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teacher. i would like to think it's just a pause, but i honestly don't know right now. >> reporter: in the fall sayerville, new jersey, sent out flyers hoping to inspire people to help. three retired teachers returned to the job, but the district still has 12 vacancies. >> we were starting to experience a little bit of the shortage last year, but it seems that we hit the pinnacle this year. >> did it get worse? >> without a doubt. >> reporter: the key, educators say, is getting young college students to choose the pro sneegs our message to them is you couldn't ask for a more noble field. if you really want to make an impact on this world, this is where it's to be done. >> thanks to stephanie gosk for that report. we've got a lot to cover in our second hour of "chris jansing reports." let's get right to it. at this hour, a french revolution. hundreds of thousands of demonstrators are going out and
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they're striking over plans to raise the retirement age. rising tensions, tough new talk from china's foreign minister who warns that u.s. and china are headed for confrontation and conflict, unless the u.s. changes course. state of emergency. the situation increasingly dire in communities in the southern california mountains. residents remain trapped after that unprecedented snowfall. and we're about to get an update from the state department on the late news that two of the four americans kidnapped in mexico last week are dead. what we're learning now about the whereabouts and conditions of the other two americans. our nbc news reporters are around the country and world with the latest developments. we want to begin at the state department where we're about to hear from those officials for the first time since we learned of the american deaths in mexico. nbc's morgan chesky is in brownsville, texas, just north of where the americans were kidnapped. what are the big unanswered
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questions we're hoping to get answers for later today? what can you tell us from brownsville? >> reporter: chris, what we're hoping to hear from officials here in a few minutes will be filling in a timeline where this crime played out across one of the board bridges in matamoros. since then, chris, we essentially had three days of unnonknowns. we didn't know where these americans were. we didn't know who took them, until we heard the update today, and a very unfortunate one at that, from the state governor of tamaulipas who said that two americans are still alive, however two others perished in the kidnapping that took place at gunpoint. according to the attorney general of that mexican state, chris, he has said that the two survivors have been brought from mexico to the united states. i can tell you while their specific location remains unknown by u.s. officials, i did
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personally just go to valley regional medical center, a hospital here in brownsville. there was a heavy police presence out front where two brownsville ambulances. whatever we spoke to hospital management, chris, we were referred to the fbi. that is the situation at the hospital right now as to how it's being handled. again, what we anticipate hearing from the state department will be the u.s. confirmation of what we've been hearing over the course of the last 24 hours from mexican officials as to this tragic ordeal that took place. according to a family member, all because one woman in this group of four from south carolina wanted to cross the bridge here in brownsville and go to matamoros for a cosmetic procedure that unfortunately has resulted in we believe the death of two americans. >> morgan chesky, thank you for the update. now to california where there is new urgency in the race to reach people who are still trapped in their homes after
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record-breaking snow. nbc's dana griffin is in cresdana, aef cases critical medicine. we talked about this yesterday, but, obviously, as every day goes by, the situation escalates. tell us where we are right now and is the snow at least over? >> reporter: chris, first of all, good afternoon. at this point, it's not over, especially in northern california. the sierra nevada, there's an atmospheric river system projected to move in thursday night through friday which could dump an extra foot to 3 feet of snow there. the bigger concern in southern california is warm rain that could melt a lot of the snowpack we have here. there's so much here, there's not really a lot -- there's nowhere for it to go and there's flooding concerns because of that. now, there's been a concern for the safety and well-being for residents, especially in the higher elevations here in crestline because some of them have roads that remain unplowed
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and many are concerned that they may be without power. officials have confirmed there are still power outages in this area and with temperatures dipping into the 30s, there's a huge concern there. we spoke with one resident yesterday who described just his journey from hiking from his home down to town just to get some bare necessities. listen. >> let's go to the state department. this is ned price, who is the spokesperson. let's listen. >> to them and their families and we extend our deepest con doll lances to the family and loved ones of the deceased. we thank our mexican and u.s. law enforcement partners for their efforts to find these innocent victims and the task forward is to ensure that justice is done. next, earlier today at the launch of the 2023 joint response plan for the rohingya crisis in bangladesh the united states announced $26 million in additional humanitarian assistance for rohingya refugees in the region.
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for those affected in burma by ongoing violence and the communities hosting refugees from burma. with this new funding our total assistance for the rohingya crisis has reached $2.1 billion since august of 2017, when over 740,000 rohingya were forced to flee to safety in bangladesh. it allows our humanitarian partners to continue providing life-saving help to both sides including nearly 980,000 rohingya reffies hosted by bangladesh, 740,000 of whom arrived in the months following august 2017 when they were forced to flee genocide crimes against humanity, ethnic cleansing, and other horrific atrocities and abuses perpetrated by burma's military and states. this will provide assistance to 540,000 host community members and others affected by ongoing violence in burma. the united states appreciates
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the generosity of the government of bangladesh and the hospitality of the people in hosting rohingya refugees, now that we are in the sixth year of this protracted crisis. we remain committed to working towards durable solution to the crisis and will continue to partner with the government of bangladesh, the rohingya community, host communities, and people inside burma to ensure coordinated and well supported response to this humanitarian crisis. the international community must remain steadfast in our commitment to alleviating the suffering of the world's most vulnerable people including through the rohingya crisis response. with that happy to take questions. >> can i just ask you to extrapolate on what you said about mexico. you're saying, yes, you have now been able to confirm two of the four were killed? >> that's correct. >> and that the other -- and that other two are now back in the u.s., the two survivors? >> the two survivors have been
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repatriated back to the united states, that occurred with the assistance of our mexican partners with the assistance of our officials in mexico. we are in the process of working to repatriate the remains of the two americans who were killed in this incident. >> so those bodies are not back? >> not yet. >> and i understand that the investigation is still early, but do you have any reason to believe that they were targeted? >> just as you said, the investigation is in its earliest days. i understand we may have more to share from the fbi at the appropriate time, but from the department of state it's important for us not to impinge on investigative equities in an investigation like this, that implicates the kidnapping of four americans, the death of two americans, and two americans who
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survived what, by all accounts, must have been a traumatic and harrowing experience. >> yeah. go ahead. >> have you been following the situation in georgia since there were clashes between the protesters and the police and use of the military and law enforcement power? this is over the kremlin inspired legislation we talked extensively in the last few weeks. >> we have been closely following developments in georgia in recent hours. we've seen the reports emanating from ta blissy and seen reports that protesters have been met with tear gas, with other efforts to repress and suppress the protests against this draft called foreign agents legislation. our message to the people of georgia, to the government georgia, to people in
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governments around the world, is that the united states stands with all of those who are peacefully exercising what is a universal right. it is a universal right to people around the world to assemble, to have their voices heard, to speak freely, to hold their own governments accountable. we are going to continue to monitor the situation on the ground in georgia, but our message is that peaceful protesters should be allowed to exercise that right peacefully. that is a right that is available to people in georgia. it is a right that is available to people in every country around the world. >> and lastly, the latest statement starts with the sentence, today is a dark day for georgia's democracy and the entire text is the harshest that i've ever seen throughout the 30 plus years -- >> we'll continue to listen to the state department in case ned price has anything to say about
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the horrific situation in mexico. four americans kidnapped, two murdered, one injured, all -- the two others are back, but as you heard him say, the bodies are not back yet. nbc's ken dilanian is with us with retired four-star general mccaffrey who served as the clinton administration's drug czar. both the white house, we heard from their briefing, and the briefing we're getting from the state department, they don't want to get ahead of things. this is very much an early and active investigation. but what do we know about what happened to those four americans and the state of the investigation? >> that was the first confirmation we have gotten from american officials that two of the four were killed and we've learned that bodies of the dead have not been repatriated to the united states. the two survivors were taken to the u.s. according to mexican authorities believed to be in a hospital near brownsville, texas.
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what happened according to law enforcement sources a case of mistaken identity. four americans traveling to mexico so one could get a cosmetic surgery procedure. both the u.s. officials we talked to and the family members confirmed that from south carolina, myrtle beach, some of these people, and when they crossed the border, they were accosted by cartel gunman who may have believed they were haitian smuggler encroaching on their turf. the gunmen fired at these americans and some were hit and we're seeing the video of the americans dragged into the white pick-up truck and they were taken. there's a lot we don't know about what transpired after that. it appears that cartel quickly realized its mistake and dropped -- may have dropped these americans off at a medical facility. mexican officials are saying with the help of u.s. intelligence, they located the four americans, found that two were dead and then whisked the two survivors off to u.s. custody. that's what we know. there's a lot, obviously, that
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we don't know. and it's pretty clear that u.s. government is bringing a lot of capabilities to bear, to find the people who did this and bring them to justice, chris? >> general, you have a lot of experience in mexico both as a four-star commander and a drug czar in the clinton administration. what can you tell us about the capabilities that the u.s. government has that they can bring to bear in this situation? >> pretty limited. mexico is a dangerous mess. it's not just a big gulf sinaloa cartels but 200 groups for power. mexicans primarily. the homicide rate in mexico is unbelievable. there may be as many as 77,000 mexicans missing last year and the mexican president has had a
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policy of hugs, not bullets, which is complete nonsense. our law enforcement, as long as they stay out of the press, there's some reasonably low-level cooperation between mexican prosecutors and law enforcement in the u.s. but it's been limited, and, you know, the four border states right now are under state department avoid travel. five of the mexican states have the same level of danger from the state department categorizing them as iraq, afghanistan, and syria. so it's a huge challenge. mexico is our number one trading partner. they're vitally important to the united states and the border is not being controlled adequately. >> there are estimates, it's hard to get real numbers general, but as many as 2 million cross the border for various kinds of health care every year including dental and plastic surgery. 10 million is the latest
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estimate for overall american visitors from back in 2021, including many student s for spring break. they'll be heading that way not long from now. what would you want any american traveling to mexico to know, general? >> you know, i get asked that by friends all the time. i wouldn't dream of going to mexico myself. the last time i was there the mexican government provided me extensive security. i thought i would disappear from the radar and they said no way. it's a dangerous place. mostly americans go down there and have fun and they are safe. but unfortunately, the mexican law enforcement authorities in jen really incompetent, they're corrupt. 20 to 30% of mexico is controlled by the drug cartels. don't let anybody tell you differently. so it's a challenging environment and i think the republicans right now proposed a
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direct war, u.s. military and drug cartels, which is complete nonsense. we can't violate mexican sovereignty in any way. the cooperation with mexican law enforcement authorities is inadequate and we need more resources and more attention. >> so if you're a member of the family of one of these folks who got kidnapped and, god forbid, got killed, understanding the controls that the drug cartels hold in mexico, what does even finding which cartel is responsible, who within that cartel is responsible, and bringing them to justice looks like? is it even possible? >> yeah, i think so. if we amp up the pressure on mexico, stop all tourists into mexico within a week, the cartels would surrender some of their operatives symbolically.
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we can understand what happens in mexico. the problem is, what do you do about it? the mexican authorities, the marine corps in particular, army to some extent, will strike back at the cartels if the president tells them to. they tried that arresting a significant cartel figure in the last year. there were 700 armed mexican cartel members with automatic weapons, anti-tank weapons, armored vehicles, that came out to attack the army when they conducted the operation. control of the mexican countryside is in tenuous hands right now. it's a dangerous place. >> general mccaffrey and ken dilanian, thank you very much. florida governor ron desantis delivering his state of the state address, providing fresh clues about what to expect if he runs for president.
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an escalating war of words between china and the u.s. china's foreign minister warning the two countries are headed for confrontation and conflict unless the u.s. changes course. nbc's josh letterman is in hong kong for us. these comments from the foreign minister echo similarly strong worded comments from china's leader just a day before. bring us up to speed. >> reporter: yeah. that's right, chris. those comments just yesterday from president xi jinping were perhaps even more concerning and important because he is truly the decision maker here, especially as china's national people's congress is set this
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week to finalize a historic third term for president xi who in those comments referred to the u.s. trying to suppress china, to contain china, terms that, obviously, have cold war connotations. in his new conference foreign minister qin gang made reference to the u.s. taking actions that he said would inevitably lead to conflict. he likened it to putting the first button of a shirt on wrong and everything goes haywire interest there. in a way it was not unexpected that china would feel the need to push back, given that over the past several months or so, the biden administration has really ramped up pressure on china in a way that has put it on the defensive on a number of fronts, from that spy balloon incident, to that intelligence about the origins of covid, to, of course, the trade relationship and a number of other issues. so the chinese looking for a way to make clear that they are
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going to respond strongly to that kind of comments from the biden administration. but the white house today responded to the chinese foreign minister saying it is not true that the u.s. is seeking conflict with china. merely, strategic competition, chris? >> josh in hong kong for us, thank you. meantime france today i virtually paralyzed, caught in a sixth round of punishing protests from citizens who are furious over plans to move back the country's official retirement age. nbc's matt bradley is following that story for us. matt, labor unions vowed to send more than a million people into the streets from what i've been reading. it sounds like they've been successful in getting hundreds of thousands. how crippling have the efforts been? >> reporter: yeah. i mean the latest number we're getting from the minister of interior is that 1.28 million people are protesting in some 250 protests nationwide. the actual organizers, the labor
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unions say it's like three times as many people. that's a typical sort of difference between the organizers and the police who are counting them. really, this is a sprawling nationwide protest. it's the sixth one against this particular initiative by president emmanuel macron to try to raise the age of retirement from 62 only to 64. so it's a very small difference, but as historically we've seen in france, those small economic differences that chip away even just mildly at the really strong social safety net that has kept elderly people, students, really by the government since world war ii, inspires protests. if you speak to french people if france, they will tell you it's not the protests causing so much inconvenience necessarily, it's the strikes. that is what we're seeing throughout the country as well. flights, trains, metro systems, and even the delivery of fuel to
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refineries throughout france and on the coast, that is all being done by the same unions trying in the words of the unions to bring the french economy to its knees. this is the kind of language that is being used, bringing the economy to its knees in order to stop the retirement age from going up by just two years. now president macron and the prime minister, also on his side, this is not a divided government as we have seen in the past in france, say they need to do this because of the demographic changes in france. people are getting older and the social safety net needs to account for more and more elderly people as french people live longer. the unions say this is hurting ordinary workers who have been beleaguered for generations. both sides are seeming willing to dig in and the sixth such protest since january. you can expect to see a lot more. chris? >> matt bradley, thank you for that. today in florida a feast of republican red meat in the form
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of governor ron desantis' state of the state address. he outlined his legislative agenda pushing priorities that could serve as a blueprint for his 2024 presidential run. it puts him on a collision course with donald trump as they fight for the same conservative voters. >> our schools must deliver a good education, not a political indoctrination. a constitutional right should not require a permission slip from the government. it's time we join 25 other states to enact constitutional carry in the state of florida. florida is not a sanctuary state and we will uphold the rule of law. i can promise you this, you ain't seen nothing yet. thank you all. god bless you. >> i'm joined by reporter lawrence mauer who covers florida government and politics for the tampa bay times and miami herald and susan, a msnbc
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political analyst. you were writing about this expecting to give ron desantis months of headlines, springboard his anticipated 2024 run. tell us more about it. >> yeah. well this was basically the governor taking the victory lap today. he won re-election by about 20 points. he has a super majority of republicans in the legislature. he can basically do -- have them do whatever he wants right now. that looks to be what's going to happen. i expect more of kind of the same with this governor. he's going to be -- his recipe for success has been to make strong executive decisions that get a lot of headlines, and he's going to have legislators this year carry out his agenda, going after abortion, transgender treatment for minors. there's going to be, you know, bills dealing with allowing, as you heard, constitutional carry,
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quote, unquote, allowing you to carry a gun without a permit and a variety of other things. work reform, which is something that insurance companies have been wanting here for a long time. it's basically kind of like, you know, a wish list of things that republicans have wanted for a long time here, and that desantis thinks he can get done. >> there's a couple of hits on ron desantis, who isn't, frankly, widely known by most americans. they name, right, some of the things you're talking about. they saw him in the battles that happened during covid. but they haven't really seen him as a candidate. they haven't really looked at him as a presidential candidate. here's a couple of things that people criticize about him. they say he's kind of boring. they say he's thin skinned. he has not been tested on the national stage. i'm wondering what you're hearing from donors, other political insiders about the pros and cons and what they think about him possibly running for president against donald
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trump? >> it's a good question. even in florida there are a lot of republicans who still value trump and support trump. he hasn't really been tested on the national stage. he's had a curated image. he does not give sit down interviews to mainstream news outlets. only given three to florida based outlets in his four years as governor. never one to the tampa bay times or miami herald, and it remains to be seen. you can easily push his buttons. you've seen it at his press conferences, but he's somebody who does seem to believe in what he's doing, and that is, you know, he is who he is, and that's kind of who he is presenting, how he's presenting himself. that does resonate with a lot of voters. >> the question becomes, susan,
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how long he can get away with that three interviews in four years, not with a top newspaper in that state. obviously, the reporters who are good to ask those kinds of tough questions. what do you make of his strategy so far, including what we heard from him today? >> he's waiting until after the legislative session is over in june. it starts today, ends in june, give or take. it's a good one to keep the wins coming up again and again and he can say i'm focused on this, i'm not going to announce my plans until later this summer. he has $71 million in the bank, unlike the other candidates running for president. so it is a smart strategy, although when you have been insulated for four years from the media and only talking to outlets that you like and that like you, i think these proposals when put under a microscope, which they will be,
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will leave him very on his heels as the nicest way to put it. i don't think he will stand up to that challenge well. >> well, there's another question, our team points out this morning, there's a downside in trying to run in somewhat in the trump lane, right? a lot of their positions are similar, not as about bombastic as trump, but he wants to run on his record, both of them do, but that could leave an opening for somebody to run in the non-trump lane. i guess the question becomes, is there really anybody out there who's positioned to take advantage of an opening if it exists? >> we haven't seen it yet, but i do believe it's out there because here's the thing that political insiders really want, what donors really want. they want to win. and you know what, desantis or trump, both of their rhetoric is so bombastic, i don't think they can persuade the independent women voters they're going to
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need in november. so there is room. the question is, have we seen that? has that person emerged yet? i think not. we just may have to hold on a couple more months. >> well susan, it is always great to see you. lawrence mauer, great reporting always. keep in touch. we would love to see you again on the program. thank you, appreciate it. three republican-led states are abap donning a bipartisan multistate effort to ensure accurate voter lists after donald trump said, without evidence, that the system benefits democrats. chief election officials in florida, missouri, and west virginia, announced that they're joining louisiana and alabama, which already announced they were leaving. election officials say it undermines one of the few nationwide tools that exist to make sure people don't vote illegally in multiple states. what we just heard from mitch mcconnell about tucker carlson's release of the january 6th security footage and the
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the panel of judges that were hearing these argument, they initially declined to take up this case, but the state supreme court essentially ordered them to is the hearing we saw today. we saw tough questions being asked of both sides, and the prosecution saying these parents are criminally negligent because of certain factors. they knew their child had a mental illness, dealing with hallucinations. they knew he had depictions of killing people, including his fellow students. the prosecution saying they knew he had access to a weapon, a gun they purchased for him. the defense pushing back to indict and have these parents face trial for the actions of their son, that is touching new territory. i want you to listen to a little bit of what we heard from the defense in their arguments. >> anything else they could have done like get him into therapy sooner, look in his backpack, go through his cell phone, go through his room, pick apart
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anything, those are all things that in hindsight parents always wish they had done when a problem occurs or they find something like this out. the problem is, is that extending that kind of liability for failure to open a backpack or failure to give a hug or failure to do one of those things, ends up opening this unlimited liability to every parent across the state. >> now the parents are being charged each with four counts of involuntary manslaughter. that's for the four individuals, the four students who were killed in the school shooting. there's no timing on when the ruling can come. >> what are the kinds of things he'll need to consider? this is a big deal. i mean this is not the first case where people have said they should have known. >> right. >> they could have done something. >> sure. >> and they didn't. this is a very unique situation, even as it is a case that continues to sort of the
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rhetoric you're talking about. prosecutors have laid out a number of different steps and stages where they feel like the ultimate shooter ultimately made a cry for help, had access to weapons that he shouldn't have access to and the parents did not respond appropriately at different points, up to and including taking him to the shooting range, for example, posting on instagram this is his christmas gift, watching him -- having him, going with him to get the gun. all of these things they're pointing to as moving forward and enabling him in this way. the issue, chris, is going to be foreseeability. how foreseeable was it even in the wake of everything you did, was it that he would go and do what he did ultimately and shoot up a school? the issue that i think the defense is going to be raising in a case like this is, if you take away a move around one or more of the factors are you still liable? still saying it's liable? what is the formula you concocted to impute liability on parents to say if you did these
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three things you weren't negligible but add the fourth, now all of a sudden you are, for example. i think it is a tricky situation that both sides are trying to sort of navigate in order to get to a place they want to be. >> charles, you're going to stick around. shaq brewster, thank you so much. the justice department says nearly a thousand people have been arrested in connection to the january 6th capitol riot. but could prosecutions be impacted by that new january 6th video fox news aired? you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc.
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the proud boys laid the groundwork for the attack. charles komen is back with me. so let's start with this case involving the proud boys. political called it the most specific effort by the justice department yet to capture the breadth of what it sees as the most significant case to arise from january 6th. what's your sense of how important this is? >> it's important on a number of levels, chris. what they are trying to do, the justice department that is, is basically use the notion that the proud boys fundamentally were acting as conspirators around trying to more or less overthrow the government. that's why you've heard them being charged with seditious conspiracy, the top, top level proud boys. what they're trying to do is say there were other individual actors, there were almost 1,000 people arrested with respect, connected to january 6th, i think it's like 999 people literally have been arrested. >> yep. >> what they're trying to do is connect some of these smaller actors to the proud boys so that they're not just individuals,
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but basically saying hey, they were being used as agents for the proud boys. what the video is doing and what the video is intended to do, in different cases, is to show connections where they don't necessarily already exist between these top-level players who are proud boys and what they're using or calling tools of the proud boys with these individual actors who have been charged with various sort of discreet crimes around january 6th. >> okay. you mentioned almost 1,000 or some say a few more than a thousand. more than 500 have already pled guilty, right? >> yes. >> roughly 50 have been guilty at trial. that leaves several hundred who yet to adjudicate one way or another. when you're looking at 44,000 hours of video and you have one of the most popular television personalities in the united states saying it was peaceful chaos, that the majority of the
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protesters were meek and orderly where several people died, could that have implications? picking a jury? >> yes. that's exactly it. i'm glad you said it. if there is any space where that becomes an issue, it's not necessarily a court of law from the extent of evidentiary standpoints. it is much more the court of public opinion in terms of how it frames people's minds and how they're looking at and thinking about what happened on january 6th. to your question when it comes to picking a jury it's much more complicated because now what the public is looking at, based off of that very popular cable news pundits putting out that video is different than what they might see. when you are supposed to be fair and impartial and not think about outside sources, everyone knows what happens on january 6th. it's a very popular news program so let's hard to divorce
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yourself from what you've seen on those videos -- >> and then told. >> which may have been selective, not the entirety, talking about 44,000 hours of videotape from different angles and cameras and then go into court and list tonight government present to you a different prosecution with a different narrative. that is a very -- if there's anything that i would be concerned about as a prosecutor, is that. it is finding a jury that's going to be fair and impartial, once they've gotten so much footage from a different source that may have a particular slant or agenda. >> charles coleman, always great to have you here. thank you. moments ago on capitol hill senate minority leader mitch mcconnell spoke about this for the first time. let's go to ali vitali on the hill for us. what exactly is mcconnell saying in. >> reporter: chris, mcconnell has never really minced words about january 6th. he's been clear in terms of the way that he sees the former president's role and while some people in his party have tried to downplay what happened, he has been a little bit more
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forthcoming, including today, just in the last few minutes. here's a little bit of what he just said to us. >> with regard to the presentation on fox news last night, i want to associate myself entirely with the opinion of the chief of the capitol police about what happened on january 6th. >> reporter: so look, that's just a little bit of what the senate minority leader said on this issue. again, not altogether surprising, chris. the mcconnell permission structure to offer some criticism of the high ranks of his party is, you know, not necessarily new, but i do think it's notable when other reporters asked him about the role that mccarthy played in this. the fkt that mccarthy released these tapes to fox news and tucker carlson. mcconnell demurred and didn't necessarily answer that question, clearly trying to
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align himself with the capitol police critical of the way tucker carlson and fox news cherry picked it in the words of capitol police chief in a letter to his members. all being echoed by mcconnell. it's important, you and i were talking about this earlier, depends what side of this building you're on when you ask people and republicans specifically about what fox did with this footage last night and will continue to do with it. on the house side, they want this out there. they want tucker to go forward and continue with this. on the senate side, much more quick to hear criticism of what tucker is doing over the course of tonight and this week. >> thank you. appreciate that update. we're also getting an update on pennsylvania senator john fetterman who checked himself into the hospital, you may recall, for clinical depression in mid february. his chief of staff tweeted out these pictures of the two of them. these are the first manks we have seen of the senator since he entered walter reed medical center and his chief of staff says he's well on his way to recovery and will be back soon. fetterman is said to be working
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federal reserve keep job growth and fight inflation. jobs are pretty strong right now. but inflation is a major problem. powell said, look, it's just more persistent than we thought it's going to be. the only real instrument the federal reserve has to fight this is to keep raising rates. of course, there's a concern about some kind of recession down the road, but right now, powell has to deal with inflation. the only way he needs to deal with it or knows how to is to keep raising rates. >> is that the key data point to look at whether or not this is working or whether this aggressive strategy has gone too far. >> senator elizabeth warren says what's going to happen is you're
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