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>> good evening and welcome to
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politicsnation. tonight's lead, multi tasking. last week, the biden administration reminded its republican detractors and the nation white voters overwhelmingly shows president biden and democrats. president biden as diplomatic chief wrapped up his successful east your pm trip marking the first anniversary of russia's invasion of ukraine with a surprise visit to kyiv. a renewed pledge of solidarity as the war drags into its second year. here at home, top biden officials were underground and east palestine, ohio responding
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to that trans trained around the disaster. the epa and fema worked hand in hand with local officials to clean up the mass and hold no for southern accountable for their accident. whether it was ukraine or ohio republican politicians could only offer photo ops and bad faith criticism threatening u.s. support for ukraine as another aid packages unveiled. run to the cameras in east palestine ohio to lay blame directly at president biden's feet. even as local officials were applauding the federal response. literally as late as just moments ago. the choice between competence and gaynor-y played out in virginia last week. voters in the old dominion choosing competence in a special election to succeed the
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late donald mckee chen in a minute i will talk to the democrat that won that race. the first black woman u.s. congress woman ever elected in the state of virginia. in the commonwealth. first, we start with congressman adam smith. the democrat of washington state. and the ranking democrat on the house armed services committee. congressman, we were following another news conference this afternoon. from east palestine ohio. a regional administrator from the environmental protection agency said the agency has identified additional disposal or disposal sites for the derailment. the agency also said railroad service will resume tomorrow. now, tonight i'm interested in your take on republican lawmakers criticizing the
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administration's handling of the disaster. as i lay it out at the top of the show, while donald trump wasn't east palestine last week, essentially for a photo op as he runs for president a third time, president biden was taken flak from some of trump's allies in congress are going to ukraine and not ohio even though you had top biden officials, the epa and fema all underground working with local authorities to clean up the mass. it seems to me that this administration can walk and chew gum at the same time. why do republicans suddenly take issue with a president that can delegate? >> it's opportunism, obviously. they're trying to make political hay out of anything they can. the overarching thing we see is exactly what you described. competent government. what basically president biden promised as opposed to the chaotic fiasco that was the
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trump administration. we see this play out certainly in these palestine. i'm following closely the events in ukraine. the presidents leadership on that, pulling the coalition together, keeping nato together has really made an enormous difference. meanwhile, the republicans just criticize. it's all they do. so, i think we have strong leadership for president biden in both instances to meet the challenges we face. it's a good advertisement for the biden administration, particularly when you contrast it with the chaos that was the trump administration. of course, culminating in his effort to forcefully stay in office on january 6th. i think the contrast is as clear as you described. >> well, also, talking about the trump administration conveniently forget some of the deregulation they did on railways and other issues that certainly and clearly are in the picture here with the
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situation in ohio. let me go here. i thank you for joining us tonight. this weekend, china released a proposal for a cease-fire and for peace talks between ukraine and russia. claiming to have a neutral stance on the war. however, it is also accused the rest of provoking the conflict by providing the ukraine with defensive arms. meanwhile, in a news conference, ukrainian president zelenskyy downplayed the possibility of midterm peace talks saying that russian president putin, quote, is no longer the same person, and quote, he once was. this comes after president biden called on putin to stop the war during his speech in poland on monday. and his administration wanting china against sending lethal assistance to russia. does this war have and and
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insight from where you see? >> i think it has a path towards that. look, we all want peace in ukraine. i think we should be abundantly aware that in one sense, peace could easily be achieved. putin could stop attacking and withdraw. he started this war. and russia invaded unprovoked. has been continuing to prosecute the war in brutal and roofs looks fashion. violating the most basic rules of humanity. if we want to win this, more if china wants to end this war, they could tell putin there sometimes ally to stop. in, fact if china wanted to stop this, where they could stop it very quickly by imposing the same sort of sanctions on russia that we have imposed upon them. if china did that, russia would have nowhere to turn. they would have no choice but to bring about peace. we need to keep in mind what started this and what is continuing it. the path to a peaceful resolution starts with stopping
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putin. if he won't stop on his own. if countries like china want to use their leverage to stop them, we need military to stop them by aiding ukraine. that's what the biden administration is doing. providing the arms and the weapons to turn it back. if you get about six months ago when ukraine rita kharkiv and her son. they show they could do. it we are now arming them to take back more territory. the path is push putin back and force them to the peace table. that's what we're trying to do. and that's the leadership that president biden the coalitions supporting ukraine and of course the incredibly brave courageous ukrainian people, that's the path we are forging. >> last month, you said in an interview that you were concerned that our military would not have the infrastructure or the readiness that it would need to engage with the foreign adversary, specifically china. will in part to the demands placed on the u.s. and its
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support for ukraine. i understand it's a concern that you share with republican chair of house armed services alabama congressman mike rogers. why the bipartisan concern over this congressman, briefly, we are out of time. >> sure, manufacturing weapons is really really difficult and takes time. we were not from an industrial base standpoint ready to wage a war like this. now, look, i'm in favor of giving ukraine anything that they need that now. we need to figure out how to manufacture more, in the short term ukrainians are. help and that's what we've been doing. we do have a need, not just in the u.s.. but with our allies to manufacture the weapons we need to meet our national security objection. we're beginning to turn that around. there is a lot more work that needs to be done. >> i said we're at a time. congressman, before you, go i know that you let this week with members from the black home initiative about the important work to combat historic housing discrimination
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and increase black homeownership in your region. tell us briefly about this challenge and the potential solutions you came up with. >> it's about going after the wealth gap. when you look at the statistics, you can see an income gap between black americans and other americans. the wealth gap is staggering. that obviously is the legacy and continuing path of racism in this country. so how do we began to help create wealth? for all americans. particularly, for black americans who have been discriminated against. home ownership has always been one of the surest paths to wealth creation for the middle class and the working poor. this organization designs ways to help black families access the loans that they need to buy houses and begin to generate that wealth. they are working in six different sort of urban metropolitan areas. seattle king county is one of them to help with homeownership and to help close the wealth
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gap. >> all right, thank you congressman adam smith of washington state. now to virginia, earlier this week jennifer michael ellen overwhelmingly won a special election for a richmond-based congressional district to succeed the late democratic congressman donald nikki chen. making virginia's first black woman to ever be elected to congress. she joins me right now. congresswoman-elect, i want to start by congratulating you on your historic win. how does it feel to have broken the barrier making history? >> i don't know if she can hear. >> it blows my mind. can you hear me? >> i hear you, now. yes >> it blows my mind in
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2023. i'm very honored. your widow and also adds to the record number women and women of color serving in congress. how do you plan on representing women's issues and also racial justice issues and your time on capitol hill? >> my experience, every issue is a women's issue. every issue is a racial justice issue. i bring my unique perspective as a black woman to see how we can address disparities in that they go back to jim crow and the legacy of slavery. with >> now, 12 democratic states have sued the food and drug administration to challenge certain federal restrictions imposed on the distribution of the abortion pill he. mifepristone.
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i know i mispronouncing it. saying those pills that limits are not supported by evidence that they are trying to present. meanwhile, a separate lawsuit by the antiabortion activists that seek to and access to the drug is receding in texas with federal judge, a federal judge there could revoke the fda approval of the pale effectively. it would be banning its use nationwide. on thursday, virginia house republicans rejected last ditch effort to force a vote on a proposal that would let virginia voters decide whether to enshrine abortion rights in the state constitution. a new public religious and research institute poll shows national support for abortion rights is at 64% more than ten points since 2010.
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where do you see the abortion access fight in virginia going? also, how do you plan on working with the gop in washington on this issue? considering this majority in the house? sir >> first, let me say that constitutional amendment. that hearing was my last hearing as a state senator where i said that decisions on health care including abortion, care should be between patients and their physicians. and politicians week -- not insert themselves and situations. i think the senate democratic's remain a brick wall against any efforts to rollback the progress we made in virginia. i would continue to fight for reproductive freedom at the federal level. i passed the laws in virginia that made us the first state to expand access to abortion by removing unnecessary
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restrictions. i would continue to fight in congress. >> virginia republican governor glenn youngkin has reportedly asked his education secretary for review of the advanced placement african american studies cause that has made headlines since it was rejected by republican governor ron desantis. according to a spokesperson for youngkin, the cars will be reviewed to ensure it complies with youngkin's executive order that would, quote, ban critical race theory. that of which he signed in the beginning of last year. what's your reaction to that? >> governor youngkin says that we should teach complete -- venues like everything he can to put barriers in the way when it comes to black american
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history and the legacy of slavery and jim crow. you cannot have it both ways. if we're going to heal as a country, we need to talk about the trauma that we suffered as a country to through slavery jim crow and it's lasting legacy on communities today. education in teaching that history is critically important to that healing. it's critically important to a thriving healthy democracy. governor youngkin seems to be more interested with ron desantis on who can reach the trump base by really -- accurate teaching of african american history. >> i'm advertise. i have to follow that up by asking you this. there is been those have said that youngkin may be looking at running for president. clearly everyone feels that the florida governor desantis says
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-- do you think youngkin is easing toward playing the culture war card to try to set himself up nationally as a more popular figure in the national gop circles? >> he ran for governor of virginia using that bar throughout the governorship so far. >> all right, representative-elect jennifer mcclelland, thank you for being with us tonight. we later on politicsnation, the popular comic strip gilbert is done. after recent racist comments from the creator. this has apparently been a long time coming. i will explain. after the break, we are rising above the political gain to see who's doing the real cleanup following the toxic train wreck in rural ohio.
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first, my colleague richard lui with today's other top news stories. >> rev, very good sunday to you. search and rescue operations are underway at the moment off the coast of italy. a ship carrying migrants broke apart shortly after the dawn this morning. the death toll is currently at 59 and expected to rise. the ship left turkey five days before the wreck carrying as many as 200 passengers. uber and lyft face a debate about minimum wage for drivers in the country's biggest city. laguardia airport today, uber and lyft drivers are on a 12 hour strike because of that. new york will hold hearings on a minimum wage for drivers wednesday. park south, far niente remain under winter weather alerts through wednesday. this year and a battle area is under blizzard warning. winter storm dumped massive amounts of precipitation across southern california this weekend. more than six nap eat of snow hit the mountain area just at this weekend. more than five inches of rain in the cucamonga canyon close by.
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around manton east palestine, ohio. causing an environmental crisis. president trump arrived at the town and behaved as if he had just discovered the place. a spokesman for the presidential hopeful claimed trump's visit came before any senior white house official had made the trip. of course, it wasn't fair or true. president biden, as you may recall, visited a literal war zone this week. so, it's not like he hasn't been busy looking after the country's national interests. also, the presidents people have been on the ground. most significantly, epa administrator michael regan. who has been a familiar face in
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the region. now, this is reagan on tuesday drinking the towns tap water with republican congressman bill johnson and ohio governor mike dewine. when trump stopped by, he brought bottles of water with his name on them and ordered mcdonald's reagan might not be the biden cabinet member republicans want to pick a fight with, but he happens to be the one of the government official is with the most authority to address the urgent problems right now. just yesterday, the epa announced it was taking control of the waste disposal at the derailment site. the epa would also be overseeing norfolk southern's cleanup and working alongside the cdc to monitor the health impacts of the toxic spell for people and wildlife.
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most of this work will take place off camera. which is probably why you don't hear many politicians talking about it. it's easy to play the blame game when a disaster years. and there will be plenty of republicans who claim this administration doesn't care about what's happening because it feeds into these same divisive lies they've been telling their supporters for years. with from where i'm standing, i see the country's black, first black environmental chief working around the clock to help a mostly white rural community in crisis. alongside a team of many competent and dedicated public service, that's exactly how our government should work. and we should rise up and support the efforts rather than try to tear them down with. we will be right back. ack.
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politicsnation. joining me now is my political panel, political analyst and former rnc chair michael steele opinion writer for the washington post dana mill bank. dana, let's start and ohio. some republicans have blasted president biden for going to ukraine. but he has not yet visited the state to have the toxic train derailment. although as we noted in the last segment of the administration has been working around the clock responding to the incident. i want to play something eric publican congressman michael mccaul of texas said earlier today. >> i think the president should have gone to palestine when we had this major chemical spill. it doesn't mean we disregard what's happening in the struggle for the global balance of power that we're facing right now, we haven't seen
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anything like this is my father's generation in world war ii. ohio's republican governor has also said the president has been in touch and offered him whatever help he needs. are republicans criticizing the white house for their response to the derailment just plain politics? >> i am shocked politics is occurring here, reverend al. i think it's even worse than you are noting. the unfairness of targeting biden for not going to the derailment in ohio. it's a case of republicans have for several years now and working to defund the epa, to defund the transportation department, to weaken the regulations that would give the government and the ability to prevent this sort of thing and to respond to this sort of thing. and then something bad happens. one of the things they do, they blame the government, they blame the administration. it's sabotaging the government
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and then blame the sabotage government for failing to act. yes, it's politics. it's something more sinister than that. it's undermining the very notion of government itself. >> michael, this weekend newspapers across the country have pulled the delivered comic strip after the creator made racist comments on his podcast about black people. this is definitely not the first time adams has made offensive remarks. yet he's been embraced by republicans. congressman matt gates has appeared on the podcast, former president donald trump even hosted him in the oval office. michael, you know how desperate to gop can be to embrace cultural figures with conservative views. right now, roseanne barr has a special standup special on fox. will they also continue to stand by bigoted cartoonists in your opinion? >> sure, until we see otherwise,
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until the behavior changes, absolutely. it certainly plays into the narrative of another white man having to deal with the black people around him who have expressed their concerns about the culture and the politics and the racism. to blow that back on black people with the admiration for white folks, just don't be around. them really i just don't want to be around the black people. okay, that's your choice. and you will pay the price for that choice. you're willing to pay that price. he was asked what is your income look like next week? he said nothing. yeah, because you are in a very public space on private platforms espousing segregation views. what do you think the outcomes going to be. with the republicans lean into that and say you complain with
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us. we will help you. help with what? washington post is not going to put the cartoon back on their funny pages just because republicans sort of rally around him. one's concerned about who's been below 40. there you. are >> the issue is the normalizing of this. people can say things and say, well, i misspoke. whatever. to normalize this and act like it's okay in the middle of the culture, the cartoonist, that is what is very disturbing. michael, staying with you a minute. let's talk about nikki haley. in an op-ed for the new york post, the republican presidential candidate called for cutting -- she says i america. such as china or pakistan. you've been following the campaign of the former south carolina governor and ambassador to the eu and since
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it launched earlier this. month what is your take on it so far? >> it's unfortunate. in, fact i tweeted out to nikki to stop doing this to ourselves. we stop damning down your knowledge and influence in this space. she knows damn well that is not thing more than playing to a very narrow isolationist base within the gop. the reality of it is, that's not how it works in foreign policy. you don't say, we're just going to cut off any resources of funding that anybody who hates as. well, on any given day of the week, that can include our allies. that could include some people who are now enemies who are friends who could be frustrated with us on something else. is it domestic protest? is it governments level protest? how are you defining? this shows the performative be asked not just here domestically but internationally that republicans are willing to do
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in order to coddle a very very small we base vote that doesn't reflect where the party has been historically are not where the party is now. >> dana, for the last, question i want to get really both of, you are going to start with, you dana. the speaker kevin mccarthy is under fire for sharing about 44,000 hours of surveillance camera footage from january six with fox news host tucker carlson. other media organizations including nbc news have demanded access to the tapes as well. the speaker is more than just a political leader. they also oversee the day today administration of the capitol, including security. matt is there something unprecedented about what mccarthy has done here? we >> yes, day after day it
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seems that he breaks president after precedence. this is one of the promises he made to the holdouts to give him the speakership. according to matt gates himself, this is one of the things that kevin mccarthy promised to release all of this footage. of course, he's not released at. he's released it specifically to tucker carlson who can added at and doctor any which way. look, i understand why the other media are asking for the same thing. the truth, is this doesn't belong in the public domain for anybody. kevin mccarthy sort of craven this to cater to the mat gauges and the tucker carlson, as he is risking the security of himself and of his colleagues and of the capital itself. we it's the sort of thing that if this footage is in the hands of any media as happens with any national security information that's in the possession of the media, they need to work with the capitol police and others so they don't
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compromise the security of the capital. you can be pretty sure that's not what tucker carlson's going to be dealing with this information. >> michael, same question. >> i couldn't agree with dana. more this is reckless. it is irresponsible. incomprehensible. if any democratic president under any circumstances say i'm just going to give reverend al footage from this event or that event or give him the insight information that he would need, you could hear the howling all the way up and down k street, pennsylvania avenue, and across the country. but this again, to dana's, point is about the promise, the promise that kevin made in order to secure the position of the speaker. so, we are now going to pay a price for. this disinformation is in the wrong hands. not just the fact that it's over at fox, it's in the wrong hands at fawkes. someone who is wholly favorable with when dictators and authoritarians who's willing
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and ready to appease putin, we don't know what he's going to do with. that when does he ship off some snippets to our adversaries abroad because he aligns politically with their thinking? this is a problem all around, not just because it went to fox, but it shouldn't have gone out the way it did. kevin knows better. kevin's interested in kevin. so, here we. are we will pay the price for it down the road, trust. me >> i'm going to have to leave it there. michael, dana, thank you both for being with us this evening. still ahead a, new documentary looks at rudy giuliani's spectacular rise and a spectacular fall many of us who knew him all we saw coming. we will be right back.
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shop for downy unstopables online, including our lighter scent. >> welcome back to politicsnation. tonight, at 10 pm eastern, msnbc films presents the second episode of when truth isn't truth. the rudy giuliani story. i four part series from the
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studios. i was interviewed for this documentary, which explores the former prosecutor and new york mayor's rise to power, fall from grace and how little he changed in between. >> i do remember reading his speech and him reading a speech. they say new york's ungovernable. >> new york is not governable. they say that businesses are leaving. >> all of these i declare politically incorrect. >> i find it funny that people sort of thought of him as america's mayor. that wasn't rudy giuliani. that giuliani of that a 92 riots, that's rudy giuliani. >> joining me now is the director and executive producer of the documentary, rebecca guiltless. rebecca, thank you for being with us. now, rudy giuliani has been a household name in american politics for several decades. and a familiar face to new york
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for longer. why did you decide to do such a deep dive on his life story now? >> thank you so much for having me on and for being in the documentary. you are so invaluable to us. i think right now rudy stays in the public eye, it's been 50 years, we've seen this new coming of rudy. we wanted to look back and look at where he's come from and what he's done. and challenge the conventional beliefs of this was a mayor that took down a crime. this was america's mayor. this was, he has this massive fall from grace. i would argue it is maybe not true. >> tonight's second episode on your documentary looks at giuliani's campaign to -- first black mayor david jenkins and his embrace of race baiting politics in a deeply divided city. people who are not familiar,
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but was race like then, explain? >> we saw two new york's during the giuliani harris. when we're still coming out of the dickens maritime. we ended that time with the new york city police riots. it's almost erased from history. this was a place where rudy giuliani stood on a stage in front of hundreds of off-duty not -- off-duty, yeah, off-duty. >> it was about 10,000 i believe. >> they were screaming for a sitting mayor. the first new york city, the first time we had a black mayor in new york city. we had someone who saying we just wanted to hold the. line that's very similar to what we hear congressman raskin saying about january six years later. we were in a race for women. >> these were off duty police. i think i talked about it in the interview. we had seen blacks killed in certain segments.
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it was a big racial divide. we were doing marches. 10,000 off duty policeman marched on this black mayor calling him the n-word. you got it in the film. these are cops. these are people openly calling him the n-word. >> yes, this was a watershed day as mayor de blasio talked about it for rudy giuliani. we saw that he was willing to do just about anything to get elected. >> we spoke at this rally. you covered at the role in the police riot in 1992 for those of us active in new york politics at the time, it was no surprise rudy would go and be a player 30 years later on january six. without giving too much away for the remaining three episodes. can you talk about the similarities between the january six and the police riot because they storm city hall screaming the and word and the
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keynote speaker of the route lee was rudy giuliani. >> it sure, was kevin baker says in the film this nights are this day was the birth of really the fascist. that is really true. we see a rioting police officer shaking city hall flipping over police cars. he's standing on a podium riling up the crowd talking about david jenkins, he blames you, he blames me. let the and where it is being held up and jenkins is a washroom attendant. if you are a public servant at this time, you would quiet down the crowd. you would ask for some respect. and that is not what we saw. we saw rudy giuliani standing on the podium in january six saying, by any means necessary, trial by combat. this was a dress rehearsal for him. >> giuliani's seem to have reduced himself to a punchline
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after 2020 election. yet this week he was in ohio meeting with residents affected by the toxic train spill. and of course posting an embellishing about his response to 9/11. if there is still another chapter to be written in the 78-year-old political life, what do you think it would look like? >> i think rudy has an ability to keep pushing forward. regardless of what the naysayers say, he lives and breathes beyond this balcony. he will always be and what was one of my favorite lines of the film, and asked this is them mentality. so he will find people that will follow him and be the, acidifying people to go against and be the them. >> rebecca gitlitz, i thank you. you can watch and should watch an all new episode of when truth isn't truth. the rudy giuliani story tonight
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for watching. i will see you back here next weekend at 5 pm eastern. american voices with alicia menendez starts right now. >> thank you so much, reverend sharpton. hello everyone, i'm ali simon and. as we begin this sunday with the high stakes election you might not have heard much about it is a state race that could shave abortion access for a decade and helped pick the next president. yes, we're talking about the wisconsin supreme court. the panel technically nonpartisan but whichever side wins the open seat will take the majority. liberal judges gain control. they could fix wisconsin's extreme gerrymandering and overturn the pre-civil war abortion ban. conservatives keep their grip on the court, they're likely to give the big lie