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you have not been able to tell that much during the last year because of the war, about the fact that this country has a rich and distinct culture? >> i was standing in between two great cathedrals.

one cathedral is behind you, saint sophia of the 11th century. and this, one st. michael's cathedral, was ruined by the way, by bolsheviks insurgents, and was fully rebuilt. but this is the great square, it shows how rich the ukraine history is, and russia right now, they are robbing artifacts from museums, so they steal also our history, because ancient kyiv started from here the place where we are standing right now. and russians all the time or trying to take this on their behalf, the rich history of ukraine. >> but going back to the 30s, this has been a struggle for ukrainians. they have always felt that association with russia is meant to diminish the cultural heritage. vladimir putin said it on the night he declared the special military operation, that it is not a place of culture and history? >> they are denying our identity. and then the presence of identity, the main

representation is of quote, cultural heritage sites, our history, language, literature, our type of music. and denying that identity means to lying ukraine and denying cross cultural heritage sites. they ruined completely more than 500 historical and architectural sites during this war. some of them have targeted specifically, like the museum in the kharkiv region, or a museum in the kyiv region. this is done on purpose, the same thing they are doing, trying to take our artifacts. what is important to mention, we probably have the biggest stealing of artifacts since the second world war. at the same time, the biggest evacuation of artifacts. hundreds of thousands of objects were evacuated during the war, because we are caring about cultural heritage. by the way, i'm thankful to the

united states department, which recently announced this week, 7 million dollar assistance, specifically to preserve ukrainian culture. >> one of the things we spoke about yesterday with mr. kirk of, the author, is the degree to which in the occupied parts of ukraine, occupied by russia, they are even banning books and stories about ukraine history and culture, particularly books which are about recent struggles with russia, but even those which go back to the 30s? >> i have been in the liberated kharkiv region, i have seen now what is happening with not only ukrainian's throw books, but all books in the ukrainian language, they are trying to move them out of libraries, even a stephen king book, which i saw about my own eyes. the issue is that in schools, they are trying to impose so-called lessons about russian history. so, how they want it to be. and the whole purpose of

putin's war is simply to say that the next day, they can deny any other nation. because this is the face of an aggressor. >> what about the ukrainian language? when you go further to the east and south, there are a lot of ukrainians whose day to day life involves speaking russian. there are many kids, who have changed to speaking ukrainian as a language in their house and at school. but the russian language has a lot of presence in the east of this country with ukrainians? >> of course. but habits and behavior of ukrainians, especially during this war, changed completely. many people who are even in kyiv, speaking ke'bryan language in day-to-day life have changed themselves, nobody told them that they need to change, and of turned to ukrainian. because culture and language is a sort of defense shield for us. and i think that this tradition, or this strength will continue.

and for example, my smallest kid, started with my wife speaking with him at home, ukrainian since 2015 when he was born. and definitely, he can speak russian, but he speaks with a ukrainian accent. he definitely knows english right now, and we have a problem with the government, how to make instead of russia as the second language, english as a second language. >> tell me about what happens after this war with those people, who either claim some russian heritage or are more comfortably russian, how do you make sure this does not happen to them, that they don't end up being second class citizens if they are more comfortable in russian, because there are people in this country who have one parent who is russian, one who is ukrainian, or they were born in russia, family in russia. how do you make sure you do not due to the russians with the russians have done to the ukrainians? >> as soon as they identify themselves as ukrainians, our sharing of values, respect with ukrainian culture, then no

problem. >> you pointed out, we have been showing pictures of saint michaelson front of us, but saint sofia over there, this one was not destroyed in the 1930s. this is over 1000 years old, this thing behind us. >> yes. and there is a tradition to say, saint sofia, you can see mosaics of the byzantine style, with the virgin mary. and the rumor says that if they stay, kyiv stays. >> good to see you in person, sir. thank you for being right in your prediction that they will not take kyiv. >> my pleasure. >> good to see you. oleksandr tkachenko, ukraine's minister of culture and information policy. the united states now believes china might be set to supply weapons to russia for its use in the war in ukraine. coming up, i will talk about the catastrophic consequences and ramifications should that come to pass. the former president of estonia, and the head of the global magnate justice campaign bill browder. during my time in ukraine, i had the opportunity to sit down with six military chaplains for an enlightening conversation

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friend and colleague and erin mclaughlin. i've been coming to you live from ukraine celestial east. she's been doing reporting in the town of bucha just outside of kyiv. you've been telling us a little bit about what you found there. it's really quite a rich story. >> that's right. this is a story about to ukrainians who don't know each other from very different walks of life both united in a common goal to help save their country. >> much of the city of abuja is being rebuilt. one resident is relieved. a year ago, this road was a

hell-scape, littered with the bodies of russian soldiers and charred tanks. it's extraordinary to see the difference. two days into the war, he installed a surveillance camera in his attic. he watched the drive on his cell phone as russian tanks rolled down the street while he was crouched into a tiny makeshift bomb shelter with eight other people, their dog, and a cat. he says the tag south there for a couple of hours. the russian soldiers had seemingly no idea where to go. his call to the ukrainian military for help was soon answered by drones and a loud thunderous noise. the column was completely destroyed. >> [inaudible] >> no one on the street died? >> no. everybody lived. >> meanwhile, a mere 15 miles

away in kyiv, city councilman dmytro was scrambling to ready the capital for war. >> we understand that mr. putin is crazy. he wants to make hell in kyiv. >> two days after the today show interview, his family was torn apart as his wife arena was driving through the capital. he says ukrainian soldiers mistakenly opened fire. a bullet fragment shattered her left eye. their three boys in the backseat. she was evacuated to europe for surgery. their children or send to stay with friends in the west. to make sure what -- >> [inaudible] she will go or he will stay and fight for his city for his country. >> then you get a gun? >> yeah. >> shortly after history was

bombed, he says the ukrainian military retreated. the russian occupation began. >> reuse of this entrance. >> they eventually escaped to europe through a green corridor. two weeks later, ukrainians won the battle for kyiv. dmytro was one of the first ukrainian officials to enter liberated bucha, bearing witness to the horrors that had unfolded there. >> many families many people were broken their because of a mission from one man. >> a year from the start of the russian invasion, his family is reunited in kyiv. >> i think -- >> homes in bucha are being repaired with the help of international organizations. >> without the help of united states and great britain, it was very difficult. >> like millions of ukrainians on this grim anniversary, both are grateful to be alive.

another note about dmytro and his wife, they are actually refugees from crimea. in 2014, they were forced to flee after he had been kidnapped at a pro ukrainian rally. his car was torched. they now call kyiv home but they hope to return to crimea sunday. >> what a story. one of the things that you and i were talking about earlier in the week is that no one is waiting for this were to be over before rebuilding, even bucha, which was a hell escape, like you said, in april 2022. there is construction, greens, peoples homes are being rebuilt. you wouldn't know if you didn't know there are clues all over including bullet holes in trees and buildings. you would not know if you didn't know. >> just a few days ago, i was outside of a building that had been struck by a missile. it is now a construction site. another side was struck by missile. you would never know it. it's completely rebuilt. it looks exactly as it did

before. >> as does this, although this was not ruin in the war. when you look at this, you think it has been through 1000 years. they are just going to keep on rebuilding and keep on doing what they do. what have you learned on this trip that is so different from when you were here at the beginning of the war? >> i was in bucha shortly after the russians retreated, walking through the streets, seeing the construction, hearing these incredible stories. vasil just returned in june. he had been in the czech republic with his wife. to hear his story and the details of what was going on during the russian occupation gives him chills. another sign of that ukrainian resilience. >> we don't have the details from a lot of places which are still occupied. we don't have the details from places like mariupol. a lot of people say, if you watched the european, you may actually have a very dim

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under wartime marshmallow in this country men between ages of 18 and 60 years old are not allowed to leave the country. he was not forced to stay, he chose to. he holds the rank of major in the ukrainian army. he's a chaplain. he visits and gives council troops battling on the front lines. she has returned back home as he saw yesterday to eastern ukraine. i caught up with her and met her family including her father. i sat down with him and five of his fellow chaplains to talk about the role these ministers play in the war. out of wartime chaplains keep themselves going even after providing comfort for so many others? >> what is the role of chaplains in the military in ukraine. >> translator: the role of the chaplain is to be close to the soldiers and support them. a person is not just a complex, a machine, but is also spiritual and soulful. it's a support. to be near war is constant stress. it's constant stress that never ends. a person simply burns out.

not even from the fact that something hey hit close, that it is dangerous, but internally, psychologically. not only is it a fear of death and injuries, but also worries for one's family, country, and all this in a complex exhausts a person and dreams their strength. therefore, the chaplain is just a person who can support him. >> let's talk about the stress. we are looking at the soldiers as being very brave, patriotic, determined, and yet you see the other side. you chaplains see what they suffer, what they fear. >> there's a moment when a person's finish something an emptiness comes. the dangerous past there, comes a moment when there is this emptiness in a person that requires some kind of filling. to support a person who just came from the meat grinder, these five days of rest are the time when a person simply relaxes. someone tries to find alcohol. someone finds solace in

something else. this riverside is precisely the time when a person relaxes, when everything comes out of him, both fears and worries. >> translator: today, we live in such a time that soldiers have to do everything very fast -- learn fast, quickly learn to use new opens. we do everything fast. as our pastor says, everything that we cannot do fast we do even faster. we have no time to give a. by doing all of this quickly, experiencing all the hits, areas, attacks on the enemy, the human body is limited. there are moments when a person simply cannot stand it. they are not iron. even iron breaks. >> let's talk about death for a moment. when i spoke to people last year, they said we will mourn later. right now, we have to fight. you have heard a year of soldiers dying and civilians dying. in this area, it has been nine

years of people fighting and dying. how do you handle all of this death and the morning end of the sadness well you still have a war to fight? >> translator: i don't serve on the frontlines with the boys. besides being a chaplain, i'm also a pastor of a church. i travel. i try to bring something to both military and civilian people. i don't see death on the front line. our friends are dying. my good friend i the summer. it's hard. you can't get used to death. death is always scary. death is always pain, internal pain. i am a religious person aliqopa this with the help of god with a prayer. death is an inevitable part of life. death seems a part of life here now which is normal. we may have gotten used to death in a way, but every death is a painful one. >> translator: when we go to soldiers and help the soldiers with equipment, we feel strong feedback and gratitude. it motivates us. we pray for everyone. no one ever refused. all people want to be prayed

for an ask for more prayers. they say go, but don't forget to pray for us. >> you see death and destruction are very close. you see what some people are calling work rhymes. how do you deal with the? how do you deal with how bad it is? >> translator: the most important thing was to convey to the soldiers to remain human. in the end, they would not identify with those who attacked us. when you see this senseless cruelty, when you see these atrocities, the most important thing is to help the soldiers to state human. it is simply a miracle that ukraine is such a nation. russia is fighting in ukraine against the whole world. ukraine is fighting russia for the whole world. >> let's discuss humanity for a moment. your religion teaches you to love other people and to forgive them. can you love and forgive the people who have done the things that you have witnessed? >> translator: at this time, it is very difficult.

even though we are spiritual and religious and we know the bible and understand that it is necessary to forgive, we must forgive, but the bible teaches us that we must first ask for forgiveness. russia does not ask for forgiveness very much. sometimes, it seems that people don't understand what they are doing. they don't understand the grief they have brought to the country. a lot depends on whether the one who does evil admits, whether he understands what he is doing, whether he asked for forgiveness, whether he read pence. as we speak in religious language, forgiveness is possible, but it takes a long time. the war is going on and we don't know how everything will end. we don't know what it will happen in the evening. >> kenneth could be forgiven? it is unclear. the russians are like an earthquake. it's just a danger that needs to be eliminated. when repentance comes, when they ask for forgiveness, ukrainians are a generous nation. they have a big heart. >> what is it that allows the smaller country with a less

strange military with fewer weapons to go out there and fight every day? i know you're getting weapons from western countries and nato countries, but what causes the soldiers to go out one year later and keep on staying in the battle? >> translator: when the great invasion began, i began to see things. we want to the boys for the war and passed on to the people who were on the front, live near the front line. when we offer them health, people said that we had enough. give it to our neighbors. i saw that ukrainians were united and worried about each other. >> when the soldiers and their families had such difficulty and they sought to many things and they experienced too much of the horrible-ness of war, they turned to you. they turned to youwhere do you go when you e too much refill too much orders too much? >> translator: i try not to do anything without prayer. i always pray for all matters and needs. 90% of the time, i see the answer.

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or your call, foreign journalists have come in and out of the country. our job is to bear witness for the world to the atrocities of the war. we come in and meet people, tell their stories. for ukrainian journalists, this is home. the story of the war is different for them. their job, like ours, is to make sure the world is watching, but how the story unfold and the outcome of the war is their story as well. that's the story of my next guest. carol is a well-known news anchor and reporter here in ukraine. she has remained steadfast in

her dedication to reporting on the war, even has her own life offended by it. she left ukraine after the russian invasion and landed in germany where she anchored a daily news program specifically for the ukrainian refugee population there. despite being forced to leave ukraine, she knew she had to carry on her purposes as a journalist, telling the associated press, quote, my life has changed completely but i'm ukrainian and i want to be like a voice of freedom for people for all the people suffering from this war. she is back in ukraine and joins me live in kyiv. she's a longtime tv host in ukraine, most recently anchor to the show ukraine update which airs on the german tv channel. great to meet you. >> thank you for your introduction. >> everything about you was interesting including your name. your friends call you carroll. >> it's sort. it's a short version of my name. my father's nigerian.

my mom is not with me. she called me lina. it's whatever you like. >> you were born in ukraine? >> my parents -- >> a lot of detail for our show. >> my parents met during the soviet union time in leningrad. i was born in ukraine in the northern part of ukraine. >> you were here, a tv host when the war broke out? you went to germany and were doing the show for ukrainian speakers. >> exactly. i don't know the germinal language. i was lucky. it was my dream or my plan to stay in germany for a long time. each person who flee from the war, i have my story. i lost my mother and my best

friend and they both died before the war. i was really depressed. it was really challenging for me. when my friend asked me to help to transporter children, i immediately agree. as a matter of fact, i stayed in germany and i was lucky that i found a job. they were looking for journalists who could do something for ukrainian refugees, for ukrainian people. . >> i was in hungary at the beginning of the war. people were still coming from the east of the country. they got off the trains. i think some of our viewers might have been surprised. there were a lot of black people, indians. they were coming mostly from kharkiv where the universities were. it is still not that familiar

to be seeing people of color in ukraine. tell me about your experience including as a major television anchor. >> i want to emphasize that ukraine is well known for our hospitality. it's in our genes and dna, you know? it was always like so many different skin color, students who started here. it was not a problem at all. show me the country who doesn't have any racial issues or -- it's everywhere. in this country's, -- [inaudible] sometimes, she happens. i'm a public person. you know, i have my story. it is close because i got

really strong and huge support from people. i think that it will never happen in ukraine especially in the circumstances when we all united and we need support. we always welcome people from different skin colors, shape. in that situation, i heard a lot about this situation with african students. i understood that it was not very nice. i can't recommend it because i wasn't there. >> you feel that generally speaking ukrainians -- >> it's a very tolerating country. after the war finishes, i really believe that the people from all over the world from africa, india, asia will come

and they will build with ukrainians our new future. >> a lot of people left the country as refugees who didn't want to leave. there are some who are in danger of -- all these nations have a shortage of workers. they don't actually mind if the ukrainians stay there. how does this country get all its best people back rebuilding? >> this is the issue. i think the government has a big challenge to solve. people, this is a new oil in our time. if you ask me, -- i'm sorry for my bad english. >> it's fantastic. >> i know lots of ukrainians who are ready to come back to

ukraine. it will be like this, i am sure. >> we keep hearing the same thing. we talked to ukrainians who do not leave by choice. they're waiting to come back. >> to come back. >> they don't say if, they say when. >> yeah, when. all the people need a stable life, especially people who have children, who have children. >> you've seen the war from both sides. right now, we are a year in. there seems to be a great deal of support from nato and the u.s.. >> you are like a person from -- the number one friend to ukraine, thank all of you for doing this job. >> what is your message to people in the world if they get border started not pay attention to the story? what do you want them to know? >> i would like to make them know that ukraine, my country

is really them -- we have a president who is a leader of freedom, a new world. he's not a symbol. he's a symbol. i like that ukraine -- we need support. we need support strongly. until the end of the war, until the victory of this war, until the territory of ukraine will be exactly like it was in 1991, only like this. >> great to see you. thank you for coming. karol ashion is the host of ukraine update in germany. volodymyr zelenskyy says what he witnessed after the liberation of bucha were some of the worst images of the war. earlier this week, i visited bucha and saw a town in a community trying to rebuild both literally and spiritually

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about bucha this, week it's a suburb of kyiv, and i went to visit there the other day with members of parliament who i talked to on the day that bucha was liberated, april 2nd of last year. and we were, he was showing us some of the images of bucha last year but then he pointed at a. house and he wondered whether the people who lived in that house might still live there. and it turns out that they do. we had a remarkable reunion, this was a member of parliament, alexia, tells me that they've turned the memory from one of the more it's the -- worst in his life to one of the best. he was a beautiful reunion with the family that still lives there. we're gonna bring it back to you in this. moment i want to turn our cameras around for a.

second we've been in the square, the saint michael square, i told you about the cathedral, in the monastery, but what stands in front of it are these tanks. these are rusted out russian tanks. these were captured in the battle of kyiv. and this is a very important gathering place for a lot of ukrainians. it's sunday night. now all weekend, all day, people come here, they look at these tanks, they take pictures on them, they actually climb on them. you've probably seen it in the background of some of my shots. there are zahl sorts of tanks here, various types of armored vehicles, personnel carriers, and battle tanks. these are a symbol of the fact that while this country is still at war, there were parts of this particular city that were both hit by missiles and where russian troops actually invaded eight miles from where i stand they'd almost take in the city of kyiv. they sort of occupied the

suburbs of the city, european hostomel in bucha on february 27th. the war started on february 20. fourth by february 27th and taken some of these places. they were not liberated until the end of, march beginning of april. that's when they realize the atrocity. these tanks stand here as symbols of what the ukrainian defense was able to do. what civil defense was able to do and the yoke rainy and military was able to do and they believe that they were able to take this capital, kyiv, in three. days that didn't happen. i spoke with the president yesterday, part of the reason that didn't happen is that over the years, since the invasion, of crimea in 2014, the ukrainian forces have trained in a more western style of integrated and combined military activity. whereas the russians still fight in a very -- a fairly soviet style. an old-fashioned way.

throwing people at battle and trying to overwhelm the enemy. that is why a less trained army may have better training. a smaller army may have a greater success than the russian army because they are train differently. earlier this week, we heard the idea that nato is working to train the ukrainian military and an even more integrated fashion. so that they can use artillery and infantry troops on the ground. along with our support and things like patriot missiles. ukraine is asking for a long range missile missiles, and f-16 fighter jets, both of those requests have been turned down. but if past is prologue we may find in the coming weeks and months there is a approval from the west and from nato to provide this country with fighter jets. that is something they believe will turn the tide of this war. we will be right back with more on our coverage from ukraine after this break. ter this break teeth sensitivity as well as gum issues. does it worry me? absolutely.

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kyiv, 6 pm, that's a beautiful st. michaels cathedral. as you pull out you'll see the bell tower on the st. michaels monastery. an ancient site, not an ancient building. this was destroyed by the soviets. and rebuilt by the ukrainians. the charge, you'll see behind me momentarily, that one has

been standing for 1100 years. those are russian rested tanks on the site, on the, grounds of saint michael square. good morning. it is sunday, february 26th, day three 68 of russians war on ukraine, nearly a year ago, russian troops rolled into the town of bucha. weeks later, the world was exposed to the horrors. >> for several days now, and for several reasons, we've been hearing that we are approaching a turning point in this war. and now it seems we are there. >> that is how i open this show on april 3rd of last year. it was the turning point i was referring to, bucha, a town on the outskirts of kyiv. only 15 miles from where i am today. days earlier, ukrainians had liberated the town from russian forces. that weekend, the world saw the first images and dispatches of the brutal massacre that happened there. civilian residents were killed indiscriminately, hands were tied behind their backs, and bodies left to rot on the side of the road for weeks.

women told stories of being raped by russian soldiers. one of the first on the ground till the -- new cranium parliament appeared in my show that weekend. while he was still in bucha. earlier this week, nearly a year after russians first occupied bucha, i met up with him in that town. we took a short walk. he told me about the horrific scenes he saw along just one block in bucha. and how the town still bears the scars of war, and surprising the recovery has taken place since it was liberated. >> do you see this is from solids. this is from ballots, and these trees were all wounded from ballots. they were just firing in a chaotic way. >> see all, these this is the violence. and all these benches were destroyed, and these are new ones. shooter