>> that is all the time i have for today. i am alicia menendez i'll see back tomorrow at 6 pm eastern for more america voices but now for the first time ever, i get to hand it over to m friend, julián castro julián, it's so great to se you in that seat >> good to see you, my friend. i know, i am not usually in fo you. i am so happy to see you thanks a lot

>> good evening and welcome to ayman. i am julián castro, in for ayman mohyeldin. breaking tonight, new word from the manhattan distric attorney, alvin bragg. why his focus into donald trum -- plus, the dominion votin system accuses fox o withholding information and it defamation lawsuit and fighting eight, with attacks on the trans community on the rise, a speak wit rupaul's drag race alum eureka o'hara, about the fight ahead. let's get started. ♪ ♪ ♪ tonight, we begin with breakin news it's all hands on deck this weekend, donald trump i huddling with a team of lawyer damar legault. this comes as nbc news learned that the ex president has been invited to testify before a ne york grand jury next week. it's part of the manhattan district attorney's years long investigation into hush plenty payments made for adult film star during trump's 2016 presidential run

so, why does the ds offer have trump so spooked the invitation is why they received the a warning of criminal charges may b imminent had district attorney alvi bragg joined reverend sharpton a short time ago, and he appears to be keeping his card close to his vest. >> we have an active investigation. many observed last year that the trial of the trump organization, in some ways, would say is the same team tha is working with the same typ of professionalism and rigor the same type of team on our active investigation i am concerned from saying anything more than that becaus i don't prejudice an investigation. >> a lawyer for trump told nbc news that they have, quote, no plans to meet in bragg's office

no matter what the ex presiden decides to do next, it appears that we will be approachin uncharted political waters could donald trump make histor yet again and become the first former american president to b indicted joining me now to break all of this down, molly jong-fast host of the fast politic podcast and specia correspondent for vanity fai and cynthia alksne, former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analysts thank you both for joining me. cynthia, i want to start wit you, what do you make of bragg 's invitation to donald trum to come and testify? there's a signal to you that charges are on the horizon >> yes, it definitely does i don't think trump will g testify. he does not even provide emails, he will certainly not go to grand jury and start talking i do not expect him to come. i think brad will go o television i don't think that is proper i think you should stay in his office and work, but it does

seem to me that and indictment there is imminent. there is a confluence of all these events is overwhelming right now. we have an indictment that may be coming out of new york. we have an indictment in fulto county that looks like it is coming we have to each eco case to be tried in april, and we have th dominion suit which has a lo to do with trump and lies. it's an amazing legal avalanch on the shoulders of trump righ this minute. >> molly, we heard a familia refrain from donald trump, thi time on truth social, claiming he did nothing wrong and the night he ever had an affai with stormy daniels. as i mentioned, he's now calle his lawyers down to florida to talk about possible lega strategies do you think the ex presiden is scared of where this coul be heading >> you know, i think it woul be reasonable to be scared o this because it's a lot of

stuff. it's a bunch of different lega cases are coming to soon, and think there are a lot of legal implications that we have no even talked about what's happening with the documents case at the doj. i do think that there is a lot he has a lot of legal exposure and civil exposure which could -- but i don't think that it will hurt him i honestly think that his base is so dug into i don't think i will matter. he will say that this is the dna from new york, which is blue state, and these people this is political, and it ha nothing to do what wha happened remember, he has done this stormy daniels dance before. he has every different defense and he will say it never happened you will remember the most recent stuff that he is th nine now i don't think it necessarily

matters. i think his base is so dug in, that they will go along with anything >> cynthia, even if trump is indicted, convicting him o sending him to prison will b challenging for the a bragg. explain to us why this case is rather unique? >> well, first i would say i that probably to me, the mos important aspect of the case would be jury selection, because as molly says, as much about trump and even about - is baked in. people have their opinions and won't change picking a jury will be critical the case has problems. michael cohen, who is the lead witness, is a liar he's a convicted liar. his book is titled revenge if you can't cross examine michael cohen on trump, yo don't belong in this business. that's a problem there are legal issues the case, you could say is fundamentally a misdemeanor,

which could be increased to felony, depending on the way that is planned or properl played that is also a legal challenge it's a difficult position, and that is why i think a lot of legal observers, frankly, woul prefer the gravel meant of trump's this loyalty to th country by trying to overtur the election and the jack smit case and then using th department of justice. that is really what he did tha is a terrible, right that is the thing. he tried to overturn our constitution in a violent way, and we are fit the battlin around with some booker who go paid that is not what makes him s dangerous to the country so, while i think this case is part of the avalanche, to me because it has problems, i car deeply about what jack smith i doing much more and what i

happening in georgia much more than this case >> you are right this is a former president tha has a potential indictment coming in from different place and different states, but molly, i want to go back to you t speak about michael cohen, who is trump's former fixer an went to prison for his role in this hush money scandal. this is what he had to say about the possibility of trump testifying >> knowing donald as well as i do, understand that he does no tell the truth it's one thing to turn aroun and lie on truth social. it's another take a turn aroun and lie before a grand jury, which i don't suspect that h will be coming >> while it appears unlikely that trump will face the grand jury, and pc news has no learned that cohen himself wil testify in front of a panel on monday we all know that cohen is

complicated figure does his involvement help or hurt da bragg? >> you know, i think what is interesting about e -- [inaudible >> i think that we're having audio issues with molly. cynthia, let me ask you, doe this at all impact the other criminal investigations into donald trump, some of what you mentioned? >> i think all of the case interact with each other not only the criminal cases bu the civil cases. let's say that you are a juror in the e g carroll case. and you've been chosen your inundated with messages right now about trump and this woman and lying and paying off people that impacts you it may impact the dominion

vote everything is interrelated wit trump, but much of it, as my sense is baked in, so that i why i want to highlight th jury selection, because people make a decision -- have made their mind up abou trump. you don't know anybody who i like, i don't know, i had no decided yet. either you hate the guy or you love the guy that is just where we are as a country, so jury selection wil be really important and all th messages that are coming in, continue to reinforce what you think about trump. >> molly, your back. it was just last week that trump said that he would not jump out of the 2024 race, i he was indicted. i want to remind our viewers what trump had to say abou hillary clinton back in 2016 >> if she were to win this

election, it would create an unprecedented constitution crisis, and in that situation, we could very well have sitting president under felony indictment and ultimately in criminal trial >> molly, is trump set t create that unprecedente constitutional crisis he warne of >> yeah, absolutely. i think it's very likely tha you could see him do that or you could see him run if indicted i think it's likely that h will run even if he does not get the domination we have never seen trump eve take a step back and be like oh, maybe i should not do this i think there is a likelihoo that people will run i indicted i think he will run if there i a trial. he will run if there is nomination if i were a republican, i'd be really worried about him running as a third party candidate. remember, he has refused t

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in the dominion defamation lawsuit against fox. dominion voting systems and trail of media outlets are now accusing fox of abusing th redaction process and blocking out more information tha warranted in recent cour filings. this new filing from dominio suggest that those redaction may be concealing importan evidence in the case documents from that suit hav already expose the inner workings of foxes programming. and the political pressure campaign that went on behind the scenes according to the associate press, court records show ho fox, quote, became activel involved in politics instead o

simply reporting or offering opinions about it. just take a look at this example from may 2018. that is when then presiden trump and senate majorit leader, mitch mcconnell, calle it fox chairman, ruper murdoch's, to get the networks help insulting the republica senate primary in west virginia murdaugh wrote, this no, to to executives, quote, both trum and mcconnell are appealing fo help to be unelectable forme owner who served time. anything during day helpful, but shawn and laura dumping on him hard might save the day. that candidate, don blankenship, ended up losing the primary. that same filing also expose another instance of murdaugh's meddling, this time in 2020, after fox business anchor, lou dobbs, criticize republica senator lindsey graham murdaugh message the chief executive officer of the network, asking if they coul pump up the incumbent senator, facing, as you may remember, a

extremely well funded challeng from democrat, jaime harrison. murdaugh wrote, quote, could sean say something supportive? we cannot lose the senate, i at all possible. molly and cynthia are back wit me now just take a listen to that look at that cynthia, first, i want to ge your reaction to this cour fight over redactions. foxes these redactions are meant to steal trade secrets such as the journalistic processes. with that a good enough excuse >> well, it could be, if i turns out to be true, you know as you guys said, we're fixing to find out, right the judge is gonna rule, i think, by the 21st of march, w are gonna know honestly, i don't trust thes guys as far as i can throw them, and i'm not gonna be surprised if they are not hiding things, although, it is hard to believe, after you read all of th revelations that have come out

in the last three weeks that there is anything that is an words, how can anything be any worse? this case is a disaster for fox. and i am convinced they're going to lose it and the deserve to lose it >> molly, what do you make o murdaugh's personal meddling here how does this politicking by fox's leader pose a danger t our democratic process >> well, let me first say that hell hath no fury like a votin machine company scorned, right they are just gonna ride thi thing to the end good for them, their brand has been completely ruined by fox, right? they did nothing wrong i do think that this is sort o why you have, you know, ther is a very high bar for defamation, but you can really see they were actually defamed i think a lot of us suspecte this is what was happening again, you know, anyone who ha read about roger ills know

that this network is very tigh with the republican party an always has been i still thin there's a certain level of crave in this that even i wa surprised by, like them goin after certain candidates trying to boost up lindsey graham the details of it, of which ar very damning the question is, well th people in the fox news bubbl ever see it? i'm not convinced that the will >> yeah, you know, i wasn' about fox's tagline it built itself up on, fair and balanced which always seem to be done with a wink. folks expected that they wer in cahoots with the republican party, but never had this kind of evidence before cynthia, murdaugh was also questioned over hi communication with jared kushner, told dominion's lawyers that his correspondent with kushner over trump' debate performance was, quote, advice from a friend and tha it, quote, was and advice from fox corporation or in my capacity at fox. does that defense hold anyway?

>> no. i mean, you know, there even some people who say ther should be a federal election commission violation i have to say, i find th federal election commission to be weak. when was the last time they di anything really? half the time they can even ge a -- so, i don't think, i think wha will come of that, it will jus be part of this overal testimony. what's interesting, moll brings it, up will the fox viewer ever really see anything. i think, i'm hopeful that this is what happened to th damages. first of all, there's no enough zeroes, number one, but number two, the judge ca fashion other remedies that he deems to be appropriate. i would suggest people think about the tobacco settlement in the tobacco settlement, one of the things that was require was this constant reportin that in fact, tobacco is dangerous, in fact, tobacco is dangerous for babies, it's dangerous for pregnant women

it's dangerous, dangerous, dangerous, they had to publish those ads. and i would hope that as par of the damages in this case, when it's all said and done, part of that is on the fox new channel and other channels they are going to have to admi that this was just a big lie they knew it was a big lie and that they were willing and craven enough to just give people what they wanted to hear, even though they knew it was a remotely connected to th truth. >> you're right, it will b fascinating to see if dominion prevails, what those damages are, and what the remedy is. molly, let's move on to tucker carlson, another set of cour filings shows up on january 4th, 2021, carlson texted an unknow colleague, quote, we're very very close to being able t ignore trump most nights i truly cannot wait. went on to write of trump, quote, i passionately, i canno handle much more of this

clearly that was a far cry fro what we heard on air fro tucker carlson how do you think the average fox viewer will react to the text >> well, i think there's alway been a lot of speculation of whether or not tucker carlso is craven or, you know, does h believe what he is selling i think a lot of us thought he didn't so, this is a pretty good proo that he doesn't actually believe what he selling. i mean, again, look, trump's their guy, and even though the sort of republican elites ar trying to switch desantis, these people love trump. i do think that if you'r someone you're able to pierc the media bubble and get the to see that tucker carlson doesn't love trump, they'r gonna be kind of surprised you know, again, these peopl don't necessarily believe what they read, right they don't believe what they read in the media. a lot of them don't believe th

news they don't like fox has taught them that the don't have to believe the news they don't like. so, i could say that is a real problem. >> cynthia, every week we lear more and more about this defamation case. as we know, defamation isn't hoarsely hard to prove it court of law but as more information come out, do you think dominion wil actually succeed here? >> yes, i do i think it's shocking how much has come out and if there is more that' hidden and it comes out on the 21st, that will add to it. even if nothing else comes out i think dominion well, and i think that they will, ther will be, there are not enoug zeroes, as i said, on this case i believe they will suffocat the fox news channel, news, bu the fox channel. >> cynthia, thank you. molly, i know you're gonna stick around i will be talking to you later

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being punished for merel existing in public and here is the thing, this is not just a tennessee problem lawmakers and more than a doze other states, including my hom state of texas, west virginia, and nebraska, have propose measures that would severely restrict drag. joining me now is eureka o'hara, she is the tennessee native, a drag performer, and former contestant on rupaul's dra race she is also a trans activist and the producer and star of hbo's where here eureka, thank you for joinin me what is this new tennessee law doing to the drag and lgbt community there? >> i think honestly what i does, it instills fear and as, which society is continued t do to the lgbtq community. it's also hindering us fro being successful and allowin people to experience our art precious equality, preciou

representation drag queens hav always been at the front and the forefront of queer activism, even at riots, it's known that a drag queen through the first stone. >> how dangerous does this law make it for drag performers an trans people to just exist there in tennessee >> i really appreciate tha question because what it does, it actually supports peopl that are discriminatory an have a bigot mindset, in a way they feel validated. someone with a position of power, such as someone we vote into office, basically sexualizing our existence an also turning it down t notoriety, takes away a lot of hard work that a lot of us put into create equality and lov and to create families for ourselves. a lot of times, where people

don't have that to exist o coexist or even learn how to become - >> i know, based on your lif experience, and your activis that you have a unique perspective on this. you're originally from eastern tennessee. do you feel safe in your hom state these days >> no, i mean, i never fel truly safe as soon as i was able to run into california, i did i actually do transitioned early in my twenties out o fear, out of trauma, out o abuse that i received from tha social moral code in society until recently, i actually didn't come out fully as trend because i didn't believe that would be safe or be able t have success in my life. luckily it drags what gave m the confidence we able to do that that's why i sit here and speak for all of my communit when i say that our intentio is never to harm children, our

intention is to speak to those little queer children like w where we were at that age that need representation an visibility they need to see people like them, or else they're gonna be lost, and that's gonna pus them down a really dark path that is what we should b afraid of more than drag queen appearing in public. >> we know that tennessee is just one of many states righ now trying to bend dru performance and trans health care as well in fact, according to trevor projects national survey, 93 of trans and non-binary youths say they're worried about bein denied access to gende affirming medical care through the state or local laws. how concerned should we will b about this >> i mean, honestly, it no only is taking way parenta rights to raise their children and to bring diversity int their homes and their existence, but also, it's taking with the

opportunity for someone at a young age to truly discover wh they are i can tell you will, from very very, honestly, the first thoughts of who i was as a person, i always felt an different from the peopl around me. i never felt like i ha belonged it was there because it wa queer or gay or, quote unquote -- like i was called. it is because of my gender, don't like the boy they were calling me so, i know from personal experience that it can be very traumatizing to that existence it can be harmful to the healt of these children. you know, they're also demanding four people have already been on, these childre to be off of that hrt they'v been on and a very aggressiv pattern. which is not healthy either. this is also a medical issue i just don't understand how we can take away the rights o people being able to provide medical and making parenta decisions for their ow children, as well as along those parental decisions a well it's really scary and harmfu

to those children and othe queer kids like them or anyone that wants to be indifferent for moral code and society >> on thursday, you announce what you've officially bee able to legally change you name and gender marker first of all, congratulations! >> thank you so much >> yeah, talk to me, eureka, about that moment, and what it means for you, especially as the lgbtq community faces a ta from all sides >> it was extremely exciting you know, i was overwhelme with happy tears, because never thought 1 million years would oversee my living societ acknowledged me for who really am. it was powerful. and a game in the fire i needed i still fear, because i' tennessee there are marker changes on documents i need to be able to - even was accepted with the

change, their laws still i place that they are going to restrict away from having thos documents and continue livin successfully i'm hoping i can fight that, tennis is one of many states that still has those restrictions on birt certificates, social securit alterations, things like that. someone gets married, so on an so forth, there is no issues i think there is, there's just an underlying negativity aroun being trans or gende nonconforming, and a type of gender expression that's not t a social norm of the binary. and it's just harmful to the progression of our society and our youth, especially, at th diversity level that our youth is that today. they are discovering who the are so early in life >> absolutely. eureka o'hara, thank you for joining me next, the fight fo reproductive rights took a new turn in my home state of texas this week. , trust safelite.

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care in these dire situations. so much so, in fact, all fiv women who are part of this lawsuit had to leave the state or wait until they wer seriously ill in order to be treated. that included plaintive, anna, who was forced to fly from texas to colorado to receive a abortion after her water broke after just 19 weeks in >> people who think overturnin roe will not affect them either because they can ge pregnant or never choose a abortion need to know what i going on because of these laws believe me, you never know whe you are someone you love wil need one the state of texas says they want to preserve life by banning safe, legal abortions. i have never felt my lif mattered less than it di during the situation >> joining me now is docto jamilah, ob/gyn and presiden ceo of physicians fo reproductive health. molly is also back with us

thank you both for joining me. doctor, let's start with you now, these five women describe painful and dramatic experiences because they wer not able to receive the care they needed as a physician talk to us about the serious medical consequences peopl face in these positions. >> absolutely, thank you s much for having me, let me begin by saying clearly that this is not medicine, this i not care, this is not the righ way to take care of people it's not what i trained for 15 years in medical schoo residency, fellowship to do. when we think about what i means to access reproductive health care in this country an what folks have the capacity for pregnancy in texas are facing we know that it is just the ti of the iceberg, and we wil continue to see these case spread out around the countr

as the attacks on our health our rights, our agency, and ou autonomy, continue it is dangerous. it is not just inconvenient to have to travel for many people, traveling i dangerous. the inability to access care and our community is unsafe. >> molly, in another lawsuit out of texas, a man is suing three women under the state' wrongful death statute for allegedly helping his now ex wife obtain abortion pills what do you make of this lawsuit? >> well, this is what they had originally wanted with - this idea that you could the go after women who were just trying to deal with iran medical situations you could then do the people who had helped her this is really appalling i do think it's important to realize a lot of these statute were not written ever to be an active, right? they were just written in this very vague way and when they got past, thes

people were not so intereste in making sure that women' lives are protected. and if you look back at roe v. wade, at the original 1973 decision, you can see wa decided so broadly because the doctors were truly afraid to treat women. you have these women who are not able to get treatment. again, treatment can mean al sorts of things. i mean, this ban really does target pregnant women, right because if you have miscarriage or you nee treatment, you cannot get it i these states with abortion bans. >> doctor perritt, we're still waiting for a court decision out of texas that could ban th abortion pill. it was approved by the fda ove 20 years ago how could that, how would that decision impact medica abortions? >> that decision is gonn impact reproductive health car across the board medication abortion or otherwise. we use mifepristone and

number of different capacities and obstetrics and got a logical care, certainl abortion care, also in the management of miscarriage. and taking care of folks wit experience fatal loss. the reversal of the approval o mifepristone is gonna have devastating effects that are ability to care for ou communities. we have a long history o research knowing tha mifepristone is safe, it i effective, this has never been about safety or efficacy of th medication this is about control and th desire to eliminate access t abortion we have seen the way this play out one abortion is restricted it has long breachin consequences for our health, for our families, and fo futures. >> molly, we know that pharmacies have also been point of debate. california governor, gavin newsom, announced that the state will not renew its contract with walgreens afte walgreens announced they would

not dispense the borshchiv pills. this comes after a group o republican attorney generals threatened lawsuits agains pharmacies could we see more state leader follow california's lead o this >> yeah, i think you'r absolutely going to see that look, these pharmacies are refusing to follow the law right? they were supposed to sell this, they don't want to sell it because they're afraid o republican lawsuits or because they just don't want to, you know, help women and i think that gavin newso is totally right look, we're consumers, right we don't have to patronize businesses that don't respec our values that is capitalism i mean, conservatives ar always so mad about that, bu that is one of the ideas o capitalism so, why should pharmacies that refused to give a lega medicine to women on their own weird religious grounds be, wh should a state subscribe t that that is crazy. i think he's absolute doing th right thing. remember, california is th largest economy.

there are huge state with a lo of, you know, a lot of money and they should vote with thei wallet >> indeed, it'll be fascinatin to watch what impact they ma have on what not only walgreen but other pharmacies, whethe it's cvs, -- rite aid, others to. doctor perritt, new york governor, kathy hochul, and ne york attorney general, letitia james, sent a letter t pharmacy ceos asking for their commitment to make abortio pills available in store and b mail order your thoughts on just ho crucial pharmaceutical companies are right now fo abortion access? >> it is the point of entry fo many of the communities we car for. you know, we'll understand the intention behind governo newsom's action and certainl support it for lots of reasons i think it's also important to understand that when w eliminate access and pharmacies, whether it's because of decision that a state like california has made or decisio

that the individual pharmacies made not to serve ou communities, the folks tha suffer are not people who ca just travel to different neighborhoods and pick up thei medication it is a really big deal not to carry medications, and not t have access in your ow neighborhood we know the folks that are mor likely to be impacted by these restrictions, whether the fd ruling or the lawsuits and texas, there are people who ar already marginalized from care so, if we do not hav pharmacies in our communit that are providing the sam care that folks get anothe neighborhoods, other states, another zip codes. and our carrot continues, ou health and well-being continue to suffer. we're making decisions about access, we have to be clea about who's gonna be mos directly impacted. >> doctor jamila perritt and molly jong-fast, thank you for joining me tonight coming up, how does that ban collapse in just 48 hours?

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start-ups and one of the country's top 20 banks, with more than 200 billion dollar and assets after a panic 40 hours, it was shut down and the bigges banking failure since the 2008 financial crisis, and th second largest in u.s. history joining me now to explain al of this is ben white, chie economic correspondent for politico, and to see nbc contributor. thank you for joining us so, this was a rapid downwar spiral that certainly has a lo of people thinking back on 2008 tell us what happened in those 48 hours >> yeah, so good to be with you, thank you for having me. it was a banker, a old-fashioned bank run and which wealthy depositors are as we mentioned, both valley start up executives or - executives, folks have a lot o assets in the bank, over 250 000, the limit on fdic

insurance. the bank itself ha unfortunately funded itself, particularly a lot of deposits and bought a long dated assets i don't get too complicated fo viewers in the weeds of this they bought bonds, a lot o them the fed started raisin interest rates, caused the value of their bonds to go down, people want to buy bonds wit higher rates all of a sudden, people go wind of that, thought thei money was in danger, and started to take it out once that started, rumor started flying on twitter an elsewhere, this is very high tech crowd, they all rushed to get money out. by that point, the bank run wa unstoppable, and they had to step in, take it over, figur out what to do next. the problem really lies in the nature of the assets on svb' -- i don't know why they had al these long dated bonds, before the fed was gonna rais interest rates they had to raise capital, hol him at a big loss, everyon

panicked, took their cash out. that was the end of it for them >> another part of thi equation is who the customer of this particular bank were it didn't look like any bank silicon valley bank had a high number of start-up clients >> yeah. >> our markets going to view silicon valley bank as jus representative of silico valley overall what do you see as the wider impact here? >> yeah, yeah, well, hopefully the wider impact is limited by the fact that it has now bee taken over my assessment is probably that in the receivership process, the bank will buy the assets and debts, and everyone will b made whole i think it doesn't look grea for silicon valley banking i general, i don't think it call into question some of the more you know, solid start-ups, they'll still get money, they'll still get ange investors. it may bring in a question, as crypto did, the crashing crypto,

whether there's way too much ash floating around two grea companies and great assets i think we need that reckoning anyway we've had some of it in th crypto space we'll see more of it i don't think it really hi silicon valley that hard overall. the banking industry, frankly, this has been a fairly orderly process now. the ftc has now taken over people under 250,000 get their money back my guess is over that amount they'll eventually get their money back, federal below. you know, right now, it is that there should've been mor regulatory oversight but it is not catastrophic o systemic at this point >> 30 seconds that i have left investors like mark cuban ar now calling on the federal reserve to step in and buy svb's debt is that realistic? >> not, it's not realistic o really a good idea at this point. that might have been useful as they were trying to survive, i

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