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contrast. ♪ ♪ ♪ right now my mind is on selma, alabama, our residents are preparing to commemorate one of the most pivotal advance of the black freedom struggle. tomorrow i will be joining you live from selma, we're all be taking part in the 58th anniversary of bloody sunday. in my capacity at the head of the national action network. president biden will make his third visit to selma as commander-in-chief. and will call for new action to the voting rights activists who risked their lives for, back on march seven, 1965. but as democrats prepare to mark that sovereign memorial. and grace, and have have

grayson affection and reflection. republicans will close out this year's conservative political action conference. with more of the car to conservatives. that have been on display for the last four days. with tonight's keynote speech coming from none other than donald trump. scheduled to take the stage within the hour. the contrast is stark. and the emblematic of the divide between the parties right now is broader than ever. and the same lack of seriousness driving conservative rage at cpac is reflected by republicans on crime and capitol hill. and in the nation's steak houses, and the governors mansions, as they wage a war on social progress. which they demonized politically as woke. while economic lifelines like

the enhanced food assistant benefit that expired this week at -- millions of americans whether the pandemic. those lifelines are now allowed to languish without plans to replace them. what republicans do appear to have planned for our cuts for the safety net program, like food assistance, even as millions of americans are paying more to it than they have in decades. joining me now is congressman steven horsford, democrat -- and chair of the congressional black caucus. congressman, mister chairman, thank you for joining us tonight. will both be in salma tomorrow you as a u.s. congressman. and chair of the black caucus and myself as -- commemorating those that risked and lost their lives for voting rights on march 7th, 1965 at the end of pettus bridge, nearly three generations later.

voting rights in america specifically access for people of color. it remains under attack by conservative state legislatures. with lawmakers at least 32 states have won three filed, or introduced 150 restrictive voting bills. by the end of january. and at least 27 election interference bills introduced in ten states, in the same time. according to the brennan center for justice. you're in the u.s. congress, chairing a back caucus whose constituents have always been disproportionately affected by voting suppression attempts. how would you characterize the state of voting rights in 2023 ahead of tomorrow? >> very critical, reverend al, thank you for having me on. the congressional black cop this is here on the ground with you, we'll see you tomorrow,

i'm here in montgomery, alabama, with many of my colleagues today. we were over in some earlier today. and we'll be back there tomorrow. but let me be absolutely clear as you stated, voting rights is among the top of the agenda for the congressional black caucus. as it has been. because of the fundamental protections and guarantees. but as your viewers rightfully understand and know, too many states have made it harder for people to vote, they put restrictions, and suppression tactics in place, and that's why the congressional black caucus is working hard to make sure that we protect that fundamental right. this is the first time in 40 years that republicans have not worked with democrats in order to reauthorize some of those most fundamental protections. >> congressman, this, week the pandemic -- added benefits under the

supplemental nutrition assistance program. it came to an end. every snap recipient now stands to see about $100 less per month for food. for some households it will be $250 or more. at times when food insecurity has risen. notably, in the united states. and disproportionately in black communities. that are already three times more likely to experience hunger. thraccording to federal data, t also comes as some leading house republicans are using for the majority to explore broader cuts to federal food assistance. and with that the federal budget. but what does the end of these expanded benefits mean for folks in your las vegas district? >> for children, families that rely on snap benefits, in my district in nevada, and all across the country, it means

food insecurity. it means literally not having the ability to have the basics that they need to take care of themselves. and have food on the table. for children, it means going to school hungry. it means them not having the quality of life that they desperately need. we hear from our constituents all the time, come democrats deliver for them. we have people over politics -- by passing these benefits and now republicans in congress want to take those resources away, and cut them back. and that's yet another thing i'm issuing a ladder, along with the congressional hispanic and asian caucus. with the black caucus speaking about the need to protect these benefits, it's one of the things that were here in montgomery and cellmate to showcase. congress woman with terry sewell, who represents the district has been hard hit, after the horrific hurricane that hit the city. they need help, that's what

congressman sewell said. that's what the congressional black congress will continue to fight for. >> congressman, as we are -- closing out this year's conservative political action conference. and despite all the talk that cpac no longer has the influence it once did on the gop. and all the analysis suggesting that trump's grip on the gop has slipped as he runs for the presidency this third time. what do you take from the fact that he still has top billing and what's one of the most prominent annual gatherings for conservatives? >> well, sadly what it means is that the republican party is controlled by the maga laying. the extreme maga wing. this represented by the marjorie taylor greene's, the matt gates is, that continue to deny the results of the last election. that do not want to protect

democracy, that have undermined our ability to protect people's fundamental right to vote. they now want to literally cut things like social security, medicare, veterans benefits, hurt families who are on snap. we know that the choice as you started wet, the contrast could not be more clear. it's not about the election in 2020. for it's about what we're doing every single day right now to deliver for constituents. in our districts across this country. that's what the congressional black campuses focus on. that's what our members are focused. on and that's what the american people want us to focus on. >> congressman, to developments in the fight over reproductive rights. the pharmacy train walgreens announcing that it will no longer so apply abortion pills, for nearly two dozen states were republican attorney generals have objectives. this along with a looming federal court decision in texas,

deciding whether a key -- and medication abortions. will be altered after a lawsuit from antiabortion groups and physicians what can be done federally to maintain access to these abortion drugs before they're out of reach for millions of women? >> we need to codify the protections of roe, through the house democratic supported women's freedom for health care act. something that representative chu and other members have a lead on. and i must cosponsor this would protect women's fundamental rights to make their own health care decisions about their bodies. and to make sure that those freedoms continue to be available. concerned with companies like walmart taking away these products, that women need in order to decide for themselves

how to -- want to have a family. and in states like nevada, that protect a woman's right or literally taking away the resources that women need and this does disproportionately affect black women. who need to have these freedoms and these protections codified in federal law. >> before we lose you, president biden took from a policing reform situation, police reform advocates, and a number of house democrats while he signaled that he would not veto, but rather sign the house gop resolution. marking change to criminal punishments in the district criminal code. the first time in more than three decades, the congressman is expected to overturn a d.c. local law. where do you come down on that? >> i believe in local control, i believe that the d.c.

residents, and their governments should be able to decide for themselves, what they want to pass. especially, the district of columbia. that doesn't have the representation because there are not approved as a state. which is something that i also support, i hope my colleagues in the senate would hear the needs of the residents in d.c. as they take up these resolutions that were passed by house republicans. but ultimately, i believe in local control in d.c. residents and their governments making their own decisions. >> congressman, rep. steven horsford, i'll see you tomorrow in selma. all of you at home, make sure you're watching politics lesion tomorrow. sunday show will be live from selma, alabama, at 5 pm eastern. following the 58 anniversary of bloody sunday. our march over the pettus bridge, along with president biden and others.

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politicsnation. you're looking at live pictures from cpac the conservative political action conference. wrapping up outside of d.c. this afternoon. former president donald trump is expecting to take the stage to deliver the keynote address at any moment. within the last hour trump run a stronghold of 50 -- vote. his closest challenger was florida governor ron desantis. who scored 20%. joining me now to talk about it is my political panel, maura gillespie, former aide to republican representative adam kinzinger. and michael hardaway, former staff with a democratic senator, nic durbin, and hakeem jeffries. cpac has traditionally been a civil case for republican presidential hopefuls. let's start off with trump's presidential campaign. which was announced in mid

november. and has been off to a rocky start as the former president has dealt with self inflicted scandals, legal investigations trump has been doing a bit of a reset in recent. weeks last week, he visited ohio after the train derailment there and he has proposed some unusual policies including a national contest to design futuristic freedom cities with massive skyscrapers and flying cars. this question is for both of you is the third trump campaign looking for serious than it did when he kicked off -- mara, you first that michael. >> it's more serious i would say, no. i think this is about eco, with east palestine trained or ailment showing there. it was a political move, it was self survey, and unfortunately i think that's what we're gonna keep getting, is an ego driven

campaign by donald trump. >> michael? >> i agree. he's not a serious candidate and this is about -- if you look at his actual policies there there, this seems to be an exercise in self promotion and possibly get back to losing the last election. >> another republican presidential candidate nikki haley came with a speech at cpac yesterday. and was heckled by some trump supporters. well she was taking pictures, take a look. [crowd chanting] >> other potential candidates including former vice president, mike pence and florida governor ron desantis decided not to attend cpac at all. if you're a republican with

presidential aspirations not name trump, is it better to show up or skip it? mao raw, you first and then michael. >> cpac used to be important, it used to be relevant and now it's just a side note for people in the d.c. political bubble to talk about, and that's where it is now. i think you're seeing that with minimal attendants. i thought that nikki haley attending was a misstep. we do need thoughtful leadership and it's great to see a woman running for the highest office in the land. i just don't see how this is a positive for her to attend and kind of bend to the portion of our party that shows up at cpac. it's a trump -- and unfortunately, she did. i was disappointed. >> michael? >> no serious individual show up at cpac and currently is a circus, and that shot a speedy

barnum. by the way, it's interesting to me that max, who's been accused of such sexual assault, is still hosting this event and none of these republican candidates have been made to answer for their participation notwithstanding the charges. i find it interesting but i will say that cpac today is a complete joke, no one who truly is serious candidate should show up to that. >> cpac grew into a major event for republicans as the party be it to the right during the trump years. but now that right-wing appears split between those who still love the formal president and those who want to move on. the cpac still matter? >> i think the lack of attendants, and it being mostly a trump supported event, it does tell us that maybe, and i'm being an optimist year. but maybe we're seeing the light that we need to move on, move beyond donald trump.

and that's my hope would cpac this year. but again, like most people at home, they're not paying attention to what's happening at cpac. and that's a good thing. we need to move forward and move on this fringe of the party. >> michael? >> cpac still matters for the far-right. i think no moderate republican is paying attention to what's happening this week. but the far-right is essentially turning cpac into one very large trump rally. so it matters for than it but in the grand scheme of whether cpac helps decide the republican candidate, it's irrelevant. >> well, i think that clearly we're going to see later former president trump and what he needs to say and i'm sure too many of us it will not matter. we're looking at it live right now to keep the stage and clapping for himself although he's probably trying to act

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politicsnation. this week a group of more than 200 faith leaders from across the country issued a challenge to the biden administration. calling on the white house to establish a commission to study reparations before juneteenth this year. two of those are joining me now. -- vashti mackenzie of the national council of churches. and rabbi jonah posner of the religious action center of reform judaism. thank you both for joining me today. we've been hearing more discussion about reparations since the george floyd protest of 2020. but mostly at the state and local levels. why are you pushing for federal

action now, when we go first to you, mister mackenzie, and then you rabbi posner? >> i'd say why. not because we don't have great confidence in this congress is gonna really -- that's a piece of legislation that asks for commission to study reparations and make recommendations not only about slavery, but the errors of enslavement. the unjust policies and practices that happen in our country. that was back in 1989, so now is the time, we leave an executive order to push this process. ahead especially while cities like -- [interpreter] newport news, detroit, now the state of california have operations on the agenda. and actually have reparations and practice. now is the time. >> rabbi, as you ready to give your response. i can't say that our new congresswoman cheri jackson who's pushing h.r.40 --

president to sign an executive order pushing that. rabbi jonah posner, why are you? involved >> it's great to see bishop vashti mackenzie, great to be back with you, reverend. all what took us so long, why not yesterday, we'd have 400 years of enslaved african people. we have 14 years of systemic racism. we have 400 years of voter suppression and jim crow. if not, now? as we say in the jewish tradition. for, us as jews, the children of the enslavement of the ancient hebrew. it's personal. it says in the book of exodus, the text you both know very well, as the israelites we're coming out of egypt, they took possessions from the egyptians what. them gold, silver, and refinements. and the rabbis, teach this wasn't theft but rather it was reparations for 300 years of their enslavement. later in our tradition, the rabbis debate, -- what to do when you discover that a house has been built with a stolen beam.

and the great rabbi says, you need to tear the house down and get the beam back. and the rabbi said, you don't tarrant down that you need to compensate the person from whom the beam was stolen. we have four years of reparations to confront. because folks who are the descendant of african slaves had their lives, bodies, their wealth, their livelihood all stolen from them. and it was compounded year, by year by -- jim crow. if not now, when? >> i might add, this is not the first time you've taken hard positions, rabbi. you join me in calling on the ministers march on washington about three or four years ago. and you raise some of these haitians. but reparation proposals have languished in congress for decades. as was said, but we're still, we're seeing developments in some states and communities as bishop mentioned. california's reparation task force just wrapped up a two-day public hearing.

we spoke in several times on the show, with chairman camilla more about the serious study of systemic discrimination. being carried out by that path. recently, the city council in boston voted to study how reparations might work in their city. what do you think these communities are taking action now, first a bishop and then you, rabbi? >> i think we need to strike while the eye is high. since the death of your flight, or the murder of george floyd, this has become a topic that has moved forward. one of the things i think reverend all that we need to understand is that reparation comes in several forms. there is satisfaction, troop sequence, exception of violence, recovery, and then there's restitution. that's what we're talking about restoring the survivors to their original situation. there's also compensation. it's a monetary event for any economic accessible damage.

and then there's rehabilitation. which we don't talk about a lot. medical, psychological care and legal, and social services. and then there's the guarantee of non repetition, which lens to policy. that means reform. judicial reform. long enforcement reform, we need to take a look at all of these forms of reparations. when we say that we need to have now, we need to have a commission the study, and we need sure and complete remedies for the harm that has been caused. >> rabbi? >> i agree with bishop mckenzie once again. i'd also acknowledged a reform jewish movement which i'm honored to lead, passed a resolution in 2019 calling for the passage of hr 40 which by the way, is just a resolution to call for the study of reparations. it doesn't even say what reparations look like. if we can even start a conversation about how we would

compensate the descendants of african slaves. what's holding us back? so, in 2019 begin the first major jewish denomination a za'shawn to pass that call. it was before the lynching -- we've been at the conversation. while i'd also say as a rabbi and as a jew, whose family have descended for the victims of the holocaust. to show -- we understand the role of operations. there was the movement for the german government to do reparations for the jewish communities in light of what the nats had done to the jews. the united states had its own precedent. because the reparations that were paid to the families who are in the internment cats, the japanese americans during world war ii, there is certainly precedent for this. the h.r.40 just calls for the study of reparations, we're asking president biden in a letter -- to ship mckenzie, organize for 200 faith leaders. which i was proud to sign. and many of our colleagues around aside calling on the biden administration to do this by executive order.

because, folks, let's be honest, this h.r.40 gets reintroduced every single session of congress. and for some reason reverend al, it doesn't get passed. so, let's get it done. >> the ship mackenzie, your group cited the racial black history as one of the reasons that you're calling for action. reparations, action, this is an important topic. i've recently traveled to florida in my capacity as head of -- demonstrate against florida governor, ron desantis. his ban over high school african american studies courses. many faith leaders had joined me. talk about how these two issues are connected, but ship? >> well, reverend al, this is an important subject. when you race a person's history. when you try and wipe them off the face of the. or trying to not only erase their contributions but who they are we need to remember

that back in the 1800s, the end of enslavement emancipation proclamation, more than one half of the economic assets in the united states or enslaved persons. there is no other, not one single area in our country, whether it's business, whether it's commerce, whether it's inventions. where african did not make a wonderful contribution. it's written there. you can't erase our history, you can't say they were just in danger -- indentured servants who are brought to this country who had housing in food. that's absolutely not true. we were brought here against our will. we survived the middle passage. and have survived every absolutely everything that was meant to destroy us, and dehumanizes. and so, no, we need to teach black history, which is american history. so, we can understand the contributions that we make. we were just not sitting on the sidelines, we're not just

cattle and chattel,. we were absolutely -- participants in building this country. and that needs to be taught. not only to their children, but every child, in every ethnic group, that makes up the american population. >> rabbi, on thursday, a man was charged with using twitter tighter and to kill michigan state government officials who are jewish. one at those targets being michigan attorney general dana bissell. the american defamation league found antisemitic incidents in the u.s. have reached an all-time high in recent years and overall hate crimes continue to rise and major american cities last year with police that are showing that at least six metropolitan areas reported numbers not seen since the 1990. how can a national dialogue on reparations helped address this rise in hate speech and and hate violence? >> reverend how, you know i say

this all the time, our safety as jews is in our solidarity with all the people who experience bigotry and violence and hate, whether it's brown folks, asian americans, the g bt q i a folks, the muslim community, unfortunately, there has been a real targeting of jews. you and i saw this when we were watching together after charlottesville, when they chanted jews will not replace us. we know that there's a direct link between white supremacy and this nostalgia between confederacy and keep racism lock stock. antisemitism, the hatred of jews. i know our safety isn't our solidarity, when we bring people across all kinds of lines, and i also believe redemption as a nation may yet come through a multi racial, multi inclusive democracy in which every voices heard because every vote is actually counted, which is why i am glad you started the show tonight with a voting rights.

i know you will be in some of tomorrow, but let's not forget that goodman, cheney and sure marie gave their lives registering voters. >> -- swore into jews and a black. >> a man, because they understood what we understand now, which is that the force of bigotry, antisemitism, anti black racism and all these forms of hate, they are in and unholy alliance. we have to rise up together, both to keep each other safe and stand in solidarity and to make it inclusive just multi racial democracy we know it can be. . the actual business of reparations is that we have to actually atone from a pass and be a country that we could be proud of. >> last question, it doesn't support right scoops similar sent a letter calling on president joe biden to sign an executive order to have reparations by juneteenth. he evidently has not taken action. why do you think this time will be different.

first to the bishop and then to the rabbi. >> election, election, election, 2024, 2024. being able to go into the election with some winds because there were some promises made the last time. some of the promises have been kept, but there are still promises yet to go. >> amen, bishop. >> all right, thank you but rabbi mackenzie -- both of y'all were pitching for us tonight, thank you for being on. we'll be right back. back. type 2 diabetes? discover the ozempic® tri-zone. in my ozempic® tri-zone, i lowered my a1c, cv risk, and lost some weight.

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right to vote. dr. martin lurking and others he did a cry. that's what led to trump going to some, and it was on that sunday march 7th, that they headed across that bridge, another king junior, jose williams, john louis, was the student on the violent coronated committee was tear gassed and beaten. 100 blacks walking behind them ran across the bridge for their lives. amelia boykin, that black woman, citizen of summer, late on the ground, being tear gassed. as we march tomorrow, we are watching for amelia blinken and for many decades later, and i remember going across the bridge behind her, even a watcher, next the congresswoman terri sawyer. dreaming and believing that the

bill we got passed in 65 would be upheld and voting rights protected. i remember in 2020, as we were marching across that bridge, we were told that john louis could not make it a year because he was suffering from what would later cause his death, and as we got to the top at the bridge, a car pulled up, and john lewis stepped out, and i was honored as he spoke to us one last time. john lewis and amelia behnken will not be there tomorrow, -- still named after a former member of the ku klux klan, but i'll be there, president biden will be there, others will be there, jesse jackson, martin attacking the third and others, because we don't want to forget that the right to vote is sacred, if in the bloods of blacks, whites, jews and gentiles, the fought to give us

that right on women's history month, i remember amelia blinken and, importantly, i will do what she would expect that we will continue doing. we'll be right back. we'll be right back.

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