they are our voices of hope and our instruments of peace and progress. i often tell them, i often conveyed to them, the importance of being a part of the process. letting them know they are not too young. if you want to speak change you have to be part of change. here we are today remembering, reflecting and lee committing ourselves on the voting rights. we must continue to instill the hopes and dreams -- we must not allow young people to forget that. their history and the shoulders on which they're standing on. we continue to not only tell our stories, but to invite young people to be a part of this process. >> thank, you shyann weisberg, joanne bland. very much appreciated. that does it for me, thank you for watching velshi.

ali will be back next weekend. catch him from 10 am to noon eastern. stay right where you are, alex witt reports begins right now. eports begins right now. >> if you from msnbc headquarters in new york, welcome everyone to alex witt reports. we have developing for you this hour, donald trump, trying to keep his hold on the republican party, giving it a nearly two-hour speech to close out cpac, after dominating the stronghold with 52%, the former president has some fiery words. >> in 2016, i declared, i am your voice. today, i add, i am your warrior, i am your justice. and for those who have been wronged and betrayed, i am your retribution, i am your retribution. >> the former president was also asked if you are drop out of the 2024 race if he is

indicted. here is his answer. >> i would not even think about leaving. these are fake stories, these are horrible. the press is pressing them to do something. and i think it is very sad for our country, i think it is very dangerous for our country. >> now, trump has won less challenger to worry about. former maryland governor larry hogan said today he will not seek the republican nomination for president. but in the democratic field, a new candidate is emerging this weekend. author and spiritual adviser, marianne williamson, launching her presidential campaign in washington, d.c.. earlier today, she made her pitch to voters here on msnbc. >> i am going to do everything possible as a patriotic american to make sure that the fascist, authoritarian threat that is very real and our country, and is very entrenched at this point, within the republican party, does not win the white house in 2024. that is why i am running.

>> and today, on a series of recent near misses being investigated by the faa, including this re-creation you are seeing there, of an incident in austin, texas. earlier today, publican senator gab sullivan stressed the need to take action to better prevent incidents like the one you are seeing. >> they much more aggressive focus on updating their technology and infrastructure that has come out in the hearings. i think that is something that we need to make sure. again, proactively, what we don't want happening is some kind of airplane disaster, and then congress is writing legislation to deal with it after. >> and new concerns today as fox news host tucker carlson prepares to air security footage from the january 6th attack. earlier today, house minority leader hakeem jeffries, sounding the alarm over what may be shared, and how it could be presented. >> it is not yet clear to me that material footage, that any

news personality of another network may have has been vetted, but it must absolutely be that did it before anything is released into the public domain. they are serious security concerns with really seeing footage in the public domain, in an era where political violence is on the rise. >> a sweeping day of news and headlines. we have a number of reporters covering all of it for you. first, let's go to capitol hill, and congressional correspondent julie tsirkin, who is following the new fallout today over the gop-led weaponization committee. so julie, welcome. what is the new twist we are hearing from congressman jim jordan? >> well, jim jordan, who is the chair, not only of weaponization subcommittee, but also the overall house judiciary panel, that is looking into, on the weaponization committee, this alleged bias from the federal government, this alleged bias against conservatives that democrats have been repeatedly saying since thursday night, is nonexistent and fabricated. today, jordan was on fox news, revealing those closed-door

interviews, with three whistleblowers -- that is what he is calling them, saying they were specifically focused on pro life attacks against the fbi in the wake of the roe v. wade decision. that is something that attorney general garland already disapproved before the senate judiciary committee this week. take a listen to what jordan has to say in terms of the overall goal of this panel. watch. >> in the end, the real power of congress, of the legislative branch is the power of the person. and we will have to use that. this funding can be used for ex, cannot be used for why, or limit the funding overall. those are the things you have to do, or you don't have the leverage to change, this behavior we are seeing from these agencies. >> a group of the gop, which seems to be so concerned with wastefulness, and you know, saving taxpayer money. they are the ones wasting money on individuals who are not whistleblowers. they do not need the legal

definition of whistleblower. >> so, wow you have jordan there, saying ultimately they want to pursue legislation and the appropriations committee, he says the real power in leverage here lies within the power of that first, purse, potentially limiting the funds of the fbi and dhs as well are receiving. then, you have plaskett at the end there, the top democrat on this panel, who let this staff report released on thursday, about the so-called whistleblower's, who could be interviewed. saying if they are really concerned about the wasteful taxpayer spending, they should pay attention to the very mission of this committee. by the way, democrats on the panel say there may be weaponization of the government, but it is not the kind that republicans are alleging. so, a lot to watch here as the panel gets ready for their second hearing on the twitter files coming up this week. >> absolutely. thank you for keeping walked for us, julie tsirkin. consider the activists are making it clear that donald trump is still there man going into the 2024 election. from dave make you know address, the keynote address wrapping up

cpac estelline, a grievance-filled speech, that lasted nearly two hours, nbc's vaughn hillyard was there, and as more from washington. vaughn? >> the scene at cpac last night made it very clear, despite nikki haley already jumping into the presidential race, and others considering the challenge as well, it will be no easy feat, to get any conservative activists harden support from former president trump. >> last night, donald trump, grabbing the harness of the maga base. >> i am thrilled to be back at cpac! >> the type of republican activist he is relying on to cap -- catapult him back into the white house. >> we are going to see this battle through to ultimate victory. we are going to make america great again. >> at cpac, the annual conservative gathering, a wild scene of a republican enthusiasts, and a crowd, overwhelmingly supportive of trump's 2024 bid. >> donald trump. >> i am a mega guy, through and through. >> ain't nobody stopping him. >> who comes to mind? >> it is like 30 21 trump over

desantis. >> an arena most other possible republican contenders opted to avoid, except for nikki haley, the only major declared challenger to trump. >> if you are tired of losing, put your trust in a new generation. >> haley, heckled by several on the way out. a straw poll taken at cpac shows attendees favoring trump over florida governor, ron desantis, by more than 40 points. desantis did not attend cpac. he has yet to announce his presidential run. >> either presidential candidate for republican? >> he could be, if you want to be. >> why should the folks not turn to him if he makes the case, that is a new generation? >> i've done something no one else has been able to do. >> they conference here, filled with trump allies, including former brazilian president, hired bolsonaro. bolsonaro made unsubstantiated claims of a stolen election in his home country. his supporters attacked the capitol in january. he gave us his first on camera interview with the u.s. tv outlet since losing his reelection bid. >> would you urge, the others

around the world, to resist the election denialism we have seen play out in america and brazil? [speaking non-english] >> translator: what we want is transparency, he said. we want to respect, the will of the people. >> former president trump also affirmed last night he would not drop out of the presidential race, in a scenario where he were to be indicted, in any of the multiple investigations surrounding him. including those related to his own election internal claims. >> okay. thank you so much for that, vaughn hillyard. let's go to breaking news from overnight. another derailment of a norfolk southern freight train in ohio, in fact. this one caught on video. so take a look at the train, it clearly falls off of the rails. we are expecting another news conference later today. officials are saying right now that the train was not carrying any hazardous materials. fortunately, they are confident this incident will not be a repeat of last month's disaster, in east palestine, the derailment there which sent

tons of toxic chemicals into the environment. nbc's jessi kirsch is in brooksville, ohio, with the very latest. >> norfolk southern has been under intense scrutiny, follow the toxic train derailment in east palestine, ohio. now, but 2020 miles away, in springfield, ohio, a second virulent for that company. this one, caught on video. you can see cars the railing here. officials say roughly 20 cars were out late yesterday afternoon in springfield township, ohio, that is outside columbus. authorities say norfolk southern have met with the state environmental protection agency, all independently inspecting the crash site. none found evidence of spillage. norfolk southern says no hazardous materials are involved. zardous >> the governor of ohios he believed no hazardous materials were involved. how weather, officials asked people within 1000 feet of the derailment site to shelter in place for hours. that shelter in place has been lifted at this point. this comes after that toxic

train derailment in east palestine, ohio. residents there are still skeptical of what they are hearing from the government and the railroad about the safety of the air and the water in that community. senator brown from the state of ohio, calling that collection of incidents in the state with norfolk southern unacceptable. back to you. >> okay, jessica, thank you for that. meanwhile, crime and punishment. what president biden did this past week, and how it might help democrats in 2024. plus, have you heard about this? reports of china having private police stations across the united states. we hear from one congressman who rallied against this, just a few days ago. so automatic emergency braking and lane departure warning work properly. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ (psst psst) ahhhh...

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sunday. but in washington, democrats are debating his decision to support a republican backed d.c. crime bill. the president says he will sign the measure, breaking with 173 house democrats who voted against it. let's go to nbc's allie raffa standing by at the white house. ali, welcome. what are we hearing from the democrats today? what is their argument against it? >> yes, alex. as president biden prepares to head to alabama, the aftermath of that announcement from earlier this week, saying he would not veto this legislation, if it went to his desk, it is still causing waves. remember, some house democrats have said they felt blindsided by this, that they wish they had a warning as u.s. president biden would decide to handle this before they voted against it the week before. the white house has pushed back on that saying they did give house democrats a heads up on how president biden would decide on this legislation, which got the d.c. criminal code, but would among other

things, eliminate most mandatory sentences and lower penalties for some violent offenses here in the district. so today, we are hearing some more reaction from house democrats on the sunday show, specifically, house minority leader hakeem jeffries, who voted against this bill last week. he was asked whether he felt like president biden swept the rug from underneath him with this surprise decision. listen to what he had to say. >> well, we have a house. we have a senate. then, we have the white house. in terms of my particular reasons for voting the way that i did, one, i believe that local government should have control over local matters. i don't want to characterize what president biden may or may not be -- due. >> will be a mistake? >> it might be a mistake, what he might not do, but i say i will continue to support the principle of local government control over local matters. >> jeffries, notably avoiding

casting any blame on president biden for this, simply saying he will not speak prematurely, because this vote is expected to be taken out by the senate this coming week. we have already seen some senate democrats pledged their support for this. as a matter of fact, immediately after the presidents announcement, we saw democratic pennsylvania senator bob casey announced that he was going to vote with republicans on this bill, which just needs a simple majority to pass. so it is expected to pass, when it gets to president biden's desk. this move as a whole, alex, definitely a conscious decision on the presidents part ahead of the 2024 election, where crime is expected to continue being a major issue. of course, we have seen democrats in past elections take a targeted attack from republicans for being too soft on crime. that was definitely a conscious decision on part of the president in those 24 hours. >> thank you very much for the, allie raffa. we will continue that conversation as i'm joined now by new york congressman richie

torres, a democratic member of the select committee on china and financial services committees. welcome back to the broadcast, good to see you. in fact, you are among the democrats voted against overriding this d.c. law. did you think that you are on the side of the white house when you voted that way? >> you know, i did not speculate about where the white house would stand, i voted against the legislation because at the philosophical objections to congress functioning as a local, rather than a national legislature. i was elected as a congressman to decide national issues. and we should leave it to local governments to decide local issues. so, we should show respect for the principle of local control, which is the basis for the parties support for d.c. statehood. >> you heard my correspondent, ali, at the white house saying at the very end, there were some politics in this. do you feel 2024 politics had a hand in the presidents decision?

>> whatever i would say would be pure speculation. so i have no desire to speculate. with philly to veto the d.c. bill, will have no electoral benefit for the democratic party whatsoever, this will not be a decisive issue in the 2024 elections. so i fail to see the political value of failing to veto this legislation. >> i do see your point there, especially in terms of timing. let's move on to fox news host, tucker carlson, who said, as you well know, you will ail -- air the surveillance video from the january 6th attacks, on his show this week. we know he was given exclusive access to this footage from house speaker kevin mccarthy. tell me what concerns you have about how this video will be presented, and how should democrats respond to it? >> i find it outrageous that speaker mccarthy would exclusively release january 6th footage to tucker carlson.

tucker carlson has been the face and voice of january 6th denial in america. asking a january 6th denier to essentially investigate the january 6th insurrection makes a mockery of congress as an institution. and that video footage contains, you know, information about the secret locations in the united states congress. january 6th was my third day on the job. i was brought to a secure location. it is not in the security interest of our country to have those locations disclosed. and i have no confidence that tucker carlson, and january 6th denier, will release that information. >> you are agreeing with the sentiments of everyone with whom i have spoken on this broadcast about this. but let's move on to something i am most curious about. the rally that you held last weekend with republican mike gallagher, joined chinese dissidents and human rights advocates rallying against an alleged chinese police station in new york city?

what can you tell us about this alleged police station? what is it even doing their? and is this more common than we think in the u.s.? >> so as you know, the chinese communist party is one of the worst human rights violators in the world. it has a global system of surveillance, that got only includes high altitude spy balloons in the air, but also overseas police stations on the ground, according to a human rights organization, safeguarded defenders. it's more than 100 police stations in more than 50 countries, in countries like the united states, in cities like new york. and the purpose of the ccpcs transnational policing is not to solve crime, it is to surveil, and suppress human rights activists, chinese dissidents who have had the courage to speak out and resist the abuses of the ccp. i spoke to those dissidents, who had been terrorized, threatened, their family members have been terrorized and threatened. and i am in awe of their

courage. we in the united states need to stand with them in solidarity. >> i am still at a loss to understand how this chinese surveillance situation, a police station of sorts is even allowed to exist here, with the goal of doing what it is doing. i mean, how commonly known is this? >> i mean, it is known to observers of the ccp. it is certainly known to human rights activists in the chinese diaspora. but it is largely unknown to the general public. and these police stations are illegal. in order for a foreign government to conduct, to legally conduct police operations here in the united states, you need to secure the approval of both the justice and state department. and none of these police stations have the approval of the u.s. government. >> here is the deal, you are on this select committee on china. can congress do something about this? >> the answer is yes. so, the fbi raided and searched

the police station outside of which, we held the rally. we will continue to ensure the fbi has the resources it needs to fight against ccp espionage, here in the united states, and elsewhere in the world. >> just extraordinary to bring this to light. i do appreciate that. let me ask you as well at the house ethics committee. as you know, they opened an investigation into george santos. but this comes after you and congressman dan goldman, who filed the ethics complaint against san jose for violating house rules. is your filing what triggered this investigation, not what was known in the public realm, on capitol hill and elsewhere for months now? and do you think things are headed in a direction which hold this republican accountable for his incredible lies? >> well, as i understand the basis for a house ethics investigation as an official complaint which came from congressman dan goldman and myself, as well as several others, who had complaints

against mr. santos, george santos has admitted that he is a terrible liar, which to his credit is the most honest thing he has ever said. i suspect the house ethics investigation will reveal that he is a terrible law breaker. he has violated finance law, security law, house ethics and that his conduct is unbecoming of a congressman. having said all of that, if he is indicted, even before the completion of the house ethics investigation, the pressure to expel him will be overwhelming. the expulsion of george santos, i predict, it is a question of when. >> can i just ask you, the whispers in the hallowed halls of congress, off the record, do republicans with whom you speak say this guy is a clown, he is an embarrassment and he has got to go, is that whispered anywhere? >> it is more than whispered, it is said out loud. >> by republicans? >> in this district. the majority of republicans in the district favored his

resignation. the majority of republicans in his own delegation, the new york delegation have called on him to resign. you know, he is so radioactive, that of his constituents or colleagues left anything. i am surprised if this doesn't get overturned. >> okay. congressman ritchie torres, good to see you, we will definitely return your phone call here anytime, that is a guarantee. thank you very much. later on cpac, the next generation. how one of his speakers hit a new low, which is beyond anything you would ever want to hear. plus, some of the panels you missed out on by not going. here they are. parents with pitchforks. no chinese balloon above tennessee. plus, finish the wall, build the dome, and the list goes on and on. d on now ports can know where every piece of cargo is. and where it's going. (dock worker) right on time. (vo) robots can predict breakdowns and order their own replacement parts. (foreman) nice work.

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remarks honoring the legacy of those that marked up marched on that dark day in 1965. and that is where we find nbc's antonia hylton. and, tony. welcome i'm curious what you are hearing from folks there ahead of the presidents arrival. >> hey, i. likes people here are great deeply grateful to the president for joining the commemoration here in selma. he is expected to get to town around 3:30 eastern time, and to address the crowd. from what i've heard from people here on the, ground is they want to hear too. things the first, an acknowledgment of where we are right now in terms of access to the ballot box and voting rights in the station. and really a connection between the history of what happened, here 58 years ago, with the moment in the ways in which many communities like the black community here are still fighting for some of these rights. according to the biden, center there are about 150 bills in motion justice year, in various state legislatures, that seek to restrict voting access in various ways. and so many of the people,

particularly some of the adult elderly generations who are here, who brought their kids and grandkids with the men are trying to pass the message on to them, they want the president to show a commitment from the administration. for, example to talk about how he might work with lawmakers to make the john lewis voting rights act actually move through right now. that is on one hand. and then you have the other piece of what is happening locally here in selma, which is that this community is still in, loss is still grieving. after a tornado tore through here just a few weeks, ago and devastated so many people's homes. take a listen to the conversation you had with one marcher here today. >> i want to hear the president talk about how they are going to help selma, alabama. i feel like there has been a lot of changes, but there is still work to do. it is definitely importance that's the president talk to the people here in selma about what he is going to do.

not only here but with the nation as a whole. >> people, it really is that two-pronged, peace. here talking about the national importance of voting rights, talking about the history of and the legacy of john lewis here, and what happened here in bloody sunday. but, also they want to see mike should get out and talk to residents who are suffering so greatly right. now they want him to tour some of the devastation in this community, and talk to the people of selma. directly so the president is going to be here in just a few hours to get those remarks, and to walk across the bridge. mostly folks have talked to her today, alex, just that alone is going to mean a lot to them. >> absolutely. extraordinary symbolism in doing so. thank you very much for that, report antonio hilton there from selma. coming up, next new reaction to the unexpected bombshell report on havana syndrome, and government claims that no foreign actor was involved in it.

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and author. i welcome you both. miles, your voices want to hear on. this you've suffered at least two episodes of what you thought to be havana syndrome. the name still seems to apply to. it what did you think when you saw the findings? >>, alex look. in my case i don't know what happened. this was before a lot of this became very public. in 2018 in 2019 there were suspicious incidences at my house on capitol hill, the address agents were calls to do the investigation. some of it i am still not able to talk about. edition to there being an unusual nighttime event on two separate occasions, which mirrored havana syndrome, there was already a break in. and because of sensitive communications equipment semi, house this was an incident of concern. but whether or not my home was targeted by a foreign adversary, and whether or not these other victims were targeted by a foreign adversary, what we do know is this. these people did not do this to themselves. these are not immaculate concussions that came out of

nowhere. we are talking about hundreds of people in sensitive national security positions, many of whom have white matter legions on their brains to prove that something happened to them. unless these people with top secret clearances hit themselves in the head with hammers before bedtime, i think there's something more suspicious going on here. so there is a lot of frustration not just among the victims families, but also in the intelligence community. i am close to people who are part of the investigation, and despite the five intelligence agencies coming to this conclusion, a lot of the investigators still are not sure that they should be as definitive as this. people who i talked to say that just because they did not find any smoking gun does not mean a gun was not fired. and i think that is the very important finding. here with the intelligence scientific panel they said there was a good chance that this was a directed energy weapon. but i think the key here is that the investigation is not done, and we expected this from the start,. alex that when you put at a poll for people to come in with tips, you are going to get a

lot of these cases that have alternative causes. it muddies the water. just like in a murder case, because you put that tips in most do not pan out does not mean a murder did not happen. so i think there is more to the story here and steve astonishing. continues >> i writer narrative of what. happens a number of. things it was most peculiar, that 13 or 3:30 in the morning, you wake up and have these ringing headaches and you feel terrible. you go to your window, you see a white van and it bolts the second it can see somebody looking at the window. there is a lot of suspicious stuff here. that said, tell me what you experienced physically and if you still have any lingering effects. >> yes,. alex the night that this happened, the second time this happened, was what was very unusual to me. it was an intelligence official who actually encouraged me to go report. this i remember this vividly because it was the night before we were slated to fly it to israel at dhs to go meet with prime minister benjamin netanyahu. while i am on the way to andrews air force base to get on the plane, i am feeling like

i'm going to vomit. like i've had a massive concussion. and all i did was go to bed the night before, i heard the suspicious sounds, and saw a car outside. so i get to the, airport i get on the plane, i mostly i'm complaining to this intelligence official who was flying with us. and the light bulb went off in his head. he, said i am really worried this is something else. he had been involved in the investigation of havana syndrome, and i had not been tied to it. that led to me that reporting this through the appropriate channels. it also led me to get connected with several other senior level people in the administration who had experience similar. things they had gone to bed on a normal, night woken up with massive concussions, heard unusual noises in the night. a sort of buzzing sound. and they could not explain the cause. again, at the time, there was not as much public attention around this. in, fact there had been no reports of anything happening inside the u.s. homeland. that led us to be concerned that maybe this had spread a little further than cuba. whatever it was.

again, i don't presume to know that a foreign adversary came and attacked my house, but i do know that what we experienced at my home was similar to what a lot of other intelligence folks experience. and, again it's not like we all huddled in the group together and decided to go report fake symptoms. what is unusual about this is how desperate these audiences are. we don't know each other. and, again people who are interested positions. many of whom have top secret insensitive compartmented information, clearances. i think what is disturbing is that years in, we still don't know what happened to many of us. >> and, listen the fact is that cia director bill burns has been very careful to say the findings do not call into question those health issues that were suffered by the government personnel. including cia officers. but he also added. is we apply the agencies very best operational analytic and technical trade craft to one of the largest and most intensive investigations in the agency's history. so tracey, what do you understand from his statement?

>> first of, all i think that director burns and hazen have done a wonderful job of handling this internally with folks who have been affected by this. i think it is very important. i am sure that they are not happy about these findings right now. and i feel they've done an excellent job in handling it. but i want to take that reporting just one step further, if i may. the report went on to further state something which i found a little interesting. even in geographic locations where the u.s. had malicious actors and a complete ability to monitor the circumstances, they did not find any evidence of this. that is the statement i found the most interesting. i cannot think of a, place as a former cia, officer it malicious country where we have poll range to investigate situations like these. i found that to be a very interesting part of this reporting. i don't know how they could have conducted a complete and thorough investigation in some countries that we don't even

have embassies in, they're considered to be hostile. also, something about this goes back to 1990. six and i say declassified documents in 2014. about an individual named michael, bet who had traveled to a malicious country. and came back with a very similar symptoms. that we were discussing before. this has been going on for a while. this reporting of these symptoms. but i also think that all of this raises an even broader question. as to how we treat veterans of the intelligence community. they do not get the same benefits that military veterans do. and it is really important that director burns keeps this communication open, and helps address their mental and physical health. >> i want to go back to you, miles, with the hill which reports in the attorney representing roughly two dozen people experiencing this dismissed a new report by arguing, quote, this backs of

what you are saying, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. did investigators reach urge to you to ask you about your systems, or symptoms? what else could it have ben? i know you are not satisfied with the complete results, saying there is going to be more to. it is this the end of the investigation officially? >> i have got, to alex, first, align myself with tracey's comments. i know bill burns and i know the people involved in this at the highest levels. i know that they had every intent to get this right. people were really trying to get this right. but as a mark as a note, the attorney pointed out that the absence of evidence does not mean something did not happen, there is still an unsolved mystery here and it cannot be explained is just sort of a masked illusion because again we have physical evidence. there are bullet holes here. if we didn't [interpreter] [interpreter] have the smoking gun, we have white matter lesions on

people's brains that were not there the night before. something happened. they are highly unusual. tracy also knows this from her time in the intelligence community, i will not be too specific. our foreign adversaries have capabilities. nefarious capabilities, that we cannot detect. in other domains. whether this was a sonic device or some directed energy weapon, i don't think we're quite ready to roll acts that a foreign adversary did not make this happen. maybe that they did not make it happen with the direct energy device, but the worry here is that something else could be at play. people part of the investigation remain very frustrated because in some cases it is their own colleagues to come back with these injuries and they are not all unseen. some of these people voting up with these injuries with crossed eyes and the inability to even complete their jobs. they have had to immediately retire from their jobs, crippled as if somebody came into the apartment to beat them close to death overnight. some of the investigators watch their colleagues experience the snow very frustrated that we do not have answers.

this is one of those things that we will look back on years and years from now and realize there is a key and moment we could've solve this and we didn't. it hasn't happened, yet but i applaud the folks in the telecoms community who want to keep this investigation. going >> you make a very good argument for doing, so i want to thank you both. miles and tracy good to see you both. in a theater of the absurd into the cruel, why the new generation of cpac was resorted to name-calling in joking about the prominent democrat suffering. 50% off?! that deal's so good we don't even need an eight-time all-star to tell you about it. wait what? get it before it's gone on the subway app! (male announcer) important information for viewers age 50 to 85. wahave you thought about getting life insurance to help your family with funeral expenses, but worried it would cost too much or that you wouldn't qualify? at colonial penn, we talk to men and women like you every day. and today i'd like to share three questions they often ask

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future of the gop. donald trump closing at the cpac by showing a stranglehold on the party. when he is trouble with 62% of the. vote what was once the premier event for conservatives as taken over by micah. with many trump allies embracing his brand of politics. >> this fight has come to us. we did not ask for, it but we

have the weapons to win. it will require all of us to stand and fight alongside one another and we must stand united in this battle against actual evil. >> we either get this government back on our side or we defunds and guess red of and abolish the fbi and the cdc and the atf. doj! every last one of them! if they do not come to heal! >> the left has told us something that should put fear in the heart of every parent and not just parents but every single person. they said they are coming for our children. >> here's a look at some of the events held during the conference, including parents with pitchforks. finish the, wall built the dome. and sacking the woke playbook. joining me now is john, calloway democratic strategist and founder of the national voter protection action fund. susanville, percio republican

strategist and david, jolly republican congressman from. florida msnbc political, analysts much below sunday family. let me tell you, guys i could see your faces as you are listening to all of. that they were, glum of not quizzical. like, what? if you are, you could point to some substantive quote idea coming out of cpac, but it would not even matter because the loudest ways in the gop or the extreme winds. consider the panel topics. consider those people you just heard. is this how republicans are effectively defining themselves? this must put all future elections of any kind for the gop in peril. i, mean david, doesn't make any sense to you? >> it doesn't. but this is the center of. control i'm not sure marjorie taylor greene's. correct and i think anybody in the left said they're coming for your, children matt gates was a spacing of insurrectionist themes, saying we're going to topple the federal government. but --

alex. >> that would bring him to. he'll but very importantly, his focus is on lower attendance and the people who did not speak at the event. but look who. days and to date is actually the members of congress who control the election of the. speaker it is the heartbeat of the movement. gates, marjorie taylor greene and others. and so donald trump that goes in and wins the straw poll, it is not statistically significant in the primary, but it is significant to suggest that the group were overlooked a 60 minute should be in control of the party in 2024. >> don, it gets. worst donald trump junior in his speech attacked john fetterman over his recovery from a stroke. it was not about policy, it was just a lowbrow and offensive into shameful and misguided attack on a fellow human being. how does anybody think this might work politically? a vile personal attack. where does it get you? >> i think it gets to the

hearts and minds of people who understand the trump philosophy, which is the cruelty is the point. cruelty is a pillar of their governing philosophy. if you are a republican, and you do not like liberal politics, and all that comes with that, and you disagree with me on everything else, imagine that there is somebody who's probably had a stroke in your family. and they did not deserve that. they do not bring it upon themselves. they did not wish for. it elicited we think we should think about. the basic humanism, as you said. this is what you are losing by following the brand of republicanism that is a spouse by cpac. i am somewhat heartened by the lower attendance, because it shows some was it somewhat circumstantial evidence that the cpac crowd is losing its hold on the republican party. but in a burst of a crowded primary, they are still a force to be reckoned with and i am not jealous of my friends david and susan for having to wrangle without elements. >> let's take a look with, you susan, into what new hampshire

republican governor chris sununu said about trump's role in the party. which happen to meet the press today. take a listen. >> i think he's going, to run. obviously he's on the. rice he's not gonna be the nominee, that's just not going to happen. so i think there is a lot of opportunity to re-inform what the republican party, not widely war, not yesterday's leadership for yesterday's story or crying about what happened in november of 22, but what we are going to bring to the table and get done tomorrow. that is what america is looking for. >> how is he social, or susan? after seeing this weekend cpac contest, -- do you sense this is a party that is ready to move? on what lies ahead for republicans who want to challenge trump? >> 62% of cpac in the stroll it is a horrible result for donald trump. i, mean this has been dubbed cpac. this is donald trump's show, and you can only get 62% of his own people. that is not to say is power over the party is there.

i read something very interesting in i believe it was political or axios over the weekend. donald trump met with the state republican leadership of no valerie saintly. mar-a-lago. donald trump is playing the campaign strategy all he needs to do is get a 35%. and it is one or take. all he still does have that grip and if the other thing that stuck out to me is listening to governor sununu and nikki haley, they come from two different ideas of what the new generation is. and i am afraid that nikki haley's new generation of leadership, which is a new generation of hate, as you just showed, is where the party currently is. i hope there is room for governor sununu. but as of now, it does not exist. >> i have a minute left. i'm gonna ask you all the same question.

starting with you, david. looking at the reporting on the 2024 strategy for biden. reporting that the president's team is moving pretty quickly to potential rivals for a national advisory board. democratic governors, senators, other party stars would be traveling in speaking on the president's behalf. and then he can focus on different states as they earn another place. it is like two for one of the same time. it is going to make anyone hesitate to challenge the president, david, then you don, then susan. >> there is only one democratic candidate in 2020, for it is joe. biden he is a record to run on and the republican party has been the kept by his success. this is joe biden's, party and it should be his election in 24. >> don? >> you have to get eric adams the heck out of that advisor listing for the disasters here in new york. it looks like a verse, and an extraordinary roster of talent. they're all there to do is going to tell them what the president has done. >> last, review susan. >> it is a great strategy. all those people getting all

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