3%. no billionaire should be paying a lower tax than somebody working as a schoolteacher or a firefighter or any of you in this room. so my plan is to make sure the corporations begin to pay their fair share. it used to be 35%. we cut it down to 21%. i think we should be paying 28%. that's going to be a real fight, but we should be paying more than 21%. let me make clear under my plan, i made this commitment when i ran. i haven't broken it yet, i never will. no one making less than $400,000 will see a penny in federal taxes go up. not a single penny. why did i do 400,000, i doubt anybody in here makes 400,000. i did it to make the case that i'm not going after remotely ordinary folks because they're paying their share.

and we're also going to save billions of dollars on going after criminals who commit fraud. a lot of people are saying to me they don't like the idea i'm prepared to forgive up to $20,000 if you got a pell grant or $10,000 for anybody who has a student loan during the recession. well, guess what, we pay the so called ppp program, we paid significant -- i think it's $900 billion. don't hold me to that number, but it's well over 9 for anybody who had a tough time with their business during the pandemic so they could pay employees. but guess what, you may remember, i was running for office at the time, you all may remember it that i had a big

fight with the former president. and maybe future president. bless me father. anyway, all kidding aside, and here's the deal, what happened was the folks are really going after me for trying to, and by the way, 90% of all debt forgiveness for student loans will go to, under my plan, 90% will go to families making under $75,000 a year. okay. 90%. but here's the deal. the ppp program forgave a lot more, i'm not suggesting it shouldn't, but the big fight you remember going on was, what happened was our good friend the former president decided all the inspectors general, the guys who watch everything, i did a major

program under barack obama. he asked me to deal with the deficit reduction plan that went on, and guess what, i had all of these inspectors checking every decision i made to make sure they were legit. he fired them all. i said you shouldn't do that. well, guess what, now we're finding out there's billions of dollars stolen, so my justice department is now going after them. we're doubling down on prosecuting criminals who stole relief money meant to keep work ers and small businesses afloat during the pandemic. we're going to double the statute of limitations so we have more time to go after these guys, crack down on identity fraud, and criminals who stole billions of dollars from the american people, and the studies show for every dollar we put in to fighting fraud, taxpayers get back $10, ten times as much. and let's get something else straight. my budget cuts wasteful spending

for tax breaks for bill oil companies that made $200 billion of profit last year in the midst of a worldwide recession. $200 billion. and folks, over the last two years, we made a lot of things that -- a lot of progress with republican help as well. sadly, from what i'm hearing, house representatives are suggesting a cooperation may have come to an end. that's why i talk about the maga republicans. this is not your father's republican party as i said before. maga republicans are threatening to default on the national debt. keep talking about the national debt and the trillion dollar debt. it took 200 years to accumulate that debt. it's not recent debt. this is all the debt that's been accumulating interest on the debt for over 200 years. and by the way, president trump, when he was president, in four years, he increased the national debt by 25%. just in four years.

remember that multibillion dollar tax break, did you get any of it? raise your hand if you got any of it. no, i'm serious. so folks, 200 years to accumulate, and was added to that administration, 25% did it by themselves. i met with the new speaker as i said of the house and how we should proceed to settle our differences without jeopardizing the full faith and credit of the united states of america, we have never reneged on that debt. now they're telling me if i don't do whatever they propose, they're going to renege on the debt. every single major economic institution, conservative or liberal says that will cause a massive recession, a massive recession. and put us in the hole for a long, long time. folks, here's what i said, instead of making threats about default which would be catastrophic, let's take that off the table. as i said in the beginning, let's have a conversation about

how to grow the economy, lower costs, and reduce the deficit. i just laid out the bulk of my budge think congress should do the same thing. sit down and see where we agree. we did the math and what we put forward so far, in our estimate, i'm happy to be proven wrong. my plan will reduce the deficit by 3 trillion over ten years, base on what we know so far about their plan, it's going to explode the deficit by more than $3 trillion over the next ten years. if i'm wrong show me. i want to cut taxes. they want to cut taxes for the wealthy and large corporations. take away the power we just gave medicare, negotiate lower drug prices. as i said, we cut the deficit significantly, $160 billion just by doing that. and if they say they want to cut the deficit, but their plans would explode the deficit, how

are they going to make the math work? what are they going to cut? the back and forth of the maga republicans for me, the shouting and unruliness, they seem to say, they're not going to cut social security and medicare. like i said, what about medicaid? what about the affordable care act? what about veterans benefits. what about law enforcement, what about aid to rural communities. what about support for our military? what will they make -- how will they make these numbers add up, here's the deal, if maga republicans in congress try to repeal the affordable care act, social security, medicare, medicaid, i'm not going to let them. folks, we haven't even talked about my budget for nasa security or intelligence and foreign policy in the communities. my budget makes robust investments in our military and

defense. let's see what the maga republicans propose, and let's be clear where i stand. i'll not allow the cuts, the needs of the intelligence community or military to help keep us safe. we're the greatest fighting force in the history of the world, and i'll not let the republicans diminish our capacity to cut the benefits to our servicemen or veterans and their families. so i'm going on too long and i apologize. let me say this one more time. if maga republicans are using the threat of default for the first time in history, they're risking america's health and security. it's dangerous. so let me close with this. my budget is about investing in america and all of america, including places and people and folks who have been forgotten. amid the economic upheaval of the past decades, too many

people are treated like they're invisible. not anymore, i promise you i've seen you. we've got work to do, and we've made a lot of progress in the first two years, and families across the country are starting to breathe a little easier, but we've got further to go. and i can honestly say, i have never been more optimistic about america's future than i am today. i mean that sincerely. as you can tell, i've only been around a few years, like 400. folks, let me conclude by sarks we have to remember who we are -- by saying we have to remember who we are, we're the united states of america. there's nothing beyond our capacity if we do it together. may god bless you all, and may god protect our troops. thank you, thank you, thank you. ♪♪ good to be with you. i'm katy tur. that is president biden in

pennsylvania laying out his budget and probably not a coincidence that he chose such an all important electoral state to show voters where his values lie as he said, and how fiscally responsible he also says he is. here is the big headline the white house is leading with today, $3 trillion in cuts. a plan to save money by raising taxes on the very rich, including a 25% minimum rate on billionaire, a 28% tax on corporations up from 21%. and quadrupling the tax on stock buybacks. along with decreased covid spending, and more room for medicare to negotiate prescription drug prices. >> these guys keep saying, how are you going to cut the deficit? well, guess what, your tax dollars don't have to pay all that exorbitant price for medicare to drug companies, and

it's rational, it's going to save $160 billion in tax dollars. >> those right there are the savings. here is where he wants to spend. more money to the pentagon, more money to policing. more money for additional border patrol agents. more money to ukraine. more money to shore up medicare, and expand obama care. more money for affordable child care, more money for free kindergarten and community college, and more money to lower housing costs. it is a wish list that we can already tell you is dead in the water and a congress with one house controlled by republicans. but for the white house, this is as much of a message to congress as it is to the american public. here is what you voted for. here's why you voted for me. and wink wink, here's why you should vote for me again.

joining me now in philadelphia is nbc news white house correspondent carol lee. also with me is "new york times" white house correspondent jim tankersley. carol, again, this is a messaging tool, message to congress, message to the american public. what can we read in from what the white house has laid out about how the president is going to negotiate or not negotiate with republicans on the debt ceiling? >> reporter: well, katy, the president just talked about that a little bit in his remarks in philadelphia. he said he won't negotiate over the debt limit. he said that is something that needs to be taken off the table, and that he will negotiate with republicans once that is taken off the table. on spending priorities and finalizing a budget, he's not going to do that in conjunction with raising the debt limit, which is expected to need to be done later this summer sometime in august. so the president said that he's ready to sit down and talk with

house speaker kevin mccarthy. they've met once. he said i'll meet with him again. he said he would meet with him tomorrow if he had a budget to put forward. essentially his message here was outlining what's in his budget, which is a laundry list, a wish list of priorities that he has, and says once republicans put their budget forward, they can sit down and talk about where they agree, where day disagree, and how to move forward in terms of funding the government. >> you also spoke with the omb director, shlanda young, what did she tell you about this budget? >> reporter: she talked about it in terms of the president showing what he values. i asked her about how a number of the proposals that he's putting forward, whether it's raising taxes on people who make over $400,000 a year or corporations or proposing things like paid family leave and other provisions that he wasn't able to get past when democrats had control of the house and the senate, why he would put forward these policies when he knows

they're going to go nowhere in the congress where the republicans control the house, and essentially asked her how americans should look at this, and whether it's purely a politics and political document. take a listen to what she said. why do you think that the american people should see this budget as anything other than a political document as the president prepares to run for reelection potentially? >> we think there's absolutely room to have bipartisan legislative accomplishments from pieces he's presenting in this budget. one thing comes to mind is safer communities. it shouldn't be controversial. it should be bipartisan to agree that we should have more cops on the beat in this country. >> reporter: so there you heard one of the areas that the white house is hoping that they can reach a compromise with republicans is on crime prevention. but katy, to your point in terms of the politics of all of this,

you don't need to look any further than the fact sheet that the white house put out summarizing the 182 page budget. there were a number of mentions in there that were not part of the president's fact sheet last year when he released this budget. namely he didn't talk about republicans, which he does talk about in this budget, as well as things like immigration, border security, medicare and social security, all of which are expected to be big issues in the 2024 election. >> let's talk about taxes, jim, there are big tax increases in this budget proposal. taxing the very wealthy among us, and president biden made a note to say that there are billionaires out there that pay 3% in taxes. you don't pay 3% in taxes, i bet. i don't pay 3% in taxes. teachers don't pay 3% in taxes, as the president pointed out. given the fact that the vast majority of the public doesn't pay this in taxes, you would think on its face it would be a popular proposal. any chance at all that this

could be something that the white house can work with republicans on in congress or is it doa? >> absolutely not. the president is under no illusions that the republicans are going to raise taxes whether it's on high earners or the wealthy or corporations. but he knows the politics of this are good. polls show americans think that the tax system is largely unfair. polls show that americans think the high earners should pay more. people disagree over who high earners are, people who make more money than me. and the president has a line at $400,000 a year and up that the white house feels very comfortable with as a political message, and also a basis point for policy. so what he has here are basically $5 trillion in tax proposals, tax increase proposals that aren't going to go anywhere with republicans, but do give him the ability to say to the american public, hey, i want to pay down some of the deficit over the next ten years. i'm going to do it through these

popular ways, and if republicans don't go along, he's making the case they're the ones being unreasonable and not the president. >> is there anything in the budget you see being part of the final budget passed by congress? >> obviously the congress is going to find some agreement on some parts of things that are included in this budget. defense obviously is an area we're watching closely. the president proposed to increase defense spending, there are republicans in congress that want to increase defense spending. the parties have found agreement on that in the past. i wouldn't be surprised if they found agreement on it this time. obviously there are basic funding proposals here, whether it's on research or education that will continue to be funded. but the big parts of the budget, the new things the president has proposed, there is lot a lot of common ground between what he wants and what republicans want. >> let me ask you about something that feels like there might be movement on, and that's the money for families, expanding the child tax credit, getting nor affordable child care out there, potentially

adding paid parental leave. i know this is something usually stripped from the budget first, and expanding the child tax credit was a big point of contention a couple of years ago. there are a growing number of conservatives out there who say because we advocated for overturning roe v. wade and we got it that there are families out there who do need financial support, just by virtue of the fact there are going to be more people having babies and they're acknowledging that it is very difficult to pay for babies and to raise a family. so given that that does seem to be shifting among conservatives -- i talked to mitt romney's old adviser on the show, is there room for negotiation on those points? >> absolutely. any bipartisan cooperation on a big bill is difficult when you have a divided congress and a presidential election getting closer every day. it's true there are discussions happening in the congress right now on things like more support

for parents whether it's on child care or just in a general, child tax credit. is there some sort of way you can take conservative ideas, liberal ideas and find common ground, that probably wouldn't look like what the president is proposing here. there may be a way to cut a deal, and some people i talked to inside the white house are more optimistic on those areas than others for finding compromise. >> interesting. jim tankersley, thank you very much, and carol lee as well. we have an update on the status of mitch mcconnell who was hospitalized after a fall. he suffered a concussion after tripping at a fundraiser at the waldorf. the 81-year-old will remain under observation at the hospital for several days. joining me now is nbc news capitol hill correspondent, julie tsirkin. what are we learning? >> mcconnell is in good spirits. they were briefed during lunch and senator kennedy told me the

one thing mcconnell is missing is the halibut served at lunch by senator murkowski. he's clearly conscious, talking to fellow senators and colleagues. he did not speak to speaker mccarthy. i asked him a few moments ago. a little more setting on the event. this was a reception put on by the senate leadership fund, a political action committee with close ties to mcconnell. the special guest at this event was mcconnell himself. and all republican senators i'm told were invited. though senator scott just told myself and liz that he was not. that is interesting and notable in terms of the tensions of their relationship. when it comes to the minority leader, his office saying he'll remain in the hospital for the next few days for observation, and treatment. he is in good spirits, again, and senators here sending him well wishes and hoping he can return soon as the political dynamics a very close senate, close house.

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of a judge that on air claims were false. why can't they say the same to their viewers on air. that's what dominion is asking in a court filing, wondering why the network won't give an on air retraction. so far there has been no significant coverage of the lawsuit on that network, and fox's own media reporter said on air he's not allowed to talk about it. according to puck media reporters, dylan buyers who we had on the show yesterday, there's been little coverage of the backlash to tucker carlson's january 6th schedule that said it was meek sight seers who love the capitol. >> to be clear, no one here at fox news condones any of the violence that happened on january 6th. >> joining me now is former member of robert mueller's

special counsel investigation into russian interference in the 2016 election, andrew weissmann, also "new york times" chief who's correspondent and msnbc, peter baker. you had a meeting at fox news a few weeks after the election, and the crisis about whether to make calls. what do you know about the turmoil within fox news right now considering all of these revelations that have come to light in the dominion filings, showing the divide between fox news hosts and executives and the handful of journalists left at the network alongside what's been happening since tucker carlson decided to frame the insurrection as a bunch of meek sight seers who love the capitol. >> that's the thing to remember at fox news there are, in fact, people who want to commit journalism. there are fewer today because some got fired or decided to leave because they have been frustrated by what happened there. they're learning a lot of things in these filings that they

didn't know. things they didn't know about what executives were saying and hosts were saying behind the scenes. i think it's been a very aggravating period for those who want fox to main maintain some degree of journalistic independence, at least during the daytime hours, if not during the nighttime opinion shows. it's a fraught moment for the network. as they have said in some of the filings, quotes and depositions, this is sort of a, you know, a telling moment. where are they going to go from here, who they want to be, what they're going to be coming forward. >> would it be damaging in the lawsuit to come out on air, andrew, and say that, no, dominion did not rig the 2020 election, and, yes, the election was fair, and yes, joe biden is the legitimate president. would that be a problem for them in court? >> it actually would help them in court, but that's not the court that they're worried about. they're worried about their viewers. and i think it's incredibly

smart of the dominion lawyers to push this issue of why if this was just a mistake, if this was something that they did not knowingly say at the time, why wouldn't they do what any of you would do and, katkaty, if you m a mistake -- >> we have issued retractions from time to time on air because we're human and get things wrong. >> same thing for the "new york times," any reputable journalist makes mistakes. you make mistakes and deal with it. you say what you did wrong and move on. the reason they're not doing it goes to their motive, and that is exactly dominion's point that the reason they're not doing that is because they are so concerned about viewership, and when they called the election first saying that, you know, arizona went, you know, for, you

know, president-elect biden at the time, they were then led to this enormous backlash of their viewers, and the reason they're not issues a retraction now is for the exact same reason. that's what dominion is going to argue, and it's really, i think, putting them to sort of between a rock and a hard place. they have to choose a lawsuit or loss of viewership. >> let me ask you about all of the redactions we have seen in these filings. there's been pages and pages of redactions. if you've taken a look at the filings, dominion is trying to get the redactions rescinded by a judge, across 900 exhibits, dominion applied substantiative redactions, meaning a redaction other than blacking out a person's phone number or e-mail but not their name to six documents. all other substantiative redactions were made by fox. they note at the bottom nor fox's redactions consistent

between the briefs and the exhibits, demonstrating that fox is not applying objective standards to its redaction decision. they want fox to take away their redactions that aren't names or e-mails or personal information. do you have any idea how the judge might rule on this? >> yeah, so, you know, it's not just dominion, but also there's some media outlets that are also requesting for this stuff to be unredacted. i think that the judge has already indicated that he is not going to tolerate redactions that are made simply because of concern about embarrassment. there has to be something about trade secrets, personal information, social security numbers, e-mail accounts, things like that. so i think that we're going to see additional information and from a strategic point, it's very hard to see why these lawyers think it's a useful thing to have this drip, drip, drip of information coming out

and that, i think is what's going to happen. we're going to have another round of revelations. >> is this going to trial? >> i think it is. i know that dominion has asked for summary judgment. they may get summary judgment on the fact that the statements were false, but there's still a lot of factual issues. the very least, there are issues about the damages and whether there should be punitive damages. but there still may be factual issues about people's intent, what they knew at the time. and so unless fox offers some really huge amount of money, i don't see how this is going to -- not going to trial, and nicolle wallace made the point that dominion is like the plaintiffs in suing alex jones, they're really doing this because they want the information to be made public. they want to clear their names in court. and so it's more about that than

the amount of money, although obviously a judgment could have an enormous deterrent effect on fox in terms of how it handles this in the future. >> an incentive not to settle before it goes to trial. peter one other thing before we get you go. "daily beast" is reporting that fox edited out trump saying he might let russia take over parts of ukraine in an interview he did with sean hannity that aired on monday. first on the radio, and sean hannity aired parts on his show. and the part about trump saying he might let russia take over parts of ukraine was suspiciously not in the show version. what do you make of that? >> it's important to hear what donald trump is saying about russia. andrew weissmann spent a couple of years trying to investigate the former president's ties to russia. that doesn't mean there aren't questions to be answered. as a matter of politics and policy about how donald trump

relates to vladimir putin, and what he told sean hannity, and did not get aired on tv, he would have been happy to have negotiated a deal that allowed russia to take part of ukraine. that's an extraordinary thing, and something voters might want to know and take into consideration when they make a decision next year. fox tv obviously edited that out. we don't know why. we can guess, and it is important information. i think that that's a remarkable statement because basically right now, of course, all of europe, all of the united states is, you know, taking the opposite position, which is that russia should not be rewarded by taking another country's territory simply because, you know, it engages in aggression and intimidation. >> i said suspiciously edited. i should say interestingly they took it out. better word for it. peter baker, andrew weissmann, thank you very much. in the middle of the norfolk southern ceo's testimony to congress today he was told that another one of his trains skipped the tracks. >> the news is reporting that

there's just been a significant derailment in alabama of one of your trains. i certainly hope that all of your team and anybody in the vicinity is safe and well. you may need to look into that. >> norfolk southern says it has a clean up crew on site and reports no injuries or hazardous material leaks. still it marks the railroad's fourth derailment and one deadly collision in the past five weeks. the first one of course was in east palestine on february 3rd. shaw dodged accusations that the derailments are because the company prioritized financial gain over public safety for the last decade. >> our safety stats, senator, continue to improve, and i am committed to making norfolk southern's safety culture the best in the industry. >> you're not having a good month. you may think that you put in enough, okay, but the facts are

saying just the opposite in terms of what is happening. and what i'm hearing from you is just this great confidence that you have in your system. but i'll tell you this, mr. shaw. overconfidence breeds complacency, and complacency breeds disaster, and that disaster has hit east palestine and it's hitting community and community across this country. >> joining me now is nbc news capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles. you heard the senator right there saying you might prioritize safety but your track record's showing that you're not. >> reporter: yeah, and that was one of the big things you heard senators try and pin allen shaw down on today during his lengthy hearing that he frankly didn't have specific answers for. in many respects, they wanted to know specifics behind why many of these disaster occurred, and what he could do to prevent them in the future.

he often talked in the kind of technical language of the railroad industry to try and explain away some of these problems, and a lot of the senators didn't really find that useful in their questioning of him. take a listen to this exchange. >> there are a number of different areas in which we are investing in safety. i'm very confident in the ntsb process, which is focused on, right now, a wheel bearing that failed and noted that the norfolk southern crew and the hot box detector, and the track were all operating as appropriate. i'm not waiting for the full response, and you're seeing action right now. >> i appreciate that. i think it's probably hard for families and businesses in east palestine to hear this, though, when if that had been done in response to number 18 in the

derailments or number 15 or number 4 or any of those, we wouldn't have had number 20, which is what's happening to the community. >> reporter: and one of the general kind of take aways that you could hear from the senators both republican and democrat today was that this isn't just about east palestine. this is about a much bigger problem, one that has largely gone unnoticed because there hasn't been a huge chemical or environmental disaster like the one we saw in ohio. but as the senators rightly pointed out today, could be a matter of time before another one happens, because of the frequency of the derailments. it's clear they want changes as soon as possible. >> the industry standard is two people running trains. there's arguments to get it down to one. that's what the rail companies wanted. the unions argue that's not enough. safety is at risk, and they don't get nearly enough time off to recover between these

journeys. ryan nobles, thank you very much. and joining me now is east palestine resident and community organizers with river valley organizing, jamie coza, she attended today's hearing as well as meetings at the white house. thank you very much for being here. what's your reaction to the ceo and what he said today on the hill? >> i think he's sending the same message he sent to east palestine, which is no message. he's very vague, what's going to make things right. what's making things right? i want concrete answers and transparency, and we're just not getting that. >> jami, allen shaw said the company has given quite a lot of money as a down payment to those affected by the derailment, 21 million in support, over 4,000 families, and a $1 million fund available to community leaders who identify where donations can do the most good.

do you feel like that money is a down payment? is it a step in the right direction? are you confident that the community and everybody there will get what they need to do whatever they need to do in the face of this surrounding and the chemicals that might still be lingering? >> i'm not confident. i know he says how much money is given to the community members, but what he's not telling you is when we go to the assistance center, we have to fight for that money. there's no equal distribution of it. it's about who raises their voice the loudest. it's only within a certain area. this pollution did not stop at the 1 mile radius. it didn't stop in east palestine. you know, negley is right over the hill where the water runs straight down the creek. they are a township. they have a lot of wells, they're in just a much danger as people in the one mile zone. yet the relief is they're given

is to a limited amount of people, not everyone who has been affected. >> do you trust the testing done by the government? do you think it's as safe as the government says it is? >> absolutely not. i'm not a scientist, but i can tell you right now that the air we're breathing and the water in the creeks and the soil are not safe. i am watching all of my family members get sick. we weren't a community that started out sick, and now we're getting better. we were a community that was told that everything was safe. we felt fine. we move back into the community. and now we're just getting sick, and people are getting sicker. if we don't do something, it's going to end up in death. >> you know, the norfolk southern ceo was asked whether he would live there, whether he thought it was safe enough to live there. he said yes. you've got a daughter, she's 3. you said you got they are after struggling for years with infertility. >> right. >> do you feel it's safe for you and, as you call her, your

miracle baby, to stay there? >> absolutely not. it's not safe. that's why we haven't been there. again, you know, when you're watching, i have 47 immediate family members that live within that 1 mile zone, so when you're watching everyone get sick, you know it's not healthy. it's not what you think. you know that it's not healthy to be in that community right now. >> jami cozza, thank you so much for being with us and taking the time during the trip in washington. i hope you get the help you need and your family does remain as safe as possible in the coming weeks and months. >> thank you. coming up, does china want to go to war? what the intelligence community told lawmakers today. congressman jim himes joins me in a moment. congressman jim himes joins me in a moment. eds braces. maybe try switching your car insurance to progressive. you could save hundreds. i don't know, dad. ♪♪

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we have breaking news about a shooting in tel aviv but first defense secretary lloyd austin was in israel meeting with prime minister benjamin netanyahu at the airport. the two men couldn't meet anywhere else because of mass protests against netanyahu's proposal to limit the power of the judiciary there. thousands of protesters in and around tel aviv blocked roads and highways forcing the prime minister to be air lifted to ben guron to see america's defense minister. joining me now is raf sanchez. i want to get to the protest.

first, tell us about the shooting. three people wounded, which if you've been to tel aviv is a very busy area with shops and restaurants. it's popular. >> reporter: that's exactly right, katy. it's the very heart of tel aviv. a lot of bars and restaurants and cafes. it had been a chaotic day with mass protests, police say in the last couple of hours, a young palestinian man opening fire on israeli civilians, three of them wounded, one of them in critical condition. the shooter was killed by police officers. we don't know exactly his motivation, but we are seeing hamas, the militant group that controls gaza praising the attack. we know that earlier this morning in the occupied west bank israeli forces killed three militants from the islamic jihad movement. it has been a very bloody day already so far, somewhat ironic,

given that defense secretary austin had appealed for calm during his visit. >> secretary austin got there, and normally they're not doing meetings at the airport. what happened to force it to be at ben gurion, these meetings do not normally happen at the airport. israeli protesters out in the tens of thousands, blocking major highways. there was no way even for an official as senior as defense secretary austin to get through, and those protesters were out in protest against this plan by israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu to weaken israel's supreme court. i want you to take a listen to something that secretary austin said earlier about the importance of an independent judiciary in a democratic country. take a listen. >> as president biden has said, the genius of american democracy

and israeli democracy is that they are both built on strong institutions. on checks and balances, and on an independent judiciary. >> reporter: now, katy, the defense secretary not openly criticizing netanyahu there, but going out of his way to signal that the u.s. shares at least some of the concerns of israeli protesters moving to undermine the supreme court would weaken overall democracy. under this plan, israel's parliament could vote by a simple majority to simply ignore rulings by the supreme court. now, netanyahu would tell you this is a necessary reform to curb activist judges, but the people we spoke to on the streets today are genuinely very afraid about their country's democratic future to the point that they were prepared to block highways, and they were prepared to blockade the airport to show their strength of feeling.

>> politics in israel could be very divisive. benjamin netanyahu won back, but barely. and had to build quite a coalition to do so. thank you very much. the top five intelligence officials in this country were back on capitol hill today, this time testifying in front of house intel on worldwide threats. once again, china was top of that list. >> if tensions continue to be exacerbated, leading to a point where there is conflict, what that would look like for the global economy, for the chinese economy, and most importantly, help me understand why a chinese leader would risk the golden goose, essentially? >> it is not our assessment that china wants to go to war. obviously it depends on what the conflict looks like, but to your point again, i think it's absolutely right that this is -- any conflict is likely to have enormous economic complications.

>> democratic congressman jim himes of connecticut on the house intel committee, she says it's not likely that china wants to go to war, but that doesn't mean that they're not going to. can you explain more of her answer? >> sure. and all indications are that the director is right. we don't have any reason to believe that the chinese leadership or xi wants war. the problem, of course, is that xi, the chinese leader really really wants reunification with taiwan. the question is which of those two desires wins out in the end. that's why i was asking the question i was asking. either through deliberate action on the part of chinese, and often time war starts because of misunderstandings and mistakes, where is the world engaged in the taiwan strait, the economic effects, set aside many people that would be killed and the military hardware that would be lost but the economic effects would be devastating to china and quite frankly, to the rest of the world. >> let's talk about tiktok.

there was an interesting response from avril haynes on tiktok. i want to listen to it. >> tiktok and bytedance engage in heeding, specific videos achieve a certain number of views. can you rule out that tiktok has heeded content at the direction of the ccp? >> i don't think we could rule that out. >> one-third of americans get their news from tiktok every single day. 1/6 of american youth say they're constantly on tiktok. that's a loaded gun, congressman. >> obviously that was not avril haynes, but let's get to the point of the answer there. tiktok, if you look at the algorithm in china it's much different than the algorithm here. when it's focused on young people in china, it's giving them math and other educational lessons, if you will, on tiktok. here it's solely for entertainment, and i wonder, does it concern you, the way in which tiktok, i know it's so

popular among, i'm sure, viewers as well, but the way in which it's captured the attention of the american public, especially our youth to the point where when you ask a kid what they want to be when they grow up, they'll say they want to be a social media star, and what that might mean for our future, our future competitiveness with china beyond entertainment. >> yeah, well there's a large issue here, and there's a specific tiktok issue. the large issue, and this actually came out in the global threats assessment today. social media generally because it is so easily manipulated for propaganda purposes, we saw this on january 6th here in our own country, it has changed the dynamic in some very scary ways. we believe it's contributing to the decline of democracy around the world. tiktok is a special case. there are no chinese companies that are not subject to the requests and demands of the chinese communist party, and so, yeah, you know, people like me or military officers or anybody who works in national security

should very simply not have tiktok near their devices. the question whether it should be prohibited to all american people, that's a much bigger question where you need to start thinking about, and people need to start thinking about, how do they feel about the federal government telling them which media platforms they can and cannot participate on. that's a big step for the federal government, even as we, and i totally acknowledge that nobody involved in, you know, sensitive areas should be anywhere close to tiktok. >> i think it's a question for all of us, how do you want your attention manipulated? be it by tiktok or any social media company. any corporation, how do you want your brain to be coopted and whether you think it's a good idea. >> i'm a idea. >> jim himes -- >> and i'm a parent. we have a special role to play when that social media could be driven by antagonists of the united states. >> absolutely. i don't want to get into

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