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it's 10:00 a.m. in new york, i'm lindsey reiser, and right now we've got our eyes on a
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whirlwind of action on capitol hill this wednesday morning. you could say it's a congressional hearing palooza on a slate of urgent topics from the origin of covid, the safety of air travel, the u.s. evacuation of afghanistan, and threats from around the world. that last topic is the focus of a hearing set to begin any second with the senate intelligence committee. we'll hear testimony from the nation's top intel chiefs including dni avril haines, cia director bill burns and fbi director chris wray. we can expect them to dive into a number of topics including new threats from china, questions about mishandling classified documents and concerns over domestic extremism. our team is monitoring this closely. meanwhile, in a different senate hearing, acting administrator of the faa is just moments away from testifying after weeks of disturbing headlines from the not so friendly skies, including a united passenger recently caught on camera attacking a flight attendant and threatening to,
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quote, kill every man on this plane. why has air travel gotten so fraught, and what's being done about it? the two survivors of that terrifying kidnapping in mexico are back in the u.s. in a south texas hospital, and their families are speaking out after days of anxiety. >> that was very hard. you just want answers, it's a lot of anxiety. >> reporter: the big question now how could this have happened? the latest on the investigation. and bipartisan blowback to fox news's fire brand tucker carlson. the host taking heat from democrats and republicans for airing cherry picked portions of january 6th footage and falsely characterizing the deadly riot as, quote, mostly peaceful chaos. >> i think it's bull [ bleep ]. >> that it was not just some rowdy peaceful protest of boy scouts. >> it was a mistake in my view. >> now what carlson's private texts reveal about how he really
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feels about former president trump. we begin, though, with breaking news on the hill. that critical senate intelligence committee hearing on worldwide threats starting any moment, and starting us off, nbc news capitol hill correspondent ali vitali, justice and intelligence correspondent, ken dilanian, and former counsel to the senate foreign relations and house intelligence committees and founder and executive director of the national security substitute. ali, this hearing set to gavel in at the top of the hour. it's set to last about two hours. how will it play out? >> set to last about two hours. that's the two hours that we can see. then they're going to go into a more classified portion, and that's probably where if there are answers to be gotten, had that's where they will get them. we know what the issues are on the table. this is an annual hearing, but many of these things are things that have been in the bloodstream here on capitol hill for the last few months, everything from classified documents found at former presidents and vice presidents' homes up through the chinese air
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balloon and the ongoing situation in ukraine with russia. all of these set the table for what's likely to be a wide ranging hearing, but again, senators have even prepped us for this. the idea that there's probably not going to be a lot of information that's going to come out, at least not in the open public portion of this hearing, in large part because we even know in recent weeks, these intel officials in bipartisan fashion have been trying to talk with people like the director of national intelligence and others to get more information on things like the classified documents found at mar-a-lago and at biden's offices, and they have not been very good or not been very effective at getting that information in large part because the dni is trying to be tight-lipped about it because of the ongoing special counsel meeting. those are meetings going on behind closed doors. you've got to imagine it's a continued theme of being tight-lipped when they're actually in public here. but again, once they move into
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that classified portion after the first two hours of questioning, we could see senators get a little bit more information here. >> ken, dni avril haines will be giving the only opening statement, what will you be listening to then and throughout the day? >> so many things, we're actually in a more dangerous world than when i first started covering the intelligence community, and these were dominated by questions of international terrorism. we're in a world where great powers like china and russia threaten the united states directly. so i want to hear about the intelligence community's assessment on whether china intends to try to seize taiwan and when and what the u.s. can do about it. on the big picture in terms of the trajectory of the war in ukraine, how many more billions of dollars is the united states going to have to contribute to this? what's the outcome? then there are all these intelligence stories in the news that you can expect they're going to be asked about. how did chinese balloons get across the air space, in charge
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of the air space in north america. there's been reports that pro-ukrainian groups were responsible for sabotaging the in order stream pipeline. i want to hear what the u.s. intelligence officials say about that. and then on this story about this awful tragedy in mexico raises fundamental questions about what the mexican government is doing about these increasingly powerful drug cartels, which after all are fueled by u.s. consumption of drugs and what the u.s. government is doing to try to help that, what are the tensions in that relationship? we don't have time for me to tell you all the things i'm interested in. those are some of them, lindsey. >> so similar question to you, ken mentioned so many of them, particularly when it comes to china and that suspected spy balloon. what are the questions that senators should be asking here? >> lindsey, obviously this is a rarity. you rarely see public hearings from the eyes -- from the house intelligence committee, and you rarely see these senior intelligence committees talking on the record.
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these happen about once a year. the questions that senators are going to want to ask, why did we not know about these spy balloons previously in the prior administration, earlier in the biden administration. when we did detect it, why did nobody tell the president for a while, why did it take so long before we took action? these are all going to be tough questions. i think ken's right and allen's right, you're not going to hear a lot in the public hearing that's new that we're going to find out. we are going to hear about their view of the level of these threats. how important is cyber threats to us in the country environment. what does the china threat look like when it comes to taiwan. ken raised that point, that's exactly right, and this large e question of what is china doing in russia, what's that relationship with russia in iran. with the ongoing war in ukraine, and, you know, what is iran doing when it comes to these nuclear weapons? are we going to be able to understand whether they're 84% or not, and what does that mean? what's the intelligence community's assessment? we may hear about havana
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syndrome. that's going to come up, and those are going to be some questions asked about that in the public hearing as well. >> given everything that we're talking about, how would you distill this to the top threat facing the u.s. right now and how lawmakers should be responding now? >> well, look, i think, lindsey, there's no question that china is the number one issue on the agenda for lawmakers. there's a select committee in the house run by chairman mike gallagher. that's going to be top of the mind for everybody, top of the mind for intelligence officials. this china situation could turn hot at any moment, if they across the straits into taiwan or if the situation with them supplying weapons to russia becomes a real thing. it's the long-term threat, but it's also the most immediate and urgent thing we need to know about as a nation and that the american public needs to be educated about and understand the very real challenge we face with the chinese communist party. >> we'll be monitoring that now and throughout the day. thanks for starting us off, and everybody stay close.
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we're going to be watching this hearing as it's about to get underway. we want to get now to major new developments in that deadly kidnapping of four u.s. citizens in mexico. right now the two survivors of that horrifying ordeal with back in the u.s. and their families are speaking out. we're also learning more about where officials say they were held. take a look at your screens. you can see the house where officials say they were violently taken, where somebody was actually standing guard, and we're also learning more about the area where they were violently taken at gunpoint in the first place. nbc's morgan chesky is in brownsville, texas, near the mexican border. ellison barber where the victims are from. so morgan first to you, these people, these four people are childhood friends. they traveled down to mexico together, and they did so to share driving duty.
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what more are we learning about them and how this happened? >> reporter: yeah, lindsey, we're filling in this time line that started back when this group of four as you described, lifelong friends left south carolina in that white van with north carolina plates and nen made that road trip hundreds of miles here to south texas to brownsville where according to family members one of the group had a cosmetic procedure scheduled in neighboring matamoros, and they crossed over one of the international bridges here, and federal authorities tell us it was shortly after they crossed that bridge that that white van took a heavy amount of gunfire, a barrage of bullet, according to some of the photos and videos that we've seen that then led to this video being captured showing these gunmen in broad daylight walking very casually i might add with these victims putting them in the back of a pickup truck and
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driving away, kidnapping all four at gunpoint. for about three days we didn't know what happened or where that group was until that unfortunate update yesterday. as of right now, you mentioned that home, that small wooden building where they were held, where those two americans that are still alive were found and then brought back to texas. we do know that the bodies of those two americans whose lives were lost at last check are still in matamoros, mexico. there are still ongoing questions on how to repatriate those remains back to the united states, and we are awaiting official autopsy results as well. as for those two americans that survived, la taif ya washington mcgee and eric james williams, we believe they're recovering at this hospital. no word on their current status, but we do know -- i did speak to the older brother of williams last night, lindsey, he tells me that his brother is a fun-loving but tough guy and that despite
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being wounded in the leg, he hopes that he'll come out just fine. lindsey. >> just a tragic story here. as we continue to learn more, the governor of the mexican state where this all unfolded said the four victims were found in that small house and a 24-year-old was guarding them and has been arrested. how much can we learn from him and what we're look at on our screens right now? >> there's a lot in it for the mexican government to be transparent here. this is a deep embarrassment to them, this is an absolute tragedy that occurred. mexico and some of these bordering states have turned into somewhat lawless regions. this is a terrible tragedy, two americans were killed, a couple of things you have to keep in mind. the state department has been clear on warning americans from travel in this area. people need to heed those warnings. at a greater level is the state of kind of lawlessness in mexico
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at a time when the u.s., mexican, you know, law enforcement cooperation is at one of its lowest levels in decades. this is a real problem. i think the mexicans are going to be transparent here. on the bigger picture issue is what do we do about a failed state in essence on our southern border, and there's no real hope for the future because, again, the u.s./mexican cooperation is almost nonexistent right now. that's not a political problem. that's a national security problem for the united states. >> ellison, these people are all from lake city, south carolina, where you are, and we're hearing from people who know them. what have we heard so far from their loved ones? >> reporter: yeah, we're actually expecting to see the community gather for a vigil later this evening. all of them had ties to lake city. this has been described as their hometown. some had moved to different parts of the state to north carolina, but this, friends and family say this is where all four of the victims were are from.
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for some of those families, particularly those who now know their loved ones are going to survive and eventually make it back home, they're having to grapple with this range of emotions of feeling relief that their loved one is alive, devastated for the families of those who are not, and having a whole lot of questions in between. our colleague gabe gutierrez spoke to the wife of one of the survivors, eric williams. mexican authorities say he was shot in the leg and injured. she says she talked to him before he went into surgery. she didn't want to get into the extent of the injuries, only saying his leg was injured and he is now in the united states receiving treatment. listen to more of what she had to say. >> i didn't know anything until sunday morning when the fbi came. i am very happy that he's alive, but i'm also heartbroken for the other families who can't say the
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same. >> reporter: and we heard from the mayor of lake city yesterday issuing a brief statement, a public statement saying, confirming that all four of them had ties here in lake city, saying that this community is trying to just wrap their arms around these families and offer any sort of support they can. lindsey. >> we've got two people who survived, but we have two people who sadly did not, and we know that the u.s. is working to, quote, repatriate the remains of those who died. how complicated could that be in a case like this in another country involving a serious crime like kidnapping? >> well, you know, so i think this is something that happens quite often. i mean, i think their remains will be repatriate. you know, there is obviously a sense of need for families to have closure on this. and the investigation has to continue. i think there's not much doubt, in fact, what happened. one of the things that we are going to kind of find out more of is, you know, which cartel actually was responsible for
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this, how much of this was a case of mistaken identity, but i really do think there's going to be, you know, a sense of -- a need for quick closure on this and the mexicans are going to help on this issue. again, i go back to that -- the more broad overall concern is the state of u.s., mexican counternarcotics cooperation is not good. so that's something that should be in the public debate now, and i think it will in the future because, again, there is a lawless -- there's a sense of lawlessness. when i talk to my old friends in law enforcement, there's a sense of lawlessness on our border. that's a national security issue for the united states. that's not a political issue. unfortunately two americans died because of that. >> mark poll mor rop louse, thank you for your expertise, morgan chesky and ellison barber on the ground, appreciate both of you. next, what the acting faa administrator is saying amid recent scares in the sky. and inside the new house
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coronavirus committee's first hearing investigating the origins of covid. plus, fed up at fox news, the newly unsealed messages giving us a behind the scenes look at how some hosts truly felt about donald trump after the 2020 election. and new pushback from democrats and some republicans against fox host tucker carlson for using january 6th security footage to push false claims that the riot was mostly peaceful. so much to get to, we're back in 60 seconds. to, we're back in 60 seconds ht? -yeah. no. there's my little marzipan! [ laughs ] oh, my daughter gives the best hugs! we're just passing through on our way to the jazz jamboree. [ imitates trumpet playing ] and we wanted to thank america's number-one motorcycle insurer -for saving us money. -thank you. [ laughs ] mara, your parents are -- exactly like me? i know, right? well, cherish your friends and loved ones. let's roll, daddio! let's boogie-woogie! (vo) with verizon, you can now get a private 5g network.
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368 people killed in ethiopia and indonesia. the theme is how is it the faa allowed boeing to certify the 737 max when there were serious, we now believe fatal flaws involved in that plane. it all goes to the faa allowing boeing to essentially self-regulate, self-certify. that's the theme of today's hearing. now, we may get some questions later in the hearing about the close calls we've had on the nation's runways. we've had six close calls so far this year, so-called runway incursions. that happens when two planes, usually two planes simply are too close to each other or threatening to intersect with each other on runways. six of them just this year alone is a very concerning number, and the faa chief that you see there, he has actually called for a safety summit next week, which will involve not only the airlines, pilots, regulators, all of those party involved.
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but because of the intensity of all of the coverage of these close calls on the nation's runway, we may get questions in this hearing about that, he's still talking about the 737 max. by the way, as you mentioned, we've also had this very concerning situation that happened on that flight from elway to boston, in which a man, a 32-year-old man suddenly got up, began ranting, and then attacked a flight attendant with a cutoff spoon stabbing that flight attendant multiple times. the flight attendant's okay. there you see the various passengers jumping up, tackling the suspect, putting him on the ground and tieing him down before finally landing in boston. we believe the next court appearance for 32-year-old francisco torrez is tomorrow. that's going to be in boston. these are federal charges interfering with the flight crew with a deadly weapon, and it could mean life in prison if convicted. so we've got a lot happening on this beat today we're trying to stay on top of.
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also underway right now, the first hearing from the new house subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic. it's focusing on the origins of the covid-19 virus as more intel agencies have recently raised the possibility that the pandemic was caused by a possible lab leak in wuhan. that intelligence is further straining the already tense relationship between the u.s. and china. nbc's josh lederman is following this from hong kong. what have we heard so far from this hearing? what does it mean for u.s./china relations? >> a big focus of this hearing so far, lindsey, has been on whether it even is important to get to the bottom of the origins of the covid-19 pandemic. and to really try to cast a spotlight on how critical it is in the view of those who have called this hearing that this be solved and that an investigation really be carried out to completion. every single one of the witnesses was asked today in the first minutes of this hearing whether figuring out whether
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covid came from is important to science, to being able to prevent a pandemic like this from emerging in the future. all four witnesses said they believed it was important, but beyond that a big focus so far has been on blaming china for the origins of the virus. now, the chinese government has called that attempts by the u.s. to politicize this issue, to denigrate china, and to really try to dismiss china, but nonetheless, congressional republicans who organized this hearing today making that a key focus in the first minutes. take a listen. >> the chinese government has done everything in its power to prevent the type of investigation into the origins of the covid-19 pandemic. >> the epidemic broke out, not in some random chinese city, but right in wuhan, home of the wuhan institute of virology. >> based on my initial analysis of the data i came to believe
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and still believe today that it indicates that covid-19 more likely was the result of an accident lab leak than a result of a natural spillover event. >> reporter: that last witness you heard from was dr. robert redfield, who was the head of the cdc during the pandemic under former president trump, and the other big focus of this hearing has been on something called gain of function research, and there's been a hypothesis that the way that covid-19 came about was through that kind of research in which scientists essentially alter a virus to make it either more transmissible or more deadly. there have been concerns that that was how this came about. dr. redfield there calling for a moratorium on gain of function research until more can be done to make sure it can be done safely. lindsey. >> thanks for your reporting. quote, i hate him passionately, which fox news host said that behind the scenes
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about donald trump? what we're learning from new unsealed documents in the dominion lawsuit against the network. plus, when it comes to fox news host tucker carlson's latest segments using previously unseen january 6th footage, even some republicans say it's a bridge too far. >> i think it's bull [ bleep ]. if you were just a tourist, you should have probably lined up at the visitors center and came in on an orderly basis. n on an orderly basis.
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a second night of, quote, offensive and misleading conclusions about the january 6th attack. that's how the u.s. capitol police chief described fox news host tucker carlson's new claims that the january 6th riot was mostly peaceful, which he made while sharing video of the attack that he received exclusively from house speaker kevin mccarthy. nbc's capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles has been tracking what carlson shared and the reaction to it. what can you tell us? >> reporter: lindsey, there was no doubt that democrats were concerned that tucker carlson
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was given all of this exclusive access to this video from the january 6th riots, but even republicans are now upset after what they saw from tucker carlson's presentation. >> for the second night in a row, fox news host tucker carlson used his exclusive access to more than 40,000 hours of video from january 6th to create an alternative reality of what many witnessed and experienced on that day. capitol hill police in some cases escorted protesters through the capitol as if they were giving a tour. >> reporter: more than 100 officers were hurt during the riot. five people died, and at least a thousand people have been arrested, but carlson chose to use the footage to down play the violence while accusing the january 6th select committee of lying about what happened. >> in free countries, governments do not lie about protests as a pretext to gain more power for themselves. >> reporter: some republicans taking issue with how the host framed the violence. >> i think it's bull [ bleep ]. >> my recollection of the day is
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that it was not just some rowdy peaceful protest of boy scouts. >> i think it was a -- yeah, it was an attack on the capitol. >> reporter: the fox news host also accusing capitol police of willfully ignoring some of the attacks and even claimed without evidence the federal government had operatives in the crowd to fuel the violence. capitol police chief tom manger calling the report, quote, filled with offense i have and misleading conclusions about the january 6th attack. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell said -- >> it was a mistake in my view for fox news to depict this in a way that's completely at variance with what our chief law enforcement official here at the capitol thinks. >> reporter: house speaker kevin mccarthy who gave carlson access to the footage doubling down on his decision. >> i said at the very beginning transparency, and so what i wanted to produce for everybody
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is exactly what i said. >> reporter: it all comes as more internal communications have been made public as part of a dominion voting systems defamation lawsuit against the network. they reveal fox hosts including tucker carlson were increasingly uncomfortable with the way that trump was lying about the 2020 election. we are very, very close to being able to ignore trump most nights. i truly can't wait carlson texted an unknown person on january 4th, 2021, adding i hate him passionately. >> reporter: and back to that 40,000 hours of videotape that tucker carlson has in his possession that house speaker kevin mccarthy told us last night that he expects to release that footage to all of us in the media, lindsey, he hasn't said how or when that will happen. >> okay, ryan nobles, thank you. for more on the fallout from the release of those fox news document, i want to bring in former florida republican congressman carlos curbelo, and
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msnbc legal analyst barbara mcquade. carlos, some of these details are eye opening. we mentioned tucker carlson saying he hated trump passion flatly. maria bartiromo texted, she said she told her team they couldn't call biden president-elect at all, not in scripts or banner or an air until this moves through the courts. what do you make of all those revelations? >> what the discovery from the lawsuit is revealing is this is all about ratings and money. not only are these hosts and their production teams lying to the american people, but they know that they're lying, and they're doing it willfully. why? because they think it generates good ratings. we know what tucker carlson thinks about donald trump. we know that he knows the truth about the 2020 election. we know that he knows the truth about the horror of january 6th and that violent attack on the capitol. why is he introducing doubts into that narrative? because it makes money. and that's just wrong.
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it's a shame. it's destroying the social fabric of our country, and that's what even someone like rupert murdoch is deeply concerned about this. now, what they need to do is actually take action and stop this. >> barbara, i want to read part of an email from fox chairman rupert murdaugh to suzanne scott after criticism from republican senators for still running stolen election stories after president biden's inauguration. quote, still getting mud thrown at us mourdock wrote, maybe sean and laura went too far. how can dominion and do you expect dominion will use this excerpt and others against fox? >> as the congressman mentioned a really key component in a defamation case when it involves public figures like the dominion voting company and fox news is that there's a showing after actual malice. not that fox news reported
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things that were false, which we allow reporters to do from time to time, but they actually knew what they were reporting was false. that satisfies that very high standard of actual malice. so this evidence is extremely crucial to dominion's ability to win this case. and they have not just one or two little nuggets of facts, but they've got scores of them as you have already highlighted, emails, deposition testimony where they're going back and forth talking about how they know that these claims are false, and so i think it looks like dominion is in a very strong position to have a big payday and maybe that's what it takes to get fox news to change the way it operates. >> carlos, more text messages revealed between some fox anchors after the network was first to call arizona for biden, and in a group text, sean hannity said why would anyone defend that call. laura ingraham chimed in, my anger at the news channel is pronounced. >> and tucker carlson said it should be, we devote our looifts
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to an audience and they let chris wall let and leland bleep wreck it too much. a disservice to viewers, yes, but barbara is talking about what ultimately will force fox news to change. is this it? >> well, we can only hope, lindsey. it's all there. now people know the truth. i mean, these people are telling you what they're doing. they're purposely concealing the truth, promoting lies. why? because they think it's what's going to get them more ratings, more followers on social media, and ultimately more money in their pockets. i mean, they're saying it, we're building this audience. it doesn't matter that they're building the audience on a lie, right? it doesn't matter that they're tricking the american people and intoxicating american society with these lies. what matters to them is their ratings, and hopefully there will be enough public pressure, hopefully there might even be fox news viewers who say we're being tricked. we're being lied to. this has to change. but at the end of the day, the buck stops with rupert murdoch,
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with the board of trustees, my friend paul ryan is there. it is time for them to take their fiduciary responsibility seriously and put an end to this madness. >> barbara, that said, though, in a 2020 slander lawsuit against tucker carlson, a u.s. district judge argued that fox persuasively argues that given mr. carlson's reputation any reasonable viewer arrives with an appropriate amount of skepticism about the statement he makes. do you see fox lawyers using the argument here that viewers should nose personalities like tucker carlson are using exaggeration and nonliteral commentary. >> i do think that's going to be an argument they're going to raise. it's absurd that they say everyone knows what tucker carlson says isn't true, therefore there can be no deaf makes. i think with regard to election
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fraud, they're going to find examples where the dominion voting system specifically was defamed, and that would include these suggestions that the machines somehow flipped votes for donald trump in favor of joe biden, that there was some connection with hugo chavez in venezuela, that the machines were the product of bribery by american government officials. those are objective lies, and so to the extent they could document those things, then just asking questions is not going to be enough of a defense. >> former congressman carlos curbelo, and barbara mcquade, my thanks to both of you. in just a few hours we're expecting new footage tied to the death of tyre nichols, what we could learn today. plus, keep out signs are up in east palestine, ohio, near cleaning and testing areas. a stark reminder of the ongoing fallout from the toxic train derailment there. what senators are saying about tomorrow's hearing with norfolk southern's ceo. and new details on the ntsb's
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moments ago the justice department announced it will review the memphis police department's use of force and deescalation policies. and this afternoon the city of memphis is expected to release 20 hours of video and audio of the fatal beating of tyre nichols after completing its administrative investigation into the january death of the
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29-year-old. a city official announced just yesterday more than a dozen memphis police and fire employees have been administratively charged. joining me right now is nbc news correspondent antonia hylton. what's the significance of this doj investigation. the overall, what are we expected to learn from this new video, 20 hours? >> well, lindsey, on the doj front, what this signals is that their interest, their concern about the culture and practice of policing in memphis is expanding from the initial announcement of their investigation. they're going to be looking at continued patterns of behavior. i think they're also going to be looking at the culture of some of these teams, like the scorpion unit, which the five officers who are now facing criminal charges who were five of the several people who have been terminated, the unit they were all involved in. i think what we're going to see later this afternoon, additional angles and additional insight into what happened that night. i don't think it's going to change the fundamentals of what we know already, which was this was a vicious beating.
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i think we might hear more audio. we might get a better sense of the officer's conversations on the ground or what happened in the moments after the beating or interactions with emts when they arrived on the scene. what we know is this broader investigation has come to a close. seven officers in total have been terminated that includes those five central officers, three more suspended without pay. two had their internal charges dropped, and then one managed to quit before he was fired, which was angering a lot of people on the ground. that means that individual is going to be able to keep their city pension. so, you know, what's happening now as people await this video this afternoon is community members working with the family to push now for reforms so that things like this never happen again. and late last night at about 10:30, the city council managed to pass five new ordinances that are going to change the culture of policing in memphis. what we know right now is that they include a number of changes to civilian oversight and
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independent groups that are going to be able to look at the police training and are procedures and an end to unmarked vehicles and traffic stops. >> really quick, i want to get to that. what will you be watching for in the video. we know that some of the officers were already trying to sort of build a story that he was grabbing for my gun, even the pretense for stopping him. are you going to be watching and listening in those parts of the video? in some way listening is more important to me than watching. we had a pretty good, pretty disturbing but good view of -- from the different angles in the first batch. i'm very interested to hear if there's additional audio captured of the conversations that the police officers had, not just with each other on the scene, but we know that some of them went to tyre's mother and informed her of what happened that night, and she says they did not tell her the truth. what they told her isn't reflected in the video. >> wasn't reflected in the police report. >> thank you for staying on this, appreciate it. now to the growing heat on rail company norfolk southern. tomorrow the company's ceo alan
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shaw is set to appear before the senate to answer questions about the toxic train derailment in ohio last month and other recent derailments. here's a little of what west virginia senator shelly moore capita had to say on a press conference. >> norfolk southern will pay for the harm it has caused. norfolk southern will be held completely liable and no expense should be spared in their cleanup efforts. >> the national transportation safety board has also just announced it will investigate norfolk southern taking a look into the railway company's safety practices and culture. joining me now, former senior official at the federal railroad administration steven dit meyer. he's worked for multiple different railroads and served as an army transportation corps officer. we know norfolk southern has had four derailments in recent months. is this an issue specific to the company or an industry rail way
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safety issue? >> norfolk southern is having more -- an increase in derailments lately seems to be related to their propensity to run longer trains, and that's related to their so-called precision railroading, precision scheduled railroading procedures to cut costs. it turns out that the ntsb has found that there has been an uptick in derailments on other railroads as well, and it seems that it's the other ones that have also practiced this -- these cost cutting measures. >> what questions do you have for senators if you were in that room, if you were able to ask alan shaw directly, what would you ask him? >> well, actually, first i would say i appreciated his plan of
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action to correct this. i have some minor issues with it. they're going to have more detectors put in and in particular acoustic bearing detectors that have the ability to detect deterioraing bearings long before they start overheating and seizing. they have some on norfolk southern already, but not in this territory that they acquired from con rail to the best of my knowledge. basically i would congratulate him on that. i would also suggest to mr. shaw that norfolk southern tie in their detectors with their ptc digital data communications network so that the information
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could go directly from the detectors to the train crews, to the train control centers, and to the car repair shops immediately upon the sensing of overheated bearings and not waiting for the entire train to pass before a voice radio announcement goes out only to the train crew. >> okay. well, certainly a lot to learn tomorrow from his testimony. i'm sure senators are going to want to be making sure that this company pays for everything including maybe even as i was talking to senator marquee yesterday, property values for people in east palestine. steven ditmeyer, thank you for your time. next, he was in court every day for aleck murdaugh's trial all the way up to the verdict and sentencing. but now with his father behind bars for murdering his mother and brother, what's next for buster murdaugh? ster murdaugh? get a private 5g network. so you can do more than connect your business, you can make it even smarter. now ports can know where every piece of cargo is. and where it's going.
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the south carolina department of corrections released a new mug shot of the disbarred lawyer, who has begun his life sentence for the murders of his wife and younger son. and now his younger son buster, stephanie gosk has details. >> reporter: buster murdaugh is 26 years old, his entire immediate family gone, mother and brother murdered by a father who will be in prison for the rest of his life. the murdaugh name once powerful and influential is now just infamous. the impact of his crimes stretches wide, but few would deny buster is the one who will shoulder the worst of it. buster murdaugh was at his father's trial every day, the unmistakable red hair hard to miss. >> guilty verdict. >> reporter: now that alex murdaugh has been sent away for life for killing his wife maggie and youngest son paul, his oldest son is the only member of the immediate family left. but he's not entirely alone. >> buster's world will never be the same. he does have a very loving
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family and support group. i can't even imagine to lose everything in your life that you've known, everything in your life that you've ever known. >> reporter: and it is all happening under a relentless spotlight. on sunday, according to a police report, buster murdaugh called the sheriff's office, after seeing this photo published in an article. telling police he observed a suspicious gray dodge challenger outside the residence. buster's girlfriend said the couple was being followed by the media. >> how does buster feel about your guilty? >> reporter: police can do little about the attention that grew intense during the six-week long trial, especially after buster took the stand in his father's defense, describing the moment he learned maggie and paul were dead. >> i was in shock. >> what kind of condition was he in? what was his demeanor? >> his demeanor, he was destroyed, heart broken. i walked in the door and saw him
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one of alex's brothers randy recently spoke with the "new york times" telling a reporter his brother, quote, knows more than what he's saying. that in his opinion he's not telling the truth. back to you. >> all right, stephanie gosk, thank you. that does it for me this busy hour. i'll be back here tomorrow. "jose diaz-balart reports" starts next. here tomorrow "jose diaz-balart reports" starts next.
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