hey everybody. good afternoon. i'm yasmin decision. a new look for alex murdaugh as he begins the consecutive life sentences for killing his wife and son. also, right now the most extreme republicans in the party gathering for the annual cpac conference. what we are hearing already is pretty disturbing. >> when i said, i don't know it sort of weird that pennsylvania managed to elect a vegetable,

they criticize me as being ableist. >> wokeness is a virus more dangerous than any pandemic hands down. >> i am going to be introducing my bill, the protect children's innocence act, that will make it a felony to perform anything to do with gender affirming care on children. >> we either get this government back on our side or we defund and get rid of, abolish, the fbi, cdc, atf. doj, every last one of them. >> all right, plus this hour, president biden gets his first democratic challenger of the 2020 presidential race and he has even said he is definitely running it. we are following the backlash from a major decision by walgreens that will keep the abortion pill away from millions of women across this country. and then, next hour a heartwarming story. and april boy who went above and beyond to help out the wager at his favorite

restaurant, in an effort that has gone far beyond what either of them imagined. i will speak to kids in martin and devoun take gardiner ahead today, as well. we begin though, with that first president photo of convicted murderer alec murdaugh looking almost unrecognizable. his mugshot showing him wearing a yellow president jumpsuit and donning a shaved head. it is part of the prison intake system. and, it was taken just hours after murdaugh was sentenced to two consecutive life sentences for the murders of his son and wife. want to go straight to priscilla thompson with more on the convicted killer's new reality ahead. >> well, alex murdaugh spent his first night of that life sentence here at the kirkland reception and evaluation center. he is expected to remain here for about 45 days, according to the department of corrections, as they evaluate his mental health. they will also be giving him a medical test and an education assessment. and the results of which will be used to determine which

maximum security prison he will ultimately end up with. of course, officials also taking into consideration his sentence and that crime of murder which he was convicted of. now murdaugh maintains that he is innocent. we heard him saying that in court yesterday he continues to say that. and, for now no family or friends will be allowed in to visit him except of course for his attorney. they already said that they do intend to appeal this conviction. they have said that they plan to do that based on the fact that the financial crimes were allowed into this case. it's something that they say jurors never should have heard about. but, we are also hearing from some of those jurors in the days since this verdict was handed down. one of them saying that it was not the financial crimes that led them to you convict murdaugh, but rather that snapchat video that was shot by murdaugh's late son paul in which you hear murdaugh in the background of that video after the elder murdaugh had told

officials that he had not been anywhere near that kennel and feed area when this murder happened. and so jurors are saying that that was really the key piece of evidence that allowed them to make that decision. they are also saying that they deliberated for around 45 minutes before making that decision. so that is some of the state at play as murdaugh we can start life sentence. and of course, is set to face additional charges and head to court for his financial crimes as well. back to you. >> all right, thank you to priscilla thompson for that. want to bring in msnbc legal analyst danny solace. we disservice a talk about how quickly it is that they came to this decision. from adjournment to when they said it there was a decision it was about three hours. although it seems like what happened in that room took all of about 45 minutes. let's take a bit of a listen to one of the jurors that was interviewed, and then we will talk. >> we it was to not guilty.

one not sure. and nine guilty. >> what was your vote? >> guilty. >> we started deliberating, going through the evidence. everybody was pretty much talking. and, about 45 minutes later after all are deliberating, we figured it out. >> jenny, what do you make of how quick that turnaround was, and also how you had teachers walk in there with not guilty on their minds and were able to be flipped within 45 minutes. >> first, i remember this i love this rare look inside a jury room because i don't ever get to go in. their lawyers never get to go. in most of the time we get kicked off of jury duty, so this is always exciting to find it what they talk about. and i'm not surprised here. i'm not surprised that there were two holdouts for not

guilty. and i've been really holdouts because they were open to being persuaded. in talking to people, i found a lot of people who generally thought that the theory that murdaugh killed his wife and son to get sympathy and avoid prosecution for financial fraud, they found that hard to swallow. and that was a misstep by the state because it was the state that introduce that evidence. it was overkill by them. and it almost cost them this conviction. so i am not surprised that there were one or two holdouts. i'm also not surprised that they were eventually convinced by their fellow jurors. and if it was that number, and that is what i thought it might be given that period of time that they took, i expect that there would be a minority that had to be convinced and that was open to being convinced. and they were. they got the unanimity niche he relatively quickly. >> and then there is whatever put them over the edge. we are priscilla dock about this already. it was the snapchat video. you and i talked about this a lot of the last week. how do you explain away the

snapchat video and the different takes from the prosecution and the defense on the start of video and why he lied about being there in the first place. . you know zone attorneys craig melvin, they didn't really know how to explain that away. take a listen. >> how damning was the lie about the kennel video? >> damning. >> extremely. >> we were talking about, jim and i were getting prepared for five months ago and we were looking for a way to get around what we called it the lie. every time we referred to it was the lie. i had to get around it, how do you explain it? and apparently didn't. >> it is also really interesting to me to go inside the minds of a defense attorney. and i know you are living in the mind of a defense attorney. because that is what you embody. but, nonetheless, hearing even

from them that they really didn't know how to deal with this. had to explain away the fact that he lied. they kind of knew it may very well sink them. >> oh, i've been there yasmin. defense attorneys don't get a pick their facts. prosecutors put their facts, the ones they take to an indictment and edge grandeur. but defense attorneys, we take the fact that we are given. and they're not always good. and this is a classic example of some bad backs that you had to contend with. why this took us into the twilight zone is that the states evidence put the lie to it murdaugh to long forsman. so his fix for that was taking the stand and telling the jury, oh, my explanation is i lied. so that was always gonna be damaging. what do you have been convicted, we have not taking the stand? i think. so people tend to be that forever. but i think the evidence was there and they had plenty of evidence of his dishonesty without him taking the stand. and essentially establishing that he is in fact dishonest. >> everybody, just of all is

taking around so don't get that yet. i've got some more questions for you, danny. on a very different murdoch case. let's talk weather for a moment, everybody. spring maybe just a few weeks away but deadly winter storms are rolling across the united states this weekend. from the midwest, to the northeast. several inches of snow falling overnight with new england forecasted to take the worst of that. with some ten inches expected. when you are moving down to the south, at least ten people have died in a separate storm that brought flooding conditions and hurricane-force winds. at least four of those deaths coming from large trees falling. several hundred thousand remaining without power, primarily in tennessee, alabama, kentucky as well. where governor andrew scheer has declared a state of emergency. and then, out west in southern california, emergency workers, volunteers. working to help dozens of people dealing with the aftermath of that historic blizzard. areas in san bernardino county getting as much as ten feet of

snow this week. and, take a look at this stunning image. join one a california man's desperate pleas for help written into the snow. officials have warned that residents could be stranded for several more days while crews are working on ongoing rescue efforts. we have some breaking news that we have been following. the top republican on the so-called weaponization of the federal government committee, has released a new statement. democrats on the committee but a detailed report that exposure witnesses fringe views. i want to bring in nbc's julia circuit from capitol hill with more on this. democrats released 316-page report to get ahead of republicans and what they thought were going to be leaks from the gop. really detailing that testimony of these three individuals, specifically. you talk us through what we are hearing from jim jordan and more republican response to all of this. >> yeah, yasmin. that's. right as spokes person russell

dies giving us a new statement, in and he says, quote, it is beyond disappointing but sadly not surprising that democrats would leak cherry-picked excerpts of testimony to attack the whistleblower. ceci that statement on your screen, who risked their careers to speak out on abuses of the justice department and fbi. he goes on to actually characterize democrats as partisan. attacking them for not working or cooperating with republicans on this investigation. but, let's zoom out here. because jim jordan is the chairman of this panel. he is also the chairman of the judiciary committee. in the first hearing they held on the weaponization of the federal government in which they are trying to explore potentially whether the government had biased against conservatives online, on twitter, in the classroom. and in other mothers. they held this hearing three weeks ago in which their star manager witnesses were actually senate republicans, chuck grassley and ron johnson. and also, a former fbi employee who is now a fox news

contributor. and this back and forth that we are seeing that between democrats and republicans was largely how that hearing played out. i want you to take a listen to hat what stacey plaskett had to say today an msnbc. remember, she's a top democrat on this one is an-ization subcommittee. watch. >> it is shameful that jim jordan is using -- down on this when there are real things that we could be looking at. one, we look at bill barr and how he weaponize the federal government when he was at the head of doj. one, we looked at individual special agents, fbi special agents, that have recently come to light that we're using fbi for conservative movements. how about the irs? disproportionately audience-ing african american families, working class families. >> well i can tell you, jasmine, that is not what this committee plans to look into. in fact, they are already plotting the next hearing looking into twitter viral's. they are going to try to establish a link between big tech and the government. essentially trying to silence

and censor conservatives off of their platform. but, look, in this report democrats are saying we had access to so far the three witnesses. this committee interviewed them behind closed doors. this is three of thousands of whistleblowers that jordan claims to have. and they say that these folks, not only didn't establish this like the georgia is trying to prove, but they actually peddled conspiracy theories about january 6th, about covid, about even the holocaust and nazism. so, a lot of things to examine here and breakdown. but this committee so far, plotting ahead with their next moves regardless. >> julia tsirkin for us. thank. you by the way, we are going to die people or into the republicans weaponization committee with congressman an oversight committee member russia christina. that is coming up on msnbc. you don't want to miss that conversation. okay, four final days at cpac, well underway just outside of washington. we are looking at live pictures here. former brazilian president

bolsonaro just taking the stage. tulsi gabbard just completed her speech as well. but the speaker most attendees have really been waiting for is still coming up. do you want to bet you that is? former president donald trump said to get the keynote address in just a few hours. nbc's news is lauren hillyard is right there. i'm going to bet ron, even the last few days, i'm good about today is the biggest days. because the number one person they have all been waiting for is arriving in just a couple of hours to give the ever waited speech at cpap. as the headliner. take us through it. >> right, yasmin. of a question here in 2023 with not only nikki haley but challenges to donald trump, whether there would be some defections among this maga grassroots conservative base here. and i've got to tell, you based on the conversations that i have had with dozens of the folks here in attendance, it has been quite clear that this is very much a pro trump crowd. and ahead of the final major

speech here tonight, that being donald trump, there's a lot of anticipation among this crowd especially when you look at polling. there is going to be a reality that all of these potential challengers face. that is that donald trump still has a strong willed on this republican party. and they are going to have to do a lot more to crack into that. take a listen to a couple of folks we talked to. take a listen to a couple of folks we talked to >> who do you got in 2024? >> donald trump. >> trump. >> yes. >> solid, clear. >> you have. not because i don't think there aren't some other qualified candidates, but i do think he has the opportunity to fix some of the things that are worth fixing, and repeal some of the things that are worth repealing. >> i like what nikki haley at the same yesterday. she had some points. i'm just being honest. i'm not saying -- i don't think she has what it takes. i think when you go started out with trump, she's going to lose. >> you set it. former brazilian president, shareable tomorrow, is now here.

of course, he lost his election bid and ultimately, came to the united states after losing. he's been unable to concede that he lost the presidential election is essentially finding refuge in the united states. yasmin? >> yeah. amongst republican parties at cpac. vaughn hillyard there for us. thanks, sir. then, and the mission by realtime millionaire rupert murdoch's lead to potential new trouble for fox news, stemming from the dominion defamation lawsuit. , now a new agency it's looking into the networks actions, plus, the beginning of the end? walgreens now refusing to sell the abortion pill, even in states where it is legal. is there anything pro abortion rights groups, abortion rights groups, i should say, can do? we'll be right back. ight back. (screaming) defeat allergy headaches fast with new flonase headache and allergy relief! two pills relieve allergy headache pain? and the congestion that causes it!

flonase headache and allergy relief. psst! psst! all good! >> welcome back, everybody.

the president had a cancerous lesion removed from his chest during his physical last month. that revelation coming from the president's doctor late friday, dr. kevin o'connor, saying the biopsy confirmed it was basal cell carcinoma, a common and relatively unaddressed form of skin cancer. dr. o'connor said all the cancerous tissue was successfully removed. a major setback in efforts to ensure women can access mifepristone, the drug in medication abortions. from a cynical giant walgreens announcing they are going to stop selling this abortion bill

in several republican controlled states, including some states where abortion is fully legal. it is all due to this pressure from gop state attorney generals, backed by opponents of abortion rights. this would have an obvious major impact, on millions of women, as abortion pills have become increasingly crucial, especially since the overturn of roe. they now account for more than half of all abortion procedures in this country. joining me that was melissa fowler, chief program officer of the national abortion federation. melissa, thank you for joining us. i have to say, this story, to meet, when it popped up, is totally shocking. it's shocking mostly because i don't understand how walgreens would stop selling mifepristone in the states in which abortion is legal, just by threats by the state attorney general. i don't understand how they have any legal ground to stand on. >> well, we're definitely

seeing a backlash to this decision. people are outraged that walgreens has caved to pressure from a small group of antiabortion politicians. this reaction and pat last is not surprising. we know, according to recent polling, that nearly two thirds of voters think pharmacies like walgreens and cvs should fill prescriptions for the medications that are used in medication abortion care. that same amount of voters think abortion should be legal in this country. inflatable tickle climates, hard to imagine getting two thirds of voters to agree on anything, and they do agree on this issue. we heard that message loud and clear in the midterm elections, when abortion was on the ballots in states across the country, voters sent an overwhelming message. it doesn't seem like these politicians have gotten it. they are not giving up overturning roe v. wade and putting the faith aside. they are working every angle they can to ban all abortion, even in the places and states that have proactively protected it. >> so, that two major questions

out of that are how is this going to affect millions of women across this country, right? that banning of this abortion pill? and being distributed from walgreens, specifically, for now, by the way? what can groups like yours do you about it? >> so, medication abortion is still available. we're working with our providers across the country. walgreens and cvs were preparing to be able to fill those prescriptions, so right, now people can still access care abortion providers across the country, where abortion is safe and legal, and while many groups are protesting, calling for boycotts, for people who want to fight back, we need to think about the bigger picture and the bigger issues of abortion access, and we now live in a country where millions of people can't access the care they need and tough to travel to other states. so, for people who want to do something, i would encourage them to reach out to a local abortion provider and see how they could be helpful, patient

assistance funds likely one of the national abortion hotline, which would lead directly to helping people travel and overcome barriers like this to access care. >> so, with all this, though, we are waiting this text decision that could feasibly ban mifepristone across all 50 states. i know and anti abortion group sued the fda, and we're still awaiting this decision, if it comes through. what, that? >> we have been working with providers across the country to be ready. there are other safe, effective regiments to providing medication a proportion that had been frightened around the world, and our providers will continue to provide that care where abortion remains illegal. so, it's not the end of medication abortion, but it is important to recognize this as and effort that is part of a bigger strategy. to really banned abortion nationwide. >> i just got to say, i traveled with 20 women from texas to new mexico after the six-week abortion ban was put into place.

this is before the overturn of roe. i saw firsthand women receiving mifepristone at this new mexico and abortion clinic. it was that easy for them to take, especially women below 12 weeks, one woman, i believe, was at nine weeks of pregnancy, and took this abortion pill. so, you think about the access, really, that this provides, especially for those disenfranchised young women that's our black and brown in this country, that don't have other means to seek out abortion services. >> absolutely. we know medication abortion accounts for more than half the procedures today. people should be able to choose the option that makes the most sense for their life, that fits with their schedule, the care that they want. we know people often to choose medication abortion, and we're doing everything we can to keep the athens available option. it is safe and effective, and it's been provided for decades. it should remain fda approved. >> melissa fowler, thank you.

appreciate it. we're following some breaking news, everybody, out of maryland. a shocking images coming out of montgomery county, where a tanker truck crashed and overturned on route 15, leading to a large explosion. you can see some live video, it seems, taken by a passerby. maryland state police saying the driver of the tanker died in the crash. no injuries have so far been reported. we will continue to update the story for u.s. details are currently coming in. all right, coming up, everybody. -- es you have up to 4 times greater risk of stroke, heart attack, or death. even at your a1c goal, you're still at risk ...which if ignored could bring you here... ...may put you in one of those... ...or even worse. too much? that's the point. get real about your risks and do something about it. talk to your health care provider about ways to lower your risk of stroke, heart attack, or death. learn more at getrealaboutdiabetes.com migraine hits hard, so u hit back with ubrelvy

u level up u won't take a time-out one dose of ubrelvy works fast it can quickly stop migraine in its tracks within 2 hours without worrying if it's too late or where you are unlike older medicines, ubrelvy is a pill that directly blocks a protein believed to be a cause of migraine. do not take with strong cyp3a4 inhibitors. most common side effects were nausea and tiredness. migraine pain relief starts with u learn how abbvie could help you save. ask about ubrelvy, the anytime, anywhere migraine medicine. this is a bombas performance sock. for such a small item it performs big in so many ways. big on comfort. big on durability. big on breathability. bombas gives you big comfort for all your athletic pursuits. ♪♪

♪♪ get $1500 purchase allowance on a 2023 cadillac xt5 and xt6. ♪♪ visit your local cadillac dealer today. this man needs updated covid protection. so does she. yup, these guys too. because covid is still out there, and so are you. and if your last vaccine was before september 2022, you're out there with fading protection. but an updated vaccine restores your protection. so you can keep doing you. get an updated covid vaccine and stay out there, safely.

next on behind the series...

that performance was legendary. they just piled it on. roast beef, ham, oven roasted turkey. all on the subway club. three peat - that's great. three meat - that's epic. the subway series. the greatest menu of all time. ♪♪ inner voice (kombucha brewer): if i just stare at these payroll forms... my business' payroll taxes will calculate themselves. right? uhh...nope. intuit quickbooks helps you manage your payroll taxes, cheers! with 100% accurate tax calculations guaranteed. >> welcome back. breaking news. we continue to follow out of maryland, at least one person is dead in a major crash involving a gasoline tanker in montgomery county. that tanker truck crashed and overturned about 15, leading to a large explosion seen by many residents in this surrounding area. maryland state police saying the driver of the tanker died in the crash. no other injuries have been reported so far.

we're expecting a news conference at the top of the hour, where we hope to learn more details about this crash. we're going to be monitoring that news conference than any other new developments on this road. we'll bring it to you as we become. the democratic party officially has its first candidate for president in 2024. it is not joe biden. right now, marianne williamson announcing her candidacy and events in washington d.c.. the author and spiritual adviser for -- 2020 but dropped out before the primaries. i want to bring in lindsey lee, a member of the dnc's national finance committee, as well as msnbc political analyst and republican strategist percio as well. welcome to you guys as well, thank you for joining us. let me start with you on this one, and i'm wondering if you feel as if because of this announcement now coming on from marianne williamson that it will kind of put biden in the hot seat the, president in the hot seat. to officially announce he is running for reelection? >> thank you so much for having

me. i don't consider marianne williamson to be much of a threat. she is a spiritual adviser and a 2020 -- two might not even make the debate stage, let's be honest. i think the best way to handle her is not to address her at all. i don't think many people consider her to be a major democrat, and age is a concern for some for biden, but she is 70 years old. she doesn't exactly represent a new generation of leadership, either. she has no platform to speak of other than some nebulous department of peace. so, she's not a threat to biden. and i think many democrats are rallying behind the president. he -- has been able to overcome historic headwinds like high inflation, but historical trends against the party in the white house. he has passed tremendous legislation like the inflation reduction act and the bipartisan infrastructure bill. so, democrats are saying, let him have a second chance. the stakes are so high. we cannot afford another four years of trump. >> susan, so with this news, of

course, we have to talk cpac as well. you just spoke with vaughn hillyard at the top of the show. i don't know if the story is more about who is at cpac or who is not. we're calling it really, t pack instead because the headliner being the former president of the united states. some major players in the republican party are not there. we're talking about governor ron desantis, virginia governor glenn youngkin, ronna mcdaniel, former vice president, mike pence, not there as well. what do you make of this split, and what this says, really, about the possibility of trump's waning popularity? >> well, you know, six years ago, kellyanne conway said that cpac is going to become t pack. she was right. it really did. this is donald trump's show. so, i do give nikki haley as the only other announced candidate seeking the republican nomination for

president for showing up. i understand why the others didn't, but what's interesting is that the leadership, when it comes to being a presidential candidate versus being the establishment, especially when it comes to speaker mccarthy, not showing up. that is really telling in the -- when we find out what the value of cpac's, which has now become just a kind of trump gathering, if you will. it used to be more conservative principles or discussed, ideas, disagreements happened. but they were about policy. then, it took a little libertarian bent during the wrongful years. now, it's nothing more than a trump show. >> wondering if part of the conservative principles is the discussion of while, because it seems like that has popped up a lot over the last four days or so. let's play a little bit of that, susan, and then we'll talk. >> all this woke, transgender

athletes, see our t, 60 19, we don't teach reading or writing and arithmetic anymore. half the kids in this country, when they graduate, can't read their diploma. >> well this with a virus more dangerous than any pandemic, hands down. >> oh think we have to spend four or five days asking the chinese spy balloon what its pronouns were before we were willing to shoot down! >> they really know how to brands them selves, and what their crowd, susan, wants to hear. >> except no one can defined wokeness in the republican party! there's actually been stories on this! ask any of these candidates to define what wokeness is. what does it mean? they can't because it's just used as a bathing were, if they will, for hate! that's it! plain and simple. but when you look at the republicans but you just showed, you are talking about people who are finding a way to create

the us versus them. and that was the donald trump way. it was successfully political for donald trump, but it is just us versus them. >> lindy, nikki haley, she is in a tough spot. she really wants to thread this needle between i worked inside the trump administration but i want to separate myself from him and i am a better choice than he is. it seems as if she is now getting some flack for this needle she's threading, because she was certainly heckled a few times. let's take a little bit of a listen to the reaction in the crowd from her, and then i want to hear your reaction. [crowd chanting] [crowd chanting] >> nikki! >> that! >> lindy, what do you make of it? >> i think, frankly, she is

running to be vice president, not to be president. i think she knows she has no chance against trump and ron desantis, and it's so cringeworthy, watching her walk through cpac, taking selfies and trying to make small talk. there are people shouting, i love trump, right behind her. she has flip-flopped so many times, it's hard to take her seriously. i am an immigrant myself. she is the daughter of immigrants, and to hear her, the daughter of immigrants, expressed support for the confederate flag in the south, and south carolina's confederate history month? it's so incredibly alarming. i feel like she is a total sellout. just going back to what we said earlier about cpac, let's be clear what anti woke means. it's anti black. i think people are very reluctant to say it, but i don't mince any words. that's the truth. that's their way of sounding the dog whistle without being extremely explicit. let's also not ignore the fact that cpac is becoming a gathering of sexual predators. let's be honest. matt lap, the chairman, was

sued for $10 million for allegedly groping a male staffer on the herschel walker campaign. then, he shares the stage with jim jordan, who allegedly covered up sex crimes at ohio state, and then he was followed by matt gaetz, who was just investigated by the congress for evian sex trafficking, marjorie taylor greene was investigated for industry -- trying to block metal directors, and finally, tonight, we have trump, a serial rapist. so, this is the party that claims to be the party of christian family values, and i had nothing to say or do but laugh at that! >> i just want to be clear here, though, that it's important to put out there. we understand the accusations that have been made against, of course, the former president,

lindy, and of course who understand your passion in this topic as well. i want to be clear, of course, that none of that has actually run true, as of yet. they have all been accusations so far. when the lee, thank you. susan del percio, thank you as well. in -- a michigan man has been arrested for making a series of death threats against jewish government officials in the state. the fbi has not publicly identified the officials, but attorney general dana nessel confirming she was among those targeted, and investigation found that demand had several firearms and boxes of ammunition inside his vehicle. it is the latest incident in what has been a staggering rise in antisemitic rhetoric and violent in recent months and years. my colleague, jonathan capehart, spoke with that gentleman, doug emhoff. he is jewish. that is deeply troubling issue, as well as his historic role as the nation's first ever husband to a vice president. take a listen. iden t. >> it's really this speaking out about antisemitism and the violence and the hate.

that is so important. i feel the responsibility being in this role, being the first one, and i'm going to continue to lean in, speak up, speak out, and call out those who stay silent. there's so many cowards out there who know better. you know they know better. these so-called leaders who see it, and they don't say anything. that's just as bad. we need to change course so the administration, president, vice president, have stood up and inter agency task force. there are many, many aspects of the government working on a plan. we have a national plan to combat antisemitism and hate. >> can we talk about gender roles here? specifically, about you. you are the first second gentleman of the united states. what has that adjustment been like for you? >> first of all, i'm only here because the country elected kamala harris as vice president. i always think of that, first and foremost. i also think, first and foremost, i'm here is her husband.

i'm here to love her, to support her, and do everything i can to be there for her. that said, i really just pushed into the role. i've realized with this microphone, this platform, these issues such as gender equity, such as pushing against hate and antisemitism, speaking out for access to justice and all of these other things i'm able to do in this role, it's really pretty awesome. >> all right, my thanks to jonathan capehart. you can watch his full interview with a second gentleman the msnbc.com and a reminder you can catch jonathan every saturday and sunday get 9 am eastern, right here on msnbc. straight ahead, new information in an exclusive nbc news investigation that's prompting calls for action to protect children. next hour, the eight year old boy whose act of kindness for his favorite waiter has inspired everyone who has heard about it.

paradontax blood when you brush could lead to worse over time. help stop the clock on gum disease now. parodontax toothpaste... ...is 3x more effective at removing plaque bacteria, one of the main causes of bleeding gums. parodontax. the gum experts. (male announcer) important information for viewers age 50 to 85. have you thought about getting life insurance one of the main causes of bleeding gums. to help your family with funeral expenses, but worried it would cost too much or that you wouldn't qualify? at colonial penn, we talk to men and women like you every day. and today i'd like to share three questions they often ask

about our guaranteed whole life insurance. can i get this coverage on a fixed income? (jonathan) can you get this coverage on a fixed income? yes, you can. options start at $9.95 a month. that's less than 35 cents a day. and the good news is they won't ever increase. a lifetime rate lock guarantees it. i'm not in perfect health. can i get this coverage? (jonathan) can you get this coverage if you're not in perfect health? yes, you can. the truth is, you cannot be turned down for any reason. your acceptance is 100% guaranteed. we don't require a medical exam or ask a single health question. what if my health changes? can i keep this coverage? (jonathan) can you keep this coverage if your health changes? yes, you can. the peace of mind this insurance provides can be yours for life. just pay your premiums and the policy cannot be cancelled for any reason. now, there's one question i'd like to ask you. are you ready to take the next step and help protect those you love? call the number on your screen to learn more.

one prilosec otc each morning blocks heartburn all day and all night. prilosec otc reduces excess acid for 24 hours, blocking heartburn before it starts. one pill a day. 24 hours. zero heartburn. >> welcome back.

federal investigators now widening their probe into human smugglers, bringing migrant children and 13 into america to work dangerous jobs at the country's meatpacking plants. and bcc julie ames lee has been leading this nbc news investigation that's gotten more and more disturbing. >> it seems the problem of migrant children working in slaughterhouses across the country is even bigger than we first thought. we learn that last fall, labor investigators found nearly two dozen children working in a plant, cleaning slaughter houses in the middle of the night, in grand island, nebraska. then the labor department said there were actually 102 children working in certain different sites across eight states. now, what we're learning through to u.s. officials, is that dhs and the fbi are now investigating how migrant children wound up working in slaughterhouses for multiple companies across the country. the nets keeps getting wider.

these investigators are looking at how these children got to these jobs in the first place. they are following a paper trail, trying to determine how migrant children may have gotten the i.d.s to a passes american adults to walk into these plants in the first place. and if anyone is pressuring them to do so. investigators have spoken to, say, patterns in the past have indicated and other things that look like this, where you can have a smuggler bring a child to the united states, charge a parent a fee, and also charge them more in order to get the child's job. then, the child is stuck having to pay back the family and the smuggler, who brought them there. it's a really complicated system. it's a complicated task that these investigators have taken on. it's a giant web. right now, what we understand is the companies themselves are not at the heart of this investigation. it's not clear that they are targets or would be defendants in this investigation. rather, they are looking at what could be a human smuggling enterprise that has exploited these children and brought them into these incredibly dangerous jobs.

overall the, labor department says child labor in america is rising. over the past five years, it's been up over 70%, and they have nearly 600 open investigations into child labor violations going on right now. >> all right, our thanks to julie ainsley for that. nbc news exclusive reporting on the push to have the federal election committee investigate fox news's relationship with former president trump. that could land rupert murdoch in jail, and more ahead on the breaking news we're following in montgomery county, maryland. a tanker truck fire. state police say the driver of a truck is dead and no others are injured. news conference is expected shortly. stay with us. stay with us an architecture firm... and homemade barbeque sauce. they're called 'small businesses.' but to the people who build them there's nothing 'small' about them. that's why at t-mobile for business... you'll save more than $1,000 versus verizon. and with price lock guarantee, we'll never raise your rate plan. so you can keep your focus on toe-turns

and making sure the sauce is extra spicy. at t-mobile, there are no small businesses. ♪♪ after advil. let's dive in. but, what about your back? it's fine. before advil. advil, dual action bites, pain, two ways. advil targets pain at the source. acetaminophen blocks, pain signals, advil, dual action. if your business kept on employees through the pandemic, getrefunds.com can see if it may qualify for a payroll tax refund of up to $26,000 per employee. all it takes is eight minutes to get started. then work with professionals to assist your business with its forms and submit the application. go to getrefunds.com to learn more.

♪♪ allergies don't have to be scary. (screaming)

defeat allergy headaches fast with new flonase headache and allergy relief! two pills relieve allergy headache pain? and the congestion that causes it! flonase headache and allergy relief. psst! psst! all good! >> more fallout from fox news amidst the dominion voting systems defamation's case, according to new information exclusive shared with nbc news. the and citizens united pack, a group that pushes for campaign

finance reform, filed a complaint with the ftc arguing that fox corporation shareholder rupert murdoch broke the law when he shared joe biden's campaign ad and debate strategy with trump advisor, jared kushner. the exchange of confidential information was first made public in this new legal filing this week. media matters as also fired a similar complaints as well. joining me once again, msnbc legal analyst and defense attorney, jason -- and citizens united pack says the maximum penalty for something like this is up to five years in prison, and fines of 200% of the value of the contribution. what could murdaugh really be facing here? >> it's hard to say now, when i was concerned as soon as this news came out earlier in the week, i realize that like many did, this might be a problem because of the benefit that the network may have been giving to the party, directly contributing or affecting a campaign or candidacy or

something like that. so, there are real consequences for this. it's not the same as a criminal prosecution right now, but it could mature into that very quickly. >> and so much of this is also about admission, right? these are things we knew about. fox news in so many respects, fox news has been working in lockstep with the trump campaign, back in 2016 and 2020, and the trump administration throughout trump's presidency. but now, we are actually seeing it on paper. when you talk about 2020, let me read for you, danny, some of what we learned. now that these documents have been unsealed, murdaugh statements give dominion more ammunition in fox news defamation suit. murdoch can see in deposition testimony that fox news personalities endorsed the false claim that the 2020 election was stolen from donald trump. in for the quotes, murdoch saying he could've stopped fox news from continuing to bring former trump lawyer rudy giuliani on air to lie about dominion, but i didn't, he said.

then, asked why fox continue to feature my pillow ceiling can pearcey theorist my glendale, murdaugh suggested the move is a business decision, rather than a political one. he agreed with an attorney suggestion that quote, it's not red or blue, it is green. are you surprised at all that he is admitting with stuff? does he feel as if, no matter what he says, he is teflon, not unlike the former president? >> we're talking about definitions here that person is under oath in a deposition so there is no way going out, especially the high profile case like this. if he was presented with a question, i imagine it was a document placed in front of him, and it was really nowhere to run. so, the best thing to do in a deposition is give truthful, accurate answers, because i promise, it will come back to bite you if you don't. even if those answers are damaging. unless, of course, they could potentially criminally implicate you, then you might have a fifth amendment concern.

generally speaking, when you are an oath, under oath in a deposition, you tell the truth because the consequences art pretty severe if you don't. >> so, dylan buyers, essentially, fox news reporting, possibly that murdoch might make some sacrifices to help himself out, right? in his legal case. saying, rupert and his son loughlin may at some point feel compelled to make some blood sacrifices. it's not hard to see what might be in life for a sacrifice, if things get worse. suzanne scott, chief executive, would be the office most obvious candidate. are things like this helpful in a situation like this? >> they weren't affected that commission case. the facts are the facts. they've already happened. the real issue is far up the chain of command, this problem went, changing people now isn't going to change what happened in the past. so, the reality is, it's really going to be a first amendment battle about whether foxes -- but there is news worth, you can put it on the air. of course, dominion says, no, the law is somewhat different than the way you make it out to

be. >> even if it's a complete lie and you admit the only reason you're actually continuously doing it is to make money, even if it means misleading millions and millions of americans, leading to an insurrection. danny cevallos, thank you. could to talk to you, my friends. as always, coming up on top of the hour, we are expecting a news conference at any moment now on the deadly tanker fire in maryland. this is happening in montgomery county. right now, state police say the driver of the truck is dead. no others are injured. we are staying on top of this. don't go anywhere. ere. acid for twice as long as pepcid. get all-day and all-night heartburn acid prevention with just one pill a day. choose acid prevention. choose nexium.

every day, millions of things need to get to where they're going. and at chevron, we're working to help reduce the carbon intensity of the fuels that keep things moving. today, we're producing renewable diesel that can be used in existing diesel tanks. and we're committed to increasing our renewable fuels production. because as we work toward a lower carbon future, it's only human to keep moving forward. ♪ i like to move it, move it ♪ ♪ you like to... move it ♪ we're reinventing our network. ♪ ♪ ♪ fast. reliable. perfectly orchestrated. the united states postal service.

my mental health was much better, but i struggled with uncontrollable movements called td, tardive dyskinesia. td can be caused by some mental health meds. and it's unlikely to improve without treatment. i felt like my movements were in the spotlight. ingrezza is a prescription medicine to treat adults with td movements. ingrezza is different. it's the simple, once-daily treatment proven to reduce td that's #1 prescribed. people taking ingrezza can stay on their current dose of most mental health meds. ingrezza 80 mg is proven to reduce td movements in 7 out of 10 people. don't take ingrezza if you're allergic to any of its ingredients. ingrezza may cause serious side effects, including sleepiness. don't drive, operate heavy machinery, or do other dangerous activities until you know how ingrezza affects you. other serious side effects include potential heart rhythm problems and abnormal movements. it's nice people focus more on me. ask your doctor about #1 prescribed, once-daily ingrezza. learn how you could pay as little as zero dollars at ingrezza.com ♪ ingrezza ♪

nnouncer) enough with the calorie counting, at ingrezza.com carb cutting, diet fatigue, and stress. just taking one golo release capsule with three balanced meals a day has been clinically proven to repair metabolism, optimize insulin levels, and balance the hormones that make weight loss easy. release works with your body, not against it, so you can put dieting behind you and go live your life. head to golo.com now to join the over 2 million people who have found the right way to lose weight >> hey, everybody, i'm yasmin and get healthier with golo.

vossoughian. if you're just joining us, welcome. if you are sticking with, us we thank you for that. we are following a couple of different stories right now developing, at the life of its, of course, at cpac, where former president donald trump appears to speak to a very friendly crowd. as other would be rivals are staying very far away, blowing up in their face. new reverend -- revelations that representative jim jordan's quote, weaponization committee, heralded by those in the right as a way to bring down the so-called, as they're calling it, deep state. >> this is the tinfoil hat committee. there is nothing here. they are trying to do whatever they can to lay the groundwork for donald trump to come back to the white house. these are trump loyalists.