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good afternoon. i am yasmin vossoughian. the world is watching, as vladimir putin drags ukraine into a second year of war. right now, americans around the country are gathering in washington, to show their solidarity for ukraine, using the lincoln memorial as a backdrop to send their message. the aggression must stop. we are live on the ground for that. we are also going to take you to kyiv, where ukrainians are working hour by hour, day by day, to remain standing and to overcome. i want to talk with one ukrainian who not only has the ear of the people, but the ear of president volodymyr zelenskyy. and fearing the worst in ohio, thousands pack an auditorium, asking questions about their safety, after that train derailment. while president biden talks about action. his administration is taking, and answers the question on whether he's going to visit the

community. plus, winter weather slamming the land of the endless summer. southern california, you won't believe where snow is falling this weekend. and then in our next hour, protecting women's health and the reproductive rights. i will speak with the leader of the organization, women's march, on the concerns that she has, as the country waits a federal judges -- decision on whether abortion will, in fact, be allowed. we want to start, though, with that one year anniversary of ukraine, where in the one year since russia's invasion, more than 7000 civilians have, in fact, been killed. 8 million have been driven from their homes, and an estimated 13,000 ukrainian soldiers have lost their lives. along with 100,000 russians. yet, the spirit of the ukrainian people has continued. bolstered by international support. the u.s. now authorizing another two billion dollars in aid and weapons to ukraine. erin maclachlan reports from

the capital city of kyiv. aaron? >> last night, president biden telling abc news that she's ruling out sending f-16 fighter jets to ukraine for now. something that the ukrainian leadership has been asking for. take a listen to what the president had to say. >> we are sending him what our seasoned military thinks he needs now. he needs tanks, he needs artillery, he needs air defense, including another high marks. there are things he needs now that we are sending him to put him in a position to be able to make gains this spring and this summer going into the fall. >> you don't think he needs of 16 is now? >> he does not need of 16 is now. there is no basis upon which there is a rational, according to our military now, to provide f-16s. >> but you're not ruling it out? >> i am ruling it out, for now. >> now, the other items that the president mentioned there, the artillery, the himars, the air defense. those are all things ukraine badly needs on the front lines, speaking to an adviser to the

ukrainian military. he was telling me essentially what's happening right now is both sides are running out of ammunition. and i was speaking to a senior adviser to president zelenskyy earlier this week, and he said that if they can get that ammunition supplies, the weapons from the west in a timely fashion so the front lines, then he expects potentially there could be a turning point in this war in the next six months. it's an optimistic view. a potential wildcard, according to an adviser to the ukrainian military's potential chinese involvement. the united states has been warning that china is considering sending lethal aid to russia, and if that happens in, the words of this advisor, it could be a, quote, game-changer, which is perhaps why president zelenskyy says he would like to meet with the leader of china. >> erin maclachlan for us, we thank you. so, right now, we're also

following this rally being held on the steps of the lincoln memorial in washington, showing support for ukraine from thousands of miles away. that's where we find nbc news -- sitting live for us. there was snow in their little earlier, i believe some rain coming down now. marissa, admits did all, and a pretty incredible showing there, to say the least. a lot of folks showing up in support, of course, the war in ukraine and the ukrainians in general. talk us through what you've been hearing. >> yeah, i'm going to lift the umbrella and step out so you can see for yourself, despite the weather that we've been having this morning. you can see a big difference, even in the hours since we last saw you guys hear on tv, how many others have gathered here to show their support for ukraine. and really, they're coming from all across the country. we've spoken to people from new hampshire, a lot of people from the northeast. we've spoken to people from all kinds of states that have been taking buses to get the. here they knew that this was something they wanted to do. some of them said they've been fungus for months in advance, and in terms of where they come from, some of them are just

people that are americans that just want to support ukrainians, and then we spoke to several people who are from ukraine. in fact, we spoke to one woman, among a group, who herself fled from ukraine when the war broke out. take a listen for yourself on what brings her out today. >> our hearts in west ukraine and we want to support, we want to show -- loves ukraine and we want our country to be free. still have full, like, really big hope that with all the support with america, with other countries, that our country can be free and be happy, and build a new world. >> so, in terms of the plans for today, the rally just now beginning. you just heard the speaker call attention to the crowd, so we will be hearing from several people at the podium. and then they're supposed to,

but there's at least a large group here that is expected to march to the russian embassy. and to ask for russia to be held accountable, and to ask for the united states to do more action, to hold russia accountable. big change from what we saw this time last week, of course, with that anti-war rally, asking for the u.s. to not be involved in russia's war against ukraine. but in terms of what we are seeing and hearing here, i mean, it's hard not to get emotional when you hear some of the stories of what people have seen. especially people that are from ukraine. they have friends, families, loved ones who are still there, who are checking in with every single day, just to make sure that they're still alive. so, there is so many different reasons in terms of why people are here. but the biggest overarching theme here, i think, is to not only make sure that the ukrainians don't feel forgotten. not just ask united states to do more to support ukraine, but really justice shows support for ukrainians with here in the united states and overseas,

still in ukraine. >> all right, powerful, we thank you. so, showing support for ukrainians in other ways as well, and that is, of course, military aid, along with that two billion dollar aid package for ukraine. the u.s. also imposing these new sanctions and tariff increases on russia as well. i want to bring in nbc's allie raffa who's standing by for us in wilmington, delaware, with more on that. the president is facing some pretty public calls, ali, to say the least, including from the ukrainian president himself, to provide those advanced american fighter jets. we know, as i played a little bit earlier, the united states has not been ready to do that. they don't necessarily think ukraine needs it, as of yet. what more is the president saying about this continuing aid? >> yeah, yasmin. to say the least, it's a great way to put it. we know that president biden has repeatedly been asked for those fighter jets from president zelenskyy, but noticeably absent from that newly unveiled two billion dollar military aid package yesterday where those f-16

fighter jets. remember, president biden committed to sending those abrams tanks last month. but when asked whether he would send those f-16 fighter jets, he notably said, no. and so, as ukraine enters this new phase of this war with this expected new russian offensive in the spring, he was, again, asked about this in this new interview with abc news that you played at the top there. david muir asked him whether he had changed his mind on that decision. and the president said, as of right now, he's ruling that out. and earlier this week, white house officials had explained how the decisions were made, as far as what military equipment would be sent from the u.s. to ukraine. this white house officials saying that essentially, the top military leaders from both countries sit down and talk about what they need and when they needed. this officials saying that up until this point, the u.s. has given everything that ukraine needed, when it needed it. but the wildcard in the situation right now is china and iran, and whether they will

raise the stakes of this war, by sending lethal aid to russia in its war against ukraine. that's something that john kirby confirmed, as far as iran, yesterday, saying that iran is already sending legal aid in exchange for military aid from russia to iran, as far as china, president biden telling abc that interview, he hasn't seen any evidence of that as of right now. he said, he doesn't anticipate it. but he added that if china does provide that lethal aid to russia, that china would be subject to the same sanctions that the u.s. has imposed on other countries that have been aiding russia in its war effort. notably, more sanctions unveiled yesterday to mark the one year anniversary of the war in ukraine by the u.s., yasmin. >> yeah and i got to say, both china and iran will have a vested interest in the objectives that vladimir putin wants to carry out. so, we will have to wait and see how that all plays out and

certainly, we will be talking more about this throughout the next two hours. allie raffa for us, thank you, ali, good to talk to. coming up later on this hour, as i just mentioned, i will be joined by former adviser to ukrainian president zelenskyy, igor novikov, to get his reaction to the u.s. aid packages. and talk about what he sees with the year ahead after 12 months of bloodshed. now, over the east palestine, ohio, where residents are facing health concerns three weeks after the catastrophic derailment of a train carrying toxic chemicals. nbc was reporting that several people have already been diagnosed with ailments related to chemical exposure, including bronchitis. we want to bring in nbc's jesse kirk, who's in east palestine. this thing, jessie, has been ongoing. you've been there really since the start of it and a lot of folks understandably are worried. not just about the effects they're feeling today and tomorrow, but the effects that could come in weeks and months from now. i know that there was a town hall last night. what did folks say? yes, and yasmin i actually was

on here right when this happened but our team has been to underscore the ongoing health effects that people are feeling, it has now been about three weeks where we are actually passed a three week mark since this derailment and the beginning of the concern over these toxic materials pouring out of that train. that people are still telling us about their health concerns, even for people who were first coming to this community, now they will still be hearing about people who are dealing with things like they say bronchitis, people say their eyes are burning, have a horse throat. those are the kinds of things that are still an issue in this community, last night there was a town hall with famed environmental activists erin brockovich. he is helping lead one of the legal efforts against the railroad north and it tells us they cannot comment on those matters of litigation. but brockovich's message in part to this community is pretty simple. trust your gut. they are saying regardless of what you are hearing from officials or from the railroad about what the water and air

quality is now, what it might be down the road, trust how you are feeling and monitor your symptoms. that is something we have all seen as well. they want people to be writing down what they are feeling, keeping a record of that. keeping a journal, obviously this is clearly about building a legal case down the road. >> and then there is the criticism jessie of the biden administration and their response to all of this, i know the president himself has not been there as of yet. secretary buttigieg there a couple of days ago, being criticized on the ground in his appearance. what are they saying? >> he has our producer will assure time ago spoke with a resident here, asked about the president saying that he has no plan to come and visit east palestine and the resident basically said, he does not care one way or the other as long as the resources this community needs to get here. we know the epa is on the, ground also to fema and the cbc are on the ground. we are supposed to be speaking with the cdc shortly, the cdc is now involved with going door

by door and trying to get an assessment of what people are feeling. and what people will see with that going forward. and the federal government is here, and the president has been pretty forceful and saying they've been here since the beginning of nears part of what the president said about this. >> you are there two hours two hours, i've spoken with every single can figure in both pennsylvania and ohio. so the idea that we are not engaged, is something not there. keeping very close tabs. >> again though, the president says he has no plans of now to visit the community, its predecessor, former president donald trump was here earlier and the week as for the epa administration from the biden administration as well as transportation secretary, pete buttigieg. this community has been in the middle of a bit of a political

football match, but again as one president pointed to, us we need the resources. >> folks understandably worried about their health and well-being. and we get it jessie kurdish, we thank you. we are keeping our eye on a lawsuit out of texas that could change the landscape of abortion in this country. and a day, now a federal judge is expected to issue a former lawsuit that seeks to overturn the fda's approval of meth of pricetown. the first of two drugs used in a medication abortion. the ruling could have far-reaching implications in states where abortion is illegal, providers could soon lose the ability to and fact prescribed this drug. coming up in the next hour, we speak with rachel o'leary carmona, executive director of the women's march about what options women may have moving forward depending on this judges decision. i want to talk about winter storms as well battering the west coast. you will not believe this. san francisco experiencing as those temperatures in over a century, millions of other

folks throughout california under extreme weather warnings as a winter storm makes its way through the golden state. los angeles got its first blizzard warning in more than three decades. as snow fell on the hollywood sign, icy roads, treacherous flooding. they have caused road floaters as well across the entire state. some incredible images coming out of that right now. still ahead everybody, the special counsel investigating the former president wasting no time in trying to push those closest to donald trump to testify. plus, a former fbi agent says the dominion lawsuit against fox news reveals how the coach propaganda feedback operates in realtime, she joins me ahead. >> we have tens of thousands of civilians killed. there is no way you can trust a country that did that. at the same time, people on the ground are hopeful but skeptical. that is how i would describe it. >> hopeful but skeptical, that is how igor nicco cobb

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special counsel jack smith is dialing up the pressure on mike pence as nbc news learns from a senior law enforcement official smith has now asked a judge to compel pence to testify before a federal grand jury about the january 6th attack on the capitol. to talk more about, this i want

to bring in lisa, reuben msnbc legal analyst. let's talk of we can least for a moment about kind of the argument that the former vice president is making here. really if it has any legal merit to it so this is kind of how it is being put out there. the vice president was acting in his capacity as the president of the senate. while presiding over the vote count, he was essentially the argument he is making that it was essential-y a lawmaker right? is there for not required to testify due to constitutional protections. what do you make of this? >> it's a really interesting argument. certainly an open question with respect to the vice president. sort of has two components. one is, does it apply to the vice president when in this instance, he is not for example casting a tie breaking vote on a piece of legislation or judicial nomination? but acting in what he himself has described as the purely ceremonial, ministerial role of

counting the votes in the electoral college certification on january six. there are some experts who say no, one of those experts is judge michael luttig, a retired federal judge who was best known previous to this for advising plans on how he should conduct himself on january 6th. right? so i spoke with pence is a big deal. the second question is even if it does apply, folks like judge riddick or say it should fall away and be on a sliding scale because there is a demonstration of need. there were conversations between trump and pence that nobody else participated in, particularly on the pen side. they were not even overheard by aids. that's what chuck smith will say we really need those conversations, we need pants to testify because nobody else has that information. >> so then there is the ask of both jared kushner and ivanka trump. subpoenas put out there by the special counsel right? frank bowman, former federal prosecutor telling slate this, they will have a little bit of a problem refusing given that they've already testified to

the january 6th. house committee, we don't necessarily know which way they will go on this but considering the legal arguments that the trump team has been making and the lead up to all of this right? and how hard former presidents attorneys are trying to avoid the subpoenas, it's not out of the realm of possibility. >> it's not out of the realm of possibility that they will make the argument and as you know, in trump, world sometimes delay is itself though when it that they are looking? right before they can push this candle down the road, the harder it is for jack smith for example to bring his investigation to a conclusion, before a meaningful moment in the presidential campaign. that being, said i think it's a much easier question than the pence won. ivanka trump, jared kushner, that might be related to donald trump out there since charlotte to him as presidential advisers really is not one where executive privilege is a close question, and even if there was not a prior. >> then there is a georgia grand jury and now we are learning that several it seems

recommendations of indictments have been made by the georgia grand jury. there is also the former person, emily corps her name, is semen too and at the former president is also in the pipeline as well. it seems as if from what we are learning, trump's attorneys may take legal action with that. is this going to mess anything up? >> and again i think it's really a question of delaying proceedings rather than messing them up as you said. trump's attorneys are going to try and make a lot of hay out of what emily corps said, judge robert make birdie who is the fulton county judge, who is overseeing that special grand jury, he himself went on record this week with the atlanta journal-constitution and said essentially, emily course was on the right side of the line that he grew for those grand jurors. he told him they cannot disgusted deliberations. by deliberations, he meant a things that they discussed solely amongst themselves when no one else was in the room right? and so i think that trump's

people are going to try and make hay out of, this it is not going to work. >> lisa reuben as always, we thank you. all right, ida not believe it for one second. that is what fox news host, sean hannity told investigators about the false claims and voter fraud promoted by trump lawyers sneak powell what appeared on the network frequently after the 2020 election. calling tucker carlson also told the producers that powell is lying. he and other prominent host railed against her, originally on the conspiracy theories, even as they continued over and over again to support them publicly. these revelations, they are coming from a legal filing from dominion voting systems. now suing fox for defamation. fox has said that it stands by its coverage and is protected by the first amendment. asha is a former fbi agent and assistant dean at the yale jackson school of global affairs. asha is joining us now. we appreciate you joining us now. are you at all surprised by these revelations first and

foremost? that is fox news hosts believe little of what they were actually putting out there and promoting to millions of americans and dividing this country? >> no, i was not surprised at all. though the filing was incredibly revealing about how they approach the news and what it was describing is a symbiotic system. at think what's unusual about this lawsuit is that this is not just a you know rogue reporter that said something wrong or a one-off fall statement. this is an entire system and you know, i studied this information and there is actually a academic model that describes, it's called the propaganda feedback loop. and some, ways it was exciting because it actually demonstrated how the propaganda feedback loop operates in practice with these concrete examples of how they are presenting what the audience

wants to hear. and is essentially a closed system that does not have any internal checks or policing of the truth. >> so let's talk more about this because you are right about the propaganda feedback loop? right to me it kind of sounds like the argument that you are making in a way is that it's business right? you put this out, there these folks become kind of more extreme, more rabid and you have to provide them with the product to get them to continue watching. here is what you're right, as the audience gets more rapid, more extreme the news outlets in this bubble will have no choice but to follow along. so how do you cut that off? how do you break the cycle? >> yes so it's very difficult yasmin because this is a media ecosystem which is completely untethered to traditional media. so it is not only not following traditional journalistic practices, it doesn't let outside information in and on

top of, that what these outlets tell their audience is, if you hear something that is not what you want to hear, it is fake news. you can discount, a adult need to believe it. this is the problem that fox news ran into because they had condition their audience to discount anything that they heard those boot like. as soon as fox was not going in completely on the big lie, immediately after the election, the audience started going to other even more extreme outlets. and so fox had to double down and kind of get them back. >> that is the thing, it is not like these folks, if these people are believers a kind of the big lie and the fact that the 2020 election was stolen, they are not suddenly going to turn on msnbc for the truth and say okay no, that is the truth. those are the facts being reported on that network. they are going to double down as you said, very much of the propaganda that's being fed to them. it's not hearing what they want

to hear, they will go elsewhere to hear what they want to hear. while i have, you i want to quickly ask about speaker mccarthy giving tucker carlson this explicit footage from january six. reporter during the january 6th attack. nbc has requested this footage as well. talk about the damage that is being done in doing this? especially considering by the way, how hard fox news, tucker carlson specifically has gone after speaker mccarthy within the republican party? r mccarthy>> i think that's prey mccarthy has given him the footage. going back to that propaganda feedback loop, the implicit understanding is you do what i ask and i will give you favorable coverage right? mccarthy needs that favorable coverage to mobilize the vote for him. apart from the security issues and handing over all of this footage, who knows like you just don't really want all kinds of surveillance footage to be aired to people who have signs on the capital. we know now that what is going

to be dug with this is it will be cut and edited in ways that appease the audience. what fox news audience want to hear? they want to hear or see that these are peaceful protesters, invited in by the cops. ashli babbitt was shot without justification. we will see a propaganda version of that. my understanding is that chuck schumer, the minority leader also has access to this. i think he can provide it to news outlets as well. i think weighing the security concerns against you know preet punking these narratives, kind of getting ahead of the storyline is what will have to be weighed here. >> all right asha rangappa, thank you and good to talk to you. coming up next everybody, far-right congresswoman marjorie taylor greene proposes the idea of a national divorce. what this kind of rhetoric does to an already deeply divided nation? we will be right back. right back. t comes to safety,

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about, in a group of nose organizations including msnbc, who -- telemundo, they have asked kevin mccarthy to share thousands of hours of security footage from the january 6th insurrection. this is coming after the house speaker gave fox news host tucker carlson access to about 44,000 hours of video from the capitol riot that day. the california republican has not responded to multiple inquiries from fox news, about access to this footage but defended his decision to the new york times saying this. quote i was asked in the pressed about these tapes, and i said they do belong to the american public. i think santa and lets everybody make their own judgment. majority leader chuck schumer said mccarthy's decision quote poses grave security risks to lawmakers and capital steps. if you are wondering why mccarthy turned things these tapes over, specifically to tucker carlson, this might be a

little clue. >> congressman kevin mccarthy, a man who and drive it turns out sounds like an msnbc contributor. you will have a republican congress led by a puppet of the democratic party. he is in fact ideologically agnostic, he is flexible. as real constituency it's a lobbying community in washington. >> this is all of course before tucker got his hands on those tapes. want to bring in my panel joe walsh, former republican congressman and -- as well. joe, let me start with you on this one and kind of the real desperation it shows from kevin mccarthy. okay shine some light on this 44,000 hours of tape right? but yet the lights can only come from the right and that is fox news. >> it's dishonest jasmine. a bunch of bull. let's be clear about something. i don't think kevin mccarthy made this decision or rather he did but marjorie taylor greene

told him to do this. this is part of the deal that mccarthy cut to become speaker. while kevin mccarthy wanted was to become speaker, all he wants now is to remain speaker. and yasmin as you said, let's be clear, really clear about this. tucker carlson is the most dishonest dangerous person in the media today. for the speaker of the house to give him this january six footage is beyond irresponsible and dangerous. >> well and he knows tucker's audience. he knows who is watching, who is supporting he needs. i spoke about in my last segment right? he is giving the public that watch is tucker carlson what he feels as if they actually want to see. basil, if you will jump in here. leader schumer saying essentially this poses grave security risks. what do you make of it? >> yes i agree with that because as tucker is a

dangerous individual, as a result of this but i think mccarthy just as much because with all of the six s votes to become speaker, what did he promised? these are the questions we have in realtime. we are seeing that play out. we are seeing that play out throughout his leadership that he clearly isn't detritus or many people for so many things. what i'll tissue willing to give up there on the road? if you also think about the fact that you know, how easy can he be ousted from his position right? that was one of the concerns. and so with his, him thinking look i am hanging on by a thread as it is, one wonders what else he will give up down the road. i will say this very quickly, i understand it's important for everybody to be able to see this footage, the one concern i have is sort of a state of cognitive dissonance. everybody is seeing so much and telling their own story about, it we lose the broader and

prevailing narrative that the committee set out when they did their investigation. that is the one that should linger in the minds of americans. so that is the concern that i have that we start to know adding to many other or so many other narratives that we lose sight of the main one. >> do you know what? it is really interesting basil, you bring up a really good point, specifically kind of about the trickle it seems, the slow trickle of deals that were made by kevin mccarthy, we don't necessarily know about. the deals that were made with the matt gates of the world and marjorie taylor greene and lauren orbits of the world. what do you worry about most with that as more is coming to light? >> i worry that we don't know everything that he promised. we just don't know and some of the things that he may have promised we'll get reported. like this footage and there is a lot that will not get reported on that will not come to light. he's talking about sunshine

laws, i doubt very much that the sun will shine on everything that he does and says and to home. that is my real concern. there is a security risk here, threat of national security here that is concerning and it should concern all americans. >> joe, let me ask you a last question really quick while i have you. that is about former vice president mike pence, jack enlisting out when it comes to subpoena issued by jack smith. is he doing himself at this point any favors? he is potentially running for president of the united states. the fact is he is not really going to garner support from the former presidents base. so why not just come forward, when you have every legal expert, especially someone like judge luttig who he turn to for advice during the 2020 election and the certification of the 2020 election and just testify? provided testimony to smith. >> yes yasmin, pence complained yesterday about the unprecedented effort to get him to cooperate with now smith and

before, with the january six committee. it would not have been an unprecedented effort if mike pence had just done the right thing and put his country first. you are right, he has no lane and this republican party, way to many republicans this maga party will never forgive him for what he did on january six. my god, if at this point you can't do the right thing, then you never will. >> joe walsh thank you, pass michael thank you as well. coming up everybody, the impact of one year of war for ukrainians who decided to stick it out in their home country. igor novikov former president adviser to zelenskyy joins me next to talk about your ahead and whether he'd things and end to the conflict is near. plus, next hour, a live report from texas where former vice president mike pence that we just spoke about rebuked his fellow republicans over their lack of support for ukraine. we will be right back. be rightac bk.

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one earmark of the war in ukraine, igor novikov as a former adviser to president zelenskyy. he has remained and ukraine with his family throughout the war and joining us now. igor as always, fantastic speak with you. you and i have spoken many times over the last year. as you think about the last 12 months and what was expected of this conflict and where you are now with this conflict. what do you make of it? >> well yasmin, it's great to see you. first of all, look to me it was obvious from day one of what was going to happen and let me explain to you why. because you know there are some people who are contempt with merely existing and there are others who are basically willing to die to truly live. ukraine is the latter okay? so you know i did not expect kyiv to fall in three days, i did not expect ukraine to fall.

where's case scenario, we could've been destroyed, all of us but you know we are a country of three revolutions. we are not a country that will just surrender and live under somebody's rule. that is just insane. >> you posted this twitter video which i thought was really interesting. it was from february 23rd of 2022. we talk about that very day in this video and you talk about what you did on that day. you've got a haircut and he bought a bottle of whisky because essentially, you heard that the invasion was coming. talk to me about what was going through your mind on that day? >> well i mean yes the whiskey and haircut, the haircut is a funny story because somebody told me back in the day that i look like jimmy fallon. so i thought it was a good idea to cut my hair short to tracked more attention once the war begins. >> you do actually, now that you say it. >> i need to lose some weight,

i admit that. even though the memory that i have from that day is that you know the saying and feeling of hasse realistic to asian is. for example bringing on the stance that there will be a war beyond any shadow of a doubt. i have been told by you know sources in the know but on the other hand and i know meads of picturing it. so i don't know what to expect. i don't know what explosion sound like. and the sense you know one year later as a veteran, i've seen it all, i've done it all and you know i'm here to tell the tale. >> what do you make of the fact that your president, vladimir zelenskyy was underestimated before this war began. people thought he was a good guy right? there to fight corruption, elected to fight corruption and ukraine which is something your country desperately needed right? they did not necessarily know if he had in him to be a wartime president. he has proved that and then some. and there is the ukrainian people and the ukrainian military as well.

which i would also say it was underestimated by the global community when it comes to fighting this war. >> well to be honest, it's a question of moral and what are you fighting for? in ukraine, every person knows that there are things more important in life and my knee, vodka or washing machines right? we actually fighting for something bigger than that. that is what makes ukrainians better fighters because you know, that guy who's fighting for the washing machine cannot fight the guy who's living to fight and free. it is a given and presidents aligned ski as far as he is concerned, i have no doubt as well because you know he is just an ordinary guy. and i have seen them, i've had the privilege of seeing his right action to the pressure from president trump and rudy giuliani behind the scenes. i would see advisor in charge of that and to be honest, you know when russia invaded, i knew what was going to happen. because just like you did with

russia, the first time we experience that pressure was one on one with him. the day that they were supposed to be in kyiv. he did not come because the plane broke down in europe. basically, zelenskyy was one-on-one with me and he said well what are we going to do about them? i have no answer, i was not a fighter. i wasn't we can do my job and he said whatever we do, make sure we don't get dragged into it. that's a question of there being something bigger than just you know material gains or short term games. >> igor novikov as always, such a pleasure to speak with you, a true jimmy fallon lookalike. you don't need to lose anyway, it you look great. and we are so happy you have continued to stay safe throughout the last year. we got to speak to you again soon. >> thank you yasmin. >> after the break everybody, new details revealed by alex murdaugh after he took the stand in his own double murder trial this week. >> i told a lie about being

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i am yasmin vossoughian. if you are just joining us, welcome. if you are sticking with, us thank you. we were trying to play some really good reporting we had on the incredible testimony we saw from alex murdaugh last week. we weren't able to get that going for you, but i'm going to play that for you and are coming our. you don't wanna miss. that going on the record, president biden is facing new questions on the next news in ukraine to help that country fend off a year-long russian invasion. >> we are sending him what are our susan military thinks he needs now. he needs tanks, he needs artillery, he needs air defense

including heim are. there are things he needs. now that we are sending him to put him in a position to be able to make games the spring and the summer going into the fall. >> we just need f-16s. now >> know he doesn't need f-16s. now >> i will ask former retired army lieutenant generals steph tweety what equipment and training he believes ukraine needs to stop the russian aggression. back home, a battle of a different kind. it is the fight for women's reproductive rights and it is ongoing. and then, fears are growing over a major court ruling expected in the state of texas. that will ultimately impact the entire nation. >> it will be devastating. even in places where they have worked very hard to secure access to abortion, states like california, new york, here in d.c.. >> and, in florida, outrage on college students. they are protesting republican gun vendor ron desantis policies targeting the lgbtq community and students of color. i'm going to speak with the state representative who marched side by side with them

to find out how this can be stopped at the legislative level. and then, what is in the water? in east palestine ohio. weeks after that devastating change real mint and the release of hazardous chemicals. we are going to dig into new reporting that just a thing of the water supply being described by some as a debacle. we begin with ukraine. the war entering its second year. president biden saying the u.s. will continue to do whatever it takes to fight russia's aggression. want to bring in now, lieutenant general and msnbc military analyst. welcome. thanks for joining us on this. let me just ask you first as we just heard of course from that sound i played in that interview on abc news from the president saying, yes of course, we will continue to support ukraine. in the time to come. so long as russia continues to occupy areas of ukraine. however, they do not need

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