audit, these wild -- i mean, they were being told, if you lived in arizona, you were a republican, you were hearing from the government, the republican government is saying yeah, there's something wrong with this election. then you turn on fox news and they're saying this election was stolen. trump is saying it was stolen. everyone that you in your bubble trust is saying this was a fraud of historic proportions. now, you tell some democrats that, let's be clear, they're not storming the capitol, but republicans are different. this is what a lot of them did. do you think there should be
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more subpoenas of people like this supposed government official in arizona in these trials? >> yeah, of course. absolutely. i mean, the guy was using government money to do an investigation. and then he covered up the investigation results because he didn't like it and thought it might help him in a primary. i would make a good case for that being misuse of government funds, for sure. look, i think what has been difficult to grasp is how deep this goes in the republican party. it's like january 6th, i mean, it was always clear to a lot of us who worked in the party, but it's now been sort of expluicated that this was something that involved every layer of the republican party, from the white house to the rnc to the attorney generals association, the people who were supposed to be the upholders of the law, to big donors, to senators and their staff. where are we today? i mean, majority of the republican party does not believe that joe biden is a
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legally elected president. and consequences of that are profound. >> jack smith has now subpoenaed jared and ivanka. jared got a great deal of money out of the saudis out of it. what do you make that the fact that the new speaker of the house is to then hand over 41,000 hours of raw footage to the same guy who is being sued for lying outright to his viewers, tucker carlson, of all our security footage from the capitol on january 6th? >> i suppose kevin mccarthy can call himself an american by virtue of birth and he carries an american passport, but he hasn't acted like an american in a long time. this is just anti-american activity. it is against democracy. and you know, it's fascinating. this is occurring on the year of the russian invasion of ukraine. and the message to putin and the soviet union delivers this in
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1920s was there was not american democracy. our system was flawed. they said in soviet and russian propaganda exactly what they're saying in those focus groups. we know russia supported trump. and now we have the consequences of this. it is extraordinary that someone who worked in that party, the one thing we believed in was that we were anti-soviet union, anti-russia. now, they have adopted their talking points. and i think this is just beginning. i think it's going to be incredibly difficult. >> including the udof breaking up america. that's also something that the kremlin wants. i will just tell the audience that kevin mccarthy's excuse for doing what he did, he said because i promised. i promised i would give it to him. extraordinary. >> steward stevens, thank you. >> still ahead, the fulton county grand jury foreperson is coming under fire for talking
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its final report to fulton county district attorney fani willis. and we know this because the jury foreperson emily went on a media tour to describe or telegraph her experience on the grand jury, adding some color on what is to come. >> so we're talking about more than a dozen people? >> i would say that, yes. >> are these recognizable names, names that people would know? >> there are certainly names that you would recognize. >> we definitely heard a lot about former president trump and we definitely discussed him a lot in the room. and i will say that when this list comes out, you wouldn't -- there are no major plot twists waiting for you. >> okay, but then things got weird. >> my coolest moment was shaking rudy giuliani's hand. that was really cool for me. i made a point of stopping them and being like, wait, before we
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go back to this, can i shake your hand? it's an honor to meet the guy. >> senator lindsey graham, what was his demeanor like? >> fantastic. he was personable. i really liked him. i kind of wanted to subpoena the former president because i got to swear everybody in, so i thought it would be really cool to get 60 seconds with president trump with me looking at him and being like, do you solemnly swear. i just thought that would be an awesome moment. >> yeah, the appearances have elicited quite the response. what if anything does it mean for the case? joining me now to explain what we just saw hopefully is charles coleman jr., civil rights attorney, former prosecutor, msnbc legal analyst, and host of the charles coleman podcast. you have a lot to do, but you have one more thing to do, please explain to me whether that is going to hurt the case? because i think lisa reuben, our legal analyst, she might be irritated by any grand juror talking publicly now.
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still, emily's pursuit of her 15 minutes is not likely to preclude anyone from serving their term. that's her take. what is yours? >> i agree with lisa. she's extremely bright and usually on point and this is no exception. as a former prosecutor, though, it makes me very, very nervous. it makes me nervous because while the rules do allow for her to do this, and sort of go on this clout chasing tour, 15 minutes of fame, donald trump has been the proverbial gingerbread man. haven't been able to wrap our minds around the fact that we need to indict him and hold him accountable. this has been for my perspective one of the strongest cases against him thus far. to see it jeopardized in any way, shape, or form because of a foreperson who wanted to get in front of a camera and giddily talk about shaking rudy giuliani's hand really makes me nervous. >> so just to put it in some perspective, she's done interviewed with "the new york times," the atlanta journal constitution, cnn, and blayne
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alexander from msnbc. i sat on a grand jury. i didn't think you were allowed to talk at all. how is it okay to do a media tour? >> every state, every jurisdiction has different rules, and in this case, this was permitted. and the judge gave them specific instructions in terms of what it was they could talk about and what it was they could say. i suspect that some of what we may see visually in terms of her appearing to be coy or giddy is actually her thinking about the rules that the judge laid out and what it is she can say and not say without running afoul of what they were instructed with. at the same time, you know, because we have been so close in so many different respects and like i said, this is probably one of the most direct other than the mar-a-lago document case, route to a potential indictment and prosecution, i just don't like the idea of it being risked. >> how could a defense attorney potentially use this if they wanted to use it? ? i would immediately go for the influence it could potentially create over either, a, the investigation to say this may
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have somehow unduly pressured fani willis to moving forward in a particular way, or b, i would make it a big issue around potential jury selection to say this level of media exposure could have potentially tainted a jury pool. i would be moving for just a number of different things to challenge the validity and integrity of the investigation based off of what we see being leaked here. i don't know how much of a winning argument that is, but if i was to do anything with it, that's where i would go. >> so this aside, it feels to me like if i were one of the fake jurors, i would be worried about my future. if i was mark meadows, i would be worried about my future and making sure my lawyer was paid up. is there anyone else you feel like is in more jeopardy based on what you heard her say? >> not in particular. at the end of the day, she was still very elusive in her comments which is why it's kind of sort of more bizarre than anything else. i think that because of his standing, and you and i have talked about this before.
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i'm really concerned if i'm mark meadows. i'm concerned about different levels. if i'm rudy giuliani, i have been concerned. >> at least you know you have a new friend. >> my hand shake is worth something. and then finally, senator lindsey graham can never be too far away from being concerned because of who he is, where he sits, and the implications that it could have if he were more entangled in this situation than he already is. >> the whole thing is so strange, but i think that is -- we share the same concern. donald trump has been a sort of teflon don. it's not clear why it is that he seems to escape accountability. he's been fined, he has faced fines including bragg in new york has gotten him fined. but it does seem like criminal accountability is in your view, is it because he's wealthy? because that is the way wealthy people roll, or because he was president? >> it's a combination. i think you're talking about privilege. you're talking about race. >> a rich white guy. >> there you go. i think you're talking about a number of different things.
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i also think he has also had the protection of people he's been associated with. there have been a lot of people, some of whom have chosen to go to jail rather than to speak up and talk about what they know where he is concerned. so that sort of combination has coalesced in this shield of protection which it appears as though either jack smith, fani willis, or both will be able to potentially penetrate but not if people keep talking and telling what was going on in secret hearings. >> thank you very much. up next, a video journalist for mother jones presents his take on black history month. showcasing some of the more bad ass figures who have helped advance the causes of freedom and equality. garrison hayes joins me next. stay with us.
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the promise of equal pay for new black recruits. school for black children, and jobs for black women. that's that king behavior. >> it is the final week of black history month, and while it is still legal in the state of florida, tonight we want to do something a little different and not just in the fashion sense. boop. instead of talking about the painful history that encompasses so much of the history of africans in america, we wanted to highlight some of the kick ass black history like the story we just played. and to do that, we have garrison hayes, tiktok's unofficial history professor who uses his platform to talk about black history and tell the bad ass stories that you probably have not heard before. garrison hayes joins me now. he's now creator in residence at mother jones and one of my favorite follows on tiktok. thank you for being here. >> hey, it's great to be here. thanks so much for having me. >> of course. tell us more of this story. can love this story of abraham
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galloway. tell us more about him. >> abraham galloway is born in north carolina, and he escapes slavery, goes to canada, and the thing about abraham galloway that i love so much is he's really committed to the liberation of his people. as soon as he hears that haitian revolutionaries are interested in attacking the south in order to free black people there, he hops on the first boat he can to get to haiti. he ends up back in the united states. and not long after that, the united states, the union army recruits him because he knows how to navigate the south. they need his expertise, and as i said in the video, he really leverages that moment to advocate for black children, for black women, for other black men. he's this incredibly liberating figure who goes after the civil war to continue to push for change in america.
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i mean, he is a signer, he helps to radify the 14th and 15th amendments. this guy is absolutely incredible and it's always amazing to me, i told this story online, and how many people are saying i have never heard of this person before is always incredible to me because he's so amazing. >> so funny, i consider myself -- first, i'm a supernerd and consider myself to be pretty knowledgeable about history. i have never heard of him until i saw it on your tiktok. talk about some of your other favorite characters in black history. charles hamilton houston is one of the other ones you have done a piece on. talk about him a little bit. >> yeah, i really love charles hamilton houston. he's really the architect of the legal side of the civil rights movement. he recognized that white liberals did not have the guts to pass pro-black legislation. and so he devised a plan to really attack it from the legal side, to take cases to every level of the judiciary, to get
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things like overturning jim crow, so he finds the perfect case in missouri where a black man had applied to be admitted to missouri's law school, and they, of course, because of the color of his skin, don't let him in. so they sue and say, well, if missouri doesn't have an equal, a separate but equal law school for black people, then violating the constitution, and of course, they won. and that was kind of the starting point of what would eventually lead to the end of segregation, thinking about brown v. board of education. we would not have gotten there without mr. hamilton houston's efforts and his brilliant mind. >> and what you do for history is that you are filling in the blanks of some of the ways that we got to brown v. board, things happen out of nowhere, but they happened because of a lot of activism, things that bill toward things like brown.
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you also do stories, i love the stories of, like, the military heroes, the pilots. the things that we don't hear about. i feel like we are kind of trained to believe that black history began with slavery and ended with dr. king saying that one sentence. but there is so much more to it. there is another great story that you do, and history on gibson, we have to get a woman there. talk a little bit about althia gibson. >> althia gibson is one of my favorite specifically about black resilience and amazing community. she's born in the segregated south on a cotton farm to parents who are sharecroppers. so she is coming of the direct legacy and evolution of slavery. her family, just like millions of other african americans said we don't want to be here anymore so they picked up and moved to new york during what is called the great migration. when they get their, althea is still struggling. she is skipping school, not
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doing well in her classes and that's where the community part comes into the fold. collect and offering, they pull their money and they pay for her to get tennis lessons -- a professional athlete. she wins roland garros in france, she wins wimbledon in front of the queen. she is this incredible figure, truly we would not have the serena williams, the venus williams, the cocoa -- we would not have those people without althea gibson first. >> what kind of reaction you get from tiktok? is it more like me, like, wait a minute, i didn't know that story. or do you get some of the pushback we are seeing against learning black history in schools? what is the general reaction you get to your posts? >> it's really interesting. i get a mixed bag. the thing that encourages me the most is that i -- just got a comment literally 20 minutes ago on one of my videos
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where someone said, hey, i never knew about this before. i -- put them up on the wall in my classroom. there are so many people finding out this history. it is great to see the impact that it's having in the real world. it's not just click send scrolls and hearts and comments, but we are having a real life impact. of course, i get the haters as well. that is naturally going to be a part of it. but the positive at ways the negative, of course. >> i'm waiting for you, yourself, to be banned in the state of florida. i'm sure rhonda santos is not enjoying anything you are doing. i bet he does not follow you on tiktok, or he follows you for the wrong reasons, to hate on. you but garrison hayes, we love you. this is the caucus black history we need it today. up next, marking one year since vladimir putin launched his brutal invasion of ukraine. and all that death, destruction, and displacement that it has caused. we'll be right back.
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today, to the, our russia entirely unprovoked invaded the sovereign nation of ukraine. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> this is an nbc news special report. here is tom yarmulkes. >> good evening, we are coming on the air with breaking news. ukrainian officials telling nbc news their country is under attack. our team spread throughout ukraine hearing large blasts and explosions all across the country. our team also reporting russian
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troops landing in parts of ukraine as the sun is rising there. ukraine is 44 million citizens are waking up to their country now being invaded. russian forces are spread along nearly every border. russian president vladimir putin going on television earlier this morning, announcing the attack, and telling ukrainian forces to lay down their arms. >> horrifying drama for the country followed, with a cities annihilated and atrocious war crimes in directly targeting civilians. including when russia bombed a mariupol art school, sheltering civilians -- that was sheltering civilians. the ap concluding that 600 people were killed there. a report released by the united nations this week concludes that over the past year, more than 8000 civilians were killed and more than 13,000 injured. 18 million are in dire need of humanitarian assistance, 14 million displaced from their homes. some forcibly sent to russia. they stress that these numbers are just a tip of the iceberg.
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despite all, this ukrainians resolve has remained strong. at the beginning of the war, experts were convinced kyiv would fall in days, or even hours. but it did not. instead of fleeing to safety, like others might have done, president volodymyr zelenskyy decided to stay and lead during this country's time of need. russian troops, some not even knowing why they were there and why they were told to fight, became increasingly demoralized. despite his inability to win so far, putin is not backing down, delivering a provocative speech earlier this week, and continuing to indiscriminately shell the country. but the ukrainian people continue to fight. that's tonight's read out, don't go anywhere. there is much more ahead on the anniversary of putin's invasion. joe scarborough hurts a special, war in ukraine: one year later, and that starts right now. aine: one year later and that starts right now. ♪ ♪ ♪ welcome to wa
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