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the u.n. secretary general says, we are 300 years away from gender equality. warning the progress that has been made is vanishing before our eyes. whether it is right here in the u.s. where abortion access is disappearing in many places, to reports that iranian students and vast majority girls may have been poisoned. whether it is women in ukraine that are facing invasion as russia goes into a second year. and today that you inside afghanistan is the most repressive country for women after the taliban's takeover erased their rights. women may be down, but they are not out. the afghan off girls robotics team has not given up on a more able future. listen. >> i can be the voice of my friends, and i can do something from here that can help them. >> and they know they are the lucky ones, safely out of the country, safe enough to dream big. >> our friends are --
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the future leaders, the future engineers, the ones who can bring a solution for the counselor. we are also trying hard to serve our country from afar, to tell the world and show the world that afghan girls can be amazing if they are given the opportunity. >> a reminder that when some suffer we all suffer. the only way we can truly win is together. because together, we rise. and on that note, i wish you all a very good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thank you for staying up late, i will see you at the end of tomorrow. >> if you watched an hour fox news is, today odds are you saw
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-- an ad for election tonight mike lindell's pillow, or his slippers. we scroll through the entire, day time we will never get back, and counted 30 ads by mike lindell in a 24-hour period. even though that is a lot of advertising for slipper slippers, that is not a scandal. mr. lindell can spend it is as much of his company money on fox as he would like. what is alarming about the sheer volume of fox ad time that is occupied by mr. lindell, what is alarming, is this. on december 17th, 2020, the ceo of fox news was forwarded this email by an executive in the fox news communications department. my pillows mike lindell was on newsmax tonight and criticize fox news quite a bit, saying it look like we were in on stealing the election from trump. he did say that he wouldn't pull ads over it, but he did make suggestive comments about our audience being smaller than before. the next morning, fox news ceo
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suzanne scott replied, as my personal noted gift been sent to mike? meanwhile, fox continue to let mike lindell on their air as a guest, so, he can push the big lie that the election was stolen. now, we have these emails because yesterday, a gigantic drop of raw evidence in the billion dollar defamation lawsuit between the dominion voting systems corporation and fox news, was released. it is such a gigantic amount of emails and texts and deposition transcripts, even now, more than 24 hours later, we are still not through it all. one of the things that we are seeing, again and again here, and this pile of evidence, the typical firewalls and guardrails, the checks and balances that you would expect from a real news organization. they just want their. there's a clear conflict of interest in having someone like mike lindell as both an on air guest, pushing the conspiracy theory that the election was stolen, a theory, by the way, that fox news appears to have known was not true, and at the very same time, having lindell as a major advertiser on the
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network. an advertiser important enough that the network ceo was sending lindell personal notes and gifts to try to keep folks on lindell's good side. from these emails, we're seeing that there's literally no division between advertising and editorial. mike lindell played in both worlds. he was allowed to promote the big lie on fox airwaves, apparently, that was going to keep him selling pillows on the same airwaves. and keep the fox audience buying pillows. maybe also slippers. the emails for the revealed that making the partisan objectives of the news division over at fox. here's the exchange between host maria bartiromo and former trump advisor, steve bannon, a few days after the election was called in november 2020. i want to see massive fraud exposed. will he be able to turn this around? i told my team we are not allowed to say president elect at all. not in scripts or in banners or on air.
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until this moves through the courts. bannon, 71 million voters will never accept biden. this process is to destroy his presidency before it starts. if it even starts. bartiromo, but i'm sad and scared. bannon, you are our fighter, enough with the said. we need you. bartiromo, okay. that is fox news to host, maria bartiromo, applauding with one of the most influential strategist in the republican party, about how to delegitimized the rightfully elected president of the united states. at one point, bannon even tells, he wants bartiromo to run for
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senate against chuck schumer, all as part of some big republican strategy to win back control of the u.s. government. it is all very, very well stuff. the wildest part of what we learned from yesterday's release of evidence, this kind of behavior goes all the way to the top. we showed you last night, rupert murdoch, the owner of the media empire that owns fox news, how murdaugh admitted in his deposition, he gave senior trump advisor, jared kushner, a preview of the biden campaign ads before the republic. specifically, to help the trump campaign, to give them an edge in crafting a strategy. this is an email from murdaugh to fox news ceo suzanne scott in 2020. he explained that he just spoke with president trump, who told murdaugh which fox news host he liked, and which he didn't like. based on their coverage of him. he thought it wise to let the ceo of fox news no those preferences, so, she could act accordingly. then there's this email, again, from rupert murdoch to the ceo
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of fox news. complaining about an apparent outburst fox host lou dobbs had against republican senator lindsey graham. rupert murdoch asked, could sean, meeting foxes sean kennedy, say something supportive? we can't lose the senate if at all possible. does that we mean we the republican party? does it mean fox news? it is kind of hard to tell where one stops in the other begins. here's another one. again, for murdaugh to the ceo of fox news. this time, november of 2020. after the general election once it was clear, the control of the senate would be decided by runoff elections in georgia. quote, we should concentrate on georgia, helping anyway we can. who is the we hear? it turns out, over an overgrown, that question is hard to answer. when you're talking about the
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highest levels of fox news. if you have any doubt of the kind of power that rupert murdoch has had over fox, and our national discourse, hear from the man himself. tonight, the voting machine company, dominion, filed their final brief, asking the court to decide in its favor without a trial. in that brief, one of the key pieces of evidence comes from the deposition of rupert murdoch. when asked if he, as the owner fox news, could have stopped conspiracy theories like rudy giuliani or sidney powell from appearing on the fox news, rupert murdoch said, quote, i could have, but i didn't. joining us now is california congressman, adam schiff. congressman, thank you so much for being here. i know that you have previously said about this dominion lawsuit, and the related revelations at fox, endangers americans. i wonder what you think of this latest batch, what role you think fox plays in the future of our democracy? >> well, i'm shocked on the one hand, on the other hand, not at
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all surprised. i think we always knew that, you know, buried within folks, there was a motive to essentially the state run tv for the republican party. a state run tv for donald trump. but to see it so graphically, to see it in black and white, to see rupert murdoch basically say, it's all about the money. that this was all about keeping profit, keeping ratings up, to see tucker carlson privately talk about how much he despised donald trump. and seeing his prices on the air, to talk about privately how absurd these fraud claims are. and then to highlight people making those absurd fraud claims, to see people like tucker carlsen talking about firing people who actually called the direction election correctly, because the moneymaking at fox. it is so destructive of the country, what they're doing. and the motive could not be any more clear.
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it's just all about the money. i do think what they've done to the country has just been terrible. they played a pivotal role in the propagation of the big lie, in causing distrust of our elections, they're now playing a pivotal role in trying to rewrite history about the insurrection, which might encourage further violence. also, let's not forget, tucker carlson using that big platform to essentially talk up kremlin talking points in the war in ukraine. it just could not be more destructive of the country, of democracy, and it's all about the money. >> given your role in january 6th committee, i wonder if you could let us know the degree to which top fox was a topic of conversation as you are all investigating the roots of the insurrection. as you all were trying to demonstrate, show the american public, what happened that day. was fox something you talked about? was fox something you considered in that attempt to
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overthrow democracy? >> fox is something we talked about. we did, as you know, look at the effect of social media. and some of the whistleblower insights we got from people with different platforms. on facebook and twitter. we also talked about fox. we looked at academic analysis of how fox played an equally big role in propagating the big lie. we did make the decision, where information we received, was on the basis of expert input. that we were going to rely more on the testimony, the fact based testimony, that we received, rather than broadening a report to cover what academia had to say. nonetheless, we were conscious of the fox effect. that's a much more difficult one at the end of the day to deal with. then social media, when you could take away their immunity, you can hold them liable, tools
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congress has. but with fox, delivered on a private plane -- you can't impose a fairness doctrine, as you could with public airwaves that are owned by the public. the only way to go after the live on fox is to go after the money on fox. which is why the dominion litigation is so important, it's why people that are advertising the pillow guy, but credible companies, should not be advertising, in my personal view, on a company that is knowingly pushing down such divisive lies. >> do you -- i mean i think you've answered this question, in terms of what can be done beyond the lawsuit, be ongoing after fox's coffers,
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i know that chuck schumer and hakeem jeffries sent a letter earlier this month to rupert murdoch, demanding he reign in fox news hosts and make them admit on-air they were wrong to engage in negligent behavior. it doesn't sound like you believe the federal government, or the congress, can play any further role in disabuse-ing fox of its wicked ways, if you will. can you conjure up a scenario in which fox is held accountable? is it the resolution of this dominion suit? potentially, where they have to admit on their own air that they lied? what recourse is there for people who are reading this stuff, and not only horrified by the malfeasance, but terrified about the future of the country when people are so willing to lie to the american public? >> you know, i really think
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that the only remedies are going to be the financial ones. it's why the dominion litigation is so important, if they get hit with a multi billion dollar penalty, that will get their attention. they cannot be shamed. you would think that these emails, now being published, these text messages showing what knowing liars they are, showing rupert murdoch admitting, he could've put a stop to the lies, he didn't. because it's all about the money, all about the green. you would think that would be shame enough, of course, they can't be shamed. what's motivating them isn't conscience, it isn't doing the right thing, it isn't even their reputation. it's just the money. so, this litigation, if there's litigation over the lies they've pushed in the pandemic, and people died because of those lies, and privately anymore communications, they're talking about how they need to take precautions within the company, because this virus isn't like the flu. then there's other liability, lies they pushed about the officers, the lies that tucker carlson pushing about death of officer sicknick. that exposes them to further
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liability. and maybe that's gonna be the only thing that gets their attention. >> the green. the thing they care the most about. california congressman, adam schiff, thank you as always for your time and thoughts, sir. >> thank you. >> joining me now is angela carey son, chairman and president of media matters. thank you for coming on the show tonight. i know your organization has been aggressive in following what fox is doing, but also taken specific action in the course of this dominion lawsuit, can you tell me a little bit more about the? >> yeah, i think we are or -- we have been following this very closely. just to give you an example, there's been 1261 my pillow ads on fox news so far this year. >> you've been counting. you're the unlucky souls have been counting the. >> yes, we have taken action. one of them is to follow -- i think the discussion you are having earlier about what's gonna happen now, what's the consequences? where is the accountability? i think we're gonna start to
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see it. part of it's gonna be financial, part of it's gonna be their power, because they are's draft between a rock and a hard place. it's gonna come from a series of cascading consequences. the thing we did, we filed a complaint with the fcc, we need to pull the threat of what you talked about the intro, that advertiser that rupert murdoch acknowledge that he shared with the trump campaign. that is an illegal contribution. it is very clear, the laws extremely well established on this. it says that, corporations cannot make a contribution, non material things of value, material things are val, can be counted as a contribution. and that information about advertising strategy is considered a thing of value. so, all of those criteria have been checked off. we filed a complete with fcc, here's what rupert murdoch said he did, here's where the fcc lies, follow through on it now
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and get maximum accountability and consequences. that's one piece. the other pieces, and i think this does tie into this broader conversation, where the power and the profit meet together. fox news derives a lot of its profit from leveraging its power, not just politically, but to really drive up their relationships with cable companies. fox news is the second most expensive channel on the capable. >> carriage fees, sub fees. >> and the dirty secret about fox news, they don't need a single and to be profitable. they would still have a 90% profit margin if they had zero dollars an advertising revenue.
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the same way that one american news was hand held accountable in part because of what they were pushing about the conspiracy theories, it's also they were overpriced. six times market rate. that's with the cable companies were paying for them. fox news is overpriced right now. it's overpriced. they are not consistent with market rate, part of the reason they were able to get those big prices, because the way that they leverage their audience for political power. they leveraged their audiences during these cable fights. yet, there are small minority of the larger cable consuming audience. i do, i am not an optimist, i sit in the fever swamps every day. >> you're counting the my pillow ads. >> i know what this world, is how asymmetrical it is.
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in this moment, we are at an inflection point. i do think there will be cascading consequences. i think shareholders will start taking action to. i've already seen eight law firms begin to organize shareholders, of fox and say, wait, you breached fiduciary duty. you violated your responsibilities. i do, i think this is a moment. it doesn't have to be, it's going to require consistency and persistence in action, but there is a real inflection point happening here. >> there is the business side of fox, and how it can be leveraged into, how punishment may be meted out on the business side, then there's the democratic the philosophical implications of punishing fox or not punishing fox when it comes to democracy. and the reality is, fox has not been talking about this lawsuit on a tear. fox viewers have no idea that the lawsuit is ongoing, they may not know anything about these depositions. do you foresee any kind of future where the fox news viewer, which is a viewer that, with all due respect to our msnbc audience, it's probably not watching this network, maybe not watching other networks, very loyal to fox. where that viewers ever told the truth about what happened? >> i think, possibly. here's why i say that. in part, it's that, what makes the fox powerful, it sits atop a large right-wing echo chamber. that echo change, right now, is going through a big sorting. rush limbaugh was not around anymore, a lot more elbow room for audiences tothere's a lot of internal friction spil they' got to fi consistent way in which we is, plus, marjorie taylor greene is d'rloyal.
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carlson, has been using his airtime to offer a counter narrative of january 6th, portraying the capitol riot as peaceful chaos, it is worth remembering, kevin mccarthy, the speaker of the house, who enabled this false narrative by giving tucker carlson access to the surveillance footage in the first place, it is worth remembering, that mr. mccarthy once had a pretty clear understanding of what happened that day. >> these men and women in the uniform, they got overrun. one officer got killed. they got broken arms. you don't understand what was transpiring at that moment and that time. people hanging, people brought ropes. but when i got back into my building, i found the straps that they had. i don't they come and try to kidnap or somebody whatever, they were well planned for it. >> fast forward to today. and republicans now find themselves in the very uncomfortable position of having to either get on board with tucker carlson's alternate reality, or actually speak the truth about what happened on january 6th. yesterday, senate republican leader, mitch mcconnell, called
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carlson's depiction of january 6th, a mistake. today, his senate colleagues mitt romney and lindsey graham, also denounced tucker carlson's efforts. >> there is no questions at the january 6th was a riot, an insurrection attempt. an effort to overturn the process designed in the constitution, to allow the voice to the people to be carried out and our elected representatives. >> i don't take any part in whitewashing january 6th, it wasn't a stroll through the capitol. it was an attack on our capitol. >> texas republican congressman, dan crenshaw, also ridiculed the effort, telling political today, if your message is to try to convince people that nothing bad happened. it's gonna make us look silly. not everyone agrees. today, we learned that georgia congresswoman and mccarthy ella, marjorie taylor greene, and house oversight chair, james comer, or planning a congressional allegation to visit january 6th defendants in jail. the field trip to the d. c. jail to check in on the
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insurrectionists. house republicans are also planning multiple new probes into january 6th. specifically, the security failures from that day, and potentially, the treatment of january six defendants. also, an investigation into the january 6th committee itself. that last investigation will be led by georgia congressman, barry loudermilk, who according to the january 6th committee, gave a private tour of the capitol to a rioter the day before the attack. joining us now is tim miller, writer for the bulwark and an msnbc political analyst. tim, it's great to have you. i always turn to you for a
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reading of the insanity inside the gop. today is no different than the other day. what happens in this fight to re-litigate history? on one hand, the fact that you have some establishment republicans coming out and saying, it was an insurrection. don't believe is anything else. seems like a good sign for truth. the reality is that the base really likes to relitigate fights that make donald trump look bad. and donald trump seems intent on relitigating this, marjorie taylor greene seems intent on relitigating it, they're powerful voices in the republican caucus, and i wonder how you think this ends? >> it's a burden of privilege to be the one having you, the expertise in this matter alex, thank you for having me. look, i think that it ends, not well, politically for kevin mccarthy. kevin mccarthy is forced to let marjorie taylor greene carry around on a leash, and determine what should be done for the caucus. look, mitch mcconnell, they're planning of criticisms you can levy at mitch mcconnell. he at least has always tried to
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do what was the most politically palatable for the republican conference in the senate. while doing what he needed to do to suck up to donald trump. so, that was not a profile in courage, of course, at least he was trying to always look to what was the best politically for republicans. when he was making these moves. he was navigating trump's craziness. kevin mccarthy is just full and giving into trump. i think this demand, that was put forth by tucker carlson, remember, during the umpteen different ballots before kevin became speaker, this demand that this should be put out, the demand that we relitigate the january 6th committee, and demand that we look into whether the doj wrongfully targeted the people that attacked the capitol, those were all demands we put forth by the mega wing of the party, and by tucker carlson. kevin mccarthy has had to just completely given to them. not because it's the right thing for the party to do, it's obviously the wrong thing, as mitch mcconnell and lindsey graham and others have said, but because it's what he has to do to stay in the speakership. >> yeah, kevin mccarthy knows
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what he said that the. we played the audio where he's very clear about the threats he faced. we have footage from him on the floor of congress, talking about the dangers that day, he knows he said those things. yet, tucker carlson, in a way, as you would tell it, is asking kevin mccarthy to commit political suicide. head over the tapes, or you don't get the speakership. once you head over the tapes, it's going to put you in effectively an untenable position. do you think, do you think this issue animates the fractious wing of his party enough that it could actually cost him the speakership in the end? once these investigations are underway, in a relocation of january 6th is actually happening. >> the reason you're speaker
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right, now is because you can't beat somebody with nobody. the maga wing of the party has a lot of people that are good on newsmax, and good on social media, but don't have a lot of people that are ready to replace him as speaker. will it cost him the speakership? i don't know. but it's just a tiny preview of this box that he put himself in, that's gonna happen over an over again, on issue after issue, look at kyiv, for example, he was invited to kyiv, with the zelenskyy, any other speaker of the house would've obviously gone there, to show solidarity with our ally. to demonstrate foreign policy. kevin can't do that. she knows that there is the rousseau file caucus, that will be mad at him for going. with zelenskyy. the same thing is gonna come up when the funding comes around again for ukraine. his own chief of staff that he's already put himself in a box on the debt limit to touch agree that he can't meet the promise that he's already made to his own caucus. can he continue to survive? for a while. or until somebody comes up to challenge him. but i do think they will
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continue to advance these total own goals, the do nothing to help the republican party broadly, but only serve his political survival in the short term. i think this is the first really high-profile example that they're going to be more to come. >> you know you're between a rock and a hard place when your options are either relitigating january 6th, or preparing the country for a catastrophic default, courtesy of your own party. that is where the speaker of the house find some self today. tim miller, thank you, my friend, as always. for making sense of the madness. >> thanks, alex. >> we have still more to come tonight, including more of my exclusive interviews from new college in florida. this time, i talked to parents who regret not paying better attention to what governor ron desantis was doing in their state. until he came for their kids. speaking of the governor, today, he tried to distance himself from criticisms of his drastic overhaul of education in florida. even as he and his allies in the republican controlled legislature are building on what they already started. that's next. shingles. the rash can feel like pulsing, electric shocks and last for weeks. a pain so intense, you could miss out on family time. the virus that causes shingles is likely already inside of you. 50 years or older? ask your doctor about shingles.
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florida, something they don't look books in the library, that's a hoax. that's really nasty hoax, because it's a hoax in service of trying to pollute and sexualize our children. we'll also talk about the black history hoax, the idea that somehow we're not teaching about that. and not teaching about things like racial discrimination. >> today we saw florida governor, ron desantis, on defense. trying to explain away the results of the 2022 legislative accomplishments he bragged about just a day ago during his state of the state address. desantis backpedaled on the podium, promising to expose the book banned hoax, and provide this opening statement. myth number one, florida has banned books from the classroom. and then fact number one, here are the books parents found in florida schools and reported to the school districts for removal. which is very much still banning books from the
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classroom, and also doesn't account for the children in classroom libraries across the state. the governor used a similar strategy to defend his stop woke law and, his decision to reject a new ap african american studies course. despite desantis's efforts, people in the state who are affected by his stop woke and don't say gay laws, do not seem to be buying it. these laws have had an undeniably chilling effect on classrooms and teachers and students across the state, as they sort through the anti woke provision stipulated in those laws, sometimes, under threat of felony prosecution. already, desantis in the florida legislature, or adding to the legislative pile. shifting their focus to include state colleges. the new house bill on the dock at the session, takes aim at college diversity and inclusion and equity -- includes majors or minors and critical race theory, gender studies or intersectionality. and it puts professors up for tenure review at anytime. even before that bill becomes law, desantis in florida lawmakers have already planted their flag in a small, public
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liberal arts school called new college. the new york times columnist michelle goldberg has been closely tracking the changes on this campus, in january, she interviewed one of desantis's handpicked new trustees for the college. someone who's become nationally notorious for his fervent anti crt campaigns. his name is chris ruffo. goldberg writes, the fight over the future of new college is about more than just the fate of the small school in sarasota. for desantis, it's part of a broader quest to crush any hint of progressivism in public education, a quest he'd likely take national if he ever became president. for ruffo, a reconstructed new college would serve as a model for conservatives to copy all over the country. if we can take this high risk, high reward gambit and turned it into a victory, we're going to see conservative state legislators starting to re-conquer public institutions all over the united states, he said.
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should he prevail, it will set the stage for an even broader assault on the academic freedom of every instructor whose worldview is at odds with the republican party. that is the goal of this new college trustee. reconquer public institutions across the country. last week, i spoke with some parents of students at new college, one of them has a non-binary child, the other is a parent of a biracial transgender child. both parents told me, they are terrified. they want the whole country to know exactly what's at stake. [crowd chanting] >> i think it's important that everybody in the country knows what's happening here in florida, not just at the school, but what's going to happen at the other public schools. because a lot of people have children in public schools, i just say, we have to keep speaking, we have to keep making our voices heard. the truth is, we have to keep begging people in power to speak for us. and that's what i'm willing to do, i don't have any shame left. i never wanted to be on tv,
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ever. i'm terrified. i want america to know what's happening here. because i know governor desantis is running for president. >> i started seeing all this book banning and the k-12, don't say gay, and it said right center. i was like, my kids gonna be an adult soon. then obviously, now they're coming for adults in higher education in telling them how they can think and feel and express themselves. and i was like, whoa, i started digging in i'm like, wow, this -- slowly and methodically taking over school boards. they've been destroying things from the ground up. now that i realize a real is the mistake i made, i should've put my head in the sand. it's definitely much more far-reaching than i thought, i'm probably more far-reaching than the country realizes. >> what are the implications of the college does it make it? if it becomes something else? what are the implications for your son and your family? >> i used to be a doctor, i got sick. i spent most of my money trying to stay alive, which now, may not have been the best
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decision. but we're gonna make the sacrifices that we need to make, to get our children the education that they deserve. one way or the other. >> that might change slightly. >> what do you think parents are prepared to do to save new college? >> i think they're prepared to do anything it takes, barring violence. nobody wants to be violent. but as far as financially and emotional support, they're willing to do whatever it takes. >> -- america needs to pay attention. pay attention. >> it gets the point across. exactly. >> and that's the truth. it's a first. it's going to spread. >> well, it is spreading. >> i have never, in my life, felt such a sense of purpose. never. i have never been so humbled by the people that i have met. my faith in humanity is restored. because i feel like i was losing that, watching all the
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things that have been happening in the country, in the last six years. >> i mean, it's personal. >> oh, it's so personal. >> when it's clear cut, it's deeply personal. >> when you come after someone 's children, there's nothing that is give -- apparent a better sense of, okay. okay, i'm coming after you. now, you've pistol soft, quite frankly. >> when we come back, we will have more on what governor
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desantis is doing down in florida, and why it's invoking comparisons to one of europe's most anti-democratic leaders, viktor orban of hungry. we will talk to michelle goldberg of the new york times about those parallels, coming up next. later, republicans are criticizing one of their own. one of the most high-profile projects of the republican-led house. stick around for that. i trusted the experts at safelite. with their state-of-the-art technology, they replaced the windshield, recalibrated the car's camera, and then recycled my old glass. i found out safelite recycles over three million windshields a year. great job! >> tech: thank you! >> woman: replace, recalibrate, recycle. i count on safelite. ♪ rock music ♪ >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪
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politicians want to project is that they are authentic voice of the working class against a local elites. it's an illusion that conveniently obscures the actual class and material interests at play. gop remains reliably a party wholly devoted to the bosses. we got to watch this whole narrative implode on itself in realtime today. in washington. the president of the teamsters was testifying for the senate health education labor and pensions committee. republican senator -- of oklahoma, who used to own a plumbing company, try to grandstand. >> union pipe fitters decide they're gonna come after us. they would show up at my house. they'd be leaning up against my
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trucks. i'm not afraid of physical confrontation, in fact, sometimes i look forward to it. when that didn't work, they started picketing our job sites, saying shame on mail-in. shame on one. for what? for what? because we are paying higher wages? because we had better benefits and we wasn't required them to pay your exorbitant salaries? you're talking about ceos that are making all this money? and what do you make, mr. o'brien? >> well i'm glad you asked that, -- >> i know what you make, because in 2019 your salary was what is this, 193,000? i'm sure you got some pay raises since then? >> and an average cbs driver, a feeder driver, makes 35,000 a year? and what do you bring?
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>> that that's inaccurate. state facts. >> the average u. p. s. driver makes 35, 000, if you don't know your facts, maybe you should be -- >> i negotiate contracts. >> i say one thing to. what do you bring for that cell or? >> what do i bring? >> what job have you committed, or have you started, what jobs have you created, one job? other than sucking the paycheck out of some buddy else that you want to say that you're trying to provide? because you're forcing them to pay dues? >> you're out of line. >> don't tell me i'm out of line. >> don't tell me i'm out of line. >> you frame -- >> you need to shut your mouth. >> you don't know what you're talking about. >> hold on. >> tough guy, i'm not afraid of physical confrontation. >> don't sit there tell me i'm out of line. >> senator, you made a statement, you asked a question.
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>> you did ask a question. you asked a question, about how much money he made, let him answer. >> it was a rhetorical question? >> you can make it rhetorical, it sounded to me like a question. let him answer the question. >> i'm not yielding my time to him, if you can let me keep my time, that's fine. >> you have your time, you asked a question. he has a right to answer that. >> as far as my salary goes, my celery, if you follow me around, and look at this building, ibex i work work more hours than you do. twice as many hours. >> that's impossible. >> that's true. >> sir, you don't know what hard work is. >> secondly, i'll do it in a minute. it's called greedy ceos like yourself accountable. >> you call me a greedy ceo. you want to check my salary, i'll tack yours. what did you make when you and your company? >> i kept my celery down at about 50,000 a year because i invested every penny into it. >> okay, you had money?
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>> no, i didn't. >> hold on a second. he said that's a lie, -- >> we're not even. we're not even close to being even. >> yeah, it made 50,000. >> you had money. >> former company owner knows perfectly well the salary is not the full picture of a ceo compensation. here's an example. jeff bezos, you know that guy? he has a base salary, stated just over $81,000 a year from 1998 to this decade. he is, of course, one of the wealthiest man on earth. according to the tulsa world -- markwayne mullin is doing pretty well himself, mullins on has reported assets balloon from or somewhere between seven point 3 to 29 point $9 million at the end of 2020. to arrange, a starting range, between 31 point 6 to 75 point $6 million at the end of 2021.
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hardly the asset declaration of a working stiff.
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the republican-led house select subcommittee on the weaponization of the federal government held its first hearing and is still failed to provide any evidence of the purported russianization of the federal government. republican jim jordan's pet project has apparently been over promising and under delivering when it comes to exposing a legit abuses by the government. a recent headline from axios rates, jim jordan scrambles and then claims weaponization probe is a dad. this comes after democrats on the committee attention to the republicans on the panel were not relying on testimony from actual government whistleblowers, but it said on conspiracy theorists with ties to former trump allies.
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now the committee is taking heat from those who traditionally might support his effort. just yesterday, former top staffer for republican senator chuck grassley went on steve bannon's show to say the committee is just structurally set up to fail, and other reason is that this is a failure on jim jordan's part. he went on to add, quote, jim jordan is just not a serious person. even jesse waters over at fox's word pleading on air, make me feel better guys! tell me this is going somewhere. in response, jordan defended his panels work awesome for in an interview saying, i feel like our staff is working their tail off and when getting things up and rolling. the chairman of thousands even more rounds of subpoenas and testimonies from whistleblowers and he is promised more in the days to come. the panel second hearing is slated for tomorrow. that does it for us tonight. we will see you again tomorrow. now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell! good evening lawrence! >> gen

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