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we need to have military communications channels to avoid escalation, to avoid surprise, to avoid mistake. it is unfortunate that the chinese defense ministry has declined to take calls from the u.s. secretary of defense. that's on china. from the u.s. perspective, for the rest of the world, we are acting responsibly. it is not at all lines indication are cut, are shut off. rather, that we do not have the military to military exchanges that we think are necessary to ensure stability. >> new reaction today the house speaker kevin mccarthy's release of capital right videos to fox host tucker carlson. one congresswoman says the video comes from highly sensitive security cameras. >> it is revealing of where the capitol police are and different staging. what was going on. it would give access to bad actors to try to do it again.

it's extraordinarily irresponsible. and how irresponsible of the speaker of the house to live up to some campaign promise to the far right and to tucker carlson to release the tapes. >> new fallout over a series of enemies given by the farm -- that special branch are investigating alleged election interference in georgia. donald trump's lawyers firing back today. >> it looks like they lost perspective over keeping separation between prosecuting attorneys and the members of this grand jury. there cannot be relationship when the four person uses the word we, that lets you know there's a relationship there. when she said in interviews certain battles for not worth us battling, it's not the special purpose grainger e that litigating, it's the district attorney's office. >> we're gonna have more on that from a legal expert in just a few minutes. we also some new fears that the supreme court may once again be

called on to weigh in on abortion. as the country awaits a texas court ruling on abortion medication. we'll have the latest on that for you as well. we have reporters to go over the dates of 11. let's go first of the white house. nbc's monica alba. monica, welcome to you and then you interviewed the president also talked about the economy. would you are we hearing today? >> this wasn't a portion of that interview, alex. we heard the president actually talking about the empathy calculation here. saying he understands why people feel like they are struggling. like they have really been counted out in some respects when it comes to the economy. at the same time, this is a president in the white house who has always said that the economic recovery was going to be a bit more of a marathon than a sprint. if you look at some of the indicators, there are trends that are going in the right direction. when you look at record unemployment, for instance. that inflation, of course, continue suggest be too high. even though it has east of a bit. the president was asked

specifically to assess how that is going. what more needs to be done. inflation was the first thing that he referenced. take a listen to a little bit more of what he said in terms of how many americans right now, when they sit down at the end of the day, feel just about the status of their lives. >> inflation is still higher than it should be. everything from gasoline prices to a war going on in ukraine. i can think of a time when there is been a greater uncertainty. notwithstanding the fact we created 800,000 manufacturing jobs. we're better off than any other major nation in the world, economically. it's understandable why people are just down. >> the president as a candidate often talked about taking amtrak for years as a senator and looking out and seeing peoples homes around the dinner table. wondering what kind of conversations they were having about certain economic difficulties. that was one of the motivating

factors for why he wanted to run. this, of course, raises the question of 2024 and how he would approach some of these things if he does indeed seek another term. we're getting the clear indication that yet the president does want to seek another term from his wife. the first lady who was traveling abroad in kenya in the last couple of days. she gave an interview where she said essentially the only thing left is to pick the time and place for that announcement. the president, in an interview with abc, was also asked to address questions about his age. he would be 86 at the end of a second term. and he said to all the critics and doubters he said there still a lot left that i want to do. just simply, watch me. >> absolutely. amtrak, i've not heard him call that for quite some time. it certainly -- thank you very much, monica alba. let's go now to some new reaction to those warnings from democrats over the security risks posed by tucker carlson receiving thousands of hours of january six video. we're going to nbc's julie circus standing by for us on

capitol hill. julie, another welcome, what are you hearing from lawmakers about all their concerns? >> these are 44,000 hours of security footage. virtually every single camera in this capitol complex. much of it never viewed before by the public from what happened on january six. there was real security concern from democratic leadership and also from the top democrat on the house intelligence committee. i know you spoke to him. and it was a fantastic interview really giving insight into what the democratic leaders especially on these committees with relevance of these matters have to say about this. take a listen to a portion of that. >> anybody planning an attack on the capital would love to know the cameras are, they would love to know where the police stations are. from the standpoint of the safety of the capital, a huge problem. i think the only piece that can be fixed as eventually the american public will -- or other news media outlets will get a chance to look at these things that when tucker does whitaker does, which is a lie about what is really happening in the southern -- will have an opportunity to read but his whatever selective editing he does. >> alex, this is exactly why a

coalition of news organizations including abc news signed on to that letter formally requesting that speaker kevin mccarthy grant access to these footage to the rest of the media organizations. really quickly on the politics here are. sources tell me that this, of course, as to do with those sessions and members of the far-right of the republican party in the house -- that mccarthy had to make to them in order to get the speakers gavel. this shows you how far are he has to go in this new congress to meet their demands while moderate republicans and frankly most republicans on week here in washington but in the rest of the country are trying to move past what happened january six. this is a dynamic to watch here as well. of course, we expect carlson to air some of this footage in the coming days. >> okay, julie tsirkin thank you for that up as we turn back to the word ukraine now. it just passed 20 year since russia launched its full scale invasion. in a new tweet today, president zelenskyy wrote nine years ago,

russian aggression began in crimea. by returning crimea, we will restore peace. this is our land, our people, our history. we will return to ukrainian flag to every corner of ukraine. it comes as new concerns mount over china's role in the conflict. three current u.s. officials now telling nbc news china is considering sending artillery and ammunition to russia. cia director william burns confirmed the possibility earlier today. >> we're confident that the chinese leadership is considering the provision of a full equipment. we also don't see that final decision has been made yet. we don't see evidence of actual shipments of lethal equipment. that's why, i think, secretary blinken and the president have thought it important to make very clear what the consequences of that would be. >> joining me now, colorado congressman jason crow. a democratic member of the house intelligence and armed services committee. welcome back to the broadcast.

good to see you. as you now, you are here right there. the intelligence is out there. china is considering arming russia. but you heard senator birx make it clearer. hasn't happened yet. by making this intel public, is the biden ministration hoping to deter china from actually doing it. do you think it will serve as a deterrent? >> hi, hours, could be back with you. that's exactly what's going on here. this was a new model of intelligence sharing that we actually have been doing really for the last year or so. it happened with the administration declassified information about the weaponization of space. russia and china are trying to weaponize space and do very irresponsible anti-satellite attacks. creating space debris. declassified information about the last year which led to a huge diplomatic blow back against russia. they back off of it. same thing with ukraine. really unprecedented

declassification of information leading up to the invasion of ukraine. what's actually put ukraine in a better position to defend itself helped create an international coalition prepared everybody for what's to come. we're seeing the snow again. this is a remarkable model that the biden menstruation has deployed so effectively to create international coalitions to pressure irresponsible countries like russia and china from doing irresponsible things. i think we'll see much more of it in the years to come. >> okay, but what could it mean if china arms russia? how could the u.s. respond? >> we certainly could respond with additional sanctions against china. what we'll see is the expansion of international coalition. a lot of our partners and nato and europe have been a little bit reluctant to actually pressure china in the way that we have seen a response to russia. if china got involved in this war, i think that would change.

it would allow us to create sanctions regime to punish china for that irresponsibility. but also put public diplomatic pressure on it as well. >> as tensions are rising with china, and we said he's got some accidents at a u.s. navy mission while it was monitoring the south china sea. let's take a look at some what happened. here it is. >> u.s. aircraft -- >> were over the south china sea and that is a chinese j 11 fighter. he's flying right beside us. >> we see the pilot and then an officer in the back. they're armed with some arid air weapons. >> these are happening more often? >> yes. >> this is an up close view of a chinese warship in the water east of taiwan. they've been calling on the radio, warning this aircraft to keep its distance. >> a jelani fighter plane to shadowing the u.s. plane there. they did so for an hour. how dangerous is the situation with china right now?

>> i don't think it's dangerous per se in the moment. i think that there are certainly opportunities for escalation. that we need to avoid the administration of the department of defense, state department are always very vigilant and making sure there isn't misunderstanding that were conflicting airspace. clearly, china's pushing boundaries. they have -- their asserting themselves. they're acting in a very responsible way with the shadowing flyovers tracking our planes. they've been clamping down on freedom of navigation in the south china sea sea for many years. preventing freedom of navigation within a certain area of international waters. trying to take over fishing grounds. trying to weaponize military bases on islands. china does not believe in democracy. they don't believe in international rules. much like russia, they believe that if your bigger and stronger, you can set your own

rules. that's what they're trying to do. that's why democracies, that's where united states, that's why nato, that's why other countries have to ban together to prevent that and push back on it. it's a very dangerous time right now. >> you may have heard me read the tweet from ukrainian president zelenskyy put out there today. part of what he rode was by returning crimea, we will restore peace. here's the question. does ukraine have the ability to retake crimea? with that effectively end this war by decimating rushes stronghold there. can it be done? >> i do believe that ukraine should try to take crimea. that is unequivocally ukraine. the sick department recently released a statement saying that. they said crimea is ukraine. that was the final sentence of the statement. that is u.s. policy. that is the history russia invaded crimea nine years ago. unlawfully attended to an exit. i don't think ukrainians are ready yet. that's why i've been pushing

hard with a bipartisan coalition to give ukraine advance fortune russian fighter jets. get them longer range precision rockets and missiles. to increase our training pipeline. we need to help train the ukrainian military much quicker. we have to get those pieces in place. we have to get the things that we have actually dedicated to ukraine. we've to get them into the country as fast as possible. >> you know the president said he's not ready to send those four planes are calling for, f-16s or otherwise, what's your reaction? >> i think at this time, those fighter jets -- there was going to be a ramp up period. not like we just shift f-16s and the next day, they're flying over the skies of ukraine. with my discussions with senior military leadership that's going to take 3 to 4 months to give the ukrainian pilots prepared. and certified to fly these aircraft. that's why i think we start that process right now. we know how to do this. we've had a partnership program with the california national guard, the california guard in

ukraine for many years. california guard pilots know the ukrainian pilots, they know their proficiency's. we could start the training right now and get that moving so that this summer, ready to shoot those. aircraft let me ask you, quickly, something i'm gonna speak with my panel about, coming up -- i want your reaction to speaker mccarthy giving fox news host, tucker carlson, thousands of hours of security footage from the insurrection on january 6th. what is that about? does that for you? >> what it says now is speaker mccarthy feeling like he owes something to tucker carlson. listen, a whole bunch of my colleagues run around capitol hill afraid of tucker carlson. afraid of incurring him rat and have him mobilizing the primary base against them. that is really what is going on here. it's extremely irresponsible. the notion that they would provide that footage to somebody who cherry picks and formation someone who deals

misinformation, misinformation that distorts reality it's extremely irresponsible i think what we will see is tucker carlson doing just that. sherry picking suriname into that. i've mentioned that video footage suiting his own rhetoric in his own propaganda. >> sobering colorado congressman jason crow is good to see you. many. thanks the big divide in the trump white house. team crazy in teen normal. who is on team normal? it might surprise you. plus, she opened up and kept talking and talking and talking. what to make of the media tour of the trump grand jury floor person. boost your team's productivity with samsung's fastest processor yet. switch and save up to $1000 on the new galaxy s23 ultra. now that's epic. on the network america relies on.

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following claims from fox news that house speaker kevin across lee gave took across and show exclusive access to 44,000 hours of capital riot video. the lead investigator on the january 6th elect committee told me one house member screen the video it was passed for

protected, on secure computers. there you saw the video with limited because of security concerns expressed by capitol police. >> before we used any of the footage, any of the capitol police surveillance cam of footage, we had a discussion with capitol police about whether disclosure of that particular clip would jeopardize institutional security. that it's a negotiated issue. i don't know whether the access the speaker has given to fox has any such restriction on such a great use of the footage. >> joining me now, michael schmidt. new york times washington correspondent and msnbc national security contributor. lisa reuben, msnbc legal analyst. good to have you both. michael, first of all, tucker carlson is not personally screening 40 plus hours of footage. it is most likely maine down by interns and producers. how is it possible that fox has

unfettered access to this security video, considering the concerns around that? >> i think we are seeing what it means when someone else is in power and has control of the house. in this instance it means they have the ability and access to this footage. it looks like it was a promise that mccarthy had made to tucker carlson, at some point. look, the far right has been trying anything they can to prove, unproven, january 6th. i was found a kind of unusual. january 6th, to me, to the best of my knowledge was probably the most captured crime in american history given the amount of cell phones and people have today. how things -- the footage, was taken of it. i find that it it is a bit unusual. the idea that you need to see

more footage of january 6th to have a different understanding of it given the enormous amount of it that we have seen. here we are that was a pretty interesting clip that you just issued. basically laying out the length that they went through to try to protect this footage because of the concerted concerns. >> let me ask you our s -- new york times, others are demanding access to this video. what are you hearing from your sources about mccarthy's reaction to these demands? anything? >> i have not heard anything about it. we, our selves, have put out our own videos which are based on all of the videos that have been captured of the story, of what happened and how it all went down. it is remarkable, the way that

the right is willing to take on even the most basic notions of january 6th. how we are still litigating in talking about that today. it certainly shows the tenor between the far-right and mccarthy. how much of his speakership's tied up in that power. it's interesting, we haven't seen a bunch of manifestations of it since he became speaker about this baby the most significant. >> lisa, the justice department acting judge to for mike pence to testify in front of the federal grand jury testifying the capitol riot. let's take a listen together on what pence is saying about that. >> the idea of subpoenaing a former vice president to testify in court against the president with whom they served, i believe it is unprecedented in american history.

as i said last week i believe it is also unconstitutional. >> okay. tim hey fee told me yesterday no one said anything about testifying against trump. this is a doj investigation-ing examining whether law violated. does pence's legal argument, lisa, i carry anyway? is he saying, indirectly, that the only thing he possibly can say or things that could be used against trump? >> it is an interesting towel, alex, isn't it? i agree with mike pence that it is unprecedented but i depart with him when he says it is unconstitutional. i don't think the vice president will ultimately prevail on his speech and debate clause argument. one, there is some limited protection to the vice president when he is acting in a legislative capacity. that is what the speak law protection is about. on the day january 6th, mike pence himself has vetoed -- his role was ceremonial, ministerial.

it did not involve core legislative acts. that is number one. number two, the justice department desperately needs his testimony in a few select areas. that is really in respect to his conversations with the president that day. the president side of -- those conversations were overheard by constellation of people sitting near him, including ivanka. pence took those -- according to his aides that testified to the january 6th committee, he did not let anyone know what have been said, much lasted he let them over here those conversations. i think that in both respects the department of justice is on fairly solid ground and i'm looking forward to seeing when it happens to their motion. >> you wrote about special prosecutor's subpoenas to both of our trump and -- here's what jimmy he said that he learned about them. >> bill stepien, campaign manager for the trump campaign, divided the post election world

into team crazy in team normal. the team normal folks were the ones who were realistic about the lack of election fraud. the fact that the administration was ending. we were told repeatedly by others that ivanka and jared were sort of on that side. >> does that make sense to you, michael? they were on team normal in not team crazy? by the way, how can one really tell the difference? >> i think that they were probably part of the group of people that did not believe the election was stolen. famously at the january 6th hearings we saw the committee play time and time again, ivanka trump's testimony where she talks about the fact that she believed bill barr's assessment that there had been no election fraud. that is what they testified to. trump's world is very vulcanized. there are a lot of different parts of it. certainly jared and ivanka do

not fall into the sydney powell, rudy giuliani part of it. at the same time, they were in the room for a lot of critical things throughout the entire presidency. one of the few aides that were there for the entire time. they were in the room for different, potentially key, moments. they are at the heart of the january 6th investigation. it is also important to understand that one of the reasons that jack smith needs to talk to them is to know whether -- to know their full count. if they were to ever go to trial, whatever jared and ivanka knew would likely come out. if you are jacks mitt you want to know whether there was something that they would testify to that could potentially undermine your case. you know that information is, you can assess the. you can determine whether if you went to trial and if this came out, as it likely would,

what that would mean to the prosecution. >> thank you for reading my mind i was gonna ask you a jack smith really want them. let's move on with you, lisa. talk about emily chorus. the floor person on the attempt to overthrow georgia results. trump's today saying that her -- could impact a potential trial. >> we have lost 100 and confidence in this process. we feel that this process has been compromised. this 30-year-old floor person, to, especially provided us a lens. made us aware that every suspicion we had asked to this questionable process was, in fact, a reality. >> do you think that she has said, publicly, so far that could have a negative impact on potential indictments? >> i don't. if emily corps was my daughter, for example, i would tell her to stop talking now. no less than an authority of the fulton county superior

clouds, robert make bernie, he gave an interview to the atlanta journal-constitution in which he said, essentially, emily course did not step over that line. the line he drew for the grand jurors was, don't talk about deliberations. by deliberations he meant the things you discussed solely with each other when anyone is outside of the room. district attorney now in the room court representatives on in the room. those are the things you have to protect. you can talk about other things, including your final report. in that respect while emily corps's comments were ill-advised they are not detrimental to the ultimate investigation or whatever charges that are potentially coming. >> mike where do you, do you agree with lisa? >> just looking at the public facing aspect of this, if you are the prosecutor in atlanta and you are going to be taking this extraordinary action of charging a former president as -- potentially, it looks like we

are on the path towards that. there is the entire matter will be made in the court where the legal menace of the entire thing will be played out. at the same time, when you are making such a big decision there is a public aspect to it you basically have to convince your constituents that there is good reason for why he have taken a decision that has never been taken before in american history. you have to be able to explain to the public why are you are taking this unprecedented step. that is different than the average prosecution. you need to do that in this case, then i am sure that if you are the prosecutor you do not want the first major interaction between urine vest yay shunned in the public to be well played out in the last week. there is no way that if you are running this investigation, whether this helps the legal in this or hurts whatever the legal questions may be, that

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watch me! >> you have some new comments this weekend from president biden, as well as the first lady, essentially confirming a 2024 reelection run. this, and some reports say democrats are quietly reporting -- not for him to run. a awkwardly freeze across the porting with some potential presidential esperanza and scores of major donors are strategizing and developing a plan b while being publicly supportive of the 80-year-old president. joining me now is robert gives, msnbc political analyst and former white house press secretary. good to see you, my friend. let's get into this one! president biden's approval rating in this new poll we're looking at is that 46%. up 3% since last month. from everything you know and i've heard -- he is running, ray? if he is why stretch now and allow for this kind of political parlor game we are playing? >> yeah i do think that he is

going to run i think he has been pretty clear in his signals he intends to run i think the first lady was pretty clear about this remember that if he says he is running in an interview with david muir it requires him to start filing paperwork raising money, doing the thing that the campaign does i don't blame him out on think anyone can blame him for putting this off from february march into the beginning of april it still allows him to assemble what he needs to do to run a campaign into fund and to do it a little bit on his timetable as we get away from things like the state of the union the anniversary round of the war in ukraine so. here's what we're gonna do. we're gonna play a little bit of a parlor game as i introduced this. this political article is quite interesting. >> if he does not run, politico says it would amount to a political earthquake. that is how you see in terms of

a replacement democratic candidate? >> it's interesting, i read the political article as i think many people did. i could not really find a lot in there. frankly, that would lead me to believe he wasn't going to run other than the fact that he hasn't filed the paperwork that he is definitively going to run. look, oh but nomination would be quite a race. i don't know if he would be a political earthquake but it would certainly reset a lot of things. i think what is uniquely different, a couple of things i think are important. looking at president biden -- you look at his approval rating. i looked at it real clear politics average this morning. his disapproval was at its lowest point since a week before christmas in 2021. his approval rating is at its highest point since october of 2021. i think he has been on a good trajectory. if he were not to run, i do think democrats have a remarkably strong branch. we saw that in 2022.

whether it's gretchen whitmer who won handily in a swing state like michigan. raphael warnock, who has won for us the wide races in places like georgia. or, a host of others. kamala harris would certainly be a favorite to be the nominee, as well. i think that democrats are well positioned in the very very and likely event that biden doesn't run. i fully expect that president biden will seek reelection. >> pretty much tells me that you were an anonymous source right for this political article? is that right, my friend? let's get to the end of the game, the parlor game. the washington post ranking of ten potential democratic candidates leading the pack. of course, we have the president. followed by transportation secretary pete buttigieg and vice president kamala harris. pete buttigieg, in this particular ranking, comes in higher than the vice president. what is your take on that? >> look, this is like throwing darts and a board, right?

i don't know that i would necessarily agree with every one of the different numbers here. if you're somebody like pete buttigieg you ran a very successful campaign in 2020 with a pretty good way -- you won some states. others you did well. i think that gives him the opportunity and the likelihood that he might run again in the future again if biden weren't to run, i think kamala harris starts day one as the favorite, largely because of the position that she holds. >> give me a sense of how strong a democratic bench we have on a gubernatorial level? jared polis, gavin newsom, gretchen whitmer, josh perot, jamie pritzker look at that list i think you have an strong list that the governor level.

i'm looking there jared whitmer and jared polis. they are winning in states that are in have been traditionally swing states. michigan is a state we were up late watching in 2020. we were update watching in 2016. if democrats have nominees that can already do well in those states, i think that compares remarkably favorable to republicans like nikki haley who is from a very decidedly republican state. may not have the experience of running in the swing state. >> come see me again very soon my friend. coming up next, why some hospitals are not following a new law aimed at helping patients.

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the prices and procedures for patients no cost in advance. and we see news marissa pars and washington with more on this. i know, marissa, some people are shocked by the skyrocketing medical bills. >> alex, the interesting thing here is we do know that there are a number of hospitals across the country that still are not posting their prices. here is where things get interesting, advocacy group say the number of noncompliant hospitals is significantly higher than what the government is reporting. >> the paying medical procedures has haunted jeff king in kansas for years. >> i went back for my follow-up. eison, well your medical bill about put me into a fib again. >> it is his right to know how much a procedure cost in advance. and has been since january of 2021 when federal try sprints to mc became federal law. >> it is so incredibly important. >> educator books ashore, the administrator for medicaid services also overseas hospital transparency in a report released last week, cnn's

instead of the 600 hospital sampled, 70% were in full compliance. up from the 27% a year before. patient advocacy groups are dissatisfied. >> it is not happening fast enough. >> they are challenging cms is survey results. patients rights advocate out or release their own study after day studying 2000 hospitals within the nation's largest hospital systems. their findings? only 25% were in for compliance. patient advocate cynthia fisher shows us what patients should see only complying hospitals website. >> showing all of the code, all of the -- >> but she found on many instead. instead the pricing they put an a in the field. we took it to cms. what this hospital be considered compliant? >> yes. and i, according to our rules means we don't do the procedure. >> which would mean that if

they provide these procedures, they should be telling us how much it costs. >> in the two years since the laws took effect cms has only issued two fines given as and we see was pressing the hms secretary last summer brooks lecherous as she has given 500 warning letters to hospitals. now the maximum fines have been increased from 100,000 $2 million. we ask, what is the biggest holdup? cms blames the pandemic. >> they haven't had the staff to really focus on some of the i.t. system changes that need to happen the american hospital association, which represents american networks in the hospital says health systems remain, quote, deeply committed to spite severe strain on the hospital workforce over the past three years. >> who is suffering the most? >> it's the american people -- >> if you're watching and you don't see the prices listed on the hospital website you can complain on the cms website.

you can also write a letter to the ceo. go to patient right advocate dot org for a list of africans you can take. alex, the number one thing to remember here is it is your right to fight them. >> excellent advocacy work on your behalf. 500 warning letters? that number i believe. thank you very much for that. that's gonna do it for me on this edition on -- aussie next out a day next. my friend, he has a movie and continues our probe bridge. switch and save up to $1000 on the new galaxy s23 ultra. now that's epic. on the network america relies on. >> woman: why did we choose safelite? >> vo: driving around is how we get our baby to sleep, so when our windshield cracked, we trusted the experts. they focus on our safety... so we can focus on this little guy. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪

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