of positivity and we just want to spread it out to the world. >> devonte, kayzen i feel like you guys will be lifelong friends. kayzen you are one awesome little boy. i hope that your kindness and help rubs off on every person that you meet because we all need a little bit of that in this world. good luck to the both of you, i feel like you don't need it because you have each other. thank you guys. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> that wraps it up for me everyone, i am yasmin vossoughian. i would get back on the chair tomorrow, symone starts right now. righ now. greetings everyone, you are watching symone. the battle over a woman's right to make decisions about her own body as being fought on new fronts this week. in a stunning, move walkways will no longer discuss the abortion pill even in several states where it's still legal to take the drug. so we are digging into why and what is next.

and then and chicago, it has taken a very interesting turn. democrats paul vallas and brandon johnson are vying for the seat. we will talk to johnson who is part county commissioner and the area. we will talk to him about what he is bringing to the table. plus, we are kicking off women's history month by celebrating her story. we are talking to barrier breaking woman for change in the game and their profession starting with pixar animation studio executive brittle wilson. i am symone sanders-townsend, and i have something to say. omething to say. welcome to march 2023, all i'd like to know brandon johnson is a cook county commissioner. it is women's history month, and let me just say that i hope we do not finish this month we have started. this past week, walgreens the

nation's second largest pharmacy chain announced that it wanted distribute abortion pills in states where republican attorney general object. keep in mind, abortion remains completely illegal in many of the states were walgreens will no longer so the abortion pill called middle press known. in certain states to appease these attorney generals. walgreens explains its decisions in a statement saying quote we have responded to the state attorney generals letter to walgreens. dated february 1st by indicating we will not dispense mifepristone and their respective states. we intend to be a certified pharmacy and we will dispense mifepristone only in those jurisdictions where it is legal and operationally feasible. operational feasible is doing a lot of work there. y'all they are basically saying, it is not operationally feasible for them to dismiss the abortion pill in the states where the republican attorney general oppose it. this pill is an fda approved

medication, that accounts for more than half of all of abortions nationwide. that's according to the guttmacher institute, a research organization. all of this comes as we watch potential developments in court houses and state houses that could restrict access to health care that many women need across this country even further. meanwhile, any day now -- [inaudible] republican lawmakers passed legislation this past week essentially banning abortion clinics in the state. utah's governor is expected to sign the bill into law. so, happy women's history month. yes, although we can't really say how happy this month will be when it comes to women's health. let's talk about this. here to give us artist is joyce vance, a former u.s. attorney and current msnbc legal analyst. she's also professor at the university of alabama school of law.

also with me, as many team mirage, a president of narrow pro-choice america. all right folks, there is a lot happening here. this is not how i wanted to kick off march. joyce, talk to us from a legal standpoint. how much exposure does walk reinstate by continuing to sell abortion pills? and walgreens as the only chance that has come out and said the thing but then there is also the prospect of cbs, rite aid, what are your thoughts here? >> well so we see the story with walgreens obviously, there is a number of chains and their independent pharmacists. and essentially what the republican state attorney generals are doing is they are asking those pharmacies, do you want to gamble? do you want to gamble perhaps a very large lawsuit involving damages or very negative publicity if you continue to sell these drugs and we are successful and other litigation that would ban the sale of mifepristone, not just in one

state nationwide. and somewhat so incredible here is you would think that conservatives would have been happy with undoing roe v. wade but that was not enough. now they continue to go after the last vestiges, the last places where american women can access medical care. one of those big issues as medicated abortion. >> joyce, this point that you make, i just bolden underlining it all. manny, for the folks who have been watching this fight for access to the health care that many women in this country need in the form of an abortion, that is something that you all have been saying. this will not just talk at reversing row, they are coming for medical abortions next. what are your thoughts on this? >> we have always known for a really long time that the anti extremist movement has been after birth control, ivf and you are seeing language in personhood legislation, that

becomes you know, the life begins at conception if you will. so at the end of the, day there long game has always been total control over reproductive freedoms. we are not surprised, to see this fight. the other important point about medication abortion is unsafe with abortion bans, medication abortions are off the books. but in states with abortion protection, thank about michigan where they just change their constitution to protect access. new york, california, new jersey. >> kansas. >> kansas. this will take mifepristone off the shelves in those states as well. we are calling it a nationwide backdoor adorn band that's coming to the shores of your blue states. that is terrifying. >> along these lines joyce, in some of the states where walgreens will no longer sell the pill, i'm talking about iowa, south carolina and florida. the right to abortion as mini was talking about, is actually

enshrined in the states constitution's so, would that protect the company anyway? >> and again, it's a gamble. it's a litigation risk so companies are making a conservative business judgment. not a politically conservative judgment but one where they are realistically looking at the litigation environment. they're looking for instance at the texas case, or a federal judge is weighing whether or not to impose a nationwide ban on the sale of the drug and they're making the decision that given the trends that they have seen, it is not worth the risk. that i think it's an important decision for us to pay attention to. people with a very sophisticated way of evaluating what is coming illegally believe that what is coming will not be favorable to women maintaining their rights. so if there was ever a rallying cry for women to be alert to protest, to take steps, it is one business is sending us the signal that our rights are in

danger. >> i will have to tell y'all, i was so shocked by this this week. my question, was what were members of congress going to say about this, if anything. senator dick durbin who is the chair of the judiciary committee actually said that he will demand an explanation from walgreens ceo regarding a secession. he put out a statement today and he writes this. it is unacceptable that republican state officials are private businesses into denying critical health care services to their customers. i'm disappointed that walgreens ask a pitcher later to the thuggish intimidation tactics, which the justice department has made clear have no basis in federal law. so joy, talk to us again about the whole legal battle situation here but mini, do you think that this is about states trying to intimidate companies like walgreens? and if so, doesn't it appear that the tactic is working? >> yes, it is absolutely. they are taking a page out of

the texas legislative playbook. you know right after row, right after jobs, you know a lot of national companies sign pledges to say, they would protect employees, even if states with abortion bans. they would support employees leaving a state, they would create funds for access putting aside how challenging that is operationally for a corporation with your employees. let's say i'm an employee, do i really want to tell my manager that i need to leave the state for three days and have an abortion? probably not, it is very complicated. the intent was good right? so the texas legislature sent a notice to all of those companies and corporations saying we will go after you too if you do that. that quietly, many of them shut down their policies. this is yet another example of how the extreme gop is willing to just bully private sectors. the private sector has to decide that in this new you know environment, what are they going to do about it? i think shareholders will have something to say about, at the consumers will have something to say about it. a lot of those folks are women and they will exert their

strength. >> mini we will leave it there because i think that's a good place to end this conversation today but we are going to stay on this. joyce vance, mini timmaraju thank you both for kicking us off today and breaking this down. coming up. the new effort to try and make sure train this astrazeneca one and east palestine, ohio never happens again. i will ask senator bob casey about the bipartisan bill he introduced and the impact that bill could have if it passes. but first, our best he is, here my colleague richard lui with today's other top news stories. richard, tell me something good? >> simone, first of all good women's history month. thank you so much. some of the stories following for you, maryland officials saying the driver of a gasoline tanker truck that overturned has died. there was an explosion and fire that damaged multiple cars and three homes nearby. no additional injuries, the cause is not known. that's when it 24 presidential race picking up some steam. to republican contenders made their case at cpac,

traditionally they must attend conservative annual conference. nikki haley taking the stage yesterday, she got a mixed reception from a mostly pro trump crowd. the next hour, former president trump will give the keynote address. while in washington, off the spiritual adviser marion williamson announced her presidential bid this afternoon. this is our second bid for the white house. williamson is running as a democrat, she says her's bid is challenging the system, not president biden. more symone right after this break. th break. th the subway series. an all-star menu of delicious subs. like #6 the boss. meatballs with marinara and pepperoni. i get asked so many times - who's the boss? if you get the boss you are the boss. try subway's tastiest menu upgrade yet. okay everyone, our mission is complete balanced nutrition. together we support immune function. supply fuel for immune cells and sustain tissue health. ensure with twenty-five vitamins and minerals, and ensure complete with thirty grams of protein.

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month since the train derailed in east palestine, ohio causing one of the worst environmental disasters in recent memories. there is still so many unknowns about the safety of local soil, air and water. this week, the environmental protection agency ordered them to test for toxic pollutants that could have been released when the company burned the trans cargo.

like dioxin. at the epa insist that the area is safe and the chance of dioxin contamination is extremely low. while that is what they and north folk sutton officials tried to tell residents at a town hall meeting earlier this week by community members were not having it. >> the epa monitors and not the texted any volatile or any compounds of high levels of health concern pollutants. they are attributable to the train derailment. in addition, we were happy to take your questions. >> we are very sorry. we are sorry for what happened. we feel horrible about it. [inaudible] >> logistic a look at what dioxins can do. they can cause cancer, damage your immune system and contribute to hormonal

problems. the environmentalists and even infertility. so, yes i think people have a right to be scared. this, week bipartisan group of lawmakers introduced a railway safety act. it is designed to -- disasters by enhanced safety requirements for trains transporting hazardous materials through inspections and regulations. i'm joined now by one of the sponsors of that legislation, pennsylvania senator bob casey. welcome to you, sir it is good to see you. can you tell us what kind of safety enhancements are you looking for? >> yes, simone thank you for having me on to talk about this bill. the significant of this bill in terms of the political dynamic is that it is bipartisan. we have senator brown from ohio senator events as well as senator fetterman. and a few others to make it bipartisan. we have to make sure that the safety requirements applied to the transportation of hazardous materials, just like it would

for a higher standard of materials to be transported. this bill robo choir the department of transportation to issue new regulations to bring about that safety. the other provisions speak to safety of the transportation of these chemicals but also, what more inspections, more audits of these companies and very tough penalties. like multimillion dollar penalties instead of tens of thousands. >> affecting the pockets. what are your senate colleague saying about the bill sir? has senate leader, majority leader schumer given you any assurances, that it will make it to the floor and a timeline for doing that? >> he has been very supportive, i think it's significant as i said that you have democrats and republicans supporting it when it's being introduced. we have to obviously go through a committee process but we have to undertake every effort to

expedite this because as much as we have work to do to help the people of east palestine as well as the people of darlington on the pennsylvania side, and to help them not just over days or weeks but the whole north folks southern accountable, fully accountable, we have to make sure it doesn't happen again. this bill is really an effort to prevent this from happening ever again >> well you know i recently spoke with ohio congresswoman emilia sykes who says that pollution knows no boundaries. ykes whoi thought that was profd eerily correct. what are your top concerns for your constituents as it relates to the derailment? >> while some of those same concerns that were voiced by the residents of ohio that we're talking on the earlier part of the segment. they are worried about their air and water and quality of life. the federal government and both state governments have to address that. i don't think a lot of people

will take the word of one government agency and walk away and say everything is fine. there has to be constant testing and monitoring and also people want full accountability for north folk southern in the event there is that the termination of fault here. there is no question about it that north folk southern has to remain commit committed to the people of ohio and pennsylvania for years. not just for a few months. >> this is something that will not be fixed overnight. i want to switch gears senator, this week president biden said that he would sign a republican-led resolution that blocks changes to washington d.c.'s criminal sentencing laws. it was something he specifically said he would not veto and then he said not only will i not veto, it i will sign it. this is the first time congressman overturned a local d.c. law. d.c. bowser does not support the changes to the criminal code that this resolution addresses. she also does not support congress overriding local laws. here is what she told chuck

todd this week. i want to play this for you. >> i have been on the side of making sure that we have a fair system but also a system that holds people accountable who have committed crimes. i will never say that we want the congress meddling in the affairs of the district of columbia. that's a slippery slope and again that we endure. >> senator, you are one of the number of democrats, stamina democrats that supported the resolution of changes to the d.c. law. i think there are folks out there that want to know why and also, lots to talk about crime nowadays. rightfully so but what does addressing crime mean to you? >> well first and foremost, we have to be focused on public safety, no matter where it is, no matter what jurisdiction you are talking about. that is the fundamental reason why i made the determination to support this measure. and obviously, i have been not

only strong supporter of the statehood but also a strong supporter of robust and significant criminal justice reform including the george floyd justice and policing act. i have a strong record on those issues. at the same, time we are in the circumstance where we have to make a decision about the district and it's a decision each senator has to make. let's call this for what it really is. republicans in the senate playing games, trying to pretend that they are tough on crime when we know that last december in an appropriations bill, 87%, 87% of congressional republicans voted no on funding the couch program. voted 40 money for the burn justice grant. voted 40 money for the violence against women program. republicans are the ones who are soft on holding dangerous criminals accountable, because

87% of them voted for zero funding for federal law enforcement funding. let's call this for what it is. republicans playing games and pretending. >> sounds to me like back the blue might just be a catching phrase and that actual policy. pennsylvania senator bob casey, thank you very much. appreciate your time. >> thanks simone. >> next up folks, my political panel joins me for an important conversation about the first amendment. and how social and political commentary are crucial to our democracy. stay with us.

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everything my, booked and you know i believe that people who are interested in turning our society for the better, they have to identify the radical revolutionary contribution to that work. and when i say, that i am not talking about protesting. although for, some that maybe their radical revolution contribution. for someone, delta might be corporate sustainability are teaching young people how to organize. every week, and i have the privilege of bringing you the news about what is happening across the country as well as social and political commentary on some of the most pressing issues of our time. my radical revolutionary contribution is speaking truth to power on this network while keeping the bar high and substantive. and something i have been actually thinking a lot about census pastors tonight when my boss, msnbc rashida -- president rush eta jones was honored by the radio television

digital news association, and accepting the organizations first amendment award. she had this to say. she said quote historians will note we as a nation have had a rich and colorful legacy of vivid, provocative and sometimes irresponsible commentary since the first amendment was ratified. but with a bad has also come so much more good. the first amendment has enabled our histories most powerful and effective commentary to flourish. spirited commentary. lively debate, inform discussions, there is critical to a democracy as the ballot box itself. and speaking of inform discussions, our political panel joins me now. eugene scott is a senior politics reporter at axios. cristobal alex is an msnbc political analyst and former president of the latino victory project. jennifer horn is with us virtually and she is a former chair of the new hampshire republican party. welcome to you all. you know, eugene and another life you wrote a very

interesting race and politics column. so russia also had something else to say in her remarks, i want to get your thoughts on. she noted how the commentary that protected the first amendment was critical to the voices of icons like wtvd boy, and ida b. wells and my oh angela specifically to call it and and inequality. can you expand on that point? >> yes so as you know used to cover identity politics and we all know that your identity shift your politics and how politics and policy can affect you. a lot of people don't understand how people in this country have different experiences and how policy and politics impact them differently. it's really important for the press, to talk about how lawmaking can affect women and millennials and people of color, immigrants, elderly people differently. and so the press has the responsibility be posting a network or writing a column or even a podcast to make that clear to voters.

>> what effect using social media has had on our social and political commentary? >> at its, best it has gotten voices into the conversation that will not be able to be published in the washington post or be on msnbc. at worst disinformation has been out of control and there is a lot of harmful commentary that is not really nuanced are thoughtful that gets you know too much coverage into much attention. i think there is also responsibility factor here to. jennifer, we barely saw two years ago during the insurrection just how dangerous lies and conspiracies masking as commentary can be. and i mean just barely, just a little bit so i'm being facetious, we saw it a lot. so how should folks within the media apparatus be navigating that commentary? >> well i think it's really important to make a distinction between commentary and

information. commentary and news. commentary and fact. it is one thing for there to be a an energetic exchange of ideas and commentary, an exchange of opinions, an exchange of perspectives. it's another thing altogether to advance false information as fact, as data and that is what we saw happen on january 6th. you know leading up to the insurrection. we have a single news organization. i hope it's okay for me to say it, that fox news as we all know now has been widely reported that they knew they were giving people information and presenting it as truth when they knew as they said it, that it was false. that's a whole different story than commentary and engaging exchange of opinions and perspectives. that is actually dangerous. >> you know cristobal, jennifer makes an important point and

she is talking about the commentary and it was on fox news, also on different conservative outlets if you will across the country. now, dominion voting is demanding a company that makes voting machines is suing fox news in a defamation lawsuit. and it is, and there is particularly about this week we saw some text messages right over the past couple of weeks from fox news host that made their way into a filing right? and there is deposition of rupert murdoch himself, specifically talking about this. you have fox news meanwhile saying that the suit is actually a violation of the first amendment. the host were simply reporting on what the city president was saying about an election, not necessarily editorializing. what do you make of this? >> that's right, great to be with you again. you know here is a thing. our democracy is under attack. we are on the precipice and when you have a major news

organization, that millions and millions of people watch spreading those lives, it's harmful to democracy and it's very rare for defamation to to actually work. when you are being sued for defamation, the absolute offense to a defamation claims to show that you are telling the truth. and here as you pointed, out what we have our text messages between the lauryn, grumped occur carlson and others admitting that they are actually spreading lies for the purpose of increasing their news foliage. that's a huge problem for democracy and i think that 1.6 billion dollar lawsuit is actually going to stick. i hope we have some impact and the irony is -- these are the same folks who would scream as loud as they could about fake news and fake media and the mainstream media but it's actually them for the ones who are spreading the lies. >> i do think it is very dangerous for discourse what folks are not telling the truth. very interesting conversation. before i let you guys, go i want to make sure and tried to talk about the student loan situation happening. particularly this week in the supreme court, they just heard arguments challenging president biden's executive order, wiping

out student loan debt of up to $20,000 for individual borrowers if they have grants. the justice department is arguing that the heroes act of 2003 authorizes this broad student debt forgiveness plan. now the justice department says the legislation gives the education department the power to wave student debt in response to a national emergency. critics say that that is a stretch. i think there are some conservative justices that seem skeptical here. the idea seemed pretty straightforward though to justice elena kagan, take a listen to this. >> congress cannot have made this much more clear. i mean congress did not say exactly the circumstances in which it wanted the secretary to use the authority. of course, not this is a bill about like what happens when you have an emergency. so what congress that is what happens when you have an emergency is the secretary has the power to take care of emergencies.

and as that power by way of waving or modifying any provision and adding others in lieu of them. >> now jennifer, do you think there's any chance of the court doesn't rule along party lines here? >> i would be surprised, i had to say that about the supreme court of the united states. i would be surprised if they didn't, especially after what we saw coming from in away their questions. they're questioning, it was on tuesday. i will say very quickly regardless of this particular case turned out at the supreme court. whether or not they decided the executive branch does or does not have the authority. what concerns me the most is that whether you forgive the loan or, not this particular definition of the loan or not we still are going to have the same problem. there was filibustered into a subject of predatory lending. there were still be universities that are upping their tuition outrageously. >> or jennifer people who cannot afford.

i mean we are about to be out of time cristobal, that will give you the last word on this. you were at the white house during this time. what say you about this whole situation? >> i will tell you, i think president biden are doing exactly. right student loan debt is out of control. and what this will do. >> one of the supreme court doesn't go along? what happens? >> still need to do something, the 45 million are struggling under the weight of this that, forget about worrying about their past and think about the future. take that resource, buy a house, invest in the business, build their economy. for political reasons, i think republicans will pay the price. groups like with a 45 million and others will not let them forget if they block this past. >> all right, have to leave it there. eugene scott, cristobal alex and jennifer horn, i appreciate you all very much. after the, break folks we are getting into the chicago mayoral race shakeup after in -- failed to advance to next months runoff. two other democratic candidates are facing off in a race that some say reflects political divisions playing out nationwide. so don't go anywhere, i am

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through the windy city this week when chicago mayor laurie lightfoot became the first mayor to lose her reelection primary and 40 years. now to democratic candidates, former chicago school ceo paul vallas, and cook county commissioner brandon johnson will fight to replace her in a runoff next month. now these men may both have a.d. next to their names on their ballot, and their ideologies as water than the chicago river. in a city where crime ranks of the top of voters concerns, paul vallas snag the endorsement of the fraternal order of police after calling former officers on the streets. and just over three years after chicago navigated its longest teacher strike in decades, commissioner johnson himself a former educator has been endorsed by the chicago teachers union. i caught up with the cook

county commissioner brandon johnson and i asked whether the national media is right in thinking that the election is a test of two dueling factions within the democratic party. here is his response. >> well i wish it was a debate between individuals within the democratic party. but paul vallas is his own words, he is described himself as a republican. and, fact he did that right after re-elected the first black president of the united states. and so you know his identity has been more aligned with the republican party and has gone as far as to say that he fundamentally opposes reproductive rights. he made it very clear that he does not support the right for women to have declaration over their own bodies. he is also supported by the leadership around the city, this country that has been supportive of the january six insurrection. >> let's talk about some of the policies you have talked about. you had an active elected

mayor. you have particularly pledge that as mayor, you would eliminate the city structural deficit. according to mayor lightfoot 2023 budget forecast, these are the numbers that the city will face a deficit of just over $300 million and 2024 and more than 200 and $65 million of deficit in 2025. to be clear, the forecast knows that is in the best-case scenario. they could potentially be worse. what is your specific plan to cut those numbers down? >> the most important part about the budget plan, within the first part, within my first four years eliminate the structural deficit while making up to one billion dollars of critical investments without raising property taxes. what the budget plan does get a, very pointedly much like with president biden delivering a few weeks ago. a teacher in a firefight there should not be paid the same tax rate when you have a billionaire that is essentially what the budget plan indicates. we find the efficiencies, we

clean up all of the waste that has existed for a very long time and then we make critical investments without taxing working people. >> i have to ask you, crime has been a key talking point and an issue frankly and their primary. i can almost assure you that it will be something that we will all continue to ask about in advance of the runoff. why is the vote for you a vote for a safer chicago? without naming your opponent? >> that is, right every public and every sweeping public safety plan. it's an investment plan. my wife and i were raising their three children on the west side of chicago, awesome community. one of the largest concentration of black folks anywhere in the world. we love our community but it's been disinvested in one of the most violent neighborhoods and the entire city of chicago. i'm alex if the plan you need to see a long term solution. and, one we will promote 200 more detective so that we are actually solving crime. , to we are going to spend to make sure that we are actually paying for the implementation

and carrying out the consent to agree with all expediency. and, three hire more lung people. a direct correlation between youth employment and violence production. we will open up the mantle -- but we also make sure that we have first responders that our mental health responders because almost 40% of the 9-1-1 calls that come to the city of chicago our mental health crises. and police officers, they are doing way too much. having mental health responders that freeze of law enforcement to actually get out the more violent and severe crimes. >> all right brandon johnson, thank you very much. >> after the, break we are kicking off my brand-new series, celebrating her story with a trail blazers are from, right down the street from hollywood. someone who is elevating representation and inclusion all through movies. my conversation with greta wilson is next. wilson is next they're called 'small businesses.'

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the phrase we the people in order to form a more perfect union. at the time of our nation's founding that we only meant rich white man. throughout this, three women often women of color have been at the forefront of working to expand the we. this women's history month in partnership with micah prusiensky know your value, on symone we are highlighting the barrier breaking and game-changing women do our blazing new trails and expanding the definition of we right now through our celebrating her story series. we are launching this series with a trail blazer for inclusion and diversity in the hollywood movie industry. we know storytelling plays a big role in shaping culture and representation matters. and the past four, years we have seen huge strides made towards the diversity of various stories with what we see on screen. one example is pixar's movie soul.

when the animation to undecided made souls lead character joe a black man, they knew they needed help. the director wanted to make joe believable, to still steer clear of the typical stereotypes are clichés that we have all way too often seen. that's when it was time for pixar secret weapon greta wilson to come to the front. now bread to join the pixar in 2016 as the newly created vice president of inclusion strategies. her goal was to create an inclusive and welcoming environment for everyone at the company. she is two years of experience and human resources to focus on culture behind the scenes that can also translated better representation on screen. dixon's president gem morris said at pixar, it is critical to empower a wide variety of voices to shed the stories we tell to ensure that we produce vibrant, diverse and meaningful films into the future. and the movies, all it won the oscar for best animated feature. so who better to kick off

women's history month then britta wilson. i recently sat down with her and i asked her how she went about reaching their goals on pixar. that's the conversation. >> when i originally accepted this, role what i really purpose today was to create access an opportunity. i felt like if we were going to really move the needle in the space, that's storytelling was going to be a pivotal place to do it. so how do we clear the path for different, new storytellers? how do we tell stories that will resonate beyond what we have told before? so that's what i wanted to, do i wanted to create a place for new voices were empowered, different stories were told. we were having fun doing it. >> you are having fun doing it. how exactly did you do that? >> what we tried to do is create a space where we were empowering new voices, also telling stories with rich authenticity. to ensure that what we were telling really would resonate with the broad audience. that's the content side of it. the employee workplace side of

it which i call the efforts to create belonging is really around how do we create a space where no matter who you, are you can bring i don't say your whole self to work because i don't know that i want everybody's whole self, if i will be honest. but i do know that i want people to bring their best self. when i first started at the studio, a started doing a listening tour. i came into the studio and i realize that in order for us to change the culture of the studio, their fortunes the content, i needed to understand the culture of the studio. i didn't come in what the prescriptive set of solutions, i came in curious. as pun i probably seven or eight months of my time at the studio asking people to tommy their stories. tell me what it was like to work at the studio. from, that what i learned there is a high desire to embed new storytellers, to a broader representation. there was trump nation around how to do it. it was a new muscle that we needed to develop. so i know that in order to change culture, you have to have shared learning

experiences and shared language. we created the inclusion summit as a way to do that. >> dana marie who i think you know, worked on the project soul. they anne-marie said this about you. about pictures recognition and the new york times. she, said pixar recognize that if joe is going to be black, who was the character and sold we would need a lot of help. she said that, you britta will send help build an internal cultural transmit above some of the studios black employees, a group that was, diversify outside voices and they said they also talked a lot of external consultants. and organizations about how to tell the story authentically. >> when it was determined that you will be african american or a black jazz musician, what we know medical was that we have to provide the scaffolding and support for dana and pete. vide the stampa was the writer e show and eventually was elevated to the co director. what we wanted to do is provide them with the support that they could to make sure my single goal and that was i want to

make sure that joe gardner navigated the world as a black man. all of our stories come from the lived experiences of our storytellers. we wanted to enrich the storytellers by curing the stories of those who were in member participants of those communities. >> you have this role of picks are in 2016. there was a boom in 2020 cup on electrical diversity dialers, new dei efforts. do you think that this work is fleeting for some folks and what is your take on the current landscape? >> i think that's an interesting question because i think that without a doubt, there was a boom. some of the racial reckoning of evolution, there was a boom. all of my colleagues in the space we were just inundated with calls from organizations, can you help us take this job, it's that aura? i think certainly there was a moment that mattered and i think that that was a moment in which organizations really needed to be reflective meant to look towards a future of how they're going to embed and amputees practices and principles and values into the

organizations and into their products right? that is really where your profits. how can you get this to the point of profit? i think going forward, as we have seen there has been somewhat of a recoiling of these roles and the focus on it. i think that's a bit short sighted. >> what is the legacy want to leave a picture? >> it's a fantastic question. i come from a long history of stronger women and my family. what we were always, what i was always taught was to make more deposits and withdrawals. so my legacy if i can choose what it would be was make sure that i made as many deposits and the lives of so many that it really mattered. >> britta wilson, a game-changer ladies and gentlemen. vice president at pixar, very good to see you my friend. thank you so much. >> thank you so, much appreciate it. >> if you love that, fox will be giving it to you all month long. again, partnership of not your

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