good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. fox news and kevin mccarthy joining forces to rip the band-aid off an old wound for republicans forcing them to pick a narrative surrounding january 6th. how will all of it resonate with republican voters and candidates heading into 2004. . plus one day after two americans are killed in mexico, the director of national intelligence releases the threat assessment. and new concerns surrounding the

increase in medical tourists heading south of the border coming up. on page 1 of that threat assessment, china, among the fascinating details, how beijing is doubling its efforts to sway local politicians in the u.s. as a way to gain some diplomatic breathing room with washington. but we start with the brand new litmus test for republicans, being forced to publicly choose sides following the latest release of videos from january 6th. for a second straight night, fox news host tucker carlson perpetuated the lie that the insurrection was a mostly peaceful group of meek and orderly people who were sightseeing that characterization drew an angry, even visceral reaction from some republicans, although not all of them. >> i think what happened on january 6th was despicable, if you disagree with something congress is doing or not doing, you can't try to take over the capitol. >> tucker carlson that january

6th was -- >> i don't know what tucker carlson said. >> he said it was mostly peaceful chaos. >> i don't know how you want to describe it. all i know is that there were a lot of people in the capitol at the time who i think were scared for their lives, so you can -- you know, however you want to describe it, it was an attack on the capitol. >> and all of that happening just as hundreds of documents were released in the dominion lawsuit against fox, evidence that shows while hosts were publicly embracing donald trump and his lies about the election, privately in other texts and messages they were rejecting claims of election fraud. carlson even writing to his staff about trump, i hate him passionately. i want to bring in nbc's jane tim who's been digging through all this new evidence, jonathan lemire is "politico's" white house bureau chief and host of "way too early." brendan buck served as an aide to paul ryan and john boehner,

both are msnbc political analysts. i know you've been digging through these documents related to dominion. what are the big takeaways here? >> for me i keep going back to the week of january 6th and just how different what you saw on air leading up to that mob and riot and what you heard behind the scenes. that text about hating trump passionately that carlson sent and being so ready to be over trump, to have him go away, these texts, you know, and even lou dobbs saying it's been eight weeks. where's the evidence? we don't have anything. we can't do anything with it. and almost being annoyed that trump was encouraging his supporters to descend on d.c. >> they thought trump was essentially going to fade away, didn't they? >> they absolutely did. they said we're going to turn, pivot, conversations these executives really thinking they could get away from this while at the same time continuing to sort of push this narrative that the state legislatures and congress could change the outcome of the election right up until that mob took the capitol

and ransacked offices. >> yeah, brendan, what's really behind this divide then that we're seeing now? is it the political disagreements that they move on from january 6th because it's clearly a political liability or that the better move is to feed the anger of the far right, keep them energized essentially? >> that's what's so confounding about this. why are we even talking about this, why kevin mccarthy felt it was a good idea to reopen this conversation? obviously kevin mccarthy is trying to placate some of his members who think that this is a debate worth having. the world that house republicans live in, especially as compared to senate republicans, senators obviously represent an entire state, these republicans represent deep red districts where so many of those voters only get their news from very conservative outlets and there it has been going on for two

years now a concerted effort to either down play what happened on january 6th, affirm in some people's minds that the election was, in fact, stolen. there's very little consequences, actually, and i would say being on the right side of a fox news personality is probably the biggest thing that you could do in republican politics right now. and tucker carlson's voice is much more powerful than a mitch mcconnell, for example. that's why you're seeing house republicans being not terribly upset, frankly, about what kevin mccarthy has done here, what tucker carlson has done here. i'm really glad that some senators have spoken out, but it speaks to how our party is so built on telling people what they want to hear. >> jonathan, on the same day we see this proof that fox hosts seem to knowingly lie about the 2020 election, at least that's what their texts indicate, tucker carlson is pushing a different false narrative about january 6th. so in a sense, no matter what's in these documents, it doesn't seem to have changed anyone's

behavior to brendan's point, right? i mean, certainly among house republicans, they're all in. e. >> they are, and this goes to show the legacy of the big lie and i'd argue how much donald trump is still in control of this party. that's who this benefits. the whitewashing of january 6th, down playing what happened that day benefits donald donald trump who is now, of course, one of only a few handful of declared candidates for 2024. as the last week has really shown is the overwhelming poin. he delivers that big speech at cpac on saturday, that was a trump-friendly crowd, but that's something that is a marker. we have some new polls, including one this morning of new hampshire that show him way up on ron desantis, and even that state's governor in the potential primary there, a key state in the republican primary process, and now we have the most influential figure on fox news, the highest rated host in prime time across cable doing

this and trying to down play what happened on january 6th. trying to tell us that our own eyes were deceiving us that day, and of course we know that's not true. that's his benefit -- tucker carlson is placating to his audience. that's a captive audience a the fox news, they believe him, and therefore they believe donald trump. to brendan's point, i don't think this helps the rest of the party at all, but certainly among maga republicans it does. it shows that mccarthy's beholden to the far right interests in the house, and it shows that trump is still the most powerful figure in the party and has influential voices doing his bidding. >> arguably, some of the republicans are trying to walk a kind of line, right? they're trying to say, well, actually, the reason we did this, the reason kevin mccarthy did this is because he wants to be open. just take a listen to a couple of the comments. >> at the end of the day, transparency is an important thing, and so the public's going to be able to see a lot more information. >> i'm all about transparency.

i'm the chair of the oversight committee. i believe that sunlight is the best disinfectant. i believe the american people should have access to all of that. >> are people going to buy that, brendan? this is all about being transparent with the american people. >> i think maybe what they're trying to get at is the january 6th committee told a story for many months and it had a point of view, and that is certainly true, and maybe there are parts that the january 6th committee didn't focus on, which is why was the capitol not prepared? what were the security failures? but the opposite side of that story is not that what happened on january 6th was not a big deal. transparency is not the same as propaganda, and what tucker carlson was doing was propaganda, and i think all of these people who lived through this, whose lives were endangered in some ways from this should be a little more outraged. this is a building they all work in that is almost sacred to a lot of us. it is the job of the house speaker to protect that building. i don't just mean promoting, you know, a positive discourse. i mean, literally the security

is your responsibility, and so the fact that they're down playing this is really disturbing to me as someone who spent a lot of time in that place. >> i keep going back on this program, jonathan to the same word, and i've used it in our conversations, and that's frankly exhaustion. and i wonder if one of the big problems with this is that even for people who maybe voted for donald trump or considered themselves to be republicans or are moderates, true independents who of voted for plenty of republicans in the past, this is just more of the stuff that made them want to just throw their arms up and say i can't do this anymore. is that maybe the real and present danger? at some point whoever wins the presidency, and in many cases in battleground states wins senate races, governorships are going to be people who can appeal to that middle. >> yeah, no exhaustion's a good word for it. we saw that in 2020. there were some voters who

backed trump in 2016, who said let's stop the ride. i want to get off in 2020. i don't want to be thinking about the president of the united states every second of the day. a lot of trump's arguments, a lot of election denialism didn't work in 2022. his hand picked candidates went down to defeat. americans don't want to buy that argument either. as a side note, the white house knows this, the biden administration. they deliberately tried to take the temperature down. they don't want to have a similar approach that trump did in terms of dealing with the media and the public. but this is still -- the danger still looms here. any kind of effort to down play one of the darkest days in american history, to try to normalize that, to suggest it was some sort of protest that got a little out of hand, that's worrisome for the slate -- it could give -- embolden some slated candidate who is will be running next year, not just for the president but as you say, for state house, for governor, for the senate, the house, state

legislatures, key positions including the defense of voting rights and conducting our elections fairly, and this sort of propaganda, that's the only word for it, is dangerous and could give fuel to all those efforts. >> i'm glad, jane, that he brought up election, you know, fairness, election integrity because ultimately, this dominion suit gave us a lot of fodder, right? we saw that the lies that were told about the election were premised on lies. they knew they were lying or at least their texts, again, indicate they knew that what they were saying didn't have any basis in fact. this suit really is about election integrity at its heart, isn't it? it's about can people trust whether it's people, it's machines, it's the whole process that is at the heart of the democracy. >> you know, it all comes back to whether or not there's accountability. if you say untrue things about election systems, whether or not

you're a media outlet or a politician, there's a point in these documents where murdoch sapd on january 6th, maybe the host should say biden won, it would go a lot to undermining the myth and trump's 2024 campaign, pretty prescient. >> thanks to all of you. much appreciated. now to the growing diplomatic fallout from a bombshell report about what may be the biggest mystery related to the russia and ukraine war, who is responsible for bombing the in order stream pipelines last september, an attempt some thought to undermine support for ukraine. those pipelines, remember, carried natural gas from russia to western europe rkts but reporting from "the new york times" says new intelligence suggests a pro-ukraine group may have carried out that attack. nbc's erin mclaughlin is following this story from kyiv. we should note both russia and

ukraine have denied any involvement in the bombings, which are still being investigated by multiple european countries, but erin, what do we know right now? what are the questions still out there as well? >> reporter: there's still so many unanswered questions when it comes to those pipeline attacks, chris. shortly after the news broke in "the washington post" and "the new york times" citing american and european officials that the attacks may have been the work of pro-ukraine groups, we did hear from german officials acknowledge that they have made at least some progress in the investigation. prosecutors putting out a statement saying that back in january they managed to search a ship that they believe may have been used to carry the explosives that were used to carry out the attacks, although the statement offered no further details in terms of possible perpetrator. we also heard from the german defense minister today say there are lots of questions here outstanding saying, quote, we have to make a clear distinction

whether it was a ukrainian group, whether it may have happened at ukrainian orders or a pro-ukrainian group acting without knowledge of the government, but i am warning against jumping to conclusions. he also added it was equally likely this was some sort of false flag operation designed to frame ukraine. in terms of the ukrainian government, they continue to fiercely deny having any involvement in the attacks. we heard from an adviser to president zelenskyy on twitter today say, although i enjoy collecting expertise theories about ukrainian government, i have to say ukraine has nothing to do with the baltic sea mishap and has no information about pro-ukraine sabotage groups. we also are hearing from the kremlin in all of this. a spokesperson for the kremlin say they are demanding a full transparent investigation with the involvement of the united nations and they of course would like to play a role in that investigation. as you can see, still a lot of questions outstanding about this. >> erin mclaughlin, thank you

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insides van or whatever, and i guess the others tried to run, and they got shot at the same time. shaeed and she watched them die. >> the names she can be heard mentioning there are of the two victims, shaeed woodward and zindell brown. the other survivor, eric williams is recovering from a gunshot wound to the leg. authorities say one suspect is in custody, but the hunt is still on to find other people who are ultimately responsible. i want to bring in nbc's ellison barber in lake city, south carolina, that's home to two survivors. also with us, nbc's ken dilanian with the latest from law enforcement. so ken, what do we know about the suspect they do have, and have we heard anything about the investigation or any movement in finding out who the cartel is and the other individuals are who are to blame? >> well, mexican authorities have identified that 24-year-old suspect as jose guadalupe, and

they haven't said very much about him, just that he was guarding that wooden shack where the two surviving americans and the two bodies were found after they were moved several times. in terms of the cartel, the gulf cartel is known to be the one in control in matamoros, but u.s. officials have not said to what extent they've learned who inside that cartel is responsible. i just want to reinforce, though, chris, what you just heard there from the family members of latavia mcgee, it's very important testimony because there's been a lot of misreporting potentially linked to what the mexican official said that somehow these people drove into an ongoing gunfight between cartel members. that's not what they described, that's not what law enforcement said, that's not what the fbi said and that's not what you heard the people describe. what they described is an attack directly on those americans. what we're being told is that that was a case of mistaken identity, but the fbi obviously still investigating the circumstances of that, chris. >> ellison, nbc spoke to eric williams' wife who said at first

she thought all this was just a scam. now i can only imagine what an emotional and traumatic time this is for her and, frankly, for all the families. what more can you tell us? >> reporter: yeah, the families are describing this wave of emotions, at least the families of those who have survived saying when they found out their loved ones were okay, they felt relief, but then having a whole host of questions, and then at the same time feeling absolutely gutted and heartbroken for the families of those who did not make it out. but let me let you listen to what eric williams' wife had to say about it. >> i was very relieved, i felt sorry for the other families, but i was relieved to know that he was -- that he was okay is and that i'd be able to see him and talk to him again, tell him that i love him, touch him, hug him, you know. >> reporter: so that's his brother you heard from there,

but his wife who nbc also spoke to said the same thing basically, they can't believe all of this happened. they felt relief knowing that he was going to be okay but then also absolute devastation and shock and pain for the families who were finding out something very different. the mayor of lake city where we are, she says that all four of the victims had ties to this community. later tonight, chris, we expect the community to hold a vigil. she, the mayor, has said that this community is trying to just wrap the families here who are still here with love and support as much as they can, but they, like so many people, have a whole host of questions about how and why this happened. chris. >> ellison barber, ken dilanian, thank you both so much. between covid origins, spy balloons, taiwan, potentially even arming russia, where does washington's relationship with beijing go from here? u.s./china tensions are in the spotlight today on capitol hill,

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intelligence and the cia director, and then tomorrow the house homeland security has a subcommittee on intelligence that is specifically focused on the threat from china, but a bit beyond the things that we'res a accustomed to. i talked to congressman august fulger, he's a former fighter pilot. he says there are everyday things we all take for granted that the chinese communist party is targeting. take a listen. >> are there things that you're concerned about, the electric grid, our water supply? are those all things that could possibly be on the table? >> absolutely. think about critical infrastructure. you mentioned a couple of things. think about the transmission lines for electricity, for energy, for our roads and like you mentioned different building -- variety building equipment, those things will be examined. we will look at not just the huawei networks that we see in other places, but right here in the united states, and i'll go a

step further in our academic life in the universities that we have. >> and so what congressman pfluger wants his committee to specifically zero in on is exactly just how serious this threat might be, and then what congress can do to stand in the way of it, but he said there's very basic things that americans aren't thinking about but the fact that there are chinese affiliated companies that are buying up thousands of acres of farmland and ranchland, that could be a threat to the american economy and food supply, and it's something he believes congress needs to highlight, chris. >> so janice, first of all welcome back to the u.s. the xi government is what you do for your day job when you're actually there. i mean, look, you've got all these hearings. i want to take it outside of capitol hill. you had beijing warning that the confrontation and conflict are inevitable unless the u.s. changes course. the u.s. has been in some ways dialing back a little bit. they've loosened the covid testing requirements on visitors from china. they're talking about keeping

lines of communication open, but what is the view really right now from beijing? is it that confrontation and conflict are inevitable or is that more hyperbole? >> well, chris, you've hit on it exactly with the lines of communication? they are not open. there is no common ground on any issue right now, and consider the flash points with trade, technology, covid origins, china's ties to russia, and there's no discussion happening on issues even like climate change. at the same time that these hearings are happening in washington highlights the reasons for the u.s. to worry about strategic relations with china, china is holding its annual political meetings this week. and it's not that anything that's going to be announced hasn't already been predetermined, but these meetings are watched for the nuance because they can hold clues on how the leadership is thinking. so that xi jinping in his speech

named the u.s. specifically as leading -- leading western countries in this effort to encircle and suppress china, that is not insignificant. it signals the level of unhappiness, and it also effectively states what the foreign policy stance is going to be towards the u.s. it's coming from the top, and it's starting to trickle down, and we saw that with the comments by the new foreign minister at his news conference, coming into the job as the former chinese ambassador to the u.s., and creating this belief that there was going to be room for dialogue with a figure like him effectively saying that the u.s. is trying to contain china and that it's -- he's warning of potential conflict. so you have the sum of this and the volume being turned up on all of the issues that are creating flash points, including the expansion of u.s. military

alliances in indo-pacific and the expectation that next week there's going to be another deal that's going to be announced jointly with the uk to provide submarines to australia. so you have all of this ramping up at the same time that there is no common ground to fall back on. there was -- there's also the domestic issues that china is trying to deal with too with propping up the economy coming out of three years of zero covid, what china is looking for in its relationship with the u.s. right now is stability so that it can try to remedy some of these other challenges it's having. it's why the significance of the secretary of state canceling that visit to beijing, the meetings with chinese officials and xi jinping that were supposed to put a floor into this deteriorating u.s./china relationship. ties aren't at the worst point they've probably been, but they're definitely deteriorating

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today the doj issued a stating report on the louisville police department nearly three years after its botched raid killed breonna taylor. the report states that for years the department has practiced an aggressive style of policing that it deploys selectively, especially against black people, but also against vulnerable people throughout the city. here's attorney general merrick garland. >> this conduct is unacceptable.

it is heartbreaking. it erodes the community trust necessary for effective policing and it is an affront to the vast majority of officers who put their lives on the line every day to serve louisville with honor. >> let's discuss this with paul butler, a former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst for a lot of folks, they're going to look at this conclusion and say it's not really a surprise, but what did you find most significant about these findings? >> so chris, the breonna taylor case revealed some deep problems with the louisville police. not only was an unarmed woman shot and killed, her death was the result of a botched police raid based on unreliable information, and then afterwards the police filed this report that was full of lies. for example, it said that no one had been hurt even though breonna taylor had been shot many times. so today's report from the

department of justice demonstrates that these substantial problems were not limited to breonna taylor, that they're systemic. so the report said that the louisville police have undermined public safety. they stop people for minor infractions like making a wide turn or having a broken taillight, and meanwhile, the department fails to adequately investigate and solve serious crimes like murder and rape. >> this is a louisville police department that is 81% white, charged with patrolling neighborhoods that are predominantly black. the kentucky state representative who lobbied for briana's law, said to finally get some type of acknowledgment that lmpd has been terrorizing the black community is a relief. but this is really now where the work starts over again. so the question does become obviously where does it go from here? it's one thing to say we have a

problem. it's another thing to fix it. >> that's exactly right. the report really is a catalog of horribles of police misconduct, excessive force, no-knock warrants, illegal traffic stops, street sweeps, and the report found that police selectively deployed these tactics against black people. they even used racial like boy and monkey. requiring the police to stop rolling up on people and asking if they can search their cars and bodies, but chris, for real reform to work, the culture of policing in louisville has to be transformed from this warrior mentality where the cops look at citizen as kind of us against them. so the focus of reform has to be on accountability and transparency including giving the community a role in what happens next, especially in oversight. >> well, one of the parts of accountability really is what

doj can do. do you think that this report is -- i don't know if road map is the right word, but is it at least a start? and an example of how doj should investigate police departments if there are what seem to be problems? >> it's absolutely a necessary and important beginning. so what usually happens is that the city and the justice department reach an agreement to engage in a number of reforms that will be overseen by a monitor, a federal monitor. so this report is a product of an intensive two-year investigation looking at every aspect of the department, training, structures for transparency and accountability, facilities, equipment, body cam, dash cam video, all of those are subject to vie, chris, and all of those are subject to reform. >> paul butler, always great to have you on the program. thank you, paul, appreciate it. meantime, georgia is now closer to providing prosecutors

with a new tool to fight hate. after a wave of anti-semitic flyers were left at the homes of jewish people in a suburb of atlanta. this proposed legislation would adopt the definition of what qualifies as anti-semitism. it's the one that's used by the international holocaust remembrance alliance. here's the state's only jewish legislator on why that matters. >> there is nothing in the torah about a swastika. you need a definition to be able to say that a swastika is anti-semitic. it's as simple as that. things that you would think would be obvious are not obvious. >> she said the bill wouldn't create any new crimes. what it is is an important guide for prosecutors deciding whether there's sufficient evidence to trigger those additional hate crime penalties. and voters in oklahoma have rejected a ballot initiative

that would have legalized recreational marijuana use by adults 21 and over. there's no shortage of medical marijuana dispensaries across the state with more than 400 in oklahoma city alone. oklahoma now joins a number of conservative states where voters have voted against the legalization of recreational marijuana. another aviation fiasco, but this latest one deadly. a small plane collision, we've got those details next. and inside the dea. we'll talk to the agency's former head of international operations about whether it's even possible to take down the drug cartel. that's ahead. that's ahead

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just yesterday two small planes carrying four people collided in winter haven, florida. all four on board died. and 48 hours ago, that scary scene on a plane bound for boston when a man allegedly tried to open an emergency door in flight, it's something that senator ted cruz asked about at today's hearing. >> so what would have happened if he had succeeded in opening the door mid-flight? >> let me just say, sir, that on a pressurized flight, it is a plug type door, so it is over pressurized, he would not have been able to open it during flight while it's pressurized. >> that suspect, by the way, due in court tomorrow. now, when billy nolan testified in front of that senate panel this morning, he did so as we said as acting head of the faa, just one in a long line of biden positions left in limbo. nearly 90 of them still waiting for confirmation. a unique series of battles that have left some critical pieces

of the administration's agenda in limbo as well. and some nominees are saying that those bruising battles just aren't worth it. the nominee to head the fcc is the latest to say, thanks, but no thanks. let's bring in "politico" white house reporter and msnbc political contributor, eugene daniels. as if on cue, the pm play book just came into my cell phone, ask the headline is two biden nominees hit senate speed bumps. what can you tell us about those? >> yeah, this is for president biden's nominee for the irs commissioner, senator joe manchin, a democrat saying he's going to vote against him. he has some issues and concerns over him having autonomy to do his job, but it looks like that that position may be safe. senator biden said he will be confirmed, he'll likely be confirmed. but erin garcetti who was nominated for the u.s. ambassador to india, he has been

dealing with issues for nearly 600 days. the senate ranking number said that he was pulling his support from him as well. this has happened over and over and over again as we move forward over these 600 days is how he handles sexual misconduct allegations against a top adviser, and that's something that eric garcetti had dealt with for a long time. it doesn't seem to be changing. both of those things are happening and the other issues, the woman who pulled out yesterday saying that basically it's not worth it. they're probably going to continue to see that. there's frustration in the white house, and frustration for people who feel like they're qualified. some of them, the opposition to them has almost nothing to do with how they would do the job, but it's about tweaks, and sometimes it's about things completely unrelated to their job and dealing with foreign policy, how the administration handled the pull out of

afghanistan, and the russian relationship. >> let me go deeper into that, another galaxy long, long ago, cabinet and major departmental were the purview of the president. there were 1,200 positions that have to be confirmed so if they were qualified, the president wanted them, generally most of them were approved. now you've got nominees in places like the faa and fcc going through these bruising years long battles in some cases, and the case of the woman yesterday, i think it was almost a year that she waited. what's changed? >> yeah, you know, politics has changed. both republicans who are looking at these issues as a place to make a point, right, on issues that they disagree with politically and policy-wise with the administration, holding up confirmations because they know that the white house wants these things done. also the white house has struggled to kind of corral

democrats, what we have seen over the last two years and two months that president biden has been in office, corralling democrats behind these things, and that is because that party has a large swath of different ideologies, right, and so when you talk to someone like joe manchin who wants to at times show he's independent of this administration. we're going to continue to see that, right? we have 2024 right around the corner, and both republicans and democrats are going to take these kinds of opportunities to show how different and how there may be a split between them and this white house. >> in the meantime, there are real world consequences, the fcc, for example, hasn't had a democratic majority for all of the time that biden has been in the white house. they're at a 2-2 split. makes it hard to get stuff done, and, you know, if you're talking about the faa or scc it isn't usually scintillating conversation, but there are

consequences for policy, aren't there? >> you look at what's going on with all of these issues that are happening with travel, and that people, like you said, people don't really pay attention to a lot of these things. when you see, you know, these people on the train trying to open the doors, right? that is something that you would want the head of the faa administrator to be having conversations with, to have the full power of not being acting but the actual administrator, and then this is another by product of this is that the people, voters, people in this country continue to see government not working, right, talking about how, you know, we sent you guys here to do things and yet you're not doing one of the easiest parts of the job which is saying yes or no to someone for nominations, the reasons why they are saying no to some of these folks. the trust in the institutions is also taking a hit with regular voters and it's hard to see how that changes, right, it's hard to see how senators kind of put aside their own political

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a major and controversial move by weight watchers today, the diet company now jumping into the prescription drug market. nbc's stephanie gosk has more. >> reporter: the old guard of weight loss is getting on board with the latest weight loss sensation. >> my clothes fit differently, my diet has changed. >> reporter: ww international announced it is buying the company sequence for $100 million. the subscription service helps overweight customers access ground breaking medications like ozempic with diabetes, reducing hunger and making people feel full longer. >> we can give proper information to the masses about the appropriate use of these medications. >> reporter: since their approval, ozempic in 2017, and

wagovi in 2021, the drugs have become wildly popular. >> i have concerns about off label use. >> reporter: medical professionals worry people are using them who don't really need them, leading to shortages. >> i would hope that weight watchers would put some guide rails on the use of somalatide. they should not be recommending it to people who only want to lose 5 or 10 pounds. >> how will weight watchers prevent people who shouldn't be on these medications from getting these medications? >> first, the decision to be on a medication is going to be based on the individual member and their health care provider. >> reporter: stephanie gosk, nbc news. we have a lot to cover in our second hour of "chris jansing reports". let's get right to it. at this hour, a federal review, the doj will