destruction. >> kelly carter jackson, and reena shaw, thank you for taking the time for coming on. that does it for me, thanks for watching, ali pay for double, so i'll be back here and canceled morrow filling in for ali velshi in his new time slot, 10 am to noon eastern. stay right where you are, alex witt reports begins right now. >> and a very good day to all of you, from msnbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome everyone to alex witt reports. developing for you this hour, a new bombshell report could unravel republican efforts to prove the government has been weaponized against conservatives. a report from the democrats on the house judiciary committee alleges the first three witnesses to testify privately, before the gin joint lent committee, are not whistleblowers. instead, democrats say they

appear to be a group of former fbi agents who traffic and conspiracy theories, and have little evidence of actual wrongdoing. we're gonna take you through that report later on this hour. democratic committee matter colin allred slamming the committee's efforts right here on msnbc, take a listen. >> as somebody who served in the obama administration, and now in congress, i think this is the ten four house committee, there's nothing here. they said it's going to be the response to january six committee given that, apparently in a similar budget, and they have nothing, that's because there is no there there. it's also a waste of taxpayer dollars, and of our time. >> meanwhile brand new reporting on how president biden's 2024 strategy is taking shape. the washington post reports the president's team is moving quickly to endless potential rivals for a national advisory board. the group of democratic governors, senators, another party stars will travel and then speak on the president's behalf during his expected

campaign. but what's the goal? we'll have details on a live report for you coming. up and donald trump is trying to take hold of the 2024 republican presidential race as he prepares to give a keynote speech to close out the cpac conference later today. as a major gop figures are skipping down, it has been a trump friendly affair with many of the speakers even being key trump allies. some of them already making the, eye-opening head-scratching comments. >> we either get this government back on our side, or we defund and get rid of, abolish the fbi, cdc, hp, doj, every last one of them if they do not come to hear. >> i will look at a counteract lee tells zelenskyy, you better leave your hands off of our sons and daughters, because they're not dying over there. >> so, we're gonna bring in live report from that conference in just moments. but first, today, we have the disgraced south carolina

attorney, alex murdaugh who is behind bars where he is spending the rest of his life after being sentenced for the murders of his wife and son. joining me now is nbc's priscilla thompson in columbia, south carolina, where murdaugh is being held. priscilla, welcome. what more do we know about his first night in prison, and what comes next for him? >> well, alex murdaugh did spend the first light in that life sentence in here, and it's all alone, at the kirkland reception and evaluation center where he's expected to remain for the next several weeks. >> the first image of alec murdaugh, his head shaved as he begins a new life behind bars. the once powerful attorney is being processed at the kirkland reception an evaluation center, where the south carolina department of corrections says he spent about 45 days. undergoing medical tests, mental health evaluations, and education assessments. the results, along with murdaugh's crimes and sentence

will determine which maximum security prison he'll be assigned to live out his remaining days. meanwhile, murdaugh's defense team is planning his appeal. >> i'm innocent, i would never, under any circumstances, hurt my wife maggie, and i would never, under any circumstances, hurt my son pope oh. >> the judge, unmoved, hunting to life sentences. >> and it might not have been you, it might have been the monster you become when you take 15, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 opioid pills. >> it's a combination of six weeks of testimony and evidence in the brutal double murder case that included a rare trip to the crime scene. jurors walked the cannelton feed areas, where maggie and paul were gunned down, and we're perhaps the most damning evidence in the case was captured. murdaugh's voice, overheard in his putt son paul snapped a video, placing him at the scene of the crime minutes before the murders. after he told investigators he

wasn't there. >> and a lot about being down there. and i'm so sorry that i did. >> in the end, the jury returned the verdict, and just under three hours. >> guilty verdict. >> the case, coming to a close, as investigations into other possible crimes moving forward. murdaugh faces a slew of additional charges for financial -- as he begins his first full day of a life sentence behind bars. >> i know you have to see paul and maggie drink the nighttime when you're attempting to go to sleep. and i'm sure they come and visit you. >> all day, and every night. >> and murdaugh is not allowed any visitors for now, other than his attorneys who are planning his appeal. he remains under evaluation, after which he will be sent to

a different maximum security prison where he will begin serving out that term. alex? >> okay, priscilla, thank you for that. joining me right now to continue conversation here in studios, msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos. here's what's kind of striking to me, he said very little in his sentencing. nobody came forward to say anything in support of him. then you had judge neumann saying, you know, nobody bought the stories that you were telling. let's take a listen to that. >> and to have you come and testify, that it was just another ordinary day. the my wife, and son and i were out just enjoying life. not credible, not believable, you can convince yourself about it but obviously you have the inability to convince anyone else about that. >> so, what stood out to you overall from all that? >> judge neumann was inscrutable throughout the trial, but now, injuring

sentencing we finally get what was really on his mind. you must of been sitting there throughout the evidence saying to himself, this guy is guilty, even though it's not for him to say to say, it's for the jury to say. he let alex murdaugh have it in this allocution. you see murdaugh, in my mind, still trying to work the angle, still trying to get in front of an of dance and talk his way out of trouble, just the way he has done so for so long, at least up until now. >> i know that his defense team has said they're going to appeal the case, on what grounds, what do you think the likelihood is of that, first of all going to trial, and being so successful? >> first, everyone appeals, especially in a serious felony case like this. a murder case, there's an automatic appeal. he will appeal. the two main points for appeal are, the admission of the financial crimes evidence, which is strange because, this is evidence that helped the defendant, if anything it was the strongest point in their closing argument. that financial crime evidence was about the states theory of motive. and other words, the motive was that my world is cabin in on me,

i'm going to be prosecuted for all my fraud, i'll kill my wife and son, and get sympathy. it's insane, nobody bought that. i think the government, the state, even saw that in their closing. it pivoted away from it. they said, we don't even need motive, basically, forget motive, and just focus on the facts that he was there. that's 0.1. 0.2 might be, a fifth amendment violation for introducing evidence that murdaugh failed to come to law enforcement and be honest with them. that's a bit of a long shot because murdaugh silence wasn't really silence, it was intermittent violence. he talked about something's to lawn force meant, are the things he did not talk to them about. so that may not work for him either. both are long shots. >> if he had not taken the stand which are the chances he would've been acquitted? >> hello. low to zero. although, people can disagree about that. i think the case was already going poorly for him, but once he took the stand, it was just the final nail in a coffin that was already filled with nails, in my view. this was going to likely happen

no matter what. the only chance that they had, the defense, was the states motive theory, which was hard to buy. but i don't think that him testifying did anything other than seal the deal for the jury. >> interesting, okay, denis cevallos and you take as always, my friend. let's go from there now to the latest on decision 2024, the rate for the white house are certainly getting. up we're learning some new details today about president biden's plans. right now, a number of potential gop candidates are making headlines at cpac, of course, the conservative political action conference being held in maryland. we have two reports covering those latest involvements for you. we're gonna go to -- aisle a welcome on the saturday. the president has yet to make any official bid for this election, because already rolling out a new strategy. talk about who he has enlisted to help him. >> yeah, alex, well president biden is essentially keeping his friends close, and his potential enemies even closer, according to this new reporting from the washington post. the post is saying that his

team is creating what they're calling, this national advisory board, that consists of democratic governors, senators, and other surrogates, that's going to launch this month. that timing, pretty strategic, because we know that white house aides have signaled that the reelection announcement from president biden will happen next month. i want you to take a look at some of the people on this board. you have some longtime allies of the president, like delaware senator, chris coons. you have former 2020 rivals all like senator elizabeth warren. also governor, roczen whitmer, a late mayor, karen bass. some 2020 vice presidential contenders. this is a clever move for the president, politically. while it was highly unlikely that any of these democrats, being allies of the president, would go against him in a democratic primary, it gives the president sort of, the ability to hold all of his cards closer and sort of streamline, and control the messaging from democrats,

leading into his likely 2024 campaign. this is also a big difference from what we saw in 2020, where we saw more than two dozen democratic primary candidates going after each other and having all sorts of messaging on different topics. this is an ability to streamline that messaging and that theme. they also range in age and background that come from all different parts of the country, bringing all different things to the table. it gives the president the ability to appeal, to, really a broader audience in the grand scheme of things. rallying these surrogates together is sort of one half of the equation here. the other half is the president really touting this message of unity that he's been able to achieve within the democratic party. take a listen to some of what he had to say at an event involved apart with house democrats earlier this week. >> it's been one of the most successful united caucus says we have ever seen. and you all stick together, thank god. folks, you all know how much

we've gotten done. a lot of the country still doesn't know what, that's why the big job in front of us is implementing the laws we passed so people start to see it in the lives, all the benefits that are there because you produced it for them. you stepped up and got it done. >> so, there are a lot of layers to the strategy, there's a very early strategy by the president and his team ahead of that expected announcement. >> we likely sotheby's strategy. thank you for that. we're gonna go to nbc's vaughn hillyard in national harbor maryland, that's where watching the 2024 republican presidential race takes some sort of shape at cpac. vaughn, welcome to, it what way learning this weekend, particularly on your birthday. i don't know are gonna pick out one of those things, by yourself something as a gift? >> [laughter] what better place to celebrate than cpac. but these are the states, and this is reality. and donald trump will be here at 5:30 eastern tonight, so we'll be here into the evening hours. but cpac, over the last several

years, it's a conservative annual gathering, but it's largely julie bin more like the trump act. you're a trump show. a year in which potentially other republicans are considering getting into the race, there's a lot more at stake, yet, as you're about to see, there's still very much of a pro trump crowd here in attendance, yet again, take a look. >> donald trump's stronghold on the conservative movement, unclear this weekend. >> if you're tired of losing, put your trust in a new generation. i'm here to ask for your vote. >> republican presidential candidate, nikki haley, appearing on friday in front of a very pro trump crowd. >> cpac, the annual concert avoid gathering, increasingly a base of support for trump. >> this is trump won. >> when you got in 2024? >> trump, trump again. >> why we said cpac? >> donald trump! >> many prominent republicans including ron desantis, and mike pence, avoiding the affair. but haley, the only major republican to announce a direct

challenge to trump, entered the arena, as trump in polling remains the favorite to hold on to the top of the parties mental. [inaudible] >> we have an obligation -- >> other speakers, close allies of trump, including marjorie taylor greene, whose sources have told nbc news is interested in being named as trump number two. >> have you talk to the former president about potentially serving as his vp? >> i'm gonna keep that off the record. >> the scene here, full of republicans eager to appeal to the base of supporters. an acknowledgment of trump's impact. >> how has cpac changed since the rise of donald trump? >> well, look, cpac is always raucous and wonderful. there's electricity to it. i think there's been moran electricity. >> desantis, meanwhile, making stops in alabama, texas, california, and for the first time this year, he will visit iowa next week. these trips, as he defends himself from trump's increasing attacks. >> he used to say how great of

a governor i was, and then i went a big victory, and then all of a sudden he have just different opinions. >> and, alex, you message me yesterday and you are like, show me the goods. so we came down to where the goods are, and i'm glad you did, because i think it's actually quite representative what we're talking about. this is ron, ron, you run a maga mall. give me an idea of how much trump paraphernalia you have, and you have anybody else at the table? >> we've got some signs for donald trump, we have rhonda santa's, and we have a desantis bling cap here. >> we have one desantis had here. >> yes, and we have six here, we have desantis 2024, and desantis land. >> okay, so why so many trump versus desantis, what are people coming to buy? >> it's like 30 to 1 trump over desantis. >> 30 to 1, trump over desantis, alex. could we say that cpac is very

much trump land here in 2023? >> i would say so, the predominant lot of people here will be voting for trump, and i assume that trump will probably, more than double the sentences total in the drawer poll. >> marginal, this is, ron alex, and this is cpac 2023, and this is what donald trump is flying into here today before he takes the stage here, just outside of washington d.c.. >> really quick, next time we have to go, but i thought i saw something with marjorie taylor greene on it, is there are marjorie taylor greene had in there? >> do you have marjorie taylor greene had in the? >> yes i do. >> look at your eye. >> we also have a greg abbott hat, there you go. i actually donated 600 of these have to marjorie's campaign. >> two people come asking for marjorie taylor greene? >> yes they. do >> i think about getting more here? a manufacturing more of those. >> also thinking of getting. >> boy is just a whole bunch of candidates, i made the can for

lauren boebert. i made caps for several different candidates that didn't make it, like herschel walker. i made caps for, let's say -- way we're gonna be coming in visit you months ahead here, right, you give us good perspective. ron, thank you very much. >> alex? >> very good, pick one out my, friend i'll buy it for your for your birthday. >> we'll see interest with both. >> it can, see you, i mean time everybody, desperate and disasters the words used this week to describe one republican search for a deep state whistleblower, and close call. a realistic look at what almost happened, and what can be done to make it stop. the latest in a number of recent near misses.

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about the work of the republican-led weaponization subcommittee. house democrats, and a new report, blowing the whistle on gop whistleblowers, challenging

their credibility and labeling them, conspiracy theorists. january six sympathizers. nbc's emily circuit is joining us -- julie, what are you hearing today about the support, how are republicans reacting? >> well, alex, they're reacting by plotting their next hearing. next week, they're going to have a hearing on the twitter files, examining so-called, collusion in their words, between big tech and the executive branch. but democrats lay out, in this 300 plus-page report, that behind closed doors, these witnesses that the panel has been interviewing, are nothing more than conspiracy theorists. basically arms of a propaganda machine for republicans to then prop up in these public hearings and try to prove that this is a weaponization of the government against conservatives. take a listen to what one member had to say to our own jonathan capehart, last night. watch. >> this is the tinfoil hat committee, there is nothing. here they are trying to do

whatever they can to lay the groundwork for donald trump to come back to the white house, these are trump loyalists. the only reason, jonathan, that the subcommittee was formed was so that kevin mccarthy could become speaker. this is the deal that he made to have jim jordan on his side, and a -- there's many times that they sought to get a speaker even after all the deals that they cut and they gave away basically everything, but the kitchen sink. they're trying to find some way to prove something that is not really happened and that's really what i think the american people are, saying that's why it's been you know, a dad. >> alex, if you're something a theme here, you're not alone, because look, this is all part of those concessions that speaker mccarthy had made to the hard right of his party. jim jordan, included in that, of course, he's a supporter of mccarthy's, but he's also a very close ally of the former president. colin allred went on to talk about the taxpayer funding money that is being used to run

this investigative committee. the first hearing of which we heard from three weeks ago, and their star witnesses on the republican side, where two republican senators, chuck, and ron johnson who are investigating to hunter biden, and other dealings of the biden administration as well as a former fbi employee, who is also a fox news contributor. >> it is so interesting, julie tsirkin, thank you for that, if that is a perfectly to continue the conversation. i'm joined now by massachusetts congressman, jake auchincloss, -- as well as the transportation and infrastructure committees. welcome back to the broadcast. i'm curious, your reaction, sir, to the weaponization communities approach for these alleged whistleblowers that they've interviewed. what a case do republicans even think they have here? >> well, i can't get underneath the tinfoil had to get inside their brains and figure that out. what i will say is that we 100% do have weaponization threat in

this country, it's just 100% not from where the republicans think it is. right now, in washington d.c., there is a think tank called the america first foundation. the america first foundation is basically a maga white house in waiting. right now, they've got lobbyists and lawyers who are working on how they can erode the independents of civil servants, and schedule of. how they can break down the firewall between the white house, and the department of justice. how they can undermine civil military relations, basically all the tools donald trump or she had in 2016, they're going to make sure that that playbook is available to the next maggot president. that, is what we need to be concerned about. >> yeah, i'd say so. we'll have a conversation on that in earnest. but right now, let's turn to the china committee's first primetime hearing that was held this week. here's something so that you had said during that meeting. take a listen. >> the resilience of our democracy is up to us, yes, the kremlin and the ccp have --

but also, in the past two, years of the world watched as an american president summoned the mob to overturn a free and fair election, and kill officers of the law. january 6th, 2021, with xi jinping's best day in office. i hope the bipartisan spirit of competing with the chinese communist party overseas extends to defending democracy here at home. >> now you, know china's foreign ministry was listening and calling this heron this the cold war mentality, i'm curious your response to that. i'm you confident that this bipartisan spirit of focusing on china will remain? >> it needs to because we're facing a generational challenge here in competition with the chinese communist party. the ccp does not respect the value inherent to an individual, they think people are pounds of the state, and the united states was founded on self evident truths on freedom, democracy, and speak peoples inalienable rights.

those are not self actually lading truths we, have to defend them here at home before we promote a champion overseas, and the message i want to send to my colleagues both on and off the committee and the gop is that you cannot go out and say that we're going to have a values base competition with the chinese communist party, if you are not defending those very same values here at home. january 6th, obviously, sets us back there, but so does the weaponization subcommittee. all of that is busy doing the ccpcs job for it. >> i know you just returned from taiwan, so let's take a look at some recent video that we obtained, nbc news got rare access inside a u.s. navy mission over the south china sea when they spotted this chinese fighter jet. look at that, right beside them. apparently they threw alongside for the better part of an hour, how dangerous is this situation today with china, what does taiwan need from the u.s. right now? >> it's dangerous, the peoples liberation army is not doing a

great zone in persians on basically an hourly basis, it used to be a rare event, they are now violating taiwan's airspace regularly it's wearing gone taiwanese. it just underscores the need for us to exit a foreign military sales for them and to continue officer to officer military training because those two things in concert sending them the weapon the material they need and making sure they're trying to use them in a defense strategy should be critical in the cost-benefit analysis for she jinping. it's not just military though, i want to emphasize that. i think a real threat is a one-two punch of energy blocked kade plus disinformation campaign, right now taiwan only has about 2 to 3 weeks of energy reserves on the island, the people's liberation army is navy code blockade time on sports, if 68 their energy supplies, and then be pumping in disinformation and propaganda to the island, try

to engineer a coup from the outside and. i actually think that's a more likely near term threat than an amphibious invasion. but we have to be working with taiwan on both fronts. >> yeah, that is very sobering, let me get something as also sobering back here at home. investigations with -- airplane collisions in the last few months. two planes came within 100 feet of each other in austin's. airport let's check out on video recreation those based on the flight data. so the southwest flight is taking off, while a fedex plane is about to land. what is happening lately, and how concerned are you. i mean, what is causing these near misses. is your committee gonna look into them? >> yes, when you sit down in the passenger seat of an airplane, and you buckle in your seatbelt, you deserve to feel safe, and now that the faa, the pilot, the airline, or exercising supreme caution in the utmost safety measures. it seems that spring at the

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of massive election fraud, his deposition prompted strong review from trump loyalists, steve bannon. >> show us what the bunch of foreigners of given, as what have they given this country, nothing, they don't respect, you read the depositions. the deposition they have a fear, a loading, and contempt for you, and you are the ones that are going to make changes, and nolan murdoch lawyer at, it no more softball interviews and no more infomercials, okay, played straight. you play it straight, donald trump's gonna win the primary, and donald trump is going to run the presidents are. [applause] >> okay, joining me now, jeremy peters report of the new york times and charles gorman, former new york prosecutor, not civil rights lawyer and msnbc legal analyst. that is a, jeremy, i was told you are kind of laughing at all of that, and fighting words from steve bannon. how are you surprised me the backlash, if at all, and what are the most striking

revelations in the testimony that have been revealed so far? >> so, i think fox news, it was a surprise a lot of people to learn has always been viewed somewhat skeptically, especially in the last 56 years or so by donald trump's base, trump has attacked them, as we've seen time and time again, whoever trump attacks, and calls a rhino, a republican name only, that tends to stick, and the biggest threat to fox news as we've seen in the pages and pages of testimony, and evidence that's been released so far as they were terrified of losing the audience, because once they did the right journalistic thing, and said that donald trump would win, would lose arizona, and would lose the presidency, the audience revolted because trump revolted. so what you have here is evidence that points to a pretty reckless attempt to

pursue ratings and profits over journalism. and it's pretty remarkable, actually, when you look at all of this. the bottom line, among fox executives post producers, is how do we get our audience back? the way that they got their audience, backed opinion hopes to prove in court, it is by knowingly lying to them. >> while, and to your point, we don't rupert murdoch's deposition they talked about recently -- my pillow ceo on the air, was because of what he was paying them. it was not a matter of better blue, it is a matter of green, as in the almighty dollar. he was getting paid money, he was helping to fund the network. let me ask you -- this is a news on the first amendment, dominion is trying to publicly smear fox for covering and commenting on the allegations on the sitting president in the united states, big picture given everything we know is that a viable defense?

>> it, isn't it's a stretch at best of what the first amendment is attended to do, alex. your intent gained by people who knowingly spotted lies that them selves did not want to believe. that's one of the things that is important about the deposition testimony we're learning more and more of that even they did not -- it be one thing there would be one sincerely held believe if you actually had a basis for going and putting it out to the. public the fact that privately they would discuss these theories, that they would tell each other, that these things have no basis, and then go on the air really does undercut the and notion of first amendment free speech theory around this case. it also takes away the fact that, listen, you are a news and entertainment organization. the standard they're gonna be very different in terms of how this process by the. court i don't see that as being very viable argument, i don't think it's going to go very

far. the january six highlighted the role of disinformation played in the attack on the capitol. let's watch just a little bit of that, here it is. >> a massive effort to spread false and fraudulent information. the stuff that is people who are shuttling out to the public who -- >> he said that people are voting. >> a combination of italians, germans, and even him who's venezuelan, even the philippi 's. >> indians are getting paid to vote. >> are you out of your effing mind, it was not. true >> he's become detached from reality. >> it was basic stuff. >> you know, chairman, you wrote about exchange from the court filings between tackle carlson and laura ingraham carlson calling sydney powell and not saying he had to try to make the white house disavow her, england buys quote, no serious lawyer could believe what they were saying, and then carlson brought back quote, but they said nothing in public. where the fox host worried about losing viewers, you've gone to that point. but my question is, why would

they present a different narrative in public to their viewers that they apparently didn't even believe. i mean i cannot believe i'm saying this but, to steve bannon have a point when he says those fox host don't respect their viewers? >> i think he's exactly right, i mean i don't want to give steve bannon too much credit here. but he's right, this has been one of the issues with conservative media broadly in the donald trump era. just like the republican party, they don't understand their viewers like the republican party doesn't understand it's voters. and so basically, they're at their mercy. what you see here in the text messages and emails that we now know exist through discovery of the dominion case, is there frantically trying to figure out what their audience believes. because, the executives on the

host, while most of them at, latest and the producers aren't maga people. there are not trump people, they're just using the trump base as part of their business model. and that's what's so interesting here about all of the revelations that we've seen over the last week or so. you start to realize that this isn't about journalism. it's not about telling people what is true. it's about telling them what they want to hear. and when a journalistic organization, or one that reports telling their audience, it's a really dangerous thing. >> yeah, from what you charles have seen so, far what's your assessment of fox's legal exposure? >> i think they have significant exposure, alex, i think that ultimately i don't know that this will go to trial, but i also don't believe that fox will not get out of this

without having to pay a pretty hefty. penny i don't think that it will be the billion that dominion is looking for. on the ghetto get to that rain. but i do think that in order to make this go, in order to solve this problem, fox is going to have to pay out a pretty penny instead of settling. what is a pretty damaging report, and a pretty damaging case that they have sitting here. the other side alex that i will say, is i really wonder openly rhetorically, how much of this actually matches with the viewership. because we've seen time and time again that many of the fox -- will turn around and say stuff like, you never know who to believe, or i don't really watch the news, or they'll make excuses to keep going back to hearing the things that they want to. here i wonder, in the grand scheme of things, will this really make a difference? >> i don't know, if you find out let me know because i can't figure it out myself. anyway guys, good to see both, jermaine, charles thank you. breaking news next, a remarkable protest scene in tel aviv, israel. new proof the ripple effects are more like waves from the

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these protesters, of the site, are out on the streets for a ninth week in the road to protest against this proposed law by israeli prime minister, benjamin yet in yahoo. his new right-wing government that would weaken israel supreme court. it would make it so that if the supreme court struck down an action by the israeli government, israel's parliament could override the supreme court with a simple majority, and protesters here, they're chanting democracy right now, are warning that if this law goes through, it is potentially a fatal blow to israel's democracy. they say it would center a dangerous amounts of power in the hands of prime minister benjamin young yahoo, who, alex of course is on a trial as we speak for criminal corruption charges. many of the protesters here believe that ultimately, this law is about trying, netanyahu trying to get out from

underneath these criminal charges that he's facing. the prime minister, of course, strongly denies that. he says these laws are necessary reforms to curb what he says, are activist judges standing in the way of israel's democratically elected government. and it is worth saying that there are large crowds out on the street of tel aviv and jerusalem tonight, the prime minister did mention this proposal when he went to the elections in november. and he won a landslide in those elections. he will tell you that he has a democratic mandate push through these performs. these protesters are stronger. that and the biden ministration is also concerned about this u.s. ambassador initial, urging the prime minister to pump the brakes, as he, says alex? >> okay, those folks out there soon pretty riled up. there are a lot of them, we'll see what happens with this. one thank you so much rough, for. that call it a long tease, it

is milking for what it's worth, all of what it's worth, what is really going to happen with those 44,000 hours of video from january 6th, and i the only person who's been allowed to see them has released a single frame, yet.

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really really dangerous, and anyone will get to see the thousands of hours of surveillance footage from january 6th, which has been hidden from the public for two years as a tiny group of people gets to make up stories about what happened but today and change the country on the basis of those stories. they are lying. and we know that, because we've been looking at the tape. we're gonna bring you information on the tape, and some of it next week. we think it's going to be really, really interesting. >> new concerns this weekend as -- gender six attack being on bail. the fox news's tucker carlson there said to air the video early next week after being given that exclusive access from house speaker, kevin

mccarthy. joining me now is -- senior buzzer for the rent lincoln project, and former gop congressional communications doctor, along with katie hill, former democratic congresswoman of california, good to see you both. ladies, tara, you first. after carlson got these 44,000 hours of video, has his t's given you the impression there is a specific story he is looking to tell, and what he chooses to show and if so, how concerned are you? >> absolutely. there's a narrative here. they've been laying this out for two years. you still hear people, in the fox news orbit, and supporters and watchers that claim is antifa, but claimed it was somehow an inside job. top across in himself put out a quote, documentary, which was full of conspiracy theories about january six. he's made ashli babbitt into a martyr calling her death a murder when it was not, it was a legitimate shooting by capitol police officer protecting the speakers lobby

during a violent insurrection led by donald trump's incitement against the capitol. this has all been about tucker carlson energizing the radical base. carlson is not a journalist, fox jews is not a news organization. tucker carlson is the headmaster of the conspiracy theory cause play group there, qanon not cases, thank you things like january 6th as a way to preserve a there's holy war they have. all this does is radicalized them further. and my fear is that as he continues to try to plant seeds of doubt, and of conspiracy theory against the government about what happened on january six, we all saw it with our own eyes, this just radicalize is the four there. i don't know who's held to account for it. kevin mccarthy, shame on him for engaging in the bargain that were engaging in. that's the bottom line this is

about jim jordan, matt gates, and the rest of the markets were threatening his speakership in this is a way to buy them off. >> so kate's been nodding to, this is my question to you then, katie, given your understanding to how congress could work, how can congress effectively combat democrats particular, whatever narrative gets put out there? >> i think we're gonna have to combat it with real information and reminding people that this is what happened, we did see it with our own eyes. but the reality is that this is, you know, the republican party used to be the one of national security, right? and this is giving dangerous access and information to foreign adversary or anyone who wants to talk the center of american democracy. this is an absolute disgrace that he's putting the lives of his colleagues. he's just putting our entire institution at risk by doing this. i think that it's going to be very hard to combat it once this is out there, once this information is out there. >> yet, we're gonna be watching

closely to see what does get put out. that meantime, i want to talk about walgreens, which feels it's no longer going to distribute the abortion pills in multiple states, even where it is illegal. it comes after 20 republican state attorney general sent that letter to walgreens last month, threatening legal action if it dispenses the drug. those a.g.'s also sent letters to cbs, rite aid, costco, and walmart. katie, what is your reaction to that. a mes sacked, and how concerned are you that any other companies are going to follow suit. >> i think it's very likely to follow the suit. they're dealing with an actual risk to, of lawsuits and legal challenges and, frankly, just a headache that they don't want to have. so, it's really important for us to get the information out of that women can still access these pills. there are a lot of different ways to do, it will, not a lot but enough, and my organization, her time, put together a resource guide in -- if you go to her dash time dot com slash resources, that gives

people all the information to access abortion pills through mail, and others. but, you know, i would encourage everybody to influence with their wallets and choose to go to a different pharmacy than walgreens right now. >> yeah, we'll get to know about her time there. let's move to cpac, it's the final day of the conservative political action conference, former president trump is the headline speaker. other attendees include nikki haley, marjorie taylor, greene lauren boebert and alike. but some notable republicans are not going including rhonda sanchez, mike pence, mitch mcconnell, glenn youngkin. tara, looking at who's there and who's not there, what does it tell you about what this event has turned into, and how much does it reflect where the overall party is? >> well, it's clear that cpac has become the margo pack an. france's been dominated by trumpism for years now. these are the people who vote, and the fact that you have ron desantis running scared and afraid to show up at cpac, and

mike pence, well, i guess he should be afraid because of the sentiments that a lot of the people at cpac have about mike pence, and january six. it's no secret that there is in internists-ing civil warfare about to explode inside the republican party. we've been watching this happen for quite some time. the establishment, or the quote, normies, which i feel there aren't many left, if any, and trump. trump is still dominating the republican party. you may have had a bunch of those folks like desantis, and pants, and i believe jan can down at the palm beach club for growth, but she establishment type of organization event this weekend encounter event to cpac. they may think the establishment may think that they have a chance of taking trump out, again, but this is reminiscent of what happened in 2015, and 16. they can hang out with the elitist country club or republican crowd, the big donor crowd, but the people at cpac, that is the voter base. those are the people who vote,

and they are 100% for donald trump, 100% behind the election denying, the democracy denying, and the illiberalism in the authoritarian march of the republican party. so this is going to be quite a fight over the next year or so as we head into 2024, we also how it ended up last time. >> buckle up, ladies turn, katie thank you so much. the fbi dispute over mar-a-lago, a new report to drop this week i'll talk with somebody who says they have havana syndrome. what does she would think of this week's report saying it was not a foreign actor. a foreign actor. ess' payroll taxes will calculate themselves. right? uhh...nope. intuit quickbooks helps you manage your payroll taxes, cheers! with 100% accurate tax calculations guaranteed. (vo) if you've had thyroid eye disease for years and you go through artificial tears in the blink of an eye, cheers! it's not too late for another treatment option. to learn more visit treatted.com.

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