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hints at the run just ahead, former president trump, who has already announced that he will be in the state tomorrow meanwhile, another possibl candidate, former vice president mike pence has mad one of his strongest criticism yet of trump's actions o january 6th. at a dinner last night, he admitted what most of us hav known all along, that th presidents reckless word endangered his family an everybody on capitol hill that day. we are going to be breakin down all of this tonight o politicsnation plus, a new report from th justice department finds a pattern of aggressive policing against the black community of louisville, kentucky three years after the police
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shooting of breonna taylor one state over in tennessee, the doj is prepping an investigation on the memphis police department, two month after the fatal police beating of tyre nichols. civil rights attorney ben crump, representing the families of both victims, joining us i just a bit for his reaction, and later, republican lawmaker in mississippi are poised for hostile takeover of the cour system in the states overwhelmingly black capital o jackson. jackson mayer is with us tonight, in his take on what state republicans are doing in mississippi, and the ongoing border crisis in his city, you don't want to miss it. but first, joining us now, congresswoman sheila jackson lee, democrat of texas, member of the house judiciary,
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budget, and homeland securit committees congresswoman, thank you for joining us i want to start off with you reaction to former vic president mike pence's comments, at last night's dinner i washington the sharpest criticism o donald trump for his role in january 6th, in which his life was threatened across -- we can show you the comments because they came at an of camera dinner, and he ha refused to testify under oat before the investigative vot bodies they could actually hol trump accountable. what do you make of last night's comments, congresswoman? >> i think the vice presiden has finally recognized, an reverend, thank you for having me, that he is - it's gotten him nothing, and got him nothing but near death
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he attempted, in the aftermath of january 6th, close to the former president, not stepping on any toes. obviously, this got him nothing. the vice president was maligne by president trump, and i thin that what he was trying to d now is to find himself as truth teller, although o course he has not answered subpoenas, and we don't know what he will do at the department of justice. i think that's where he is he's attempting now for th american people, because if he wants to win the presidency, h will have to get the confidenc of the american people it was incredulous that he was saying nothing about the direc role that president trump ha in january 6th, in a bay ver clear, since i was on my stomach in the united states chambers of the hous representatives, with guns being pulled, and screamin mobs on the other side of th house chamber door, it was a
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mob takeover it was violent, and now th vice president is trying t give the people of the unite states an opportunity to say h is not presidential, he want to tell us the truth, and we can have confidence in him i don't know if it will work but that's what you're seein through the time of th campaign, if he chooses to announce the presidency. >> congresswoman, regulators have spent the weekend debatin how to handle the second largest bank failure in u.s. history. the problems that led to the collapse of silicon valley ban complications. what governor ron desantis had to say about it on fox today take a listen. >> it appears to me, this bank they are so concerned with dei politics, and all kinds of stuff, and i think that really diverted from them focusing on their core mission >> experts are blaming the ban
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failure on economics, not so called, wokeness this is part of a pattern from republicans, last week a georgia congressman claimed th ohio train drill meant o diversity programs what is going on here? >> you just heard from a man who should never be presiden of the united states o america. i hope that americans will mak sure that run desantis never stepped foot in the white hous as president of the united states he's the worst of leaders, h is used the state of florida a a stepping stone of incredulous, wrongheaded policies that hurt the people that are diverse in that state it's ridiculous, amand couldn't balance a budget. everybody knows that there are
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a number of reasons this small bank, or what was a small bank had only a certain limit and they suffered from the rollback of those regulation that would've given more protection under the trump administration those items were rolled back we also know that a simple fix could be one of the large banks, although we love to se diversity in banking, actually taking that bank we also know that the reducing of interest rates, and maybe chairman of the fed will loo more carefully at how damaging interest rates raises are to the economy. to those consumers maybe we will see that, bu it's got nothing to do with th diversity, equity, and inclusiveness. frankly, this nation is better corporate america is telling m in the united states congress, please don't get rid of dei. i come from a state where th governor announced that he wants to get rid of it, with
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three of the major universitie with minorities in those universities attending, they'v indicated that they will sto looking at diversity equit inclusion in hiring. the state legislature democrats, black legislators, they're going to give them legislation it's a disease, it's dangerous it's devilish, and it steps on the very principles of the 14t amendment, the legal protectio of the law in the independents that speak about equality in this nation. it's an outrage. >> congresswoman, according to a new report this week from th anti-defamation league, texas, your home state, led the natio in white supremacist propagand incidents in 2022 with the lon star state seeing a 61% jump i
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hate speech from 2021. a 38% jump nationally. in january, you introduced a bill to combat white supremacist violence broadening the definition of federal hate crimes to include white supremacist messaging, which can be directly linked t acts of violence like th racially motivated mas shootings in buffalo, and in e paso over the last four years, as well as the conspiracy to commit such acts naturally, you faced pushback, and mischaracterization from conservative politicians and critics who continue t effectively punish white people, infringing on their firs amendment rights why are they wrong about tha bill, the laws act congresswoman? >> they are wrong, thank, yo and they are wrong headed, and wrong intending. i think that's been the ke
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element. it's not misinformation, i disinformation, check to the airwaves before this eve started. trying to make sure that there was a pushing against each other, of people of color, african americans, and of whit americans. we are all americans, and we all believe that good american of all backgrounds, the qualit of all people, in the right to freedom of speech, and the right to live a nonviolent life, if you will. there's no doubt that la enforcement at the highest level, in three or fou hearings, even before meetin in the judiciary committee saying that white supremacy wa the largest portion of domesti terrorism, and domesti terrorists where the largest threat to the american people. my legislation simply amends the hate crime bill, to sa that if white supremacy bias results in any crime, that
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means you have to prove that i was the basis of a crime o violence which resulted in assault or death then you would have your sentencing enhanced. it's a perfectly legitimat criminal law it's a reflection of the importance of stopping hat crimes in america. to the horrors of buffalo an those families still morning you can't go to a grocery stor or walmart it is simply saying that americans will stand up agains hate reverend, you know, because yo are such a champion, those early victims of hate crimes so much so that when our state of texas, this individual ha to acknowledge being dragged through the streets by a pic up truck
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it can result in a heeney' death, and that's why introduced legislation, becaus of the significant amount of white supremacy driven violent acts which caused the death of minorities in this country >> james byrd was over a decad ago, and it's gotten worse a the statistics show. congresswoman sheila jackson thank you so much for bein with us. joining me now is my political panel. rick wilson, - and renee graham, the op-e columnist and associate editor for the boston globe rick, let's start with forme vice president mike pence, who as we mentioned, delivered his harshest rebuke of his forme boss actions of january 6th, during some of camera action a the annual gridiron dinner a
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attended by journalists an politicians in washington, d.c. he deserves the president trum is wrong, and history will hol him accountable. i want to know if thes comments were not made in fron of the american public, or before the special counsel which has subpoenaed him t testify about the events leading up to january 6th. what is the purpose of him saying this now? is it a little too late fo this >> reverend, i have to tel you. if mike pence is going to make a difference with thes comments, he would've done the in front of the january 6t committee, or the specia counsel. he would not be fighting the special counsel to the nail to avoid giving testimony, but is willing to give at the gridiro dinner, that he's going to try to start to set a boundary for a doomed presidential campaign he would be speaking in a wa where the official weight of these words would have a impact on donald trump, bu
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mike pence, have like ever other republican, wants to hav it both ways they want to nod and wink at normal americans, i know how bad it was, i know how bad h is but that's not only going to get the trump base, but i' glad he said it. it's not sufficient. he refuses to say so on th record, in front of th appropriate investigativ bodies >> pence is facing criticism o the other remarks that he made that very same dinner, about transportation secretary pet buttigieg's family he joked about what he calle the transportation secretary's maternity leave, claiming that he ignored the nations trave problems to attend to hi adopted newborn twins. the truth is, the secretar took less than three months of in 2021, and he came back as the shipping and supply chai
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crisis was starting. months before the flight cancellations that holiday season also, both of the babies wer born prematurely, developed respiratory illness and one wa hospitalized for a prolonged period, which included a wee on a ventilator, according t politico and pence has a record o opposing paid leave while in congress, it paid or unpaid. what do you make of thes comments from somebody who claims to champion famil values >> that's exactly it he's talking out of both sides of his mouth, as usual somehow, this constant vilification of secretar buttigieg, trying to spend tim with his newborn children, and tried to do it every paren should be able to do without repercussions. it's rebate --
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on the same way, talking about how donald trump needs to be held accountable, but he himself does not want to b held accountable for what he knows about what happened on january 6th. the hypocrisy of mike pence ha always been quit extraordinary. i'm not sure he even sees it that's just who he is. so representative of what th republican party is. >> renee, what is your take on trump? criminal charges derail hi campaign or would it rally his base >> i'm not sure will derail hi campaign, i'm not sure if it will derail his campaign i do think that it would rally his base, but of course, i also doesn't take much they're going to stand b donald trump no matter what. they're going to sit there - and he's being persecuted, the left wing mob, all of this
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typical things that they say it's going to be a ver harrowing nuance with donald trump running for office, an the very distinct possibility, fingers crossed, that he's going to be indicted for something by somebody at som point. the fact is that his base is going to ramp up his base, but the fact that he's going to do that should certainly not dete any prosecutor from doing what they need to do. >> we've lost a video of ric wilson, but we think you, rene graham just ahead, rising up to celebrate women's history month. we are continuing to fight t protect their rights and later, benjamin crump join us to discuss the latest findings from the doj, and - with today's top stories rick, jessica. >> the stories we're watchin
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this hour in san diego, rescue crews are searching right no for any remaining sobers ove to migrants smuggling boat from mexico colliding. trying to reach shore last night. killing at least eight people. creating a large debris field, the surge hampered by fog. the rainfall continues to soak parts of southern and centra california, as the state contends with massiv evacuations. even landslides. in a small city in santa cruz, consuming after a levee breach with nearly 2000 residents i the community under mandator evacuation orders. and in ukraine, the study of were set today with no confirmed advances of russia forces in eastern ukrainia city of bakhmut. that signals a stall in th kremlin's efforts to capture that territory this comes a day after ukraine and russia claims that hundred of mna troops were killed over the previous 24 hours.
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achievements were too ofte unsung, and unnoticed. seven years later, congres passed the bill to celebrate women's history for the entire month of march, which wa signed into law by ronal reagan decades later, we've mad significant progress on women' rights as a country, but i would be remiss not to mention the challenge that we still pa face today right now, a woman's right t control her own body is unde assault. the supreme court has under -- after nearly 50 years. 20 forced states across th country are planning, or hav placed severe restrictions o abortion access. even private companies are under pressure walgreens recently announced that it will no longer suppl abortion pills in 21 states.
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impacting millions of wome across the country, and even a we see record numbers of women especially women of color in politics, we can also observ the double standards that they must endure in public service. black women in particular stil face uphill climbs to be elected to our most powerful positions, such as senator governor, or president in the business world, the pay gap between men and women ha not changed much in tw decades. in 2022, women earned an average of 82% of what men earned, according to a new pee study analysis march is not only a time t celebrate the women in our lives, and the heroes that fought to make america what it is today, we must also rise up to address the issues that
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advil, dual action bites, pain, two ways. advil targets pain at the source. acetaminophen blocks, pain signals, advil, dual action. >> looking back to politicsnation we are joined now by the attorney general for black america. silver rights attorney ben crump. attorney crump, thank you very much as always for being wit us tonight we've got movement at th federal level with two cases the year involved in two grieving families th you've been representing after the fatal police encounters in louisville, and in memphis starting in kentucky, attorney general merrick garlan announced last week that the justice department has found reasonable cause to believ that the louisville metr police department and city government has engaged in
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pattern of conduct which violated citizens specifically black citizens, constitutional and civil rights the doj investigation followed the 2020 police shooting o 26-year-old breonna taylor whose family you represent now that the justice departmen has corroborated a pattern o anti black discrimination amon louisville police, abandoned b the city itself, what needs to happen in your judgment? >> reverend al, thank you fo covering these important matters. let's not forget the breonna taylor, the innocent black woman mattered i think it was so critical what attorney general merric garland did right before the three year mark since th tragic killing of breonn taylor, which is next week they issued a scathing repor
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that was exhaustive, reveren al, and it shows all of th violations of the firs amendment, fourth amendment, violations of the civil rights act of 1964, and it targeted people of color, and particularly black people, which was foreseeable. some innocent person, innocent black person like breonn taylor, was going to be killed the fact that you have so many of these unjustified violation of the fourth amendment, legally kicking in the front doors of black citizens, the were not knocking in announcing, they were coming in like the did with breonna taylor. it was not just breonna, it wa many others. reverend, this was critica
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when this was happened i memphis tennessee. but -- i want to underscored th report, which was extensive, said that this happened in man cases, and was geared toward the black community in louisville let's pivot to memphis now where the judge blocked th release of 20 additional - related to the fatal polic beating of tyre nichols in january. the footage was set to release wednesday, but the attorne general for one of the fiv police officers, charged wit murdering nichols, in th judges decision came just hour after the doj said that it would conduct a review of th memphis police department. we have been part of this stor since it broke you are representing the nichols family, delivering the
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eulogy at nichols's funeral on february, as president of th national action network. what can you tell us about the families action to the judge's decision to block th additional footage, and to the impending doj review of th memphis pd -- the parents of tyre nichols, i was an emotional rollercoaster that so many aspects of th tragic killings of tyre nichols, in fact they were elated tha the department of justice, heading up the civil right division, they were going to open a full investigation into the memphis police department, very similar to what we just witnessed them do with breonna taylor and louisville, kentucky but then to be ver disappointed, reverend al, the
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judge said that they canno release the 20 hours of vide because all that they have asked for from the ver beginning, is transparency -- we have to fight every day for equal justice for all citizens because you can't tell me that if these hadn't been polic officers did they would not release thi to the public, but when police they're treated differentl when they kill unarmed black people >> no doubt about it and you mention from the doj marching across last weekend we talk about this general problem in terms of police accountability, and what mus be done.
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while there still time attorney general, i want to go back to the stats that w shared at the top of the show. anti-definition lead funding that white supremacist propagation -- spiked last year, 750 whit supremacist propaganda - a spike in 21, and an all-time high what will it take in your view to take back what la enforcement agencies hav identified as the centra domestic terror threat that we faced. racist extremist violence. >> that's where we all come in on april 12th, to the national action network convention, being able to focus ou attention on this issue, and t be able to respond to elect th
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leaders who i believe ar pouring gas on the flames, lik in florida, and in texas where they are talking about not being able to teach africa americans studies in the classrooms, and saying tha they have little to no value if we're not getting to th young people to make sure that they understand that this whit supremacists notions and theories are just wrong and on the wrong side of history. they are than allowed to fester they radicalize these youn people, going into supermarket and killing ten innocent people, and then we have to keep the work with trying to heal communities, where they're not doing anything to try and stop this racist rhetoric it is the cancer of american today >> from arkansas to louisville
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to memphis tennessee, that's why we call you the attorney general of black america, th peoples attorney general benjamin crump, thank you very much for being with us just ahead, the mayor of jackson, mississippi joins u to talk about a republican-led plan to take control of th cities criminal justice system he is calling it a new form of apartheid. details, next. ahhhh... with flonase, allergies don't have to be scary. spray flonase sensimist daily for non-drowsy, long lasting relief in a scent-free, gentle mist. (psst psst) flonase. all good. a man, his tractor and his family. these are the upshaws.
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politicsnation last week, the republican-le mississippi senate voted passe a bill, calling on the state t intervene in the affairs of on of the country's cities. the proposal would give capita -- the authority to patrol th entire city, not just the state. the house version of the bil would essentially take int control of the city's cour system joining us now is the mayor of jackson, mississippi, chokwe antar lumumba, think you for joining us today mister mayor, you represent on of the blackest cities i america. over 83% black you've previously called the state proposals of forme apartheid, and others saying
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that they represent a return t jim crow can you elaborate on that point? >> thank you for having me thank you for lifting up thi issue. the little translation of th word apartheid is apart hood or separateness. the first version of the dea which was initially submitte by the house of representatives, it looked at creating district in the most densely populated portions of the city while jackson is 83% black, th district, which they gerrymandered,, contains about 86% of jackson's white population that bill also puts into place a court system where judge will not be elected by the people, but appointed by the white-controlled u.s. -- the mississippi supreme cour prosecutors. they would be hired by the attorney general, and so i
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strips the residents of th ability to pick thei leadership the vimentins is the fact that we do not currently have a voting rights act in place had that been in place, an this is a measure that would seek federal review before the could even attempt to do something like this. furthermore, this police department, the capital comple police, or the cc ivey police, which had limited jurisdiction around an area that encompasse state facilities, and woul have seven incidents within six month period of time, of officer involved shootings shooting one young man, jale lewis, through the window of his car, and we have yet t hear the merits of tha investigation. secondly, we have a resident that was asleep in her own hom while they were doing a chase,
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and shooting at another vehicle, dukes of hazard style, and a bullet entered her wall an struck her in the arm. these are just a few example of the type of polic misconduct, overaggressive tactics that we are seeing we're natalie seeing what ca result from the police overreach, and the expansion o the jurisdiction, but we are also concerned with the cour system, which is not accountable directly to th residents of jackson it's more than just an attac on the, merits an attack o black leadership >> and on the population, 83 of the city is black it takes away their vote as you raise, with the votin rights act, going down by th supreme court, and the failure of the senate to pass the john lewis voting rights act, or th justice in voting rights act
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there is no federal review o what the state of mississipp would have to be hel accountable to which it woul have before the watering dow by the supreme court in th voting rights act. let me go to this. mississippi republicans ar defending these bills by assisting the need to figh crime. jackson's homicide rate rank the highest in the nation. among major cities although it did drop more than 10% last year compared t previous years the overall crime rate als declined by nearly 30% in th last year. mister mayor, i know you are extremely focused on the safet of your fellow citizens, but why is the states plan the wrong answer to jackson' problem? >> first and foremost, the representative from mitt minister, be they're not mor concerned with public safety o
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jackson residents and we are here in jackson. secondly, the notion of it being based on public safety i a trojan horse it is a trojan horse because four years, of all of th requests of things that we hav requested in order to suppor our public safety measures it's been met by willful neglect. we have asked for ballisti technology which would allow our officers to connect shel casings to previous crimes we've asked for support of the realtime crime center, which i a 21st century crime tool that helps our officers when crimes are actively in progress we've asked for support of our criminal messager and violence interruption program, which we have gone through extraordinar measures with wells fargo bank in the national league o cities in order to get money t get officer violent prevention and trauma recovery. all of these things we've ha to do on our own, all while th state of mississippi has one o the highest deliberation o
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weapons that are easil disseminated across the state. they often enter into othe states while the pandemic started, fought state leadership becaus i had an understanding the social economic conditions leading to a rising crim everywhere i fight to spin put a say on open carry, only to be aggressively pursued not b residents of jackson, not by people that live in thes conditions, but by leadershi of the state of mississippi wh often live nowhere nea jackson. we are concerned if they were truly concerned about the issue of safety, the they would support us in our needs. not creating a pointed judge that would see similar matters that oversee chancellery matters, which has nothing t do with crime whatsoever, an creating a district in one o the areas which has one of the lowest crime rates in the city >> i am out of time.
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i would love to have you back, i want an update on that there but i see you in the trenche working, in these people are very - there really making you do wha is necessary i've known you since you are very young, and i see yo getting here beard gray, that' how hard you're wearing. mayor chokwe antar lumumba o jackson, mississippi thank you for being here tonight. up next, it's time for the oscars my thoughts in a moment. after advil. let's dive in. but, what about your back? it's fine. before advil. advil, dual action bites, pain, two ways. advil targets pain at the source. acetaminophen blocks, pain signals, advil, dual action. [♪♪] acetaminophen blocks, pain signals, if you have diabetes, it's important to have confidence in the nutritional drink you choose. try boost glucose control®. it's clinically shown to help manage blood sugar levels and contains high quality protein to help manage hunger and support muscle health.
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friend spike lee's 1992 biopic of the slain civil right leader all of that was just practic for the star making turn a tina turner in the film, wha does love have to do with it that role, resulting in he first oscar nomination, whic she lost but the career has been th stuff of black hollywood legend, and so it was only fitting tha she was cast as the queen in the marvel studios blockbuster black panther. it's even more fitting but the sequel to black panther, wakanda forever would be the one that has gone to the secon oscar nomination for bes supporting actor's she is widely expected to wi it in just hours for her return, sea place both
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a grieving mother and th dignified ruler of the african nation coming to grips with th loss of his can play by th late chadwick boseman. i had the fortune to know both actors, and i can tell you that was a role that siste angela was born to play. what i appreciate most is that for all of her awards, she's got the knowledge that hollywood has very long -- towards diversity, and in front, and behind noting that most of the majo categories of tonight's osca shows are dominated by white performers and filmmakers. just a reminder, getting where you want does not have to mean for getting who you are. angela, as you get red carpe ready, i want you to know that no matter what happens tonight
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