are there security concerns with the release of these tapes in the first place? i will ask congresswoman zoloft that very question, plus her thoughts on the doj's pressure campaign on former vice president, mike pence. also, the biden administration is responding to reports that china is weighing to provide lethal -- national security visor, jake sullivan, made the rounds on the morning shows. here's what he had to say. >> their weapons would, in fact, to be used for the slaughter of people in ukraine. i think it would be ill-advised for china to move forward. >> you know the old saying, a picture is worth 1000 words? in this case, it is a lot more. i'm gonna speak with a new york times photojournalist about the raw and unfiltered picture, pictures i should say, that she has taken in ukraine. why it tells a story that brings the reader closer to war than anything else. nearly six months after the death of mahsa amini, the women

of iran are not backing down their efforts to gain rights and dignity that they've long deserved. coming up, i will speak to two activists about the ongoing defiance still being seen to this day by millions of iranian women. later on this hour, failing to comply. why so many hospitals around the country are not following a new federal law forcing companies to be transparent about charges that patients are receiving. we begin this hour with the shocking release of sensitive footage from january 6th to fox news host, tucker carlson. top democrats are speaking out about just how dangerous it is. here is congresswoman, madeleine dean, earlier on msnbc. >> it is revealing of where the capitol police are in different staging. what was going on. it would give access to bad actors to try to do it again. it is extraordinarily irresponsible how irresponsible of the speaker of the house to

live up some campaign promise to the fall right, and tucker carlson, to release the tapes. >> she is not the only one speaking out. former members of the january six house committee are raising alarms, as well. including my next guest congresswoman zoloft from california congresswoman as always it is a pleasure to talk to you. we know this was a negotiation that the house speaker had with, specifically, matt gates. it was a asked that mankato add. releasing these 40,000 hours of tape. your reaction to this was it's really roadmap to people who might want to attack the capitol again. it would be of huge assistance to them. how worried are you now that these tapes are in the hands of tucker carlson of fox news? that they have been released? >> i have a concern, as i mentioned earlier. it i things in the tape that we did not release at the request

of the capitol police because it would endanger the security of the capital. if carlson has been giving, and as he described, unfettered access. he is prepared to use the material without regard to the security issues that would be a problem. obviously january 6th were trump supporters tried to overturn the government. we had threat from international terrorism, as well. i think i.s.i.s. would love to know where the cameras are located. where the gaps are. >> nbc, msnbc, our network has also requested these tapes now the fox news hasn't. considering these can security concerns you along with so many of your colleagues have, do you think that they should be released to other networks beyond fox news? >> well, i can understand why other networks are asking.

it was obviously unfair that -- the speaker would give access only to one, a legit, news agency. on the other hand the security issues remain. it's not as if the january six committee withheld important elements of the video. we did not, however, released a video of the speakers lobby as the mob tried to break in because security for the officers, also members, including me, were being evacuated at the other end of the hallway. not a very big room. but, what we deliver it to the american people is a fair representation of what happened. i think that a lot of us believe that carlson will selectively edited to try to

present a false narrative. he has been delivering a false negative about january 6th throughout. providing sensitive material to others would not solve that problem. >> it seems like the negotiations that speaker mccarthy had with members of the right wing of his party are beginning to trickle out. have you had conversations? do you know what is in the pipeline when it comes to what he has said he would do for the marjory taylor greene and matt gates then -- in order to secure the votes that he needed to become speaker? >> we do not know what he promised his right-wing. matt gates has not told me. i do have a concern if this is an example of the kinds of promises he made that could endanger the security of the

united states. there is a concern. we honestly don't know -- i was there for the 15 votes seems like an endless loop. towards the end he seemed desperate to do anything. to promise to get the votes. who knows what he promised? >> let's talk about the special counsel investigation? but specifically about the subpoenas delivered to the former vice president of the united states. he is fighting. so far jacks mitt has compelled a judge -- asked the judge to step in and compel the former vice president to testify. also subpoenaing ivanka trump as well was her husband, jared kushner. your committee heard from both ivanka and jared. we have not heard from the former vice president because he does not offer testimony before the january six committee. how important is it ridiculous to hear from the former vice president of the united states? what would you like to learn

from him if you could share? >> i think it is important? his assertion that he has protection under the speech or debate clause is pretty weird. the constitution does provide that the vice president serves as the president of the senate. of course the 12th amendment has the president of the senate opening the office of the show than be counted. even if you assume serving as president of the senate somehow makes him a legislative branch officer, which i think is quite a stretch, opening the avalos and reading the results is not a legislative act. this ploy is not going to work in my judgment. he will testify. i would like to know some of the things that we were unable to get. there was a discussion between him and then president on the morning of the sixth.

he left the room, the other people who were there do not know what was said by the president. he had conversations with mr. eastman, who took the fifth amendment all day. he wouldn't testify to us. there was a lot of information that only the vice president could provide. i think that he ought to do the right thing just going and testify. not go through this crazy charade of trying to pretend he's a member of the senate. >> congresswoman, i want you to weigh in on former mayor sam la carla who told you he may run for your seat. here is what you had to say about it. ricardo said he was assessing his options. he wants to be in congress. i told him it's a free country he can run if he wants. i plan to run, i don't usually run to lose. are you little worried? >> no, i'm not worried. every other year we have an election. it is a rehire decision on the

part of the voters. i take nothing for granted. i intend to reach out to voters i'm proud of the things i've done, especially my service on the january 6th committee and my defense of the constitution. i am hopeful that the voters of this district will recognize that. >> congresswoman zou lofgren we thank you for joining us this afternoon. coming up i will speak with matthew dowd along with the diplomatic side of ukraine and zelenskyy's plan to meet with china's president in a potential peace deal. a look back at the most defining moments of the war from the lens of a new york times photojournalist. an update on the defiant movement in iran that exploded in response in the death of mahsa amini. to iranian activists on the front lines and why protests a flared up once again. we'll be right back. und of better breathing. fasenra is an add-on treatment for asthma driven by eosinophils.

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officials saying that if this happens, if this lethal aid given to russia it would be a mistake take a listen. >> i don't think that it is in china's interest to do this. i think it would alienate them from a number of countries in the world, including our european allies. it will put them four square into the center of responsibility for the kinds of war crimes and a bombardment of civilians in the atrocities that russia is committing in ukraine. their fate would essentially be used for the slaughter people in ukraine. i think it would be ill-advised for china to move forward. of course it is a decision beijing's gonna have to meet for itself. >> and adviser to the ukrainian military telling me there could also be a potential game-changer in terms of the current battlefield dynamics. right now both the ukrainian military in russian forces are running out of ammunition

according to this advisor the ukrainians are seeing this as an opportunity if they get ammunition and weapons from the west to the front lines they see an opportunity on the battlefield to really push forward. a senior adviser to president zelenskyy telling me that he believes there could be a turning point in this conflict as a result if they get the weapons by the end of the spring. suddenly a another player entering the fray providing russia with badly needed lethal aid. you can see how that could be concerning to all parties involved. >> another player in addition to the legal aid that iran whaling unless you months. aaron mclaughlin we thank you as always. we want to bring in former u.s. ambassador to ukraine, bill taylor. vice president for russia and the u.s. -- always great to talk to you about this stuff. let's talk china if we can for a moment. we heard from jake sullivan

that it was ill-advised which to be moving forward. of course it's up to beijing to make their own decisions. it only benefits china if russia wins in this war which is ironic considering the peace plan they put for this past friday. trying to broker peace. what do you make of it how worried are you that they could possibly be providing lethal aid in the near future? if they are not doing it already? >> it would be a mistake for the chinese to do that. china has been walking a very fine line -- the chinese have not provided the russians with weapons up until now i'm sure the russians have asked for this weapon. this ammunition that they're thinking about doing. i'm sure the russians have asked the chinese to help them va the sanctions. so far the chinese have said no. the chinese have not even supported the russians in the

u.n.. the security council, the general assembly the chinese abstained. they don't support the russians. the chinese have been at some pains to avoid being associated with this war. i understand the chinese are irritated with the russians -- excuse me. not telling them that they the russians were about to invade when president putin visited beijing just before the war he apparently did not tell president xi that he was about to move aid. chinese are irritated with that. the chinese were not pleased with the russian invasion of ukraine. you mentioned the piece plan. the first point of the peace plan's sovereignty of nations and territorial integrity. i think the chinese are in a difficult position now. >> it's interesting because it

would, as i said, only benefited china if the ukraine was able to pull for. especially when it comes to taiwan even with what they are saying when it comes to sovereignty. by the way take underwater if you want to this is live television a drink all the time. water all the time of speaking. it's important to do that. >> thank you. as we talk about this 12 point peace plan presidents on themes of said that he wants to meet with xi. i compare this to what happened in syria in a russia was a quote unquote piece broker at that time russia had the ear of acid along with being relationships with the united states. what do you make of the case being made? that zelenskyy would meet with

president xi? >> president zelenskyy is proving to be a very skilled diplomat. president zelenskyy does not want the chinese to be supporting the russians. president zelenskyy is taking advantage of this proposal. at least part of this proposal that the chinese have put forward that sound interesting to presidents a lynskey. i mentioned that president zelenskyy has pointed out that the chinese in their peace proposal supported rhetorical integrity and sovereignty of all nations including ukraine the russians have clearly violated the territorial integrity and sovereignty of ukraine president zelenskyy has offered to sit down with president xi and have a conversation to see where it can go. president zelenskyy would like to have this conversation so he can build the relationship with president xi.

yasmin, this is interesting the chinese where the single largest investors in ukraine before the war. there is a relationship there. president zelenskyy, i think, is clever and wise to try to develop it. >> that is a really good point. looking at occupation, right? a month after this war began a believe it was 27% where russia held and ukraine. now it is down to 18%. what do you make of this? is there a possibility that if china were not to provide lethal aid that the russian army were to continue to get lethal aid from iran as they have been the past few months that ukraine could subsequently take back some of this occupied territory? >> you have been, you're exactly right. aaron made that point. the ukrainians are indeed preparing to take back even more. that graphic just showed the ukrainians have taken back a

lot of territory. the russians initially took at the beginning of this war when they surprise the whole world with this invasion. the ukrainians have pushed them back out. the ukrainians are convinced that can push the russians all the way out of the country. that is all they want,. yasmin in terms of goals, winning, ukrainians know what winning is. it is the ukrainian -- they have been successful in doing a lot of that, as your graphic just showed. they are preparing an offensive that will probably break through. the ukrainians hope it will break through the russian lines and damaged russian morale. make the russians fall back but. they will take back that 18%. >> it's a way so astonishing to me how underestimated the ukrainian military was at the start of this war. how overestimated the russian

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convention, throwing her head to the ground and storming offstage. in a dramatic act of defiance. what that takes? the courage that takes. unbelievable. having known the iranian government for quite some time myself as a reporter on the ground. kinship ventures founder and kids been green founder. what an incredible name, in aspen. i have to say. moshe let me start with you on this one, 40 days after the execution of two iranian protesters, we have seen the resurgence of many protests in the ron. in fact, they have not really stopped. they have waxed and waned to a certain extent. but really it is continuing, what do you make of what is happening on the ground in iran right now? >> thank you for having us.

iran is truly now being seen for the failed state, failed economic state, failed health care, failed education, failed police day, fail country that it is for its people. it is very clear that the iranian people want a secular democracy. it is very clear that they want referendums. they are not going to back down. the diaspora all of the world, the iranian diaspora is not putting down and unstable other side. >> owner retrieve some quotes from the new york times from women on the ground in the wrong. this sort of post mass amini death era. these protests that are ongoing and how life has really changed for women saying this. whether the government likes to admit it or not the era of the forest hijab is over. another 25-year-old was quoted as saying this. is this what it feels like to

feel the cool fall breeze blow through your hair? for 25 years i was denied this. it is emotional to hear something as simple as that, right? is there going back to what iran was at this time last year? the remarkable thing about this revolution is that it is when land and women centered. hey feminist revolution is unique. women are paying the price for that every day. they are being tortured, they are being raped in custody they are being killed by other own government because they want the fundamental human right of forming their own opinion. expressing themselves freely. they have inspired a movement. they have inspired the diaspora. i would add though that there is a second remarkable thing

about this revolution, which is the role of the internet. 90% of the iranian population is online. they are incredibly texas abby. they are also confronted by equally check savvy government. both sides know that the internet is the oxygen of this movement. >> it is incredible to see. even when it seemed that the iranian government were shutting things down we still saw a trickle of videos coming out of ron from the midst of when the protests were at their peak. it really showed the world what was happening. having the iranian government -- success ensuring it down, no one would've known what was happening outside the borders of iran. because of that, so much of the support that the iranian people had gotten -- they've been able to maintain these protests. >> well, i think that is part of what has brought us

together. working with yasmin, through our work with i d.c., and has really started to double down on what the diaspora can do in terms of connectivity as a fundamental human right. exploring all options, whether that is vpn's, satellites. yasmin is much much further down the road. this is specifically her expertise. something that we are quite passionate about. we are not going to back down. in fact, we are just beginning. >> yasmin, how do you keep the momentum up? you bring up a really good point, also. before you get into it, which is, we don't talk about this often -- this is the first historically female-led revolution ever. we don't mention that often. >> ray. i think that significance, not just for the middle east, and vis-à-vis, russia, but there is a geopolitical significance to the revelations exceeding. there is also a social justice

significance which i think would have ramifications for the whole world. interesting lee, the government is blocking the tools that women are using to bridge the outside world. mowers mentioned vpns idana how many of your viewers here are familiar with that term, virtual private network. every single iranian who uses the internet uses a vpn. effectively to tunnel out of the domestic censorship regime and through to the global internet where they can access social media sites mobile messaging apps those things are not available by dictate of the iranian government they do not want people to share their news to organize or mobilize to get the word out every video we have seen from the violence and protest the videos you show on your show they are all because

someone on the ground in iran is using a tool to swart digital authoritarianism from that government that and the call to action. i personally and the team a jigsaw working every day to build tools to help people on the ground. and has never mattered more. it shows the decay haitian that they have for this movement. i say this over and over again how much the iranian people put their lives in peril when they are posting when they are sending messages when they are sending videos when a woman walks off the stage as she did in that video that i showed it is emotional to see as myself as a running woman and for both of you as well i'm sure most last question to you and i happen speaking for quite some time down to this and how long

does this go on? >> we have to remember that the end of apartheid took about 800 days. the are still early days. we are gaining momentum. i think the most important thing right now as the biden administration needs to and all negotiations on this nuclear deal. we saw how we left the women of academics and it is imperative that we not leave the women of iran in the same predicament. there is a way to write this wrong. i think everyone is absolutely disgusted with the state that we have left women in afghanistan to women of iran are leading this revelation. a feminist revolution something we can all learn from. men and women. nonbinary, across every spectrum of identity. this -- incredibly inspiring and leading us to a better society as a whole. and dealing with the islamic

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that i would recommend. welcome back, everybody. the fog continues after house bigger kevin mccarthy's decision to give fox news tucker carlson thousands of hours of security footage from january six. want to bring in now to talk more about this msnbc political analyst, matthew down. matthew as always great to talk to you. i spoke to congresswoman zoloft of the top of the so asking her opinion on what was handed over to took across than. we know mccarthy's ultimate objective as to why he would hand this over to carlson, right? he was being lambasted by tucker cross in on fox news nightly. all that being said she feels as if it's a security risk. what is your reaction to what has taken place there? >> well, as you said, kevin mccarthy's motivation we know -- i think we also know tucker crossings motivation in this

which is to try to find somewhere in the footage something he can use to say january 6th wasn't as bad as what democrats are saying or what all of our eyes said they were. i think it is outrageous that this happened. that mccarthy handed over to fox news to be used for their nefarious purposes. whether or not it is a security risk i don't know. there is evidence that this will show where the cameras are. how footage is done. all that stuff someone in the future if they want to do this again would be able to get around it it definitely shows a kevin mccarthy has no interest in the broader good of the american public. >> i don't understand how someone could crossed what took house and put out there. if he ends up putting out any of this footage especially considering what we learned from the dominion lawsuit with regard to the 2020 election. behind the scenes he was saying these people are crazy didn't believe what they were saying.

he was airing them on his own show. propping up the big lie. >> tucker carlson, as you know has no, interest in the truth. he only has an interest in ratings. whatever if telling the truth to an audience will dissipate his ratings, he won't tell the truth. if lying helps them with his audience -- my fear is as a receptivity for conspiracy theories and false because among a small group of the american public that watch is tucker across than. i think that he uses it to build up the bit of his audience. that gives him whatever he wants. higher ratings in i guess greater income. >> exactly what the former president does -- let's move on. we now have to talk about across the much more. let's talk about the 2024 presidential race. it looks like tim scott of south carolina is gonna be the only signing senator who will

be running for president. the serious potential candidates that might be jumping in here. >> it tells me two things i think in this. one the former ability of donald trump -- >> even though i think he is more vulnerable than he has been for five years. it still shows his strength within the party. still supported -- he has a favor ability writing an 80% of the public. it also shows the strength of desantis in this. i think the field is going to ebb and flow until we see the weaknesses of the characters -- donald trump and desantis. i remember people like rick perry looked really good on paper. scott walker the former governor of wisconsin looked really good on paper. i think that we don't know the signs of the field until we know how both of those candidates are going to do in the coming months -- i can see this expanding when

they both showed weakness ahead. >> matthew dowd as a way that was a predator. it has been two years since federal law put into place requiring hospitals nationwide to post the prices of medical procedures. patients knew how much it would cost them for treatment in advance. haitian advocates say many hospitals are not posting the prices. customers are still being surprised by these massive bills. nbc news bill separ has more. bill separ ha the pressure for paying for medical procedures has haunted checking in kansas for years. >> i went back for my follow-up appointment i said, how you doing? while the medical bill just about putting into a fit again. >> it is his right to know how much a medical bill will cost in advance. it has been since january, 2021. federal price parents fancy became federal law. >> it is so incredibly important. >> she keita books ashore, and ministry to for medicare and medicaid services also overseas

hospital transparency. in a report released last week to see my sense of the 600 hospitals they sampled 70% were in full compliance up from the 27% from the year before. patient advocacy groups are dissatisfied. >> it is not happening side they are challenging cms and their survey results. >> patient right advocate dot org released their own results weeks ago. analyzing the websites of 2000 hospitals within the nation's largest hospital systems. they are finding? only 25% were full compliance. patient advocate cynthia fisher shows us what a patient should see on a compliant hospitals website. >> showing all of the codes -- and she showed us what she found on many instead. >> instead of prices, you have any aids in the field. >> we took it to cms. >> what this hospital be considered compliant? >> yes. and a, according to our rules, means that we don't do the procedural.

>> which would mean if they provide these procedures -- >> they should be telling us how much it costs. >> in the two years since law took effect, cms has only issued two fines. given as nbc was pressing the secretary last year. >> berkeley sure says they have given 500 warnings to hospitals. and now the maximum fines have been increased from 100,000 to $2 million. we ask, what is the biggest holdup? cms blames the pandemic. >> i haven't always have the staff to focus on some of the i.t. system changes that need to happen. >> the american hospital association, which represents health care networks in hospital says that -- quote, deeply committed despite considerable strains in the hospital workforce for the past two years. >> who is hurting the most? >> it's the american people. >> in washington, rose parra. nbc news. interesting report.

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photographs of the conflict. sometimes on the front lines. warning, some of the images we are about to show you may be disturbing. lindsay addario is joining me now. lindsey, thank you so much for joining us. for sharing these images with us for the year. these images of the conflict. really putting yourself in the line of fire to get these images. after a year which you spent in ukraine how difficult is it to be in the middle of conflict? >> i guess the difficulty lies in the fact that this is still going on. it is a year later. civilians are still being targeted residences are still being hit by missile strikes artillery i was there for five weeks. january, february. you know, i'm seeing the same scenes i saw a year ago. we hear there has been a

strike. we will rush over there, there is a mother lying over the body of her son weeping! i mean, how many times can we see these scenes? >> i want to show folks this one image at a train station in kyiv. it and is really emotional to see. you can see the difficulty is the ukrainians are facing at that time as they were fleeing, i sima capital city there what was going on? what was the emotion behind this photo? >> this is in the very, very, early stages of the war. people realize the war had started. they were trying to do anything to get out of the country. at least to flee west. i remember i went to the train station that morning. the scenes were, sort of, apocalyptic. i mean, there were hundreds of people running across the train tracks. dragging their children,

dragging the out early, just trying to get on any train heading west. this particular train was the next one. people were cramming and shoving themselves into the train. women and children were given first priority. i remember in the middle of shooting the scene just stopped and started crying. i wasn't inconsolable. i just kept picturing what it would be like if i had to do this with my own children, you know? it was so humiliating. iti want to show this maternity hospital thought of that you took. you describe the woman giving birth in a moldy basement. how you have your own children. you have experienced this yourself. what was it like seeing this? what these women were experiencing, what were they telling you? >> i have documented maternal health and maternal mortality around the world for over a decade. of uncovering the world for two

decades. seeing the combination of the two was really heartbreaking. this is the time, again, in the early days of the war. there were sirens constantly. every time there was a siren, all of the pregnant and lactating women have to go down into the basement shelter. the walls, as you can see, are totally moldy. authorities are doing what they could. hospital officials ridden with they could just keep people safe. obviously, that is the priority. this woman had just given birth, i think, today before to date for. we were on a press tour. all of these places are off limits. there are targets, of course, russian forces. hospitals, metro stations, we needed to be escorted in. remember we walk down there. there was one woman in labor. another woman who had just delivered -- just an extraordinary scene! >> i want to show folks this last photo before we let you go. this apartment building in

ukraine that was completely demolished. just horrific to see. you see someone standing on what looks to be the second floor of this apartment building that had been bombed out. what was it like to see this up close? do you know how many people lost their lives after this apartment building was hit? >> this was, actually, the second day of the war. when the war started i wasn't serotonin skin eastern ukraine. i drove through the night. got to kyiv and this had happen the day before the world started. this was a prelude of things to come. the entire face of the building was sheared off. peoples lives were blown open. this woman was out there surveying the scene. this was hours after it happened. i think it's important to know that very few people have been spared in this war over the

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