because she knows if i am getting indicted. she is the head juror, can you believe that? they elected her. they will elect anyone. i started that. >> that wraps it up for me. i am -- back on the chair next saturday and sunday at 2 pm eastern. simone starts right now. w. 30s everyone, you are watching symone. we are keeping an eye on aisle east palestine, ohio -- local officials are said to give another live news conference on that casket train derailment last month. questions remain about who determined the water was safer residents but was it safe, or was it a company contracted by norfolk southern? we will dig into that just in a moment. plus, the national transportation safety board chair is here with the latest on the investigation. we are going to ask her about preventing future disasters in about her frustration with the

politics and the misinformation surrounding this derailment. we will also unpack the warning the u.s. is sending to china. they are taking a big risk if they provide lead little assistance to russia in its war on ukraine. i am simone sanders thompson, and i have something to say. we are following new developments in that investigation of that ohio train derailment. federal and local officials are expecting a live news conference any minute now and it will be happening in east palestine. we will be monitoring that and we will bring any news during this hour. now, residents, they are rightfully hoping to get more answers about the safety of their homes. the environmental protective agency says they have conducted nearly 600 home screenings for

reentry. but serious questions about the safety of the water is starting to bubble up. we do not know what testing had taken place for residents of east palestine. we are told their water was okay to drink. bbc news has been trying to find out if that declaration was made solely based on samples analyzed by a north folk southern contractor. listen to this exchange between ohio's epa director and our nbc news colleague jesse kirsch esterdy. >> there was a weight of evidence that the municipal water was safe, it is not in the path of the contamination from the -- >> the governor publicly said the municipal drinking water safe, at that point did your department have anything back other than the norfolk southern funded data? >> i apologize, i don't know the exact timeline about when we got the counties preliminary data as well. >> okay.

i clearly have questions. now, i think most -- investigations are frankly needed. the house has actually started one. but it is looking into transportation secretary pete buttigieg and they wrote a letter to the secretary requesting documents and alleging a slow pace in resolving the issue. they also said that the department of transportation's national transportation safety board, etf speed, has stopped short of cementing a cause. okay. -- the etfs be, it did issue a preliminary report and we will get into that in a minute. -- transportation secretary when they don't even know the difference between the transportation department and the ntsb. here is a refresher for the oversight committee. the department of transportation or d.o.t., is the -- cabinet level department. the ntsb? this is a separate, independent federal agency charged by congress. with investigating

transportation accidents. that is what the ntsb started doing right after the derailment. >> now, i'm happy to be joined by the chair of the national transportation safety board, jennifer homendy. now chair, thank you for being here today. before we get into the derailment investigation, what do you make of the house oversight committee letter to secretary buttigieg for confusion about the role of the ntsb? >> well, it certainly was interesting. we are not part of the department of transportation, we are an independent agency, charged by congress with investigating major disasters. i do think it might be a great opportunity to have them over to the ntsb and walk through our labs and learn all about us and learn about our mission. >> congressman -- is watching this and i hope he takes you up on that off the. let's talk about the report. the initial findings point to,

what you are saying, isn't overheated, real bearing as the cause of the derailment. but that is not the cemented, you are not saying that we know for sure that is what caused it, so how close are we to finding the actual cause? t is what caused the derailment. but -- >> you are sure about that? >> yes. but will lead to the overheated real bearing, we'll bearing, and why it wasn't detected earlier and what could have been done to detected earlier, what maintenance practices, what inspection practices, does no forks other carry out, we have a lot of questions. we have to figure out how we got there. the what is often easier to figure out, after any sort of tragedy, it is how we got to that point where such a tragedy occurred. and what we need to do to make sure it is prevented in the future. so in terms of how we got to the point -- east palestine, just a final report is not expected for

another year, given the increased media tension here, just the public -- steep speed up the timeline? >> yeah, i definitely appreciate that question but i can't, won't sacrifice the accuracy and quality of our investigation. the residents of east palestine count on that. we have to be absolutely accurate in what we are finding. however, we cannot, at anytime issue urgent safety recommendations during the investigation, to address safety issues, in addition, we work with partners like the u.s. -- work with -- and others who will have access to the facts of our investigation, and we expect them to take immediate action. >> so, do you have any urgent recommendations given that your initial report, now that you are deliberating about putting forth? >> yeah. great question. we just finished our on scene portion of the investigation.

with evaluation of the tang cars and the damage to those tank cars so now we will continue through our fact-finding phase and what it's that fact finding phase is completed we will learn -- analysis. during the time we will also have our investigative field hearing in east palestine. >> when is that? >> that will be around may. >> okay. we will be watching that. you've been warning about the dangers of misinformation, specifically here, saying quote, anyone speculating about what happened, didn't -- happen or should've happened is misleading suffering community. are you still seeing lot of misinformation -- >> i am. it is so dangerous to have that misleading information because, then residents count on that information. and also, during our investigation, when we are looking at how to prevent this from reoccurring, we will issue urgent safety recommendations and final recommendations but if people are focused on the

wrong solutions, we won't be able to provide this. >> like politics. you talked a lot about the politics of the situation, has the politics of this hundred mastication at all? >> it hasn't hindered our next occasion, but you know, i don't understand the politics around it. there are over 1000 derailments elm annually. we have never seen this kind of political attention to something like this. and maybe, you know, maybe we need to raise future investigations more in the media, so people understand what we are doing, and understand the tragedies that people are facing annually. but, i've never seen this kind of attention. >> do you have a message to the members of congress? democrats and republicans. >> yeah. i would say, this is coming from someone who worked on the hill for over 14 years, come together. and address real safety but specifically this community, address their needs. right now.

and in the coming months, and focus on what would prevent it from reoccurring, at least for our portion of the investigation. i do know epa has another mission, cdc has another mission -- >> there are real questions about the water. >> that's right. come together though, prevent this from occurring. >> all right. ntsb chair jennifer hahn thank you for coming. >> thank you for having me. >> appreciate you. -- what the new u.s. national security advisor saying about what would happen if china provides lethal aid to russia and how u.s. allies are viewing the next phase of the war in ukraine. the french government official joins me on set to discuss. but first, you all know who is here. my bestie, richard louis with -- hey richard. >> hi simone. a very good sunday to all. a lot of weather to talk about today. the severe weather system that hit california saturday is now putting another 11 million americans at risk today from texas to missouri, that storm is expected to hit oklahoma

harnessed with wind gusts of up to 110 miles per hour, hail and tornadoes as well this afternoon. this as parts of california still remain -- through wednesday, the sierra nevadans for instance is under a blizzard warning. the death toll from the -- shipwreck and italy is now up to 59. it is. expected to continue to climb as the search and rescue operation continues, -- the ship had left turkey five days before the wreck and may have been carrying as many as 200 passengers. that and new york city for you, uber and lyft drivers are in a 12 hour strike today at the airport where they are not resuming service until midnight tonight. the drivers are demanding a pay increase to account for inflation and rising operating costs. -- minimum wage set for this wednesday. all right, more simone right after this break. after this break s. ♪tell me why!♪ because it stinks. ♪have you tried♪ ♪new downy rinse and refresh?♪ it helps remove odors 3x better than detergent alone it worked guys!

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now foreign policy experts tells nbc news artillery ammunition availability for ukraine and russia is arguably the single most important variable that could influence the course of the war. this morning on meet the press, national security adviser jake sullivan explained why this would be a really bad move for china. >> i think it would alienate them from a number of countries in the world, including their european allies and it would put them four square into the center of responsibility for the kinds of war crimes and bombardments of civilians and atrocities that the russians are committing in ukraine. >> no, if president xi is considering this, it does not line up with the -- on the anniversary of the invasion. that plan called for peace talks, a gradual de-escalation and protection of nuclear civilities -- that it was that plan that lead ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy to say he wants to

meet with president xi. for instance, president emmanuel macron has announced that he plans to go to beijing in april to try to get the country to help in the war. for more on that i am joined now by gabriel atoll, the french minister of public action and accounts. mr. minister, thank you so much for being with us on set today. i want to start with this news about china, and does this news about considering weapons supplying russia with lethal weapons, will that affect president macron's plans to visit in april? >> what we need to do is engage china in the de-escalation process. and how do we do that? we must talk to them firmly, heads on, on every topic. and that is what we did a few days ago during the g20 summit and we convinced trying to sign a joint statement with us about the peace process in ukraine. so we will continue to talk to them firmly, that is what president macron will do when he visits president xi in a few

months. >> so, you will convince trying to sign the peace process but there is still this news that china is considering supplying russia with lethal aid. is that not of concern? >> we will see about that. our concern is that china joins this de-escalation process. i think what happens in the, during the g20's amid was a first step -- and now we need to keep the pressure on heads on to continue convince them to go forward. >> one year ago vladimir putin was still i think seriously underestimated ukraine's response, and frankly the strength that the european union, the strength of nato, one year later we are here, the war still raging but folks seen united. against, i would argue, in support of ukraine. can we expect that united front to continue? there are cracks. >> of course. disunity will continue because what is at stake is so much

more than ukraine security. it is the whole european union's sovereignty and the world's stability. and also our common values of freedom and democracy. and i think a year after the invasion began, we can say that russia went through freed three major failures. first, the failure on the battlefield. the initial invasion plan was defeated by the heroic ukrainian resistance. second failure is the failure to rally other countries in anti western union. russia is more isolated than ever and the third failure is the failure to foresee the consequences of this choice. russia is getting weaker and weaker every day, and more isolated every day. we just saw two major european countries, sweden and finland, eager to join nato as soon as possible. so, i believe that vladimir putin didn't foresee all of that when he decided to try to invade ukraine. >> he definitely didn't have that on his bingo card, if you ask me look i, think when

russia juve did ukraine there were real concerns in the world about an energy crisis. but, the european union adjusted. it became less dependent on russian oil. are you confident that europe's demand for oil is going to continue to be met? >> one of the key learnings of this crisis, which was also a learning of the covid crisis, is that we need to build a european sovereignty in a field such as energy, industry and defense. we are building this european sovereignty with massive, massive investment packages in energy, president macron announced huge met investments in nuclear power plants and renewables. so yes, we are tackling this issue. and we also have a strong economy to resist. the truth is, since president macomb was elected, we have been moving forward with massive reforms to make france the most pro business country in the eu. we are now the first country for foreign investments in the

eu, we have the leading tech ecosystem in the eu, ahead of germany. >> service saying the plan is working? >> yes, the plan is working because we are making some reforms and i want to see say to all of your viewers, who want to invest, want to create -- >> come to france? >> yes. to come to france. >> you know what, i'm sure the u.s. government officials that are watching, they said they wanted to be made in america before i let you go, you are one of the youngest members of the government of france. you are one of the, france's fifth republic, you are one of the very few openly gay ministers in a country where frankly, anti-lgbtq acts have been on the rise. on the show, i have to talk about how culture wars are a distraction of the modern -- apparatus, they are also, they are actually the playbook. do you see any signs of that in france as well? >> no -- >> or even the european union more broadly? >> i think what president mcconnell pointed minister at

29 it was an honor for me but it was also responsibility for me to show that everything is possible when you are young, when you are gay, you can commit, you can be empowered. i think president mcconnell also wanted to send a message of confidence to the young generation, to the lgbtq+ people about their empowerment and their, the possibility for them to act for a better society. and i hope it a few years when this is over and i look back over my shoulder i can say that i helped xinjiang peoples lives and built a better country. >> i love this. minister, can you -- thank you very much for being with us today. for more on what is going on in ukraine i want to bring in anne-marie horton, she is a washington correspondent for bloomberg. let's start with your reaction to what you heard from minister a towel who is literally -- everyone just saw, about president macron and his

dealings with xi jinping and china. >> so i think what you have seen over the last 12 months is a united front. but europe, european union is trying to -- ensure the minister understands there are countries that have been a bit of a headache, not just for the biden administration but for the likes of president mccaul and scholz and italy's -- whoever it is and i would look to hungary's viktor orban, especially when you are talking about china, when he went met with blinken at the security conference then went over to -- met with lavrov, he met with vladimir putin talking about this relationship that is rock-solid. but in between those meetings he also was in budapest. meeting with hungry. and this is a relationship, viktor orban, this individual, has really while he standup and voted for the sanction packages and we just had the tenth round this weekend, he is always questioning how much the european union should be doing. he keeps this warm cozy relationship with putin. so you are on, there is concern

of not just fatigue of this war and how much money can continue to be spent but to make sure that unity stays alive within this packed. >> so i mean, if china does end up supplying russia with lethal aid, do you think that will affect nato's support of ukraine? do you think that will make a difference for other european leaders? >> i think there will be more of an impetus on nato to continue that support for ukraine. i think the question right now is, the united states has pretty much made clear that this is a red line they see with china. the president though downplayed it a little bit this week in his interview with abc news, saying he doesn't see this as a concern just yet. >> because it has not happened. >> it hasn't happened. -- has not done anything but the united states is saying we have intelligence that suggests there are strongly considering -- >> the german press is also talking about a potential contract of 100 kamikaze drones from a company in china to

russia. the question is they talk about will there be consequences in china, but what is that? what happens if they cross that red line? >> in marie, i just, wars are not ended on battlefields they are ended on negotiating tables. but right now, there is not much negotiating happening exactly. absolutely not. so how does this and? >> that is a great question. i don't think really anyone actually knows. at this time last year the headlines were kyiv was gonna fall in hours if not days. that is not true. i was just in warsaw with the president, the president made this cloak and eggers trip to kyiv and keep still stands. how this ends, obviously as you say most likely on the negotiating table. u.s. administration what they want to do is make sure that ukraine is in the best possible position when they get to that negotiating table. but when is it going to be? we are one year into this war

and nato and european pairing for protected and prolonged war. >> how do you negotiate with someone that the united states has called a war criminal? we could do this all day i am so happy you came in. we are going to have you back annmarie horton, thank you very much for your time. when we come back, i will be joined by ohio congresswoman emilia sykes. we are going to take get her take on the response to the train derailment disaster and be reporting about potential republic lcongressional investigations. stick with us for this interview. terview. to sleep, so when our windshield cracked, we needed it fixed right. we went to safelite.com. there's no one else we'd trust. their experts replaced our windshield, and recalibrated our car's advanced safety system. they focus on our safety... so we can focus on this little guy. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ ♪♪ inner voice (kombucha brewer):

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news conference on the train derailment in east palestine, ohio. just a short time ago, the epa attempted to clear up a question about the safety of the water in the area, the ohio epa director and governor apparently did have testing data from the county when he and nearly told residents their water was safe to drink. earlier it wasn't clear whether the governor was basing that claim only on testing evidence from a norfolk southern contractor. it wasn't clear because they couldn't tell us. the epa also said it had cleared a norfolk southern railway to start removing toxic waste from the site again. epa says it has found places inside ohio that are willing to take the toxins and meet the standards set by the administration. now the trained rail meant in east palestine ohio has sparked the scrutiny of multiple

federal agencies. congress also has a role to play to. people just emphasize that in a recent conversation. take a listen. >> we have been working from the day this administration arrived to raise the bar on rail safety regulation, especially because it got water down quite a bit under the previous administration. also calling on congress to take steps, common sense steps, like increasing the cap on the finds that we can use to hold railroads accountable for any safety violations. making sure that we have a freer hand for imposing the right kind of safety promoting rules on things like braking systems and the way hazardous materials are handled. >> federal agencies have authority to issue new regulations. only within a certain scope. the scope is decided by, you got at the united states congress. so what, solutions will lawmakers be offering as they head back to washington this week? democratic congresswoman amelia size of ohio joins me now.

congresswoman, thank you for being here. i want people to know that you don't represent east palestine, but you recently noted that, quote, pollution knows no geographic boundaries. that really struck me. what are any concerns that you have that you're hearing from constituents about their safety? what are you telling them to reassure them? >> thank you so much for the question. thank you for having me on today. i represent ohio's 13 congressional district. it is just to the east of where the congressional districts where east palestine is located. we had constituents who are concerned. we have constituents concerned across the state of ohio. they are not completely sure about what's happening. as you all know, water travels, air travels, and when we're talking about toxic chemicals through our waterways and through our air, people are going to be concerned. considering the fact that over the weekend, we found that the pollution's in the water was being transported to michigan and texas to be disposed of, it

certainly is clear that what happened in these palestine is not staying in these palestine. it is necessary for every member of congress to be concerned about these pollutants and where they are going. >> congresswoman, how can you assure people in ohio, in your district, that they are safe? how can members say people are going to be all right if they don't live in these palestine, to the point that you had been making. i think spot on, the pollution has no. boundaries >> we have to tell people the truth. we have to be willing to hear their concerns and absorb them. wherever they may be. it may be emotional. it may be difficult to listen to. we have to be as transparent as possible. walking through the timelines and explaining why certain federal agencies are showing, up by certain state agencies are showing up, who has privacy and authority and jurisdiction over water versus air. making it make sense to people

who don't to deal with emergencies and government agencies on a daily basis. that is the role and responsibility that we as elected leaders have. it's one of the reasons why i wanted to be at east palestine, so i could best understand what was happening. as a member of congress and the sole member from ohio on the transportation infrastructure committee, what is it that i can do in my position to best address the needs? harriet directly from the people who are most impacted right. now >> you are also on the house oversight committee. the chairman of that committee sent a letter that we talked about earlier on this show. demanding pete better jazz retain all documents related to the delight romance, noting the apathy toward the disaster. >> how are you and other democrats on the committee making sure that future hearings actually search for solutions and not just scoring political points? >> i am not on house oversight committee. i am on transportation and

infrastructure. i have requested the subcommittee on railroads and hazardous mysterious to hold a hearing so we can actually get to the answers. the oversight committee certainly can and could have a role here. but we are talking about a trained realm. and we are talking about railroad safety with hazardous materials. we should be talking about this in transportation and infrastructure if we are truly looking to get to the bottom of this and make reasonable and meaningful impact so this does not happen in another community. >> it really strikes me. republicans have long opposed expanded regulations. a lot of your republican colleagues talked extensively about the regulation. this expanded regulation is designed to overt catastrophes like what we saw on these palestine. the 2016 republican party platform, which also served as the 2020 platform for the party called regulation, quote unquote, the quiet tired any. do you think that there is a

bipartisan path for congress expanding the regulatory powers of relevant agencies, or even passing their own real safety changes? >> they're absolutely should be a pathway in congress to do. so that's going to depend on the will of members of both parties. i know my colleagues, the ranking member transportation infrastructure, as well as ranking member pain from railroads and subcommittee, we are all committed to the safety of the american public. we are committed to using our positions in order to do what's necessary to protect the safety of people in this country. we also need to hold accountable folks like norfolk southern when they are bad actors. when they are creating catastrophes and lifelong problems for people like they're doing and east palestine. we have to hold these people accountable. and that's going to rely upon congress and be willing to make the hard decisions to do so and holding these corporations accountable. >> lest folks let the rail company off the hook here. congresswoman amelia sykes of

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ideological-leaning of the states highest court. either keeping it in conservative clutches are shifting the balance of power to democrats. shifting the courts to the left would likely provide a chance to strike down that 1849 law banning most abortions in the state. opportunity to toss out the most gerrymandered state legislative map in the nation. and the assurance of another swing state firewall against election denial for years to come. i told you, all politics is local. joining me now to discuss are some of my friends camila dechalus, is here, a congressional report of the washington post, which juanita tolliver is also here. host of the what a day podcast. and former republican congressman carlos curbelo with, also an msnbc political analyst, is also here. congressman, when the last shelby first. i will start with. you what are the implications of this race as it relates to the threats against democracy you talked a lot about that

over the last during 2022. with simone, this is a big test of two issues. voter enthusiasm is on two issues. number one, election integrity. we saw in the november election a lot of candidates who were lying and being dishonest and punished by voters all over the country and the other issue is abortion. last summer this was top of mind for a lot of voters it debated a little bit going into the election. politically speaking, republicans have taken a big gamble. they have pressed on this issue after winning at the supreme court. we have seen a backlash over this in different parts of the country. wisconsin, voters are going to have the opportunity again to speak out on these two issues. election integrity and abortion. republicans have been on the right side of both those issues in recent months. >> juanita, congressman makes a very important point. this was an issue that galvanized voters in the

midterm elections last year. now we have another race, not that far removed from the midterms, the right to make decisions about our own body is a top issue. according to a 2022 survey by the public religion research institute, 64% support illegal -- abortion in wisconsin. is that why we're seeing such high turnout for the supreme court primary? do you think voters there understand the stakes? >> absolutely. the campaigns did a great job of communicating that to voters. that is front and center. i appreciate the emphasis on the. number 64%. that's been pretty steady for the last decade. here we have republicans yet again using this as a baseline we know that conservative in this general election is supported by antiabortion whereas with janet per se which has been front and center on protecting and her commitment to protecting access to abortion. care what we're seeing in wisconsin marries what we saw in kansas when they had their primary. abortion was also on the

ballot. voters there resoundingly supported access to this form of health care with voters crossing partisan lines, demographic, lines religious lines. all of which to make sure that access to health care like abortion stayed available in their state. we can expect even higher numbers to come out of april's general election. again, this message is going to be something that the campaigns are going to be putting in front of voters every single day for the next six weeks. >> this is not just wisconsin specific issue. they have a supreme court general election coming up. this is something that folks across the country are currently grappling. with any day, now there is a federal judge in texas that is expected to grant a pulmonary injunction that would order the fda to take the medication abortion drug with the press, don't yes, with the press stone off the market nationwide. nationwide. camilla, more than half of the people who have to end their

pregnancies use that drug. this is also a drug that is used when women miscarry. how are people racing for the impact of this decision? what are you hearing from lawmakers with? >> this is something that advocates and people that are closely watching what this case are looking at. you've been seeing in the past three days there has been reaction. you had dozens of democratic governors creating a coalition that their whole sole purpose is to coordinate to strengthen abortion access across states. if it's curtailed in texas and other states then they are trying to prepare so they can take and more patients. will you see this backlash in what's happening. other states are preparing to take and more people also creating these coalitions to create better access to unlock abortion care. >> what does it say that in

texas one judge that was appointed by trump will, -- across the country. juanita? >> it's dangerous. it's a danger to us all. it's important to emphasize again the point that this would be a national ban on a drug that's been available for 20 plus years with fda approval. so that's that concern here. let's be real, simone, i'm afraid for who is going to be armed most. it's the same marginalized groups that have struggled to access abortion care under roe and now in this post roe reality. black and brown people, people living with disabilities, people in rural communities, right? this is an attack on our public health safety system. >> this is an important point. hospitals have closed all across the country. congressman, i am an of time, one sentence describe what's going on here. if you have one.

what would it be? when >> i think it's big political peril for republicans if they keep pressing on this issue. they keep pthey want. they for decades work to overturn roe. and they won. if they spike the football, the backlash is going to be huge. it's going to hurt a lot of centrist republican candidates that really cannot afford to have this issue happening over their heads in swing districts and states all over the country. >> all of the country. we will have to leave it there. congressman carlos curbelo, former congressman, camilla ditch alice and juanita tolliver. thank you very much. next, we are continuing my series living black history. it is the end. it's the lack weekend in black history month. with doctor may jemison. the first black woman to travel into outer space and her inspiring story doesn't stop there and we will tell you more after the break. e break. liberty mutual. they customize your car insurance. so you only pay for what you need! whoo! we gotta go again.

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dr. jemison, i know you have been inspiring girls to follow in your footsteps through organizations like girls inc., near in dear to my heart. i know this because a 12-year-old girl in nebraska was attending a girls event when she realized she was sitting at the same table with the first black woman in space. when she heard you talking about a seeing earth out your window on the space shuttle and that little girl would be me. i wanted to thank you for that. i read that growing up you watched national missions and knowing that you would go into space monday we. that's profound. how did you know that's what you're going to do? >> so, i just need to say that sometimes people want to tell stories as though they only had one arc. what i do, i wanted to go into space. i was intended to be a scientist. i was intending to explore and be creative and to make a difference in this world. i think that what's really exciting about your segment living black history that it's

not about just sort of enumerating out those things that have happened or vet people have done. it's really, what do you do with your place at the table. how do you continue to build on that history? >> it's such an important point. why bluford, as you know, is the first african american going to space. he said that he made it his mission to get others get their. so far, nasa has send 15 black americans to space. 15 out of 360. so, in terms of what we are doing now, how are you helping others follow in your footsteps? >> i don't think it's about following and footsteps. it's about a billion a legacy. the work that i do now is really about how do we expand who's involved in space exploration? who gets a chance to not go there but to determine how to -- i was in nairobi earlier this month. we held a program called nexus nairobi. a space purpose and culture

collide. it was about making sure that we expanded what we do in space. i had the good fortune of being a person who led a team who won the gag prize of the year ten years ago called 100-year starship. it was about how do we make sure that we get people with, the capabilities, for human interstellar flight. why is this important? so much of what's going on in the world today is being determined right now. what's going to happen in the future is being determined right now by the people who were involved. people think about space, you think of it, like it's really cool. people have got to go up. that's not the issue. that's not the only issue. the issue, is are we using it to increase agriculture? are we using it to help with madison? are we using it to look at road maps and whether. what address the climate crisis. all of those issues. it's so important for me that it's not about people following

in my footsteps. they're creating a path. how do i and build that path forward? so, that's what i'm excited about as we talk about a living black history. and i should remind, you yes, i was a medical doctor. i was also an african studies major. african american studies. so, when i went up into space, it wasn't only, i was the first black women. it's hard as it is to believe, i was the first woman of color in the entire world to go up. which really made no sense. >> oh my goodness, that knocked me back. the first woman of color in the world. >> dr. jameson, what you talk about that you are also an african studies professor. we talk about this history. it strikes me that we are celebrating black having this series while people are literally fighting not to be able to teach this history in schools all across this country. urban and rural areas. you have talked about how you are deeply affected by the death of dr. martin luther king

junior will. do you ever worry that doctor king's story as well as your story and the story of so many other trailblazers in our community will be lost? >> the stories aren't lost as long as we continue to talk about it. the stories aren't lost as long as we continue to move the path forward. when i think again about black history, it is a history. it is the people who have contributed to every sphere of light in this country in this world. move the world forward. what we see now is really about people coming to grips with a reality that is different from the reality that they like to believe. it's a reality that's very powerful. it's important to the united states. it's important to the world. >> doctor mae jemison, i can't think of a better person to close out this series this month. thank you so much. >> you're very welcome. thank you. >> thank you at home for

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